feminism attacking WWII sailor kissing nurse picture

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#51 Posted by rilpas (8161 posts) -

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

Stesilaus

lucky for me we don't have said stereotypes in my country, I never even made the connection until someone told me about it a few months ago :P

I was just kidding, of course. :)

I know, good ol' 90's, those were simpler days

#52 Posted by ScorpionTroll (810 posts) -

'Feminists' are lawlz.

#53 Posted by Slow_Show (2018 posts) -

I wonder if there's any correlation between the responses here and GS's proclivity for "girl help" threads.

#54 Posted by mahlasor (1278 posts) -

Why does it seem to me, that older generations and more traditional young women - while not wanting to be stepped on by anyone - are far less senstive compared to a lot of hyper-sensitive feminists?

SaudiFury

I think people have become too sensitive.

#55 Posted by leviathan91 (7763 posts) -

Guys it's not a big deal, nor did she even care in the first place.

Also I don't remember who said it but forceful kissing isn't rape. It's sexual assault but NOT rape. Rape involves penetration. Jesus...

#56 Posted by Slashless (9515 posts) -

I wonder if there's any correlation between the responses here and GS's proclivity for "girl help" threads.

Slow_Show
"The responses don't agree with me, you all must be losers!"
#57 Posted by El_Zo1212o (6048 posts) -
The guy stole a kiss. Big deal. Back then "goils were goils and men were men."
#58 Posted by comp_atkins (32241 posts) -
sorry, i'm all out of outrage for the day.
#59 Posted by TrainerCeleste (1633 posts) -
I never knew that picture was being forced upon her :lol:
#60 Posted by danjammer69 (4150 posts) -

Sh!t like this really gets my blood boiling. Its not like he stuck his finger in her ass while he leaned her over for fvck's sake.

Anyhow, rape and sexual assault is a disgusting and vile violation of a woman OR a man. But to see the feminists using something like this to further their cause or to bring attention to it really makes me question their thinking.

Seriously, things like this do nothing to get people to listen to them. With all of the terrible crimes committed against women all over the globe, they choose this to get people's attention?

Besides, did you see how that nurse was dressed? She was totally asking for it! ;)

#61 Posted by SaudiFury (8707 posts) -

The guy stole a kiss. Big deal. Back then "goils were goils and men were men."El_Zo1212o
i remember watching a few youtube videos of ladies going around different college campuses asking what they like about men and what they think of them today. wasn't all that surprised to find they said they like assertive but not bossy was the one trait a lot of the ladies had in common for their desire. then kinda surprised when a lot of them said nowadays guys are way too skittish and shy and won't take the initiative to make the first move.

and i'm guilty of that as well. and personally speaking - and even a handful of the girls said the same thing - it's because we guys don't know where the 'line' is anymore. if we try and be spontaneous physically, we can go to jail in a quick hurry. all for misreading the signs. were apparently supposed to be able to read minds.

Which also reminds of the Louis CK skit. now his thing is about rape, but the first move if not wanted goes under assault or misconduct. and seriously who wants that on their record and reputation.

#62 Posted by theone86 (20555 posts) -

Drunken sailor kisses random woman on the street today "OMG what a perv!" Drunken sailor kisses random woman on the street fifty years ago "OMG, don't talk bad about him, we LIKE that picture!" If you're defending something you wouldn't normally defend simply because it's part of American iconography then I think feminists have made their point rather well.

#64 Posted by mingmao3046 (2681 posts) -

Drunken sailor kisses random woman on the street today "OMG what a perv!" Drunken sailor kisses random woman on the street fifty years ago "OMG, don't talk bad about him, we LIKE that picture!" If you're defending something you wouldn't normally defend simply because it's part of American iconography then I think feminists have made their point rather well.

theone86
it was right after a major war. not a completely random incident.
#65 Posted by theone86 (20555 posts) -

[QUOTE="theone86"]

Drunken sailor kisses random woman on the street today "OMG what a perv!" Drunken sailor kisses random woman on the street fifty years ago "OMG, don't talk bad about him, we LIKE that picture!" If you're defending something you wouldn't normally defend simply because it's part of American iconography then I think feminists have made their point rather well.

mingmao3046

it was right after a major war. not a completely random incident.

Okay, next time there's a big event I'm going to go out, get drunk, and kiss some random woman on the street. She better not prosecute. Like you said, it's alright if it's not random.

#66 Posted by SaudiFury (8707 posts) -

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="theone86"]

Drunken sailor kisses random woman on the street today "OMG what a perv!" Drunken sailor kisses random woman on the street fifty years ago "OMG, don't talk bad about him, we LIKE that picture!" If you're defending something you wouldn't normally defend simply because it's part of American iconography then I think feminists have made their point rather well.

theone86

it was right after a major war. not a completely random incident.

