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#1 Posted by fnevaeva (548 posts) -

First, gamespot won't allow Hitlers name as a topic. Which is dumb.Anywho, does anyone else believe Hitler(or Germany) could have won WWII if they hadn't attack so many countrys at one time?

#2 Posted by Rattlesnake_8 (18414 posts) -
There are so many factors that came into play and so many what if scenario's.. short answer is yes.. however things didn't turn out differently, thankfully.
#3 Posted by fnevaeva (548 posts) -
I think it would've been nice. Personally, I think he had a good plan. And at least he was bringing Germany to prosperity unlike Obama has been doing. Also, at least he was trying to conquer the world. Now that's a sweet plan. Being neutral is too boring and there is no conquest aka France fail.
#4 Posted by rocinante_ (1666 posts) -

i don't know all the details, but i think that germany would've been close to winning if they had not undergone operation barbarossa, so that they could divert more resources to the western front. then again, russia would've likely attacked germany at some point anyway

another factor to take into consideration is america's development of the a-bomb. the us could've used the a-bomb on germany to make them sumbit like they did to japan even if germany had taken over europe. then again, i don't how close germany was to developing the a-bomb, so maybe they could've had their own to counter the us

another factor to take into consideration is the tenuos axis alliance. they weren't as coordinated as the allies, so even if germany had taken over europe i doubt they could keep their position stable

#5 Posted by lonewolf604 (8529 posts) -
If Hitler didn't betray Stalin, I think it we'd all be speaking Russian or German.
#6 Posted by CreasianDevaili (4179 posts) -
If hitler could see into the future, and the allied forces were to somehow NOT change how they react to the changes he made to his battleplan that failed?
#7 Posted by quadraleap (36516 posts) -
They had pretty uniforms and great technology but unfortunately their leader was mentally ill and took pleasure in needlessly killing innocents on a mass scale. The way the came back from ruins of WWI and the whole plight almost gives you a ounce of rooting for the 'underdog" but the rest of the story makes it disgusting.
#8 Posted by fnevaeva (548 posts) -
They had pretty uniforms and great technology but unfortunately their leader was mentally ill and took pleasure in needlessly killing innocents on a mass scale. The way the came back from ruins of WWI and the whole plight almost gives you a ounce of rooting for the 'underdog" but the rest of the story makes it disgusting. quadraleap
I'm purely talking about his conquest to rule the world and the war. Killing Jews wasn't the only reason Russia, US, Canada, Britain, and a few others started attacking Germany or I should say, the Axis.
#9 Posted by quadraleap (36516 posts) -
[QUOTE="quadraleap"]They had pretty uniforms and great technology but unfortunately their leader was mentally ill and took pleasure in needlessly killing innocents on a mass scale. The way the came back from ruins of WWI and the whole plight almost gives you a ounce of rooting for the 'underdog" but the rest of the story makes it disgusting. fnevaeva
I'm purely talking about his conquest to rule the world and the war. Killing Jews wasn't the only reason Russia, US, Canada, Britain, and a few others started attacking Germany or I should say, the Axis.

Not attacking Russia would have bought him some time....but I think eventually (without going into details) they would have lost.
#10 Posted by Ace6301 (21389 posts) -
I think in the end UK would have held on and eventually the Allies would have won. Germany really couldn't have invaded Britain unless they spent a few more years building up a suitable navy and upgrading their airfoce and they'd have to deal with the fact the US would eventually get a nuke since that aspect of the war would remain unchanged. Hitler was kind of credit to allies in the regard that he f*cked up his own war effort so much.
#11 Posted by SolidSnake35 (58157 posts) -
Was it WW1 or 2 when they turned around and bitch slapped France without warning?
#12 Posted by Jack-Burton (2303 posts) -
If they didn't have an Eastern campaign, and kept Stalin onside things may have been a lot different.
#13 Posted by jun_aka_pekto (16699 posts) -

With Hitler in charge? There's no way Germany would've won WW2. Now, if a junta of Germany's best generals were in charge? Perhaps.

