Is hunting animals sports or crime ?

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#1 Edited by indzman (18058 posts) -

On FIFA WC 2014 a belgian fan by name of Axelle Despiegelaere lost Loreal modelling contract for a hunting pic on her facebook profile.

Isn't hunting animals considered sports ? Kill for food ? Or is it crime nowadays ? Can one be arrested on hunting animals like deer or birds ?

#2 Posted by thegerg (15436 posts) -

It depends.

#3 Edited by bforrester420 (1654 posts) -

Neither sport nor crime if you ask me.

Hunting for pleasure, in my opinion, is disgusting. There's something wrong with a modern human that takes pleasure in killing something for reasons other than self-defense...I can even understand but not condone revenge. Hunting for sustenance is okay.

You can be arrested, in some countries, for killing an animal on the endangered species list.

#4 Posted by indzman (18058 posts) -

@thegerg said:

It depends.

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#5 Edited by thegerg (15436 posts) -

@indzman said:

@thegerg said:

It depends.

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Hunting can be sport, it can be a crime, it can be both, or it can be neither. It depends on the situation.

#6 Edited by SaintLeonidas (26321 posts) -

It is never a crime unless the local laws say it is. Now, if you are asking if it is right or wrong morally, then well it depends. Are they hunting for fun? Just to say they killed ___ animal and can stuff the head for their wall? In that case I think it is wrong. However, I have no problem if they are hunting because they NEED food; or if the population of the animal they are hunting has grown too large and needs to be thinned out.

#7 Edited by thehig1 (2228 posts) -

@bforrester420 said:

Neither sport nor crime if you ask me.

Hunting for pleasure, in my opinion, is disgusting. There's something wrong with a modern human that takes pleasure in killing something for reasons other than self-defense...I can even understand but not condone revenge. Hunting for sustenance is okay.

You can be arrested, in some countries, for killing an animal on the endangered species list.

Agree with this.

I despise hunting for sport or pleasure, there is no need for it and it should be illegal everywhere.

#8 Posted by thegerg (15436 posts) -

@bforrester420 said:

Neither sport nor crime if you ask me.

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You can be arrested, in some countries, for killing an animal on the endangered species list.

How can one be arrested for doing something that is not a crime?

#9 Posted by Korvus (3888 posts) -

@bforrester420 said:

Neither sport nor crime if you ask me.

Hunting for pleasure, in my opinion, is disgusting. There's something wrong with a modern human that takes pleasure in killing something for reasons other than self-defense...I can even understand but not condone revenge. Hunting for sustenance is okay.

You can be arrested, in some countries, for killing an animal on the endangered species list.

That sums it up.

#10 Edited by Korvus (3888 posts) -

@thegerg said:

How can one be arrested for doing something that is not a crime?

He did say "if you ask me", meaning it's his opinion, which doesn't mean that there aren't laws that say differently.

#11 Edited by thegerg (15436 posts) -

@korvus said:

@thegerg said:

How can one be arrested for doing something that is not a crime?

He did say "if you ask me", meaning it's his opinion, which doesn't mean that there aren't laws that say differently.

Hunting certainly is, in may cases, a crime. He can say that the sky, if you ask him, is green. That doesn't mean that he's right. It's kind of silly to give an answer that you know to be wrong if you're asked.

#12 Edited by bforrester420 (1654 posts) -

@thegerg said:

@bforrester420 said:

Neither sport nor crime if you ask me.

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You can be arrested, in some countries, for killing an animal on the endangered species list.

How can one be arrested for doing something that is not a crime?

Because killing an animal on the endangered species list is a crime. At least in the country we reside. Hunting, in general, is not a crime. I could have added that hunting an animal out of season is also a crime, but that's getting too specific to a general question.

#13 Edited by indzman (18058 posts) -

@thegerg said:

@korvus said:

@thegerg said:

How can one be arrested for doing something that is not a crime?

He did say "if you ask me", meaning it's his opinion, which doesn't mean that there aren't laws that say differently.

Hunting certainly is, in may cases, a crime. He can say that the sky, if you ask him, is green. That doesn't mean that he's right. It's kind of silly to give an answer that you know to be wrong if you're asked.

#14 Edited by SaintLeonidas (26321 posts) -

@thegerg said:

@korvus said:

@thegerg said:

How can one be arrested for doing something that is not a crime?

