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#1 SempiternalFett
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But how do we know stars exist? I mean, we classify the sun as a star in our solar system- THE closest star to Earth. However, it takes approximately eight minutes for the light from the sun to travel to the Earth. So, logically, no human being has ever truly seen the sun, but merely the light of the sun of eight minutes ago. Likewise, stars that are millions of lightyears away could have burned out decades ago and we still, today, would be able to 'see' them, but like the reasoning with the sun in OUR solar system, we're still only seeing the light that they emit.

So I guess what I'm getting at is- how do we prove stars exist? All knowledge of the heat we receive from the sun aside, will technology eventually go beyond the visual aspect aspect of identifying a star? Can we reach the sun? And, just for fun, if we claim stars exist and we cannot technically see the stars themselves, can a 'God' or higher being of any sort exist though we cannot technically see it?
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#2 AgostonF
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After reading the first sentance I can only tell you this *insert Scientific reason why there are stars or how they appear here*. I'd wiki it if I wasn't half asleep.
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#3 SempiternalFett
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After reading the first sentance I can only tell you this *insert Scientific reason why there are stars or how they appear here*. I'd wiki it if I wasn't half asleep.AgostonF
Good work, detective.
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#4 halfnaked
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good point but im sure that there is a simple explanation to your question
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But how do we know stars exist? I mean, we classify the sun as a star in our solar system- THE closest star to Earth. However, it takes approximately eight minutes for the light from the sun to travel to the Earth. So, logically, no human being has ever truly seen the sun, but merely the light of the sun of eight minutes ago. Likewise, stars that are millions of lightyears away could have burned out decades ago and we still, today, would be able to 'see' them, but like the reasoning with the sun in OUR solar system, we're still only seeing the light that they emit.

So I guess what I'm getting at is- how do we prove stars exist? All knowledge of the heat we receive from the sun aside, will technology eventually go beyond the visual aspect aspect of identifying a star? Can we reach the sun? And, just for fun, if we claim stars exist and we cannot technically see the stars themselves, can a 'God' or higher being of any sort exist though we cannot technically see it?
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if they wernt solid they woudl nto be detected by radar. depends if they can be sonicly imagioed or if they show up on radar. and a nebula, a huge cloud of gas and dust is created from an exploding star. if stars wernt solid, nebulas woudlnt exist.
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[QUOTE="SempiternalFett"]But how do we know stars exist? I mean, we classify the sun as a star in our solar system- THE closest star to Earth. However, it takes approximately eight minutes for the light from the sun to travel to the Earth. So, logically, no human being has ever truly seen the sun, but merely the light of the sun of eight minutes ago. Likewise, stars that are millions of lightyears away could have burned out decades ago and we still, today, would be able to 'see' them, but like the reasoning with the sun in OUR solar system, we're still only seeing the light that they emit.

So I guess what I'm getting at is- how do we prove stars exist? All knowledge of the heat we receive from the sun aside, will technology eventually go beyond the visual aspect aspect of identifying a star? Can we reach the sun? And, just for fun, if we claim stars exist and we cannot technically see the stars themselves, can a 'God' or higher being of any sort exist though we cannot technically see it?
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if they wernt solid they woudl nto be detected by radar. depends if they can be sonicly imagioed or if they show up on radar. and a nebula, a huge cloud of gas and dust is created from an exploding star. if stars wernt solid, nebulas woudlnt exist.


.....or would they?
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#7 ForlornHope
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[QUOTE="ForlornHope"][QUOTE="SempiternalFett"]But how do we know stars exist? I mean, we classify the sun as a star in our solar system- THE closest star to Earth. However, it takes approximately eight minutes for the light from the sun to travel to the Earth. So, logically, no human being has ever truly seen the sun, but merely the light of the sun of eight minutes ago. Likewise, stars that are millions of lightyears away could have burned out decades ago and we still, today, would be able to 'see' them, but like the reasoning with the sun in OUR solar system, we're still only seeing the light that they emit.

So I guess what I'm getting at is- how do we prove stars exist? All knowledge of the heat we receive from the sun aside, will technology eventually go beyond the visual aspect aspect of identifying a star? Can we reach the sun? And, just for fun, if we claim stars exist and we cannot technically see the stars themselves, can a 'God' or higher being of any sort exist though we cannot technically see it?
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if they wernt solid they woudl nto be detected by radar. depends if they can be sonicly imagioed or if they show up on radar. and a nebula, a huge cloud of gas and dust is created from an exploding star. if stars wernt solid, nebulas woudlnt exist.


.....or would they?




No they woudn't. whart kind of dumb retorical pandoras boxish knid of post is that :S :P
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Well, just start your stopwatch and if the sun is still visible in the sky eight minutes from now, you will at least know that one star existed when you asked this question.
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#9 AgostonF
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[QUOTE="AgostonF"]After reading the first sentance I can only tell you this *insert Scientific reason why there are stars or how they appear here*. I'd wiki it if I wasn't half asleep.SempiternalFett
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#10 cjek
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Well of course some stars that we see don't exist now, but most of them probably do. If our sun has been there since life has been here, then other stars can probably live just as long, and probably longer, as our star is a pretty average one
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#11 Crucifier
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with the TC's flawed logic, you dont EVER really see ANYTHING.  light travels at a certain speed, no matter what it is you see. if you were standing right next to me, i wouldnt see you instantly, i would see you after the light travels from the surface of you to my eyes.

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But how do we know stars exist? I mean, we classify the sun as a star in our solar system- THE closest star to Earth. However, it takes approximately eight minutes for the light from the sun to travel to the Earth. So, logically, no human being has ever truly seen the sun, but merely the light of the sun of eight minutes ago. Likewise, stars that are millions of lightyears away could have burned out decades ago and we still, today, would be able to 'see' them, but like the reasoning with the sun in OUR solar system, we're still only seeing the light that they emit.

So I guess what I'm getting at is- how do we prove stars exist? All knowledge of the heat we receive from the sun aside, will technology eventually go beyond the visual aspect aspect of identifying a star? Can we reach the sun? And, just for fun, if we claim stars exist and we cannot technically see the stars themselves, can a 'God' or higher being of any sort exist though we cannot technically see it?
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By your logic, nothing around you exists, you're only seeing them when the oh so slow light reflected off them hits your eyes. That's how we see.. IT's not that we see what is there, but rather we see the light reflected of them. What I want to know is how I prove how USA exists.. I've never personally seen the country with my eyes and as we all know, pictures are not absolute truth! :o