How you feel about air pollution falling drastically and animals moving freely more ?

Globally air pollution has fallen drastically and animals are moving more freely in the streets during the quarantine.Water is more clean now.

Isn't it how Karma works? Nature against Humans? For decades Humans have polluted the world , now its payback time from nature?

We all should learn a lesson about not disrupting nature anymore if we survive through the pandemic. Also glad China, Korea banned eating of exotic and wild animals.

Well?

For me, it's a reminder that if we were to go extinct tomorrow, the Universe will not miss us. Life will go on, erosive processes will pretty much wipe out all evidence of our existence within barely a blip in the geological timescales, and the world and universe will roll on, unconcerned and unperturbed by our absence.

Puts things into perspective of how insignificant we and our petty concerns are in the grand scheme of things.

Yup, pretty much.

Pretty pissed because I am not some tree hugger. Nature sucks as South Park illustrates in its rainforest episode.

Pollution is good as long as it doesn’t effect human life.

I just watched dark waters... good movie

This is pretty much the plot of Horizion: Zero Dawn.

@Byshop:

I was going to say TC was one step ahead of initiating the plot of Kingsman Secret service XD

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It's amazing how fast nature would be able to return to a relatively normal/stable state if humans were to just disappear entirely. At this point I just wonder how much further we can push it until most of the world is inhabitable. Mankind's greed and arrogance will lead to our demise and we totally deserve it.

At least some good comes out of all this.

I don't think it's karma because nature itself is a cruel mistress. When we talk about the beauty of nature I think we mean very select handpicked parts of nature that are beautiful. The rest of it is corpses, shitting, pain and cruelty.

I don't think mankind could do much that would stand out, compared to the destruction and carelessness prevalent in nature. In that sense I think mankind is surely a destroyer like many things in nature, but also has the more unique power to shape nature into something less hurtful.

But I'm happy that the air becomes less polluted. I even heard people say that the cleaner air may end up saving more people than the coronavirus kills. Who knows, I hope that to be true.

Cruelty is deliberate, so unless you think that animals and/or the planet itself have the intention to cause pain and suffering for their own amusement, then cruelty is exclusive to humanity.

That's what make us the worst species on Earth - we can do better, but chose not to with some being as shitty as possible on purpose.

It's a window into a more eco-friendly future. Hopefully this will be enough of a motivation for humanity.

Except it involves red heads. :P

I'm kinda loving it. It has shown us just how much our daily pollution affects the local environment we live in.

Well, we've got an electric car/solar panels, so....

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That's not how karma works, and thinking this is some form of poetic justice/retaliation is a bit gross. Don't be a misanthrope.

But yeah, I agree overall, the world is definitely in better shape than it was three or so months ago. As I said in another thread, I hope we learn from this and realize that, yes, humans do have a large impact on the environment.

Exactly, pretty much this.

It is amazing! I mean it took months, not years, to get the air significantly clean. And I don't see nearly as much garbage on the road as I normally do.

Maybe we should, as a planet, just take three months off of work every year.

Really depressed. Because I know that the moment things are back to normal, we will once again **** the environment. We never learn.

Hm maybe. I don't think humans have much to choose. I don't necessarily believe in a free will. Only insomuch that it's a free choice that may as well have already been made. A person sees certain options and 'picks' the one he/she deems best for as much as he/she is in control. It's very deterministic of us, for having a free will and all. Maybe our awareness is different than that of animals, but I don't see much of a difference in choice in human beings. Maybe humans have more options in their mind and in practice, and maybe the decisions are less pre-programmed and more of an on the spot analysis, but I don't know about an actual ability to choose. As such, I think differently than most people about intentions or deliberate action. To me all humans have the right intentions deep inside. We all want the same in the end. Any differences in our idea of a paradise seem inconsequential. I consider the differences in our actions to be a result of our inability to understand each other and this world, and a lack of control over our situation and ourselves. When I talk cruelty I don't think about deliberateness. I just compare it to alternative ways of being and think the natural way of being is cruel.

(I think the reason I picked the word cruelty may be exposing a little religious side of me. If there is a deliberateness in cruelty I may have been suggesting subconsciously that whoever is in control of this world, it seems they have a world that leaves some room for improvement. You know, I would be delighted to work with them on that and see if we can make this world a little nicer.)

It's interesting to me how people can look at nature and think it's beautiful. We even sell products that say 'all natural.' I wonder, do they know that cyanide is all natural? If you look at it from a sideline there's so much nasty stuff going on. Terrible illnesses, parasites, venom, traps, rape, wars. I guess it's the same thing we do with pirates. Fantasy pirates are pretty cool compared to the real deal. Let's just say the moment I came across a frog swimming in a bowl of water in my yard with half a face missing because it was being eaten alive by parasites, it made me stop in my tracks and look differently at humans having pets. Before that I always thought it was irresponsible of people to keep pets because we don't know for sure what they want and we do keep them imprisoned in ways. But after that I realised that such a life can be quite an improvement over what nature had in store for them.

So for me, saving the environment wouldn't be returning the environment to a state as if humans aren't there. Because nature scares me. So no, I don't think that animals returning to the cities are necessarily a good sign. I don't know what to think of that. For me, saving the environment would mean to reshape nature in ways that it can cause less pain and suffering. That's why I feel positive about the air pollution diminishing.

Omg I'm sorry I typed way too much again.

@KungfuKitten: You should check out the new sci-fi series "Devs" on Hulu and FX.

True. Everything we do just basically amounts to meaningless gimmicks because aren't willing to sacrifice anything immediate for potential future benefits.

I hope this motivates people to be better to the environment after the pandemic, it is disgusting to see all the pollution of masks and gloves from ignorant imbeciles. I do think humans as a species have overpopulated and significantly abused the earth, so it is hard to think of us ever fixing all the damage we have done in human history.

Read today that you can see Mt Everest from India for the first time in 30 years. That's pretty incredible, especially given the amount of unregulated industry/pollution in that area of the world.

Not a fan