If you had a chance to join the 'Army' and fight...

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#51 Lilac_Benjie
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[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]


Don't roll your eyes at me. Being in the army involves killing people.
LJS9502_basic

Wrong, incorrect, false, untrue, misinformation.....I served 4 years and killed no one.:roll:


The army kills people. Your involvement contributed to the army.


Take that damned stars and stripes out of your backside once in a while damnit LJ.
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#52 xhellcatx
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Oh no, the warmongering Off-topic Republicans are back.

*runs away*
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firstly im not a warmongerer. Secondly I am not a Republican. I am an individual who has the right to choose whom I like best, and what I agree with. And lately...thats neither dem or repub. It is cowardly to run, either way.
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#53 FragStains
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]


Don't roll your eyes at me. Being in the army involves killing people.
Lilac_Benjie

Wrong, incorrect, false, untrue, misinformation.....I served 4 years and killed no one.:roll:


The army kills people. Your involvement contributed to the army.


Take that damned star spangled banner out of your backside once in a while damnit LJ.

Violence is human nature. We all contribute to the destruction of other things. Be it as small as a insect or as meaningful as a human life. We don't like in a Utopian society, we never will.

Edit:  Upon further thought, if you pay any sort of tax to the government where you live, you contribute to the military.  That doesn't make someone a murderer.
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#54 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]


Don't roll your eyes at me. Being in the army involves killing people.
Lilac_Benjie

Wrong, incorrect, false, untrue, misinformation.....I served 4 years and killed no one.:roll:


The army kills people. Your involvement contributed to the army.


Take that damned stars and stripes out of your backside once in a while damnit LJ.

Having a military allows for peace and less killing.  But that did make me laugh...:lol:

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#55 CansOfPLEASURE
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Yes, I would join if my country was under attack.
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#56 marolia
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[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]


Don't roll your eyes at me. Being in the army involves killing people.
LJS9502_basic

Wrong, incorrect, false, untrue, misinformation.....I served 4 years and killed no one.:roll:


That means.. you were only in basic training?
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#57 Lilac_Benjie
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[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]


Don't roll your eyes at me. Being in the army involves killing people.
FragStains

Wrong, incorrect, false, untrue, misinformation.....I served 4 years and killed no one.:roll:


The army kills people. Your involvement contributed to the army.


Take that damned star spangled banner out of your backside once in a while damnit LJ.

Violence is human nature. We all contribute to the destruction of other things. Be it as small as a insect or as meaningful as a human life. We don't like in a Utopian society, we never will.



True as this may be, I do not need to contribute to the destruction if I can avoid it.

I am a vegetarian man. I'm hardly going to go and fight in some war.
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#58 foxhound_fox
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I would serve my country, but only in a way that would lead to the benefit of all people through non-violent means.

I doubt I would serve in the military.
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#59 xhellcatx
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]


Don't roll your eyes at me. Being in the army involves killing people.
Lilac_Benjie

Wrong, incorrect, false, untrue, misinformation.....I served 4 years and killed no one.:roll:


The army kills people. Your involvement contributed to the army.


Take that damned stars and stripes out of your backside once in a while damnit LJ.

Seriously though, if you chose the MOSs that I mentioned you would in fact be helping SAVE LIVES. As a medic you are actually supposed to treat ALL CASUALTIES. This means even "enemies". (odd? yes. but its the truth)
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#60 UrbanSpartan125
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]I could never kill someone, even if they belonged to a country who's political leaders initiated an attack.
Lilac_Benjie
More misinformation....



Misinformation that I could never kill someone, or misinformation that political leaders initiate wars?


LJ. Why do you argue against everything I say? I don't want to be involved in an organization which very much does terminate the lives of people who are also only fighting for their country. I think that this is a fair statement.


I would rather be killed than kill someone else.

by fighting for your country you would be helping to protect American values, your family and Families across the US. We are in an age now where people dont want to fight us conventionally because they know they cant win, these people are not fighting for their country their fighting for their religion and their beliefs. And if they want to kill innocent men and women and our troops, well they are going to have through me and our military to suceed in their goal.  Your own life is more important than the enemies, it is instinct that takes over in war, some people go above the call of duty and help their Brothers in battle. War is not just about killing the enemy, War is about the people you serve with.
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#61 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]


Don't roll your eyes at me. Being in the army involves killing people.
marolia

Wrong, incorrect, false, untrue, misinformation.....I served 4 years and killed no one.:roll:


That means.. you were only in basic training?