There's good reason why the Allies chose not to assasinate Hitler He's better alive leading Germany to ruin than dead and being a martyr.

Damn Glitchspot again......

#14 Posted by lamprey263 (24468 posts) -
nope, I think eventually it will come down the Russians invading Berlin and Hitler committing suicide in a ditch covered in gasoline, on his honeymoon but I know people like to argue otherwise because it's just transparent they wish they could live in his racially cleansed society where all others are slave to the fascist superiority
#15 Posted by jesuschristmonk (3308 posts) -

I think if Germany didn't invade Russia at all they would've gone far (not sure how far the Nazi's really would've gone). Just from that, they had to worry about a huge super power from the East, and a few major powers from the West. 

If they had Russia as an ally, the allies probably would have been screwed.

#16 Posted by jun_aka_pekto (16699 posts) -

Was it WW1 or 2 when they turned around and bitch slapped France without warning?SolidSnake35

I thought it was the Franco-Prussian War of 1870.

#17 Posted by Justforvisit (5047 posts) -

I think it would've been nice. Personally, I think he had a good plan. And at least he was bringing Germany to prosperity unlike Obama has been doing. Also, at least he was trying to conquer the world. Now that's a sweet plan. Being neutral is too boring and there is no conquest aka France fail.fnevaeva

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Woooooooooooooooooooooooooow history class in america needs a serious redo if THAT's what the common consensus is. YES he brought the world the Autobahn, and YES, unemployee quotes were very low at that time, but if you want to give up everything you are, your freedom of speech, your opinion, your life you lived, your personal right and everything else for the oh so called "prosperity" and call THAT prosperity you might as well move to North Korea in recent days.

#18 Posted by wis3boi (31592 posts) -

They might have conquered Europe, but the american continent would be untouched

#19 Posted by redstorm72 (4593 posts) -

Probably not. The Soviet Union had always planned to break the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, but was waiting to build up its forces. So the Nazi's attacking first was probably to their benefit as the Russians were caught with their pants down. If the Soviets and Nazis never came into conflict though, then maybe Germany could have won. I doubt they could have taken the UK, but they could have easily used the forces that would have been deployed on the eastern front to fortify against any kind of allied invasion and help western Europe. I don't know how the U.S. nuclear program would have effected the war in this scenario, but I doubt they would have been willing to nuke half of Europe to drive the Nazi's back (the U.S. were reluctant to even join the European theater to begin with).

#20 Posted by jun_aka_pekto (16699 posts) -

Probably not. The Soviet Union had always planned to break the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, but was waiting to build up its forces. So the Nazi's attacking first was probably to their benefit as the Russians were caught with their pants down. If the Soviets and Nazis never came into conflict though, then maybe Germany could have won. I doubt they could have taken the UK, but they could have easily used the forces that would have been deployed on the eastern front to fortify against any kind of allied invasion and help western Europe. I don't know how the U.S. nuclear program would have effected the war in this scenario, but I doubt they would have been willing to nuke half of Europe to drive the Nazi's back (the U.S. were reluctant to even join the European theater to begin with).

redstorm72

The behavior of the major combatants were dictated by tit for tat. The Luftwaffe started bombing major cities which brought a similar response from the Allies (who in turn, turned that up a notch). The Waffen SS didn't like taking prisoners. The Allies often gave orders not to take any SS prisoner. Brutalities by Axis troops (especially in the Pacific and Eastern Front) sometimes sparked brutalities by Allied troops.....and so on.

Germany had an atomic bomb program of its own. If Hitler got his hands on an atomic bomb, he would've been crazy enough to use it. If one side used it, then that's the go-ahead signal for the other side to use it as well.

#21 Posted by Opi0us (189 posts) -

The only way Germany would have won would have been if they stuck to the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact and stayed allies with a neutral Russia.

If he had done that though Stalin would have smashed Hitler and Germany to pieces one the Western Europen war was over.