Okay, next time there's a big event I'm going to go out, get drunk, and kiss some random woman on the street. She better not prosecute. Like you said, it's alright if it's not random.

not in this litigious day and age. different times man.
#67 Posted by bjvill (143 posts) -
Well, legally speaking it ain't rape without something penetrating certain orifices. And for it to be rape of a mouth, a sexual organ must be what was inserted. No, you were not raped by the hand shaker. And the lady in the picture wasn't raped (at worst sexually assaulted).
#68 Posted by Legatus_Victix (144 posts) -

People are just running out of dumb **** to argue about.

#69 Posted by El_Zo1212o (6048 posts) -
Besides, did you see how that nurse was dressed? She was totally asking for it! ;)danjammer69
Ha ha HAH! Well played :D
#70 Posted by El_Zo1212o (6048 posts) -
...were apparently supposed to be able to read minds...SaudiFury
As far as I can tell, we've been supposed to read minds since the '60s.
#71 Posted by Legatus_Victix (144 posts) -
[QUOTE="SaudiFury"]...were apparently supposed to be able to read minds...El_Zo1212o
As far as I can tell, we've been supposed to read minds since the '60s.

Are you sure that wasn't just hippies on drugs talking? lol
#72 Posted by Sajo7 (14049 posts) -

i remember watching a few youtube videos of ladies going around different college campuses asking what they like about men and what they think of them today. wasn't all that surprised to find they said they like assertive but not bossy was the one trait a lot of the ladies had in common for their desire. then kinda surprised when a lot of them said nowadays guys are way too skittish and shy and won't take the initiative to make the first move.

and i'm guilty of that as well. and personally speaking - and even a handful of the girls said the same thing - it's because we guys don't know where the 'line' is anymore. if we try and be spontaneous physically, we can go to jail in a quick hurry. all for misreading the signs. were apparently supposed to be able to read minds.

Which also reminds of the Louis CK skit. now his thing is about rape, but the first move if not wanted goes under assault or misconduct. and seriously who wants that on their record and reputation.

SaudiFury
I'm not really sure how that is relevant to the specific issue, we aren't talking about dating, we are talking about a dude walking up to a stranger and just kissing them.
#73 Posted by SaudiFury (8707 posts) -
[QUOTE="SaudiFury"]

i remember watching a few youtube videos of ladies going around different college campuses asking what they like about men and what they think of them today. wasn't all that surprised to find they said they like assertive but not bossy was the one trait a lot of the ladies had in common for their desire. then kinda surprised when a lot of them said nowadays guys are way too skittish and shy and won't take the initiative to make the first move.

and i'm guilty of that as well. and personally speaking - and even a handful of the girls said the same thing - it's because we guys don't know where the 'line' is anymore. if we try and be spontaneous physically, we can go to jail in a quick hurry. all for misreading the signs. were apparently supposed to be able to read minds.

Which also reminds of the Louis CK skit. now his thing is about rape, but the first move if not wanted goes under assault or misconduct. and seriously who wants that on their record and reputation.

Sajo7
I'm not really sure how that is relevant to the specific issue, we aren't talking about dating, we are talking about a dude walking up to a stranger and just kissing them.

yeah your right. just a tangent going on in my mind.
#74 Posted by mahlasor (1278 posts) -

I got sexually assaulted once by a female, she rubbed my butt... I think the way to judge is not by legal definitions but through common sense. No harm no foul anyone? As long as her ability to function throughout the day is not hindered. Girl touched my butt, but I could still do my job anyways. I honestly dont think it is fair to call it a sexual assault. By the definition of assault, I have been assaulted an hundred times today... It takes the situation completely out of context.

#75 Posted by CreasianDevaili (4200 posts) -

Drunken sailor kisses random woman on the street today "OMG what a perv!" Drunken sailor kisses random woman on the street fifty years ago "OMG, don't talk bad about him, we LIKE that picture!" If you're defending something you wouldn't normally defend simply because it's part of American iconography then I think feminists have made their point rather well.

theone86
Yeah but if a guy bought lysol for his girl to clean her vagina with today he'd get a different reaction than back then too. Sure he shouldn't of just walked up and kissed her, especially since back then kissing was considered significant. However isn't this beating the horse just a bit?
#76 Posted by Sajo7 (14049 posts) -
[QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="SaudiFury"]

i remember watching a few youtube videos of ladies going around different college campuses asking what they like about men and what they think of them today. wasn't all that surprised to find they said they like assertive but not bossy was the one trait a lot of the ladies had in common for their desire. then kinda surprised when a lot of them said nowadays guys are way too skittish and shy and won't take the initiative to make the first move.

and i'm guilty of that as well. and personally speaking - and even a handful of the girls said the same thing - it's because we guys don't know where the 'line' is anymore. if we try and be spontaneous physically, we can go to jail in a quick hurry. all for misreading the signs. were apparently supposed to be able to read minds.

