Hey OT, wanna see how stupid the Australian Govt. is?

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#1 shani_boy101
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Stephen Conroy, minister for broadband and communication in Australia and internet supernazi, wants to put in place a mandatory internet filter that will block child pornography, refused clazsification content and anything the govt. doesn't like, since the blacklist isn't even public. It's also meant to slow down our already horrid internet speeds to a crawl.

It sound bad enough as it is, but then this happens:

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/173707,net-filter-circumvention-its-completely-legal.aspx

The minister Stephen Conroy admits that CIRCUMVENTING THE FILTER IS EASY AND COMPLETELY LEGAL. So now not only do we get our internet slowed, but the damn thing won't even work, wasting millions of tax dollars in the process and making the Stephen Conroy (and the whole govt.) look like a complete joke.

When i heard this i was completely lost for words, i thought governments were run by well-educated members of society, not a bunch of mindless baffoons. Things like these make me ashamed to be an Australian.

EDIT: found some more info.

http://www.itwire.com/it-policy-news/government-tech-policy/38774-sen-conroy-agrees-circumvention-makes-filter-pointless?start=1

Turns out he knew about it since June 2009 and knows that it's pointless yet 6 months later he announces that it will go ahead and has been on a media tour takling about how "100% accurate" and foolproof it is.

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#2 Tobio19
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and people still wonder why i hate australia yes i live here aswell
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#3 applesxc47
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I'm Aussie and I hate the idea of this.

But since when is this new?

I only dislike the fact that they're trying to block stuff without actually telling anyone what it is, so they can pretty much block anything.

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#4 weezyfb
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that is a waste of time and taxpayer money
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#5 shani_boy101
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I'm Aussie and I hate the idea of this.

But since when is this new?

I only dislike the fact that they're trying to block stuff without actually telling anyone what it is, so they can pretty much block anything.

applesxc47
That not the worst thing, the whole thing can be completely circumented LEGALLY. Conroy said it himself. it's completely pointless.
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#6 DigitalExile
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Isn't there an independant group to monitor/update the list as need be? Meaning you're not going to see YouTube or Facebook going down.

Also, as far as he knows it doesn't slow down the internet.

In any case, he's been told a billion times - and most people know this - that there are very few websites that host anything illegal, that it's all P2P stuff and that the filter is pointless. Parents shouldn't be so stupid if they're worried their 10 year old son is going to type in something and get pornography. If your kid somehow stumbles upon child pornography it's not by accident.

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Sigh, sucks to be us. We've got the environment, that's it, nothing else.

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#8 Solid_Tango
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Whats the deal with australias internet and videogames law? gezzz let ppl do what they want
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Once your whaling gang gets into trouble you guys will go downhill........but i still love abbywinters......
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#10 Vesica_Prime
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Shame we're the ones who have to deal with his stupidity.

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#11 DigitalExile
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but i still love abbywinters......X360PS3AMD05
Lmfao.

*high - fives*

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#12 freek666
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but i still love abbywinters......X360PS3AMD05

Every time a thread about Australia is brought one guy will always drop her name :P

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Some folks are born made to wave the flag,
Ooo, they're red, white and blue...

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#14 MrsSolidSnake
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I guess I'm too young of an Australian too understand it all :|

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Love your sig, TC. Iron Man 2's gonna be so awesome.

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#16 Mochyc
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Some folks are born made to wave the flag,
Ooo, they're red, white and blue...

SupaKoopaTroopa

http://cml.austincollege.edu/00/French/French_Flag.gif

You mean blue, white and red :P.

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#17 Atheists_Pwn
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use an encrypted proxy. they are hoping people arent smart enough to get around the government filters, but anyone can.
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This guy should move to the US. He'd make the perfect democrat! :P

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This guy should move to the US. He'd make the perfect democrat! :P

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Thread derailed in 3...2...1...
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#20 alextherussian
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Some folks are born made to wave the flag,
Ooo, they're red, white and blue...

SupaKoopaTroopa

thats right, wave the red, white and blue....

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For some reason I came in here looking for something to do with kangaroo's.

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#22 Danm_999
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Some folks are born made to wave the flag,
Ooo, they're red, white and blue...

SupaKoopaTroopa

Err, you are quoting Fortunate Son ironically aren't you?

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#23 wstfld
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Aren't you guys all descended from prisoners? What the hell is wrong with some free porn? Its what the internet was built on.
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#24 Danm_999
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Aren't you guys all descended from prisoners? wstfld
No :P
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#25 Scuttlest
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Why haven't Australians revolted yet?

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#27 shani_boy101
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Aren't you guys all descended from prisoners? wstfld
Definitely not.

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They've just popped an extra $2-3 on the price of cigarettes over here as well. I am not a happy pig…….

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Why doesn't the Australian people try to get this guy fired?:?

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This guy should move to the US. He'd make the perfect democrat! :P

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So true, my friend. :P

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#31 needled24-7
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i didn't read all that, but the guy just looks like a dick.

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#32 gamedude2020
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thats right, wave the red, white and blue....

alextherussian

No, it's actually the red, white, blue and red...

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#33 rapt0rjesuz
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Its actually red, white and blue with stars

Am I doin it right?

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#34 Filipino_Rambo
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I hate this man and i hate the Government trying to baby us all the time.

The 18+ debate is a joke and so is this. It is useless and a waste of money but this douche still wants to filter our internet.

NO CLEAN FEED!

