how would you feel about a new world order.

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#1 Posted by evildead6789 (7637 posts) -

A new world order where science, innovation is funded enough so it can progress faster

Where hunger and poverty don't exist, where no one has to work

Basically , a goverment that spans word wilde. Who taxes the richest enough to fund all these things.

When it would exist, science would progress so fast, we could pretty much automate everything, we would conquer space in no time, diseases would no longer exist. We would even have conquered death.

#2 Edited by Master_Live (14430 posts) -

I feel that whatever doesn't get funded, makes you ranger.

#3 Posted by jasean79 (2371 posts) -

That world would never exist, so no.

#4 Posted by SUD123456 (4446 posts) -

Fantasyland. Where none of your points makes sense.

#5 Edited by indzman (17601 posts) -

Drax wanted to try , alas MI6 disagreed !

#6 Edited by jasean79 (2371 posts) -

Where hunger and poverty don't exist, where no one has to work

Who taxes the richest enough to fund all these things.

What makes no sense, other than your whole post, are these two points.

If no one has to work, then how can the rich be taxed? What would separate the rich from the poor if no one worked?

The more you post, the more I'm convinced that the whole 145 IQ spiel was a joke.

#7 Posted by BSC14 (3769 posts) -

A new world order where science, innovation is funded enough so it can progress faster

Where hunger and poverty don't exist, where no one has to work

Basically , a goverment that spans word wilde. Who taxes the richest enough to fund all these things.

When it would exist, science would progress so fast, we could pretty much automate everything, we would conquer space in no time, diseases would no longer exist. We would even have conquered death.

hmmm....

You're talking about taking money away from people who are wealthy and giving to others so that they don't have to work? So regardless if they worked their backsides off for that $$ this one world government is just going to come in and take it away and hand it out to all the public so that they don't have to work? Wow.....take from the hard working and just give it away. And if no one is working and the rich get sucked dry from this craptastic dictatorship of a government....what keeps things going then? What's the economy running off of then?

No amount of science will ever fix all the problems you have listed. Death will come for all...no way around it. Science might find a way to slow it down but it will always be.

And what incentive would people have for all this innovation when you're stealing all their money to give it to the public so that they don't have to work? Who wants to work for free? You're basically talking about creating a government that creates a bunch of lazy bastards and depends on the few who have money. Oh wait that's the direction we are headed now isn't it?

#8 Posted by jun_aka_pekto (15990 posts) -

A new world order where science, innovation is funded enough so it can progress faster

Where hunger and poverty don't exist, where no one has to work

Basically , a goverment that spans word wilde. Who taxes the richest enough to fund all these things.

When it would exist, science would progress so fast, we could pretty much automate everything, we would conquer space in no time, diseases would no longer exist. We would even have conquered death.

I don't know how a society will function without anyone working.

#9 Posted by dave123321 (33998 posts) -

No science can save us

#10 Edited by AutoPilotOn (8436 posts) -

Lol so nobody has to work and we just live off the rich? How does anything advance with nobody working. How do you get good clothes shelter healthcare with nobody working? How long do the rich stay rich with nobody working or buying anything?

#11 Posted by crazyguy111 (211 posts) -

not gud

#12 Posted by evildead6789 (7637 posts) -

@BSC14 said:

@evildead6789 said:

A new world order where science, innovation is funded enough so it can progress faster

Where hunger and poverty don't exist, where no one has to work

Basically , a goverment that spans word wilde. Who taxes the richest enough to fund all these things.

When it would exist, science would progress so fast, we could pretty much automate everything, we would conquer space in no time, diseases would no longer exist. We would even have conquered death.

hmmm....

You're talking about taking money away from people who are wealthy and giving to others so that they don't have to work? So regardless if they worked their backsides off for that $$ this one world government is just going to come in and take it away and hand it out to all the public so that they don't have to work? Wow.....take from the hard working and just give it away. And if no one is working and the rich get sucked dry from this craptastic dictatorship of a government....what keeps things going then? What's the economy running off of then?

No amount of science will ever fix all the problems you have listed. Death will come for all...no way around it. Science might find a way to slow it down but it will always be.

And what incentive would people have for all this innovation when you're stealing all their money to give it to the public so that they don't have to work? Who wants to work for free? You're basically talking about creating a government that creates a bunch of lazy bastards and depends on the few who have money. Oh wait that's the direction we are headed now isn't it?

only the wealthiest. the 85 richest people in the world have the same amount of money as the 3.4 billion poorest. In the end even them would get richer because the massive progress we would made in science, it would be more like borrowing the money.