Which also reminds of the Louis CK skit. now his thing is about rape, but the first move if not wanted goes under assault or misconduct. and seriously who wants that on their record and reputation.

SaudiFury
I'm not really sure how that is relevant to the specific issue, we aren't talking about dating, we are talking about a dude walking up to a stranger and just kissing them.

yeah your right. just a tangent going on in my mind.

Fair enough.
#77 Posted by Gamefan1986 (1325 posts) -

I don't see the big deal, it happened in 1945 and it was just a kiss. What's the big deal?

I remember a party over a friend's house a few years ago where I got pretty hammered and laid down on one of the beds, and after a few minutes one of the girls I had been talking to that night (She wasn't drinking) came in, got on top of me and shoved her tongue in my mouth and led me by the hand all over the house and made out with me. Are you saying I was raped?

If I was then that's cool because that is seriously one of the coolest things to happen in my life.

#78 Posted by Sajo7 (14049 posts) -

I don't see the big deal, it happened in 1945 and it was just a kiss. What's the big deal?

I remember a party over a friend's house a few years ago where I got pretty hammered and laid down on one of the beds, and after a few minutes one of the girls I had been talking to that night (She wasn't drinking) came in, got on top of me and shoved her tongue in my mouth and led me by the hand all over the house and made out with me. Are you saying I was raped?

If I was then that's cool because that is seriously one of the coolest things to happen in my life.

Gamefan1986
Just because you didn't have a problem with it doesn't mean it isn't a problem for other people. Also she was sober? I'm really curious about her motives here. Are you guys an item now or what? :P
#79 Posted by Gamefan1986 (1325 posts) -

[QUOTE="Gamefan1986"]

I don't see the big deal, it happened in 1945 and it was just a kiss. What's the big deal?

I remember a party over a friend's house a few years ago where I got pretty hammered and laid down on one of the beds, and after a few minutes one of the girls I had been talking to that night (She wasn't drinking) came in, got on top of me and shoved her tongue in my mouth and led me by the hand all over the house and made out with me. Are you saying I was raped?

If I was then that's cool because that is seriously one of the coolest things to happen in my life.

Sajo7

Just because you didn't have a problem with it doesn't mean it isn't a problem for other people. Also she was sober? I'm really curious about her motives here. Are you guys an item now or what? :P

No I never saw her again after that. But everyone else at the party said she was a slvt, so I guess that was her motive.

#80 Posted by Optical_Order (5100 posts) -

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="theone86"]

Drunken sailor kisses random woman on the street today "OMG what a perv!" Drunken sailor kisses random woman on the street fifty years ago "OMG, don't talk bad about him, we LIKE that picture!" If you're defending something you wouldn't normally defend simply because it's part of American iconography then I think feminists have made their point rather well.

theone86

it was right after a major war. not a completely random incident.

Okay, next time there's a big event I'm going to go out, get drunk, and kiss some random woman on the street. She better not prosecute. Like you said, it's alright if it's not random.

If that event is world war fvcking three and you were fighting in it, go for it.

Congrats on surviving, you may steal a kiss.

#81 Posted by MrGeezer (57269 posts) -

If that event is world war fvcking three and you were fighting in it, go for it.

Congrats on surviving, you may steal a kiss.

Optical_Order
I don't understand, and I'm hoping you can explain it to me. How exactly does surviving a world war make it okay to treat a woman like my property, how exactly does that invalidate her say in the matter? Because I'm really not seeing the connection. Yes, the soldier just survived a world war. So what?
#82 Posted by General_X (9136 posts) -
I think it should only be a problem if the women thought it was a problem, I think it's odd that other people are getting upset about it for her.
#83 Posted by El_Zo1212o (6048 posts) -
[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

If that event is world war fvcking three and you were fighting in it, go for it.

Congrats on surviving, you may steal a kiss.

MrGeezer
I don't understand, and I'm hoping you can explain it to me. How exactly does surviving a world war make it okay to treat a woman like my property, how exactly does that invalidate her say in the matter? Because I'm really not seeing the connection. Yes, the soldier just survived a world war. So what?

'Like your property'? Seriously? Everybody is cheering and delirious over the fact that the biggest war with the most massive loss of life in history is over, so some dude reached out a kissed some woman. He didn't club her over the head and go all Clan of the Cave Bear on her. Holy sh!t. And now they're old friends and they trade Christmas cards.
#84 Posted by chaoscougar1 (37234 posts) -

>1945

They must be really bored or something.

Celldrax
#85 Posted by LostProphetFLCL (17819 posts) -

I think it should only be a problem if the women thought it was a problem, I think it's odd that other people are getting upset about it for her.General_X

THIS!