He did say "if you ask me", meaning it's his opinion, which doesn't mean that there aren't laws that say differently.

Hunting certainly is, in may cases, a crime. He can say that the sky, if you ask him, is green. That doesn't mean that he's right. It's kind of silly to give an answer that you know to be wrong if you're asked.

#15 Posted by lostrib (37593 posts) -

@indzman said:

@thegerg said:

It depends.

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Depends on the animal, time of year, place they're hunting

#16 Edited by Korvus (3888 posts) -

@thegerg said:

@korvus said:

@thegerg said:

How can one be arrested for doing something that is not a crime?

He did say "if you ask me", meaning it's his opinion, which doesn't mean that there aren't laws that say differently.

Hunting certainly is, in may cases, a crime. He can say that the sky, if you ask him, is green. That doesn't mean that he's right. It's kind of silly to give an answer that you know to be wrong if you're asked.

This is one of the few times I disagree with you. Yes, I believe hunting endangered species is stupid and uncalled for, since it serves no real purpose but that doesn't mean everyone cares about endangered animals and therefore considers it a crime. It's a matter of opinion and morals, not a fact. It is fact that it is considered crime, but whether it should or not is an opinion. Plus, the color of the sky is nor here nor there as a comparison.

#17 Posted by thegerg (15436 posts) -

@korvus said:

@thegerg said:

@korvus said:

@thegerg said:

How can one be arrested for doing something that is not a crime?

He did say "if you ask me", meaning it's his opinion, which doesn't mean that there aren't laws that say differently.

Hunting certainly is, in may cases, a crime. He can say that the sky, if you ask him, is green. That doesn't mean that he's right. It's kind of silly to give an answer that you know to be wrong if you're asked.

This is one of the few times I disagree with you. Yes, I believe hunting endangered species is stupid and uncalled for, since it serves no real purpose but that doesn't mean everyone cares about endangered animals and therefore considers it a crime. It's a matter of opinion and morals, not a fact. It is fact that it is considered crime, but whether it should or not is an opinion. Plus, the color of the sky is nor here nor there as a comparison.

It's comparable because it's a matter of fact, not ones opinion.

#18 Posted by thegerg (15436 posts) -

@bforrester420 said:

@thegerg said:

@bforrester420 said:

Neither sport nor crime if you ask me.

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You can be arrested, in some countries, for killing an animal on the endangered species list.

How can one be arrested for doing something that is not a crime?

Because killing an animal on the endangered species list is a crime. At least in the country we reside. Hunting, in general, is not a crime. I could have added that hunting an animal out of season is also a crime, but that's getting too specific to a general question.

"Because killing an animal on the endangered species list is a crime."

It certainly can be, and I'm simply pointing out that that conflicts with your statement that hunting is "[n]either sport nor crime if you ask me." You made a broad statement that just doesn't hold true in many cases. That's all I'm saying.

#19 Posted by SolidSnake35 (58110 posts) -

If hunting is so fun, they should offer themselves to be the hunted now and then. That'd even things out in my book.

#20 Posted by Korvus (3888 posts) -

@thegerg: Ok, let me make this simple for you. With "Neither sport nor crime if you ask me." he meant "Some people consider it sports, I don't. Some places consider it crime, I wouldn't." Seriously Greg, I have no idea why you keep trying to look less intelligent than I know you are. It doesn't look good on you...you normally have good arguments, but when you get stuck into "100% literal reading, no room for interpretation" you go from being one of the best people to argument in these forums to one of the most obnoxious.

#21 Edited by Jeager_Titan (947 posts) -

I think endangered species should be a crime.

#22 Edited by Mercuria1_King (276 posts) -

Hunting is a sport but can be turned criminal if the laws of hunting aren't followed.

#23 Posted by thegerg (15436 posts) -

@korvus said:

@thegerg: Ok, let me make this simple for you. With "Neither sport nor crime if you ask me." he meant "Some people consider it sports, I don't. Some places consider it crime, I wouldn't." Seriously Greg, I have no idea why you keep trying to look less intelligent than I know you are. It doesn't look good on you...you normally have good arguments, but when you get stuck into "100% literal reading, no room for interpretation" you go from being one of the best people to argument in these forums to one of the most obnoxious.