Electronic Frontiers Australia

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Couldn't of said it better myself.

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#35 albatrossdrums
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[QUOTE="Tobio19"]and people still wonder why i hate australia yes i live here aswell

Having a government infested with morons is not unique, I would argue that it's the one thing that most all of us share, no matter where you are from. There is something about politics that seems to bring out the worst in people, and the worst people. It's depressing when you think about it - in general, the problem is the citizens because it seems the best, brightest and most ethical of us decide not to go in to politics. : )
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[QUOTE="SupaKoopaTroopa"]

Some folks are born made to wave the flag,
Ooo, they're red, white and blue...

Mochyc

http://cml.austincollege.edu/00/French/French_Flag.gif

You mean blue, white and red :P.

yes

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[QUOTE="albatrossdrums"][QUOTE="Tobio19"]and people still wonder why i hate australia yes i live here aswell

Having a government infested with morons is not unique, I would argue that it's the one thing that most all of us share, no matter where you are from. There is something about politics that seems to bring out the worst in people, and the worst people. It's depressing when you think about it - in general, the problem is the citizens because it seems the best, brightest and most ethical of us decide not to go in to politics. : )

Seriously it's people like Stephen Conroy that make me want to make my own political party. I'd call it "Step Aside"
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#38 Danm_999
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Why doesn't the Australian people try to get this guy fired?:?

topsemag55
Well there is an election this year. Suffice it to say, internet affairs are not exactly election determining issues.
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#39 clayron
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Did anyone else find it funny that the TC referred to that guy as an "Internet Supernazi"? I am laughing hysterically at that and the image of the guy.
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[QUOTE="topsemag55"]

Why doesn't the Australian people try to get this guy fired?:?

Danm_999

Well there is an election this year. Suffice it to say, internet affairs are not exactly election determining issues.

Ironically the Government was elected partly due to a promise of a super fast broadband network...

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#41 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="topsemag55"]

Why doesn't the Australian people try to get this guy fired?:?

mattisgod01

Well there is an election this year. Suffice it to say, internet affairs are not exactly election determining issues.

Ironically the Government was elected partly due to a promise of a super fast broadband network...

One of many promises the Rudd government let slip.
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Sigh, sucks to be us. We've got the environment, that's it, nothing else.

stevoqwerty

and the ladies.....

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Every time I hear the words "Australia" and "internet" in the same sentence I become even more thankful that I am not living in Australia. Aside from the bs filter they're going to put up, Australia also considers animated porn to be child pornography (some guy got 20 years IIRC for having Simpson's porn on his PC) and, get this, considers porn with A-cup women to be child porn as well (meaning that if your GF/wife has anything less than a B-cup and sends you a naked photo of herself, you're now in posession of child porn according to the Australian government).

Anyway, the whole reason Conroy wants to put up the internet filter is for two reasons:

1) To win points in the election for being tough on pedophila
2) To gain control of the flow of information inside australia

Number 2 may seem far fetched until you learn that over half the sites on the blacklist are not related to porn at all but are rather political and religious sites. And one of those sites is wikileaks which only got banned after it released the blacklist.

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#45 Danm_999
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>Number 2 may seem far fetched until you learn that over half the sites on the blacklist are not related to porn at all but are rather political and religious sites. And one of those sites is wikileaks which only got banned after it released the blacklist.

gameguy6700

This is the truly disturbing part. Luckily the filter will be so ineffective even the government admits it won't work.

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Every time I hear the words "Australia" and "internet" in the same sentence I become even more thankful that I am not living in Australia. Aside from the bs filter they're going to put up, Australia also considers animated porn to be child pornography (some guy got 20 years IIRC for having Simpson's porn on his PC) and, get this, considers porn with A-cup women to be child porn as well (meaning that if your GF/wife has anything less than a B-cup and sends you a naked photo of herself, you're now in posession of child porn according to the Australian government).

Anyway, the whole reason Conroy wants to put up the internet filter is for two reasons:

1) To win points in the election for being tough on pedophila
2) To gain control of the flow of information inside australia

Number 2 may seem far fetched until you learn that over half the sites on the blacklist are not related to porn at all but are rather political and religious sites. And one of those sites is wikileaks which only got banned after it released the blacklist.

gameguy6700
Wait what!? Women with A-cups are considered children in porn in Australia? That's pretty messed up right there. I've never seen an Australian happy about their government, how the heck to do they keep getting elected. Is there only right wing parties there or something?
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#47 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

Every time I hear the words "Australia" and "internet" in the same sentence I become even more thankful that I am not living in Australia. Aside from the bs filter they're going to put up, Australia also considers animated porn to be child pornography (some guy got 20 years IIRC for having Simpson's porn on his PC) and, get this, considers porn with A-cup women to be child porn as well (meaning that if your GF/wife has anything less than a B-cup and sends you a naked photo of herself, you're now in posession of child porn according to the Australian government).

Anyway, the whole reason Conroy wants to put up the internet filter is for two reasons:

1) To win points in the election for being tough on pedophila
2) To gain control of the flow of information inside australia

Number 2 may seem far fetched until you learn that over half the sites on the blacklist are not related to porn at all but are rather political and religious sites. And one of those sites is wikileaks which only got banned after it released the blacklist.

Ace6301

Wait what!? Women with A-cups are considered children in porn in Australia? That's pretty messed up right there. I've never seen an Australian happy about their government, how the heck to do they keep getting elected. Is there only right wing parties there or something?

It's not actually true.