House Republicans overwhelmingly vote against Hurricane Sandy relief

gotta love how once people were certain it would pass ( don't want to be accused of your 'no' vote actually causing it to fail ) a ---ton of house republicans could then vote against to go around saying "see, i'm taking a hard line on gov't spending" to their constituents....

i wonder what stance east cost republicnas will take next time some tornadoes obiterate the midwest....

let's example what happened during Hurricane Katrina. nocoolnamejim

it wasn't long ago that people like you were complaining about the way Bush handled Katrina, now it's suddenly the gold standard for disaster relief.

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]let's example what happened during Hurricane Katrina. Storm_Marine

it wasn't long ago that people like you were complaining about the way Bush handled Katrina, now it's suddenly the gold standard for disaster relief.

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]let's example what happened during Hurricane Katrina. Storm_Marine

it wasn't long ago that people like you were complaining about the way Bush handled Katrina, now it's suddenly the gold standard for disaster relief.

Because giving federal money directly to victims is what people were complaining about... Right. I mean honestly do you even try when you insult Democrats?

On topic. HURRICANES IN BLUE STATES, LIKE EVOLUTION AND BIG BANG THEORY, ARE LIES STRAIGHT FROM THE PIT OF HELL!

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[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]let's example what happened during Hurricane Katrina. C2N2

it wasn't long ago that people like you were complaining about the way Bush handled Katrina, now it's suddenly the gold standard for disaster relief.

Right. I mean honestly do you even try when you insult Democrats?

On topic. HURRICANES IN BLUE STATES, LIKE EVOLUTION AND BIG BANG THEORY, ARE LIES STRAIGHT FROM THE PIT OF HELL!

I'm looking at your second line and I think I could ask you a question similar to the one in your first line...

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[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]let's example what happened during Hurricane Katrina. Abbeten

it wasn't long ago that people like you were complaining about the way Bush handled Katrina, now it's suddenly the gold standard for disaster relief.

[QUOTE="C2N2"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

it wasn't long ago that people like you were complaining about the way Bush handled Katrina, now it's suddenly the gold standard for disaster relief.

Storm_Marine

Right. I mean honestly do you even try when you insult Democrats?

On topic. HURRICANES IN BLUE STATES, LIKE EVOLUTION AND BIG BANG THEORY, ARE LIES STRAIGHT FROM THE PIT OF HELL!

I'm looking at your second line and I think I could ask you a question similar to the one in your first line...

Well let us compare the insults.

You accuse him of being a hypocrite, by saying that people such as himself complained about Bush during Katrina. When in fact no one complained about the giving of money to victims and instead complained about the way in which Bush and FEMA handled the other aspects of disaster relief, something entirely irrelavent to this topic; yet something you invent, put into the mouth of OP, and then accuse him of being a hypocrite for.

While I simply make fun of Republicans for being idiots. What possible reason could there be for denying victims relief other than partisan idiocy? There is no reason. There is literally no reason at all. And to cite that idiocy, I have created a play on words of one of the esteemed members of the Republican Party in relation to this topic.

TL;DR: Republicans in this instance (as in many) are idiots.

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]let's example what happened during Hurricane Katrina. Storm_Marine

it wasn't long ago that people like you were complaining about the way Bush handled Katrina, now it's suddenly the gold standard for disaster relief.

I can't believe people are trying to rationalize this behavior.. Bush, FEMA, and his adminstration were being criticized because of their incompetence.. Not that they actually sent aid.. There is no reason why any one should support this horse sh!t regardless of party.. If something like this happens in any state, what ever color it is, they require aid..

[QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

it wasn't long ago that people like you were complaining about the way Bush handled Katrina, now it's suddenly the gold standard for disaster relief.

nocoolnamejim

you act as if the 112th US congress was around in 05, control of the congress and party platforms have changed several times since then...

anyway I doubt you've actually examined the bill and can give an actual opinion. You're probably just assuming because it's got "Aid" in the name it's good.

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="Abbeten"] heh that's not at all what is happening hereStorm_Marine

you act as if the 112th US congress was around in 05, control of the congress and party platforms have changed several times since then...

anyway I doubt you've actually examined the bill and can give an actual opinion. You're probably just assuming because it's got "Aid" in the name it's good.

.......... 60 some republicans refused to vote for the 9 billion dollar bill which was a FULL two paragraphs long that simply raised the flood insurance budget.. There was no pork in it.. Explain us that.