If you can create anything out of thin air because of nanotech, never die. Not even the wealthiest man can do that

They would still be a lot richer than others too, we wouldn't take all their money , only a small percentage.

The economy would simply keep on existing because everything would be automated, people could still be richer than other if they do want to work, like in art or science for instance, or teaching.

Basically if they want to do jobs that can't be automated

#13 Posted by foxhound_fox (88068 posts) -

Everything sounded great until a broader, more encroaching government.

#14 Posted by evildead6789 (7637 posts) -

Everything sounded great until a broader, more encroaching government.

yes but a government that has politicians from everywhere, not just russians, or americans or chinese.

#15 Posted by foxhound_fox (88068 posts) -

@foxhound_fox said:

Everything sounded great until a broader, more encroaching government.

yes but a government that has politicians from everywhere, not just russians, or americans or chinese.

The problem isn't the politicians.

#16 Posted by dave123321 (33998 posts) -

Tc learn about the world

#17 Posted by lostrib (35889 posts) -

seems like an awful idea

#18 Posted by airshocker (29405 posts) -

If people have the choice not to work, they won't. So I really don't think this NWO would work.

#19 Posted by CyberLips (1823 posts) -

A new world order where science, innovation is funded enough so it can progress faster

Where hunger and poverty don't exist, where no one has to work

Basically , a goverment that spans word wilde. Who taxes the richest enough to fund all these things.

When it would exist, science would progress so fast, we could pretty much automate everything, we would conquer space in no time, diseases would no longer exist. We would even have conquered death.

That's never going to happen.

#20 Posted by evildead6789 (7637 posts) -

If people have the choice not to work, they won't. So I really don't think this NWO would work.

they have a choice not to work where i live

people are still working...

#21 Posted by airshocker (29405 posts) -

@airshocker said:

If people have the choice not to work, they won't. So I really don't think this NWO would work.

they have a choice not to work where i live

people are still working...

Not true. Unemployment protection isn't the same thing as being paid not to work. If people have that choice, they won't work. Simple as that. Not to mention it's patently unfair to those that do work. No society can be forever funded by the haves. Everyone needs to chip in.

#22 Posted by foxhound_fox (88068 posts) -

If people have the choice not to work, they won't. So I really don't think this NWO would work.

Unless we had an army of robot labourers to do the work for us.

#23 Posted by airshocker (29405 posts) -

@airshocker said:

If people have the choice not to work, they won't. So I really don't think this NWO would work.

Unless we had an army of robot labourers to do the work for us.

Eventually that will be the case.

#24 Posted by AutoPilotOn (8436 posts) -
#25 Posted by evildead6789 (7637 posts) -

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

If people have the choice not to work, they won't. So I really don't think this NWO would work.

they have a choice not to work where i live

people are still working...

Not true. Unemployment protection isn't the same thing as being paid not to work. If people have that choice, they won't work. Simple as that. Not to mention it's patently unfair to those that do work. No society can be forever funded by the haves. Everyone needs to chip in.

This is not the usa, my friend

If I don't want to work, I don't have to work and still get paid, I will be paid less of course but I will still get paid

Unemployement protection is a different system, that only comes into play when you lose your job. If you never had a job we have another system, that gives you a house and money

#26 Posted by jasean79 (2371 posts) -

@airshocker said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

If people have the choice not to work, they won't. So I really don't think this NWO would work.

they have a choice not to work where i live

people are still working...

Not true. Unemployment protection isn't the same thing as being paid not to work. If people have that choice, they won't work. Simple as that. Not to mention it's patently unfair to those that do work. No society can be forever funded by the haves. Everyone needs to chip in.

This is not the usa, my friend

If I don't want to work, I don't have to work and still get paid, I will be paid less of course but I will still get paid

Unemployement protection is a different system, that only comes into play when you lose your job. If you never had a job we have another system, that gives you a house and money

Yes, but someone is paying for you to have that house and money. It's not like the money grows on trees or the government is giving it to you at no cost. Someone's picking up the tab.

#27 Edited by evildead6789 (7637 posts) -

@jasean79 said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

If people have the choice not to work, they won't. So I really don't think this NWO would work.

they have a choice not to work where i live

people are still working...