The issue is that the act of hunting involves so many variables that a simple "yes" or "no" type answer to OP's question, or a simple "yes" or "no" opinion on the matter, really isn't sufficient as it can't address the totality of the question. The fact that he recognizes that hunting is, in may cases, a crime shows us that. I'm just saying that he is contradicting himself in his answer.

#24 Posted by Korvus (3888 posts) -

@SolidSnake35 said:

If hunting is so fun, they should offer themselves to be the hunted now and then. That'd even things out in my book.

I'd watch it =P

#25 Edited by jasean79 (2375 posts) -

@korvus: you normally have good arguments, but when you get stuck into "100% literal reading, no room for interpretation" you go from being one of the best people to argument in these forums to one of the most obnoxious.

I think you give the man too much credit. His arguments are always 100% literal interpretation. I've never seen the guy argue any other way.

#26 Posted by indzman (18058 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@indzman said:

@thegerg said:

It depends.

???

Depends on the animal, time of year, place they're hunting

Killing a Lion or Tiger is a crime ya ? They endangered species but they kill and hunt humans when neccessary, what laws say on that ?

#27 Posted by Korvus (3888 posts) -

@thegerg said:

@korvus said:

@thegerg: Ok, let me make this simple for you. With "Neither sport nor crime if you ask me." he meant "Some people consider it sports, I don't. Some places consider it crime, I wouldn't." Seriously Greg, I have no idea why you keep trying to look less intelligent than I know you are. It doesn't look good on you...you normally have good arguments, but when you get stuck into "100% literal reading, no room for interpretation" you go from being one of the best people to argument in these forums to one of the most obnoxious.

The issue is that the act of hunting involves so many variables that a simple "yes" or "no" type answer to OP's question, or a simple "yes" or "no" opinion on the matter, really isn't sufficient as it can't address the totality of the question. The fact that he recognizes that hunting is, in may cases, a crime shows us that. I'm just saying that he is contradicting himself in his answer.

Ok, now I understand what you're trying to say, although I think we read his answer differently. I took it as meaning "it is a crime, but I don't agree it should be", which it would be his opinion; a lot of people don't agree with certain laws =)

#28 Posted by thegerg (15436 posts) -

@indzman said:

@lostrib said:

@indzman said:

@thegerg said:

It depends.

???

Depends on the animal, time of year, place they're hunting

Killing a Lion or Tiger is a crime ya ? They endangered species but they kill and hunt humans when neccessary, what laws say on that ?

"Killing a Lion or Tiger is a crime ya ?"

It depends.

#29 Posted by whipassmt (14034 posts) -

Generally, hunting endangered species shouldn't be allowed unless it is necessary for a person's survival (or of course if they have to defend themselves). Hunting for food is something that people have done for millennia, nothing wrong with that, though nowadays most of us, at least those in developed countries, do not need to hunt. Also a big purpose of modern hunting in the U.S. is too keep the population of certain animals under control, for instance deer (which kill more people than any other animal in the U.S. because they run out in front of cars).

#30 Posted by jasean79 (2375 posts) -

@indzman said:

@lostrib said:

@indzman said:

@thegerg said:

It depends.

???

Depends on the animal, time of year, place they're hunting

Killing a Lion or Tiger is a crime ya ? They endangered species but they kill and hunt humans when neccessary, what laws say on that ?

Wow, really?

Those animals act on instinct and surely don't do it for "fun". And when was the last time you saw a tiger in full camouflage hanging out in a tree with a scoped rifle waiting for humans to show themselves so it can take the killshot?

#31 Edited by indzman (18058 posts) -

@thegerg said:

@indzman said:

@lostrib said:

@indzman said:

@thegerg said:

It depends.

???

Depends on the animal, time of year, place they're hunting

Killing a Lion or Tiger is a crime ya ? They endangered species but they kill and hunt humans when neccessary, what laws say on that ?

"Killing a Lion or Tiger is a crime ya ?"

It depends.

I really get confused with your vauge answers , no offense. Please explain in detail when you explain something . What depends ???

#32 Posted by thegerg (15436 posts) -

@korvus said:

@thegerg said:

@korvus said:

@thegerg: Ok, let me make this simple for you. With "Neither sport nor crime if you ask me." he meant "Some people consider it sports, I don't. Some places consider it crime, I wouldn't." Seriously Greg, I have no idea why you keep trying to look less intelligent than I know you are. It doesn't look good on you...you normally have good arguments, but when you get stuck into "100% literal reading, no room for interpretation" you go from being one of the best people to argument in these forums to one of the most obnoxious.