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[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"] Nope. The actual response from FEMA and the delay of Bush declaring it a disaster, going on vacation, etc. and how unprepared our government was were things that were criticized. The promptness and the bipartisan unanimity on voting for funding of relief efforts? Those were praiseworthy. If you seriously see nothing wrong with 179 Republicans voting against hurricane relief efforts for blue states after months of delay when there was no similar problems getting relief for RED states voted on and passed overwhelmingly sSubZerOo

you act as if the 112th US congress was around in 05, control of the congress and party platforms have changed several times since then...

anyway I doubt you've actually examined the bill and can give an actual opinion. You're probably just assuming because it's got "Aid" in the name it's good.

Explain us that.

Republicans hate northeastern liberals blah blah blah

Whatever happened to insurance? LJS9502_basic

We need a bill that forces all property owners to buy storm insurance.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Whatever happened to insurance? Storm_Marine

We need a bill that forces all property owners to buy insurance.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

you act as if the 112th US congress was around in 05, control of the congress and party platforms have changed several times since then...

anyway I doubt you've actually examined the bill and can give an actual opinion. You're probably just assuming because it's got "Aid" in the name it's good.

Storm_Marine

Explain us that.

Republicans hate northeastern liberals blah blah blah

I sure hope its not something that petty or stupid.

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="Abbeten"] heh that's not at all what is happening hereStorm_Marine

you act as if the 112th US congress was around in 05, control of the congress and party platforms have changed several times since then...

anyway I doubt you've actually examined the bill and can give an actual opinion. You're probably just assuming because it's got "Aid" in the name it's good.

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Whatever happened to insurance? sSubZerOo

We need a bill that forces all property owners to buy insurance.

that's what bailouts are for silly mister.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Whatever happened to insurance? Storm_Marine

We need a bill that forces all property owners to buy storm insurance.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

We need a bill that forces all property owners to buy insurance.

Storm_Marine

that's what bailouts are for silly mister.

:| Is this some form of schizofrenia you have? Your against direct diseaster relief.. But your for bailouts.. Supporting the BUSINESSES over the people in time consuming reorganization while people are suffering..

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Whatever happened to insurance? Storm_Marine

We need a bill that forces all property owners to buy storm insurance.

Insurance only works for individual emergencies

Not large scale disasters that affects millions of their customers at once.

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Whatever happened to insurance? nocoolnamejim

We need a bill that forces all property owners to buy storm insurance.

i'm sure it would fit in somewhere with the commerce clause.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] I'd like to know where your guy's magic insurance companies are that don't go bankrupt when millions of their customers all of a sudden need immense coverage... You guys seem not to be able to grasp what a major disaster means.. The gulf region is STILL recovering from Katrina.. sSubZerOo

that's what bailouts are for silly mister.

Your against direct diseaster relief..

says who?

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

We need a bill that forces all property owners to buy storm insurance.

Storm_Marine

i'm sure it would fit in somewhere with the commerce clause.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

that's what bailouts are for silly mister.

Storm_Marine

Your against direct diseaster relief..

says who?

So you agree with Cool that what is happening in house is ridiculous and uncalled for?

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[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"] But...I thought mandates were unconstitutional?nocoolnamejim

i'm sure it would fit in somewhere with the commerce clause.

I think that would fall under the "preexisting condition" category.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Whatever happened to insurance? Blue-Sky

We need a bill that forces all property owners to buy storm insurance.

Insurance only works for individual emergencies

Not large scale disasters that affects millions of their customers at once.

I would like to know when the United States changed from "We the People" to "fvck ya'll".

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Your against direct diseaster relief..

sSubZerOo

says who?

So you agree with Cool that what is happening in house is ridiculous and uncalled for?

i know little of relief bills and congress politics, but i'm sure it's all a bit more complicated than "We don't want to help blue states"

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

i'm sure it would fit in somewhere with the commerce clause.

Storm_Marine

fat people get sick more than people that take care of themselves. your point?

This thread is has gone conspiracy theory. DaBrainz

i'm just winging it

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[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"] You do realize that the number of times the Southeast, filled almost exclusively with red states, are going to get hit by natural disasters is going to be a lot more than the rest of the country? nocoolnamejim

fat people get sick more than people that take care of themselves. your point?

the edited version is better

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

says who?

Storm_Marine

So you agree with Cool that what is happening in house is ridiculous and uncalled for?

i know little of relief bills and congress politics, but i'm sure it's all a bit more complicated than "We don't want to help blue states"

I just pointed out that 50+ republicans actually voted against the small 9 billion dollar relief bill before it.. It was two paragraphs long and accounted simply to increase the flood relief budget by 9 billion for the diseaster.. There was no pork in it.