Not true. Unemployment protection isn't the same thing as being paid not to work. If people have that choice, they won't work. Simple as that. Not to mention it's patently unfair to those that do work. No society can be forever funded by the haves. Everyone needs to chip in.

This is not the usa, my friend

If I don't want to work, I don't have to work and still get paid, I will be paid less of course but I will still get paid

Unemployement protection is a different system, that only comes into play when you lose your job. If you never had a job we have another system, that gives you a house and money

Yes, but someone is paying for you to have that house and money. It's not like the money grows on trees or the government is giving it to you at no cost. Someone's picking up the tab.

of course someone's picking up the tab

what else are taxes for

armies?

#28 Edited by airshocker (29405 posts) -

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

If people have the choice not to work, they won't. So I really don't think this NWO would work.

they have a choice not to work where i live

people are still working...

Not true. Unemployment protection isn't the same thing as being paid not to work. If people have that choice, they won't work. Simple as that. Not to mention it's patently unfair to those that do work. No society can be forever funded by the haves. Everyone needs to chip in.

This is not the usa, my friend

If I don't want to work, I don't have to work and still get paid, I will be paid less of course but I will still get paid

Unemployement protection is a different system, that only comes into play when you lose your job. If you never had a job we have another system, that gives you a house and money

Thankfully we're not like that. Basically what you are referring to is the beginning of the end of society. If your country didn't have people that worked and paid for people like you, your entire world would fall apart.

I won't ever support a system like that.

And it also doesn't change the fact that you could find work, you just choose not to.

#29 Posted by jasean79 (2371 posts) -

@jasean79 said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

If people have the choice not to work, they won't. So I really don't think this NWO would work.

they have a choice not to work where i live

people are still working...

Not true. Unemployment protection isn't the same thing as being paid not to work. If people have that choice, they won't work. Simple as that. Not to mention it's patently unfair to those that do work. No society can be forever funded by the haves. Everyone needs to chip in.

This is not the usa, my friend

If I don't want to work, I don't have to work and still get paid, I will be paid less of course but I will still get paid

Unemployement protection is a different system, that only comes into play when you lose your job. If you never had a job we have another system, that gives you a house and money

Yes, but someone is paying for you to have that house and money. It's not like the money grows on trees or the government is giving it to you at no cost. Someone's picking up the tab.

of course someone's picking up the tab

what else are taxes for

armies?

So it's okay that taxpayers fund your laziness...great mentality.

#30 Posted by plageus900 (1046 posts) -

A new world order where science, innovation is funded enough so it can progress faster

Where hunger and poverty don't exist, where no one has to work

Basically , a goverment that spans word wilde. Who taxes the richest enough to fund all these things.

When it would exist, science would progress so fast, we could pretty much automate everything, we would conquer space in no time, diseases would no longer exist. We would even have conquered death.

Wut.

#31 Edited by osirisx3 (1772 posts) -

people who scream about how bad the new order will be make me lol. IS what we have now really that good?

#32 Posted by airshocker (29405 posts) -

@osirisx3 said:

people who scream about how bad the new order will be make me lol. IS what we have now really that good?

Better than a dictatorship. Better than living in forced poverty aka communism.

#33 Edited by osirisx3 (1772 posts) -

@osirisx3 said:

people who scream about how bad the new order will be make me lol. IS what we have now really that good?

Better than a dictatorship. Better than living in forced poverty aka communism.

There has never been a communist country

#34 Posted by airshocker (29405 posts) -

@osirisx3 said:

@airshocker said:

@osirisx3 said:

people who scream about how bad the new order will be make me lol. IS what we have now really that good?

Better than a dictatorship. Better than living in forced poverty aka communism.

There has never been a communist country

Yes, there has. They've all fallen.

The problem with communism is it's always corrupt and it inevitably turns into totalitarianism.

Some would say even socialism will eventually turn into communism.

So yeah, you can take your insane ideas somewhere else.

#35 Posted by evildead6789 (7637 posts) -

@osirisx3 said:

@airshocker said:

@osirisx3 said:

people who scream about how bad the new order will be make me lol. IS what we have now really that good?

Better than a dictatorship. Better than living in forced poverty aka communism.

There has never been a communist country

Yes, there has. They've all fallen.

The problem with communism is it's always corrupt and it inevitably turns into totalitarianism.

Some would say even socialism will eventually turn into communism.

So yeah, you can take your insane ideas somewhere else.

