Gay marriage is constitutional 5-4

@sSubZerOo:

I can't read all that. Could you sum it up for me in less than 1000 words?

@richietickles: @sSubZerOo: Watch the quote chain, guys, otherwise I'll have to start deleting posts.

So an appeal to nature argument (which is a logical fallacy).

And appealing to a god of which there is no evidence of existing.

And an appeal to tradition as well. (And holy hell its false as well)

Maybe if you commit more logical fallacies maybe we will believe you.

Religion happened, Thankfully, we are moving further and further away from religion now, into secularism and enlightenment. The rise of internet has only sped up this process, as dogma can only truly survive in an echo chamber, which the very nature of the internet is the opposite of. As others have said before me, the internet is the place where religion comes to die.

And at least as far as the Judeo-Christian God is concerned, evidence suggest an evolution from pre-existing polytheistic religions.

Hell I would be fine with many of these religious people wearing god on their sleeves if they were CONSISTENT.... Jesus and the Bible speaks out numerous times about greed and the sin of materialism.. Yet where is the Christian outrage? In fact the party that wears god on their sleeves is the very same party that promotes the wealthy and basically demonizes the poor.. What in the hell?

Why are people penning essays in response to an obvious troll

Most Christians don't understand Christianity in either a historical or theological sense, it's simply family tradition.

Like, ask a Christian who J, E, and P are and watch their eyes roll back.

That's all stuff you believe and that's fine. You can accept the new age of whatever you want to call it, but it will be the end of you. The new age of no religion will destroy civilizations starting with yours first.

Have you played any Shin Megami Tensei games? I strictly recall Devil Survivor making reference to the polytheistic days of the early middle eastern religions. Before the worship of the other gods were outlawed, and eventually retconned.

A while back I showed this video to a friend, he seriously reconsidered his beliefs after that.

Because it is fun.

And gay anthem here we come!

Well, though I'm religious and opposed to gay marriage, all I can say is this: Congratulations on making all marriage equal, America.

I'm not fond of Japanese games so no, I haven't played it. May watch the video later, doing a few things at once ATM, lol.

@MakeMeaSammitch: Please explain how minorities aren't equal?

American Exceptionalism.

• LGBT people couldnt serve in the military without fear of being ratted out.
• Homosexuals couldnt marry.
• Even today, the police uses some profiling to unfairly target individuals.

Oh, it's back to every cop is a racist bigot who's trying to find any excuse to blow a minority away now are we? Where you get these bullet points from? Your Polysci professor?

You didn't read that huge report that was issued months ago?

If it was that big, no. Can't pay attention anymore

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11607315/Humans-have-shorter-attention-span-than-goldfish-thanks-to-smartphones.html

@Maroxad:

1. They can serve in the military

2. They can get married

3. Black people kill white people 25x more then whites kill blacks. But somehow that always seems to get over looked?

They're less likely to be called back after a job interview when competing against similar candidates.

People with "black names" are less likely to be hired.

If a black man and white man commit a crime, the black one is more likely to be convicted.

and if both are convicted, the black one is more likely to get a longer sentence.

Soft "red lining" still goes on.

This is just off the top of my head.

And Gamespot changed its logo, it's all rainbow-y now...I can already see the masses complaining about "gayspot" =P

DAT GS logo! Way to go!

Time to spruce up some gayness in this thread.

Way to take what I said out of proportion.

Every cop is not a racist bigot, and nowhere did I say that. However, that doesnt change the fact that it does happen.

1. Don't Ask Don't tell was a thing. It got repealed though, but many people were still discharged unfairly.
2. That is what this case was about, was it not? And it wasnt until today, homosexuals finally got to marry like everyone else.
3. The fact is we have academic articles on police racial profiling should be enough evidence that it happens. Seriously just google scholar it.

The first 2 were things that happened in the past. But still left damage done for today.

And killings dont justify racial profiling. The fact of the matter is, racial profiling by default means that people of all ethnicities are not treated equally.

I hope you're talking about social conservatives because I have no problem with gay love.

Also:

You duggers wouldn't know a fact if it smacked you in the face. Arguing with a dugger is like arguing with a creationist. They put their fingers in their ears and chant "evolution is a lie. There are not transitional fossils", despite the fact that there are thousands. blah blah blah blah blah. Too bad, dugger. It's right there in black and white. Not only will Obamacare lower the deficit, repealing it will increase the deficit, straight from the CBO.

ISIS is a Muslim problem. There are plenty of powerful Muslim countries in the region who can handle 20,000 ISIS fighters. Maybe next time you duggers will think twice about voting for idiots *Reagan and Bush Jr.) who created both ISIS and Al-Qaeda. Do I have to post the video of Reagan meeting with Al-Qaeda in the white house? Yea, I think I will!

Why? Because this is a score in favor of Americans who want the government to stay the **** out of their business? Because people of another sexual orientation are allowed to be happy?