No...it means the army is more than killing....jeez...basic is two months. I said four years...
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#62 UnknownSniper65
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Yep i sure would serve just like my grandpa and my dad
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#63 xhellcatx
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]


Don't roll your eyes at me. Being in the army involves killing people.
marolia

Wrong, incorrect, false, untrue, misinformation.....I served 4 years and killed no one.:roll:


That means.. you were only in basic training?

:P of course not. Just cause your in the army doesnt mean you are going to see a lot of action. My husbands in Iraq right now. Has 0 kills and probably will keep it that way.
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#64 UnknownSniper65
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Yep i sure would serve just like my grandpa and my dadUnknownSniper65
althought to be fair if i were to join right out of Highschool i would be the first to ever go into a war
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#65 Lilac_Benjie
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[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]I would rather be killed than kill someone else.
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by fighting for your country you would be helping to protect American values, your family and Families across the US.



I am English. My army once warred with your army, and killed many Americans.
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#66 LJS9502_basic
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True as this may be, I do not need to contribute to the destruction if I can avoid it.

I am a vegetarian man. I'm hardly going to go and fight in some war.
Lilac_Benjie

Self preservation makes a killer out of everyone.....

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#67 Theempire30
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Never, war is pointless, and after every war there is always another one.
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#68 Hero6_basic
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I would only fight the war from my neighbourhood so I can camp. Patrick
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#69 Account_27
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Only if I felt strongly in the cause.
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#70 Lilac_Benjie
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[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]

True as this may be, I do not need to contribute to the destruction if I can avoid it.

I am a vegetarian man. I'm hardly going to go and fight in some war.
LJS9502_basic

Self preservation makes a killer out of everyone.....


Not including myself, or Tibet, of course.
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[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]I would rather be killed than kill someone else.
Lilac_Benjie
by fighting for your country you would be helping to protect American values, your family and Families across the US.



I am English. My army once warred with your army, and killed many Americans.

Well if you forgot we beat you, and we could beat you now. its not the time to say you killed many Americans, we saved much of Europe in WW2 from the Germans. if you want to reword that then go ahead but im not going to
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#72 M1Hunter66
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[QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="marolia"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I served for four years.....that should answer your question.LJS9502_basic

It must have been tough or ??

I liked it....

ive probably asked you already and you probably told me, but i forget either way lol. Who did you serve with?..if you dont mind me asking.

519th....Fort Bragg.

I love light infantry. Im with 4-64 in 3ID right now and mech sucks so bad, lol. Anyway I enlisted for 6 years and am a few months away from my deployment to the sandbox.
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#73 SolidSnake35
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I wouldn't join the army because I'm a little girl when it comes to things like that. At least I'm honest. >_>
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#74 Lilac_Benjie
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[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"][QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]I would rather be killed than kill someone else.
UrbanSpartan125
by fighting for your country you would be helping to protect American values, your family and Families across the US.



I am English. My army once warred with your army, and killed many Americans.

Well if you forgot we beat you, and we could beat you now. if you want to reword that then go ahead but im not going to



I did not forget. You think you could beat us now? Why would you think such a horrible thing? Why would you even want war between England and the States?


And my wording was perfectly apt. Read the entire thread damnit.
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#75 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]

True as this may be, I do not need to contribute to the destruction if I can avoid it.

I am a vegetarian man. I'm hardly going to go and fight in some war.
Lilac_Benjie

Self preservation makes a killer out of everyone.....


Not including myself, or Tibet, of course.

You can't answer that until put to the test......
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I love light infantry. Im with 4-64 in 3ID right now and mech sucks so bad, lol. Anyway I enlisted for 6 years and am a few months away from my deployment to the sandbox. M1Hunter66

519th is light infantry now?  Ah well...it was MI when I was there.

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#77 msteryx
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In fact, i'm already in training for the army.
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#78 Lilac_Benjie
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[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]

True as this may be, I do not need to contribute to the destruction if I can avoid it.

I am a vegetarian man. I'm hardly going to go and fight in some war.
LJS9502_basic

Self preservation makes a killer out of everyone.....


Not including myself, or Tibet, of course.

You can't answer that until put to the test......



Perhaps. But my ideals are still there.
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#79 xhellcatx
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]

True as this may be, I do not need to contribute to the destruction if I can avoid it.