I never said anything about communism

communism is where everybody has the same

and the leaders have a lot more

#36 Posted by airshocker (29405 posts) -

@airshocker said:

@osirisx3 said:

@airshocker said:

@osirisx3 said:

people who scream about how bad the new order will be make me lol. IS what we have now really that good?

Better than a dictatorship. Better than living in forced poverty aka communism.

There has never been a communist country

Yes, there has. They've all fallen.

The problem with communism is it's always corrupt and it inevitably turns into totalitarianism.

Some would say even socialism will eventually turn into communism.

So yeah, you can take your insane ideas somewhere else.

I never said anything about communism

communism is where everybody has the same

and the leaders have a lot more

Where does it say your username ANYWHERE in that post chain? No where. I wasn't talking to you.

#37 Posted by evildead6789 (7637 posts) -

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

If people have the choice not to work, they won't. So I really don't think this NWO would work.

they have a choice not to work where i live

people are still working...

Not true. Unemployment protection isn't the same thing as being paid not to work. If people have that choice, they won't work. Simple as that. Not to mention it's patently unfair to those that do work. No society can be forever funded by the haves. Everyone needs to chip in.

This is not the usa, my friend

If I don't want to work, I don't have to work and still get paid, I will be paid less of course but I will still get paid

Unemployement protection is a different system, that only comes into play when you lose your job. If you never had a job we have another system, that gives you a house and money

Thankfully we're not like that. Basically what you are referring to is the beginning of the end of society. If your country didn't have people that worked and paid for people like you, your entire world would fall apart.

I won't ever support a system like that.

And it also doesn't change the fact that you could find work, you just choose not to.

like me?

you don't even know me. People need some kind of work, otherwise they get bored, besides when you work here , you do earn more

People don't need to steal here, so there's less crime, do you realize how much less that costs the government for cops?

they can also study while not working , so anyone can be an engineer or doctor here. You think when people are given a chance they don't have any ambition?

you got a lot to learn my friend

#38 Edited by evildead6789 (7637 posts) -

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

@osirisx3 said:

@airshocker said:

@osirisx3 said:

people who scream about how bad the new order will be make me lol. IS what we have now really that good?

Better than a dictatorship. Better than living in forced poverty aka communism.

There has never been a communist country

Yes, there has. They've all fallen.

The problem with communism is it's always corrupt and it inevitably turns into totalitarianism.

Some would say even socialism will eventually turn into communism.

So yeah, you can take your insane ideas somewhere else.

I never said anything about communism

communism is where everybody has the same

and the leaders have a lot more

Where does it say your username ANYWHERE in that post chain? No where. I wasn't talking to you.

This is still my thread

and this was about what i have said?

learn to pay attention...

#39 Posted by airshocker (29405 posts) -

@airshocker said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

If people have the choice not to work, they won't. So I really don't think this NWO would work.

they have a choice not to work where i live

people are still working...

Not true. Unemployment protection isn't the same thing as being paid not to work. If people have that choice, they won't work. Simple as that. Not to mention it's patently unfair to those that do work. No society can be forever funded by the haves. Everyone needs to chip in.

This is not the usa, my friend

If I don't want to work, I don't have to work and still get paid, I will be paid less of course but I will still get paid

Unemployement protection is a different system, that only comes into play when you lose your job. If you never had a job we have another system, that gives you a house and money

Thankfully we're not like that. Basically what you are referring to is the beginning of the end of society. If your country didn't have people that worked and paid for people like you, your entire world would fall apart.

I won't ever support a system like that.

And it also doesn't change the fact that you could find work, you just choose not to.

like me?

you don't even know me. People need some kind of work, otherwise they get bored, besides when you work here , you do earn more

People don't need to steal here, so there's less crime, do you realize how much less that costs the government for cops?

they can also study while not working , so anyone can be an engineer or doctor here. You think when people are given a chance they don't have any ambition?

you got a lot to learn my friend

Relax, all I meant by that is people that are also receiving money for not working.

I never said people don't need work. I'm a big proponent of people working and paying for themselves.

Do you realize how much such a system costs tax payers?

Anybody can be an engineer and a doctor if they go to school for it. In fact, I think it's much more admirable to work while you go to school than not. I think people will obviously choose the easier route when given the chance.

Not from you, or your country. At least not on this matter. I take pride in the fact that I've never needed the government to support me. I also know that if I do at any point need help, I'll be able to get it. People should have to work. The only time they should get money from the government is if they're fallen on hard times. I simply don't believe people are entitled to money just because they live.