This is what I am most looking forward to, as well. I'll be like 50 or whatever and my kids or grandkids will ask me what it was like because they're doing a paper for school, and I will tell them....and they will not be able to comprehend it, and it is perfect that they cannot.

I mean, I know racism exists and have witnessed it, but I can't comprehend/imagine the Jim Crow laws, separate areas for blacks, or any of that.

I agree there are greater issues, and tbh I think it is a little "rude" (not the right word, but whatever) given the recent tragedy that happened in and to the US.

Still, you need to take the small (and not so small) victories when you can get them. Most of existence is depressing, annoying, and worse; it is nice to see things like this, and we could use more of them.

Who knows, maybe in a few years, when Satan DOESN'T take over the world, conservatives will loosen up a bit and start acting progressive and logical instead of backwards-thinking and emotional.

This is the first time I've posted (or felt like posting) in years, or whenever the Great Tragic Forum Website Overhaul of 20__ was.

GS, great logo.

I agree with what you say. And while it is not a big victory but the spoils of war are there nonetheless.

• With gay marriage out of the way, politicians can focus on other, more important matters. This issue will no longer be good for vote farming.
• Gay marriage is profitable. Case in point, see how NYC profited from legalizing gay marriage.
• Marriage should improve stability between couples. Which will in turn, be good for general health.
• Marriage may encourage more adoptions. Less money needs to be invested in orphanages.

Hopefully we will deal with the bigger issues now.

Pretty sure he is.

I dont think most people here have any issues with your typical conservative. Just the social conservative. And I dislike them for the same reason I dislike SJWs.

That is utter BS.

Due to affirmative action Black people must be hired even if they don't meet the qualifications.
Do you deny that blacks commit more crimes then Whites or they all just wrongly accused?

Never accountable always putting the blame on someone else.

Progress, bitches! Yeah!

Try this one on for size: I could never identify with being a Liberal nor am I a Democrat but the ruling makes perfect sense provided one remains objective. Two consenting adults should never have to beg the government for recognition. The government is supposed to be impartial when it comes to rights. To me, this is a hollow victory because the government will still try and strip and deny people of rights without just cause. Our politicians take an oath to uphold the Constitution. They are not supposed to uphold it or support it only when their opinion coincides with the written words.

When it comes to homosexuality, one can think it is the basis of all things evil or the mother of all purity but neither opinion should come into play when deciding if it is Constitutional and Unconstitutional. The government has been playing the emotion card for very long when it shouldn't have been. Does the government have a place when it comes to settling legal squabbles? Absolutely. Does it have any place in determining who is allowed to get married and who isn't? When it comes to adults, 100% absolutely not.

Many modern day Christians don't follow Jesus. They follow Paul. They also like to try to force the immoral horrors of the old testament onto the rest of us through the law, merrily oppressing gay people while they eat shellfish and wear mixed fiber clothing, never realizing the hypocrisy of their actions. If Christians followed through on the meaning of "Christian", and acted Christ like, I don't think many folks would have a problem with them at all. But thats just it, most of them act nothing like Jesus.

Hell, the quickest way to get called a communist socialist bleeding heart liberal scum bag by them is to, well, read what Jesus taught and act accordingly.

And I'm actually going to America in a few days. This should be interesting!

HOLD ON! WAIT A MINUTE! I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING THAT MIGHT CHANGE MY WHOLE OPINION ON THIS THING.

Ok, does this mean me and a buddy could live as roomates, but get married and share all the financial benefits of marriage like health insurance, life insurance, etc.? Actually, not even live as roomies, just get married. Is this legal? Is this possible?

We'll wait for you. In the mean time, we'll keep pointing out that you are wrong and have no argument. Don't worry, I was raised conservative Christian in the deep south, I know how hard it is to fight off such deeply ingrained brainwashing. It was a titanic struggle for me, and it's not really over completely just yet. Keep working on it.

Sure. If you had a female roommate, such a scam wouldn't be any different.

Have fun with the legal aspects of divorce though, since i'd imagine you'd only want to marry each other temporarily.

move along folks, decision made. nothing left to see here

Just a reminder: Use of the word gay as a derogatory term (as in to say something sucks) was against the ToU way back when, and it's still in effect today. We just removed a few with no penalties, but any more from this point on WILL be moderated. Fair warning to everyone.

And of course, if anyone thinks I'm being unfair about this, feel free to let the admins know.

@Maroxad: I was thinking the same thing, and I know moderate Republicans are ready to spend time talking about the REAL issues facing our country instead of wasting time and losing votes telling religious fundamentalist nut jobs what they want to hear. It'd be a great chance for them to just quietly move on and grow the tent. But you know these clowns are going to shove something into the platform for the party about a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage and try to force all candidates to sign a pledge.

Maybe by the next presidential election cycle the GOP can benefit from this ruling, but right now they are just too salty about it. They'll push their candidate to the extremist religious right, and all the Democrats will have to do is quote what they say during the primaries verbatim and watch the GOP lose independent voters, youth voters, and minorities. AGAIN.

Prenups baby, prenups.