The issue is that the act of hunting involves so many variables that a simple "yes" or "no" type answer to OP's question, or a simple "yes" or "no" opinion on the matter, really isn't sufficient as it can't address the totality of the question. The fact that he recognizes that hunting is, in may cases, a crime shows us that. I'm just saying that he is contradicting himself in his answer.

Ok, now I understand what you're trying to say, although I think we read his answer differently. I took it as meaning "it is a crime, but I don't agree it should be", which it would be his opinion; a lot of people don't agree with certain laws =)

"I took it as meaning "it is a crime, but I don't agree it should be""

I see. If that's the case then I think he should look closer at the reasons behind the laws in place to outlaw certain hunting practices. Sometimes hunting can be detrimental to the sustenance of healthy animal populations, and it only makes sense to have measures in place to prevent hunting.

#33 Posted by thegerg (15436 posts) -

@indzman said:

@thegerg said:

@indzman said:

@lostrib said:

@indzman said:

@thegerg said:

It depends.

???

Depends on the animal, time of year, place they're hunting

Killing a Lion or Tiger is a crime ya ? They endangered species but they kill and hunt humans when neccessary, what laws say on that ?

"Killing a Lion or Tiger is a crime ya ?"

It depends.

I really get confused with your vauge answers , no offense. Please explain in detail when you explain something . What depends ???

My answer is not vague at all. You asked a question, and I gave you the only correct answer. Sometimes it is a crime to kill one of those animals, and other times it's not. It depends on the situation.

#34 Edited by indzman (18058 posts) -

@jasean79 said:

@indzman said:

@lostrib said:

@indzman said:

@thegerg said:

It depends.

???

Depends on the animal, time of year, place they're hunting

Killing a Lion or Tiger is a crime ya ? They endangered species but they kill and hunt humans when neccessary, what laws say on that ?

Wow, really?

Those animals act on instinct and surely don't do it for "fun". And when was the last time you saw a tiger in full camouflage hanging out in a tree with a scoped rifle waiting for humans to show themselves so it can take the killshot?

If a lion or tiger becomes injured , they become manhunters (target humans). If you kill a manhunter , would you be punished ?

#35 Posted by Star0 (443 posts) -

HUNT FOOD = GOOD

HUNT SPORT = BAD

THREAD STOOPID

#36 Posted by jasean79 (2375 posts) -

@indzman said:

@jasean79 said:

@indzman said:

@lostrib said:

@indzman said:

@thegerg said:

It depends.

???

Depends on the animal, time of year, place they're hunting

Killing a Lion or Tiger is a crime ya ? They endangered species but they kill and hunt humans when neccessary, what laws say on that ?

Wow, really?

Those animals act on instinct and surely don't do it for "fun". And when was the last time you saw a tiger in full camouflage hanging out in a tree with a scoped rifle waiting for humans to show themselves so it can take the killshot?

If a lion or tiger becomes injured , they become manhunters (target humans). If you kill a manhunter , would you be punished ?

That's different. If the animal is provoked it will attack (in most cases). If it's an endangered species, and someone is responsible for provoking it, then yes it is still a crime on the human, not the animal. In rare cases when the animal just goes nuts and attacks at random, then no, the person is not at fault for killing it.

Like in the US...if a bear attacks someone, rangers will put it down regardless.

#37 Posted by indzman (18058 posts) -

@jasean79 said:

@indzman said:

@jasean79 said:

@indzman said:

@lostrib said:

@indzman said:

@thegerg said:

It depends.

???

Depends on the animal, time of year, place they're hunting

Killing a Lion or Tiger is a crime ya ? They endangered species but they kill and hunt humans when neccessary, what laws say on that ?

Wow, really?

Those animals act on instinct and surely don't do it for "fun". And when was the last time you saw a tiger in full camouflage hanging out in a tree with a scoped rifle waiting for humans to show themselves so it can take the killshot?

If a lion or tiger becomes injured , they become manhunters (target humans). If you kill a manhunter , would you be punished ?

That's different. If the animal is provoked it will attack (in most cases). If it's an endangered species, and someone is responsible for provoking it, then yes it is still a crime on the human, not the animal. In rare cases when the animal just goes nuts and attacks at random, then no, the person is not at fault for killing it.