#40 Posted by airshocker (29405 posts) -

@airshocker said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

@osirisx3 said:

@airshocker said:

@osirisx3 said:

people who scream about how bad the new order will be make me lol. IS what we have now really that good?

Better than a dictatorship. Better than living in forced poverty aka communism.

There has never been a communist country

Yes, there has. They've all fallen.

The problem with communism is it's always corrupt and it inevitably turns into totalitarianism.

Some would say even socialism will eventually turn into communism.

So yeah, you can take your insane ideas somewhere else.

I never said anything about communism

communism is where everybody has the same

and the leaders have a lot more

Where does it say your username ANYWHERE in that post chain? No where. I wasn't talking to you.

This is still my thread

and this was about what i have said?

learn to pay attention...


I think you're the one that needs to pay attention. Just because this is your thread doesn't mean my responses to Osiris were directed at you. He can answer for himself. He doesn't need your help.

#41 Posted by Aljosa23 (24851 posts) -

Once automation gets good enough no one will have to work and we'll all just be on a guaranteed income. Won't happen anytime soon.

#42 Edited by evildead6789 (7637 posts) -

@airshocker said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

If people have the choice not to work, they won't. So I really don't think this NWO would work.

they have a choice not to work where i live

people are still working...

Not true. Unemployment protection isn't the same thing as being paid not to work. If people have that choice, they won't work. Simple as that. Not to mention it's patently unfair to those that do work. No society can be forever funded by the haves. Everyone needs to chip in.

This is not the usa, my friend

If I don't want to work, I don't have to work and still get paid, I will be paid less of course but I will still get paid

Unemployement protection is a different system, that only comes into play when you lose your job. If you never had a job we have another system, that gives you a house and money

Thankfully we're not like that. Basically what you are referring to is the beginning of the end of society. If your country didn't have people that worked and paid for people like you, your entire world would fall apart.

I won't ever support a system like that.

And it also doesn't change the fact that you could find work, you just choose not to.

like me?

you don't even know me. People need some kind of work, otherwise they get bored, besides when you work here , you do earn more

People don't need to steal here, so there's less crime, do you realize how much less that costs the government for cops?

they can also study while not working , so anyone can be an engineer or doctor here. You think when people are given a chance they don't have any ambition?

you got a lot to learn my friend

Relax, all I meant by that is people that are also receiving money for not working.

I never said people don't need work. I'm a big proponent of people working and paying for themselves.

Do you realize how much such a system costs tax payers?

Anybody can be an engineer and a doctor if they go to school for it. In fact, I think it's much more admirable to work while you go to school than not. I think people will obviously choose the easier route when given the chance.

Not from you, or your country. At least not on this matter. I take pride in the fact that I've never needed the government to support me. I also know that if I do at any point need help, I'll be able to get it. People should have to work. The only time they should get money from the government is if they're fallen on hard times. I simply don't believe people are entitled to money just because they live.

everyone needs support. You didn't came on this planet as fully functional cop, did you

some people don't have good parents or have no parents, or get mixed in bad environments. A self made man doesn't exist

As for the easy route, a lot of people choose it, but not for long. It get's boring, and the money you get here doesn't make you exactly successfull, I will feed you families pay your internet and beer.

Don't expect to buy a bmw with that money though.

#43 Posted by pyro1245 (772 posts) -

Well we are at a point where innovation comes from a very few individuals. It usually only takes a handful of people to make a discovery which launches science into a new era. If everyone were to just do whatever they want do you think we'd have more or less people working toward the betterment of the human race?

There is some merit to the idea that the people who are interested in studying science and making advances in technology will keep working on it; others would spend their entire lives in other ways and society would still advance, hell maybe even quicker than it does now because there are no funding issues (we're talking star trek future style where money isn't a thing and everyone has enough electricity and other resources to do whatever they want).

Of course we'd need to find a way to automate all of the jobs no one wants to do. And there's the pesky problem of corruption and people talking advantage of the system at the expense of others.

While I like the idea I think we're way far off from it. I blame the opponents to nuclear power as an incredible energy density would be required for this to work; also all those who would seek to do harm to others. So just get rid of all the 'bad' people and come up with a way to provide unlimited power and I'd say we're one step closer.

#44 Posted by airshocker (29405 posts) -

@airshocker said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

If people have the choice not to work, they won't. So I really don't think this NWO would work.

they have a choice not to work where i live

people are still working...