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

So you agree with Cool that what is happening in house is ridiculous and uncalled for?

sSubZerOo

i know little of relief bills and congress politics, but i'm sure it's all a bit more complicated than "We don't want to help blue states"

I just pointed out that 50+ republicans actually voted against the small 9 billion dollar relief bill before it.. It was two paragraphs long and accounted simply to increase the flood relief budget by 9 billion for the diseaster.. There was no pork in it.

when it's going to pass anyway, sometimes you want to change your vote in order to pretend to your constituents that you're actually standing for something.

shallow but there you go

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

i know little of relief bills and congress politics, but i'm sure it's all a bit more complicated than "We don't want to help blue states"

Storm_Marine

I just pointed out that 50+ republicans actually voted against the small 9 billion dollar relief bill before it.. It was two paragraphs long and accounted simply to increase the flood relief budget by 9 billion for the diseaster.. There was no pork in it.

when it's going to pass anyway, sometimes you want to change your vote in order to pretend to your constituents that you're actually standing for something.

shallow but there you go

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Whatever happened to insurance? Storm_Marine

We need a bill that forces all property owners to buy storm insurance.

Most property owners in NY and NJ *do* have storm and wind insurance. Most do not have flooding insurance since flooding is rather rare in anything outside of the coast.

Most insurance companies are latching on to the excuse that it was flooding that caused the damage and not, y'know, a hurricane or a tropical storm.

And the coastal towns that are required to have flood insurance are being told that their 1 story house is actually one giant basement and can only provide limited coverage for "basements."

So, yes insurance companies should most definitely be responsible for reimbursing most of their customers. Many, many, many are being denied over frivolous technical reasons.

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

I just pointed out that 50+ republicans actually voted against the small 9 billion dollar relief bill before it.. It was two paragraphs long and accounted simply to increase the flood relief budget by 9 billion for the diseaster.. There was no pork in it.

nocoolnamejim

when it's going to pass anyway, sometimes you want to change your vote in order to pretend to your constituents that you're actually standing for something.

shallow but there you go

nobody got hurt, who cares? you're just looking for an excuse to smear Republicans as unpatriotic/evil. as per usual with your threads. I expect this kind of stuff from Blue-sky but not a mod.

you can complain about this being political scheming, and you'd be justified in doing so. but just don't make this into something that it's not.

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

when it's going to pass anyway, sometimes you want to change your vote in order to pretend to your constituents that you're actually standing for something.

shallow but there you go

Storm_Marine

nobody got hurt, who cares? you're just looking for an excuse to smear Republicans as unpatriotic/evil. as per usual with your threads. I expect this kind of stuff from Blue-sky but not a mod.

anyway blue = only serious thing i've said and i stand by it

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

when it's going to pass anyway, sometimes you want to change your vote in order to pretend to your constituents that you're actually standing for something.

shallow but there you go

Storm_Marine

nobody got hurt, who cares? you're just looking for an excuse to smear Republicans as unpatriotic/evil. as per usual with your threads. I expect this kind of stuff from Blue-sky but not a mod.

*Post link to current event.*

*Summarize event.*

*Post link to past event.*

*Summarize event.*

*Ask why they are handled different given the politics of both regions?*

SMEAR CAMPAIGN LIBERAL AGENDA BRAINWASHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Whatever happened to insurance? Blue-Sky

We need a bill that forces all property owners to buy storm insurance.

Insurance only works for individual emergencies

Not large scale disasters that affects millions of their customers at once.

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

when it's going to pass anyway, sometimes you want to change your vote in order to pretend to your constituents that you're actually standing for something.

shallow but there you go

Storm_Marine

nobody got hurt, who cares? you're just looking for an excuse to smear Republicans as unpatriotic/evil. as per usual with your threads.

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"] I think this is the sixth different explanation you've tried to justify this so far in your last dozen posts. Winging it is right. C2N2

nobody got hurt, who cares? you're just looking for an excuse to smear Republicans as unpatriotic/evil. as per usual with your threads. I expect this kind of stuff from Blue-sky but not a mod.

*Post link to current event.*

*Summarize event.*

*Post link to past event.*

*Summarize event.*

*Ask why they are handled different given the politics of both regions?*

different republicans, different platforms, there are alot of newcomers in congress that don't want to be seen voting for any new major spending. you all know this, it's just easier for you guys to make this a blue state red state thing

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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

We need a bill that forces all property owners to buy storm insurance.

LJS9502_basic

Insurance only works for individual emergencies

Not large scale disasters that affects millions of their customers at once.

LOL Hurricane insurance... You mean "Pay us a steep premium for being at risk and then have like a 10% deductible on your claim insurance." Where you pay the premium year round, every year despite not having a hurricane then in a event of a hurricane your deductible is 10% the value of your home, so if your basement is flooded, and you are in a $500,000 house, the first $50,000 in damage is on you bud.