Like in the US...if a bear attacks someone, rangers will put it down regardless.

Yep, thats what i was asking . Even if a endangered species attacks humans and humans kill it , its no crime then.

#38 Edited by Korvus (3888 posts) -

@thegerg said:

I see. If that's the case then I think he should look closer at the reasons behind the laws in place to outlaw certain hunting practices. Sometimes hunting can be detrimental to the sustenance of healthy animal populations, and it only makes sense to have measures in place to prevent hunting.

Agreed =)

#39 Posted by foxhound_fox (88688 posts) -

It's a crime if what is being hunted is hunted out of season and without the proper paperwork/licenses.

The crime is poaching.

Hunting is both a sport and a source of food for many people. It's also one of the oldest modes of living.

@indzman said:

Killing a Lion or Tiger is a crime ya ? They endangered species but they kill and hunt humans when neccessary, what laws say on that ?

Only if you don't get a license to hunt one.

And they do give them out.

#40 Posted by thegerg (15436 posts) -

@SaintLeonidas said:

@thegerg said:

@korvus said:

@thegerg said:

How can one be arrested for doing something that is not a crime?

He did say "if you ask me", meaning it's his opinion, which doesn't mean that there aren't laws that say differently.

Hunting certainly is, in may cases, a crime. He can say that the sky, if you ask him, is green. That doesn't mean that he's right. It's kind of silly to give an answer that you know to be wrong if you're asked.

Are you confused?

#41 Posted by High-Res (273 posts) -

I don't like sharks!

#42 Posted by Xeno_ghost (683 posts) -

@indzman: "Isn't hunting animals considered sports ? Kill for food ? Or is it crime nowadays ? Can one be arrested on hunting animals like deer or birds"

I don't think hunting is a sport, but more of a hobby, I might be wrong.

I certainly don't agree with hunting a wild animal just for a trophy or a photo with your catch.

#43 Posted by GazaAli (22968 posts) -

If you're going to eat the animal and if its not an endangered species then call it whatever you want I don't care as it would be fine with me in all situations and circumstances. With that said, if you hunt animals just to pose next to their dead bodies then you're a fuckturd.

#44 Edited by Sword-Demon (6970 posts) -

As long as it's not endangered/protected and you eat it, then I don't have any problem with it.

#45 Posted by wis3boi (31461 posts) -

it's food

#46 Edited by jasean79 (2375 posts) -

@xeno_ghost said:

I don't think hunting is a sport, but more of a hobby, I might be wrong.

It's hard to call hunting a "sport" when the competition's only defense is to FLEE!

#47 Posted by Star0 (443 posts) -

@jasean79:

Yeah, that would be some messed up role-play :S

#48 Posted by uninspiredcup (8927 posts) -

@indzman said:

@thegerg said:

It depends.

???

Their are examples in which a non native species (on land or in water) has been introduced and it has fucked things up with the new species dominating the habitat. It makes logical sense to kill off as many as possible.

Likewise here in Scotland, we use to have Wolves. But, we killed them off a long time ago. These predators would ordinarily help keep populations in check, so creatures like deer have no cap.

You just get things like Hares as well that rapidily breed. Much of the time when I take my doggy a walk I see a man walking round with a beam flashlight and a dog. This is to startle the hare so the dog can rip the little fuckers throat out.

Which then consequently leads to a nice stew.

#49 Posted by MrGeezer (56524 posts) -

@Sword-Demon said:

As long as it's not endangered/protected and you eat it, then I don't have any problem with it.

I've always found it weird how people somehow treat hunting as okay as long as the animal is eaten. The way it's typically presented, the argument for eating the animal revolves around killing it out of necessity. But that's sort of an outdated concept. In a world in which so many people have an overabundance of food (to the point where we have an obesity epidemic), I don't think it any longer necessarily follows that killing an animal and eating it is necessary. What if you're obese and already eat too much meat? Furthermore, if you're rich enough to travel halfway around the world in order to go on safari, then chances are that you're well-fed and can afford to switch over to a vegetarian diet.You can kill an animal and then eat it afterwards, but isn't that still just as much of an unnecessary death as if someone had shot that same animal and then just collected the head as a trophy?

#50 Posted by skipper847 (3334 posts) -

For some strange reason I thought you was going to ask about GTAV hunting animals lol.