Not true. Unemployment protection isn't the same thing as being paid not to work. If people have that choice, they won't work. Simple as that. Not to mention it's patently unfair to those that do work. No society can be forever funded by the haves. Everyone needs to chip in.

This is not the usa, my friend

If I don't want to work, I don't have to work and still get paid, I will be paid less of course but I will still get paid

Unemployement protection is a different system, that only comes into play when you lose your job. If you never had a job we have another system, that gives you a house and money

Thankfully we're not like that. Basically what you are referring to is the beginning of the end of society. If your country didn't have people that worked and paid for people like you, your entire world would fall apart.

I won't ever support a system like that.

And it also doesn't change the fact that you could find work, you just choose not to.

like me?

you don't even know me. People need some kind of work, otherwise they get bored, besides when you work here , you do earn more

People don't need to steal here, so there's less crime, do you realize how much less that costs the government for cops?

they can also study while not working , so anyone can be an engineer or doctor here. You think when people are given a chance they don't have any ambition?

you got a lot to learn my friend

Relax, all I meant by that is people that are also receiving money for not working.

I never said people don't need work. I'm a big proponent of people working and paying for themselves.

Do you realize how much such a system costs tax payers?

Anybody can be an engineer and a doctor if they go to school for it. In fact, I think it's much more admirable to work while you go to school than not. I think people will obviously choose the easier route when given the chance.

Not from you, or your country. At least not on this matter. I take pride in the fact that I've never needed the government to support me. I also know that if I do at any point need help, I'll be able to get it. People should have to work. The only time they should get money from the government is if they're fallen on hard times. I simply don't believe people are entitled to money just because they live.

everyone needs support. You didn't came on this planet as fully functional cop, did you

some people don't have good parents or have no parents, or get mixed in bad environments. A self made man doesn't exist

As for the easy route, a lot of people choose it, but not for long. It get's boring, and the money you get here doesn't make you exactly successfull, I will feed you families pay your internet and beer.

Don't expect to buy a bmw with that money though.

Most people get support. I was supported by my family until I was 18. Hell, Mom and Dad even help me out now every once and awhile.

And for people there are multiple avenues that can go down for help: Charities and the government(in extreme cases). Just because you are going through hard times, though, doesn't mean you deserve money.

For how long people use it is debatable but it's mostly irrelevant. I remember hearing about Denmark cutting back benefits and lo' and behold, it spurred people to get employment.

#45 Edited by evildead6789 (7637 posts) -

@airshocker said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

If people have the choice not to work, they won't. So I really don't think this NWO would work.

they have a choice not to work where i live

people are still working...

Not true. Unemployment protection isn't the same thing as being paid not to work. If people have that choice, they won't work. Simple as that. Not to mention it's patently unfair to those that do work. No society can be forever funded by the haves. Everyone needs to chip in.

This is not the usa, my friend

If I don't want to work, I don't have to work and still get paid, I will be paid less of course but I will still get paid

Unemployement protection is a different system, that only comes into play when you lose your job. If you never had a job we have another system, that gives you a house and money

Thankfully we're not like that. Basically what you are referring to is the beginning of the end of society. If your country didn't have people that worked and paid for people like you, your entire world would fall apart.

I won't ever support a system like that.

And it also doesn't change the fact that you could find work, you just choose not to.

like me?

you don't even know me. People need some kind of work, otherwise they get bored, besides when you work here , you do earn more

People don't need to steal here, so there's less crime, do you realize how much less that costs the government for cops?

they can also study while not working , so anyone can be an engineer or doctor here. You think when people are given a chance they don't have any ambition?

you got a lot to learn my friend

Relax, all I meant by that is people that are also receiving money for not working.

I never said people don't need work. I'm a big proponent of people working and paying for themselves.

Do you realize how much such a system costs tax payers?

Anybody can be an engineer and a doctor if they go to school for it. In fact, I think it's much more admirable to work while you go to school than not. I think people will obviously choose the easier route when given the chance.

Not from you, or your country. At least not on this matter. I take pride in the fact that I've never needed the government to support me. I also know that if I do at any point need help, I'll be able to get it. People should have to work. The only time they should get money from the government is if they're fallen on hard times. I simply don't believe people are entitled to money just because they live.

everyone needs support. You didn't came on this planet as fully functional cop, did you

some people don't have good parents or have no parents, or get mixed in bad environments. A self made man doesn't exist

As for the easy route, a lot of people choose it, but not for long. It get's boring, and the money you get here doesn't make you exactly successfull, I will feed you families pay your internet and beer.