Do people have any idea what rape/sexual assault constitute? Apparently not seeing how stupid people are calling this rape...

#86 Posted by Krelian-co (13274 posts) -

inb4

"LYKE OMG FEMINISM IS BULLSHET!!" and "Ugh feminists."

And also: Link?

Lucky_Krystal

im too late but here goes:

feminism is bs and feminists are the most annoying and dumb group on the planet (after peta)

#87 Posted by SirWander (5176 posts) -

[QUOTE="General_X"]I think it should only be a problem if the women thought it was a problem, I think it's odd that other people are getting upset about it for her.LostProphetFLCL

THIS!

Do people have any idea what rape/sexual assault constitute? Apparently not seeing how stupid people are calling this rape...

I second that.

And it's not as if she needs defending almost 70 years after the fact.
Sure the kiss might have been a shock for her, but she wasn't repulsed by it either.

#88 Posted by Bloodseeker23 (8338 posts) -
Bloody idiots, the lot of them.
#89 Posted by whiskeystrike (12096 posts) -

I wouldn't go so far as to say he raped her but seems a bit uncalled for. Then again this is over half a century ago, who cares at this point.

#90 Posted by MrGeezer (57269 posts) -
[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"] 'Like your property'? Seriously? Everybody is cheering and delirious over the fact that the biggest war with the most massive loss of life in history is over, so some dude reached out a kissed some woman. He didn't club her over the head and go all Clan of the Cave Bear on her. Holy sh!t. And now they're old friends and they trade Christmas cards.

What their relationship is now isn't the issue. The point is that he saw her, he wanted her, so he took her. And how SHE felt about it didn't matter one f***ing bit. Optical_Order is saying that that's fine as long as you survived a world war, now I'm asking him what the f*** the two things have to do with each other.
#91 Posted by GrayF0X786 (4107 posts) -

how sad that women in the west are still living under all of this.

#92 Posted by leeveeu (3402 posts) -

Before anyone responds to this: Check your privileges at the door, malescum.

coolbeans90
What? Insults already? OK, with your father go teach your mother how to gang bang properly then please come back and post here. Thanks!
#93 Posted by SaudiFury (8707 posts) -

I think it should only be a problem if the women thought it was a problem, I think it's odd that other people are getting upset about it for her.General_X
pretty much the scenerio it seems like. Reading her interview from 2005, it doesn't seem like she was upset at all, and seemed to understand. she even seems a bit honored by the accidental fame she got. So it's a bit funny really to see other people get their knickers in a twist over it.

It's like if you had a white guy and a black guy, who were kinda friends, and one or both had a habit of making racist jokes (you know those 'jokes' that don't always seem like jokes) at one another. and the two on all accounts seem perfectly fine with being that way to each other. then the third party is like "ohhhhh.... that's racist".

but i'd get it, if in either case whether Friedman or my quick example, someone was upset about it. Just seems a bit silly when both parties don't seem to have an issue to see a third party just got their collective undies in a twist.

#94 Posted by ghoklebutter (19327 posts) -
I was going to post but Lockedge summed up my feelings perfectly.Sajo7
#95 Posted by MacBoomStick (1822 posts) -

The Joy of Hate: How to Triumph over Whiners in the Age of Phony Outrageby Greg Gutfeld. Everyone should read it.

#96 Posted by Overlord93 (12602 posts) -
Quote mining and misinterpretation. Another day on the job for feminism.
#97 Posted by toast_burner (22959 posts) -

Technically speaking, it is rape but seriously, you think she gave a **** ? The war just ended for godsake and the sailor didn't have any bad intentions. Not to mention its a really old photograph, certain things were socially acceptable back then. Nonstop-Madness

It is definetely not rape, but it technically is sexual assault

#98 Posted by toast_burner (22959 posts) -

how sad that women in the west are still living under all of this.

GrayF0X786

Because the middle east is so much better:roll:

#99 Posted by Jazz_Fan (29516 posts) -

I thought it was a neat little fact and that the article's attempt at social commentary was frivolous.

...Then I read this thread

#100 Posted by MrGeezer (57269 posts) -
It's like if you had a white guy and a black guy, who were kinda friends, and one or both had a habit of making racist jokes (you know those 'jokes' that don't always seem like jokes) at one another. and the two on all accounts seem perfectly fine with being that way to each other. then the third party is like "ohhhhh.... that's racist".SaudiFury
It's not like that at all, because in that case there's a history and a context which the third party is not aware of. There's consent between the two of them, the third party just doesn't know it. In THIS case, he just grabbed a random woman. A better analogy would be if a man was walking down the street, and made a racist slur to a completely random person who he never met. And then that person doesn't particularly care. He might not care, but that doesn't mean that it's okay to just spout racist slurs at a complete stranger.