I am a vegetarian man. I'm hardly going to go and fight in some war.
Lilac_Benjie

Self preservation makes a killer out of everyone.....


Not including myself, or Tibet, of course.

Im just gonna say Cause and Effect. Someone is pointing a gun at someone, you know they are going to pull the trigger. You yourself have the means to stop this from happening, via gun or whatever else you may have. You do nothing to stop it, leaving that person to get shot, plus countless others. Making YOU...yes you, also a murderer, because you did nothing to stop said deaths.
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#80 Media_geek20
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No. Why? Here are a few reasons:
  1. I'm not in great physical condition, I have asthma and I have pretty bad eyesight. I wouldn't do much good for them.
  2. I don't want to get stuck in a war that I don't support.
  3. It's extremely dangerous.
  4. This is not what I want to do with my life.
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#81 xhellcatx
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[QUOTE="M1Hunter66"]I love light infantry. Im with 4-64 in 3ID right now and mech sucks so bad, lol. Anyway I enlisted for 6 years and am a few months away from my deployment to the sandbox. LJS9502_basic

519th is light infantry now?  Ah well...it was MI when I was there.

O_o it still is....unless im missing something lol
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[QUOTE="M1Hunter66"]I love light infantry. Im with 4-64 in 3ID right now and mech sucks so bad, lol. Anyway I enlisted for 6 years and am a few months away from my deployment to the sandbox. LJS9502_basic

519th is light infantry now? Ah well...it was MI when I was there.

Really, I must have been misinformed. I was told that all the units out of Bragg were light. I suppose I was wrong then. That doesn't change the fact that I hate mech. What was your MOS?
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#83 LJS9502_basic
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Perhaps. But my ideals are still there.
Lilac_Benjie

Has it never occured to you that the military works to preserve ideals?  The ideals of a nation....and no I don't mean a government but a people?

Seriously, how do you think the world would operate without them?

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#84 xhellcatx
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No. Why? Here are a few reasons:
  1. I'm not in great physical condition, I have asthma and I have pretty bad eyesight. I wouldn't do much good for them.
  2. I don't want to get stuck in a war that I don't support.
  3. It's extremely dangerous.
  4. This is not what I want to do with my life.
Media_geek20
you could work on the computers? ^_^
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#85 mikeroussos
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i see no point in the 21 century for armies to exist.when 99% of the countries are democratic then were will the threat come from.
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#86 Lilac_Benjie
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[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]

True as this may be, I do not need to contribute to the destruction if I can avoid it.

I am a vegetarian man. I'm hardly going to go and fight in some war.
xhellcatx

Self preservation makes a killer out of everyone.....


Not including myself, or Tibet, of course.

Im just gonna say Cause and Effect. Someone is pointing a gun at someone, you know they are going to pull the trigger. You yourself have the means to stop this from happening, via gun or whatever else you may have. You do nothing to stop it, leaving that person to get shot, plus countless others. Making YOU...yes you, also a murderer, because you did nothing to stop said deaths.


That's a steaming pile of crap and you know it.
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#87 xhellcatx
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="M1Hunter66"]I love light infantry. Im with 4-64 in 3ID right now and mech sucks so bad, lol. Anyway I enlisted for 6 years and am a few months away from my deployment to the sandbox. M1Hunter66

519th is light infantry now? Ah well...it was MI when I was there.

Really, I must have been misinformed. I was told that all the units out of Bragg were light. I suppose I was wrong then. That doesn't change the fact that I hate mech. What was your MOS?

yea you were misinformed, but thats ok :) mistakes happen ^_^
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#88 M1Hunter66
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[QUOTE="Media_geek20"]No. Why? Here are a few reasons:
  1. I'm not in great physical condition, I have asthma and I have pretty bad eyesight. I wouldn't do much good for them.
  2. I don't want to get stuck in a war that I don't support.
  3. It's extremely dangerous.
  4. This is not what I want to do with my life.
xhellcatx
you could work on the computers? ^_^

He could be in supply, and spend all day and night in Iraq counting 5.56 and 7.62 rounds.
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#89 Lilac_Benjie
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Seriously, how do you think the world would operate without them?LJS9502_basic


A world with no armies whatsoever? Seriously?
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#90 xhellcatx
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[QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]

True as this may be, I do not need to contribute to the destruction if I can avoid it.

I am a vegetarian man. I'm hardly going to go and fight in some war.
Lilac_Benjie

Self preservation makes a killer out of everyone.....