Don't expect to buy a bmw with that money though.

Most people get support. I was supported by my family until I was 18. Hell, Mom and Dad even help me out now every once and awhile.

And for people there are multiple avenues that can go down for help: Charities and the government(in extreme cases). Just because you are going through hard times, though, doesn't mean you deserve money.

For how long people use it is debatable but it's mostly irrelevant. I remember hearing about Denmark cutting back benefits and lo' and behold, it spurred people to get employment.

your parents gave you money food and housing, when you don't have that, it's provided here

if they don't do that in your country, sad for the unlucky ones there then.

Denmark isn't belgium. When they need to cut back, they need to get the money from somewhere. Something must have gone wrong in their system, or they were giving too much money in the first place

#46 Edited by evildead6789 (7637 posts) -

@jasean79 said:

@evildead6789 said:

@jasean79 said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

If people have the choice not to work, they won't. So I really don't think this NWO would work.

they have a choice not to work where i live

people are still working...

Not true. Unemployment protection isn't the same thing as being paid not to work. If people have that choice, they won't work. Simple as that. Not to mention it's patently unfair to those that do work. No society can be forever funded by the haves. Everyone needs to chip in.

This is not the usa, my friend

If I don't want to work, I don't have to work and still get paid, I will be paid less of course but I will still get paid

Unemployement protection is a different system, that only comes into play when you lose your job. If you never had a job we have another system, that gives you a house and money

Yes, but someone is paying for you to have that house and money. It's not like the money grows on trees or the government is giving it to you at no cost. Someone's picking up the tab.

of course someone's picking up the tab

what else are taxes for

armies?

So it's okay that taxpayers fund your laziness...great mentality.

That i'm lazy is one thing

but no one is paying for me

#47 Edited by airshocker (29405 posts) -

@jasean79 said:

@evildead6789 said:

@jasean79 said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

If people have the choice not to work, they won't. So I really don't think this NWO would work.

they have a choice not to work where i live

people are still working...

Not true. Unemployment protection isn't the same thing as being paid not to work. If people have that choice, they won't work. Simple as that. Not to mention it's patently unfair to those that do work. No society can be forever funded by the haves. Everyone needs to chip in.

This is not the usa, my friend

If I don't want to work, I don't have to work and still get paid, I will be paid less of course but I will still get paid

Unemployement protection is a different system, that only comes into play when you lose your job. If you never had a job we have another system, that gives you a house and money

Yes, but someone is paying for you to have that house and money. It's not like the money grows on trees or the government is giving it to you at no cost. Someone's picking up the tab.

of course someone's picking up the tab

what else are taxes for

armies?

So it's okay that taxpayers fund your laziness...great mentality.

That i'm lazy is one thing

but no one is paying for me

Taxpayers are paying for you, bro.

#48 Edited by evildead6789 (7637 posts) -

@evildead6789 said:

@jasean79 said:

@evildead6789 said:

@jasean79 said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

@evildead6789 said:

@airshocker said:

If people have the choice not to work, they won't. So I really don't think this NWO would work.

they have a choice not to work where i live

people are still working...

Not true. Unemployment protection isn't the same thing as being paid not to work. If people have that choice, they won't work. Simple as that. Not to mention it's patently unfair to those that do work. No society can be forever funded by the haves. Everyone needs to chip in.

This is not the usa, my friend

If I don't want to work, I don't have to work and still get paid, I will be paid less of course but I will still get paid

Unemployement protection is a different system, that only comes into play when you lose your job. If you never had a job we have another system, that gives you a house and money

Yes, but someone is paying for you to have that house and money. It's not like the money grows on trees or the government is giving it to you at no cost. Someone's picking up the tab.

of course someone's picking up the tab

what else are taxes for

armies?

So it's okay that taxpayers fund your laziness...great mentality.

That i'm lazy is one thing

but no one is paying for me

Taxpayers are paying for you, bro.

Why would taxpayers paying for me, you don't even know me lol

#49 Posted by MakeMeaSammitch (3817 posts) -

I think you'd have to get rid of the middle east first.

#50 Edited by lamprey263 (23550 posts) -

Hmm, a future where nobody works and poverty is eliminated. Sounds like a future where we create robots to be our slaves only for them to eventually become self aware and... well, it might not be a perfect future after that.