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#1 Posted by tenaka2 (17012 posts) -

Given that all creeds know right and wrong, do we need god anymore?

#2 Posted by thegerg (14392 posts) -

We don't know whether or not a god exists or what role it might play in what we need. There's simply no way for us to know.

#3 Posted by tocool340 (20415 posts) -

IMO, no....

#4 Posted by BossPerson (9380 posts) -

Who am I gonna curse at when something goes wrong in my life??

#5 Edited by Cynical_Buzzard (224 posts) -

God is not your enemy my friend, do not let society corrupt your mind.

#6 Posted by byof_america (1335 posts) -

Creeds created by uninspired men who voted on them. I'm looking at you nicene Creed!

#7 Posted by bob_toeback (11267 posts) -

if we were created by a god, then I'd say they are very much needed. In the sense of morality, everyone has a definition, and god isn't going to change that. If anything it quite often leads to rifts, because everyone thinks their right. With that being said, even without god people are still going to come up with their own moral codes. It's all up in the air.

#8 Posted by THE_DRUGGIE (24921 posts) -

Who am I gonna curse at when something goes wrong in my life??

Steve Buscemi.

#9 Posted by junglist101 (5453 posts) -

@thegerg said:

We don't know whether or not a god exists or what role it might play in what we need. There's simply no way for us to know.

We don't know whether or not unicorns and fairies exist or what role they play in what we need.

You see how that works?

#10 Posted by -Renegade (8340 posts) -


considering we create our own realities no. anyways we all are god.

#11 Posted by bob_toeback (11267 posts) -

@thegerg said:

We don't know whether or not a god exists or what role it might play in what we need. There's simply no way for us to know.

We don't know whether or not unicorns and fairies exist or what role they play in what we need.

You see how that works?

It's a tad different. First off, unicorns and fairies are actual physical things, where as god is something on a different plain (supposing it exists)
Also, that is absolutely true that unicorns and fairies may exist, and we have not yet found them.

#12 Posted by indzman (16408 posts) -

we don't need tenaka

#13 Edited by junglist101 (5453 posts) -

@junglist101 said:

@thegerg said:

We don't know whether or not a god exists or what role it might play in what we need. There's simply no way for us to know.

We don't know whether or not unicorns and fairies exist or what role they play in what we need.

You see how that works?

It's a tad different. First off, unicorns and fairies are actual physical things, where as god is something on a different plain (supposing it exists)

Also, that is absolutely true that unicorns and fairies may exist, and we have not yet found them.

You're all over the place with that post. It isn't a tad different, it's not different at all.

#14 Posted by bob_toeback (11267 posts) -

@bob_toeback said:

@junglist101 said:

@thegerg said:

We don't know whether or not a god exists or what role it might play in what we need. There's simply no way for us to know.

We don't know whether or not unicorns and fairies exist or what role they play in what we need.

You see how that works?

It's a tad different. First off, unicorns and fairies are actual physical things, where as god is something on a different plain (supposing it exists)

Also, that is absolutely true that unicorns and fairies may exist, and we have not yet found them.

You're all over the place with that post. It isn't a tad different, it's not different at all.

Let me try to explain.

Unicorns and Fairies. By what we know about these things, we can say that if they exist, they are physical beings. We have not seen them, therefor how do we know they exist? Their existence may lead to the discovery of bones for example.

God. By what we know about this, we can say that if it exists, it is something that is watching us from somewhere, which we cannot see. A heaven, or something. How do we know it exists? It's not like there is much physical existence we'd be able to point to (unless someone wants to say our existence is proof, which is kind of silly)

One of them is able to be proven on sight (If I see a unicorn, I'm goddam gonna believe it exists). And the other ones existence cannot really be proven (beyond personal experience, I'd say)

Now, just because we have not seen unicorns or fairies, does not mean they do not exist. If we are talking 'logic' then that view is flawed. The world used to be flat too.

Either way, to know god exists with 100% conviction, is maybe a stretch, as I personally don't see it that way. However, same with knowing with 100% conviction that god (or unicorns for that matter) do not exist. How can we be sure of anything.

People can and will believe what makes sense to them.

#15 Edited by BranKetra (47485 posts) -

@tenaka2 said:

Given that all creeds know right and wrong, do we need god anymore?

That is not really a given.

#16 Edited by worlock77 (22533 posts) -

@junglist101 said:

@bob_toeback said:

@junglist101 said:

@thegerg said:

We don't know whether or not a god exists or what role it might play in what we need. There's simply no way for us to know.

We don't know whether or not unicorns and fairies exist or what role they play in what we need.

You see how that works?

It's a tad different. First off, unicorns and fairies are actual physical things, where as god is something on a different plain (supposing it exists)

Also, that is absolutely true that unicorns and fairies may exist, and we have not yet found them.

You're all over the place with that post. It isn't a tad different, it's not different at all.

Let me try to explain.

Unicorns and Fairies. By what we know about these things, we can say that if they exist, they are physical beings. We have not seen them, therefor how do we know they exist? Their existence may lead to the discovery of bones for example.

God. By what we know about this, we can say that if it exists, it is something that is watching us from somewhere, which we cannot see. A heaven, or something. How do we know it exists? It's not like there is much physical existence we'd be able to point to (unless someone wants to say our existence is proof, which is kind of silly)

One of them is able to be proven on sight (If I see a unicorn, I'm goddam gonna believe it exists). And the other ones existence cannot really be proven (beyond personal experience, I'd say)

Now, just because we have not seen unicorns or fairies, does not mean they do not exist. If we are talking 'logic' then that view is flawed. The world used to be flat too.

Either way, to know god exists with 100% conviction, is maybe a stretch, as I personally don't see it that way. However, same with knowing with 100% conviction that god (or unicorns for that matter) do not exist. How can we be sure of anything.

People can and will believe what makes sense to them.

That's a lot of typing to ultimately say nothing.

#17 Edited by thegerg (14392 posts) -

@thegerg said:

We don't know whether or not a god exists or what role it might play in what we need. There's simply no way for us to know.

We don't know whether or not unicorns and fairies exist or what role they play in what we need.

You see how that works?

Yes I do. Do you?

#18 Edited by TheFlush (5412 posts) -

I'm doing fine without god, so no, not needed.
It's up to the person I suppose.

#19 Posted by GazaAli (22491 posts) -

What do you mean is God needed? If you believe in God then you regard him as an almighty and omnipotent being that created the universe for a set of time as a trial for all sapient and sentient beings who will be judged in this universe in an eternal afterlife. If you don't believe in God then you think all of this is non-existing bullshit to begin with.

I'm failing to see the rationale in such a question.

#21 Posted by mindstorm (15242 posts) -

As God does not simply create all that exists but sustains that creation to say that we are not in need of God presumes a desire to not even exist. Apart from God we would not even be capable of having this conversation. If you presume that a creator God exists then the creation is dependent upon that creator.

#22 Posted by Blueresident87 (5195 posts) -

Only if you choose to need him.

#23 Posted by MakeMeaSammitch (3682 posts) -

No, if fact, from my experience, the belief in god seems to make alot of people into a holes.

#24 Posted by Celldrax (14532 posts) -

Eh, certainly not needed in my life.

#26 Edited by THE_DRUGGIE (24921 posts) -

EHHHH, depends on what your needs are. If you need to believe in Chernobog to think your mushroom garden will flourish, then fine.

#27 Posted by chaplainDMK (6649 posts) -

Some old dude said that god is dead a hundred and thirty years or so ago