Not including myself, or Tibet, of course.

Im just gonna say Cause and Effect. Someone is pointing a gun at someone, you know they are going to pull the trigger. You yourself have the means to stop this from happening, via gun or whatever else you may have. You do nothing to stop it, leaving that person to get shot, plus countless others. Making YOU...yes you, also a murderer, because you did nothing to stop said deaths.


That's a steaming pile of crap and you know it.

no, it is not. I know DAMN well that if I saw something of the sort happening and I could stop it and I did NOTHING to prevent it from happening, I would most DEFINATLY feel like a murderer. Kill ONE EVIL to save HUNDREDS OF INNOCENTS, instead of 'oh i cant kill anyone...', or "im too scared to kill someone". That in my eyes is cowardice.
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well only if my country is threatened.....and no not falsely threatened like the US is today......I mean war with another country..
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#92 LJS9502_basic
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i see no point in the 21 century for armies to exist.when 99% of the countries are democratic then were will the threat come from.mikeroussos
Disband your military and see how many countries respect your borders...
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#93 Marioarm2
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I'd be way too scared to go to war. Plus I'd probably fail at basic training.
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#94 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Seriously, how do you think the world would operate without them?Lilac_Benjie


A world with no armies whatsoever? Seriously?

Yes...what do you think would happen? Research some history and see why armies became important. You shouldn't be that naive.....you're more intelligent than that.
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#95 Hewkii
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No. it is only chance that I was born here, I don't feel that I should pay for chance.
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#96 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="M1Hunter66"]I love light infantry. Im with 4-64 in 3ID right now and mech sucks so bad, lol. Anyway I enlisted for 6 years and am a few months away from my deployment to the sandbox. M1Hunter66

519th is light infantry now? Ah well...it was MI when I was there.

Really, I must have been misinformed. I was told that all the units out of Bragg were light. I suppose I was wrong then. That doesn't change the fact that I hate mech. What was your MOS?

98G.....
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#97 Lilac_Benjie
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[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"][QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]

True as this may be, I do not need to contribute to the destruction if I can avoid it.

I am a vegetarian man. I'm hardly going to go and fight in some war.
xhellcatx

Self preservation makes a killer out of everyone.....


Not including myself, or Tibet, of course.

Im just gonna say Cause and Effect. Someone is pointing a gun at someone, you know they are going to pull the trigger. You yourself have the means to stop this from happening, via gun or whatever else you may have. You do nothing to stop it, leaving that person to get shot, plus countless others. Making YOU...yes you, also a murderer, because you did nothing to stop said deaths.


That's a steaming pile of crap and you know it.

no, it is not. I know DAMN well that if I saw something of the sort happening and I could stop it and I did NOTHING to prevent it from happening, I would most DEFINATLY feel like a murderer. Kill ONE EVIL to save HUNDREDS OF INNOCENTS, instead of 'oh i cant kill anyone...', or "im too scared to kill someone". That in my eyes is cowardice.


Kill one evil to save hundreds of innocents? Isn't that exactly how the enemies soldiers will see you?


I still think that your full of crap.
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#98 whoody12
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I would join for the thrill of it.AnimeKiller

you obviously dont know what war is my boy

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[QUOTE="mikeroussos"]i see no point in the 21 century for armies to exist.when 99% of the countries are democratic then were will the threat come from.LJS9502_basic
Disband your military and see how many countries respect your borders...

Look how Europe is doing....

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#100 marolia
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[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"][QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]

True as this may be, I do not need to contribute to the destruction if I can avoid it.

I am a vegetarian man. I'm hardly going to go and fight in some war.
xhellcatx

Self preservation makes a killer out of everyone.....


Not including myself, or Tibet, of course.

Im just gonna say Cause and Effect. Someone is pointing a gun at someone, you know they are going to pull the trigger. You yourself have the means to stop this from happening, via gun or whatever else you may have. You do nothing to stop it, leaving that person to get shot, plus countless others. Making YOU...yes you, also a murderer, because you did nothing to stop said deaths.


That's a steaming pile of crap and you know it.

no, it is not. I know DAMN well that if I saw something of the sort happening and I could stop it and I did NOTHING to prevent it from happening, I would most DEFINATLY feel like a murderer. Kill ONE EVIL to save HUNDREDS OF INNOCENTS, instead of 'oh i cant kill anyone...', or "im too scared to kill someone". That in my eyes is cowardice.


What if the guy with the gun is not alone.