I'm tired of the moral construct of society and OT in general. Saying that this man went about it the wrong way. Honestly, he filed reports, tried his best for the LAPD to take action and at least investigate. But in the end he was left with only one choice. To take matters into his own hands. I want this guy to keep fighting, his voice is now heard. These officers ruined his life, slandered his name. He took the right action when he was in a corner. Some situations in life need to settled this way. Believing in these so called "morals" will get a person nowhere.MgamerBDKilling folk who had nothing to do with it will get him nowhere. Not only is it morally reprehensible but it's not very practical either.
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[QUOTE="Mafiree"][QUOTE="MgamerBD"] He was a cop(probably corrupt). We make exceptions.MgamerBDKeith Lawrence wasn't a cop........ Oh he was black? Exceptions Suspected btw... Suspected? Certainly sounded like he said their murders were "necessary" in his manifesto.
[QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"] And where do you come from?EmpComNYC, Inner city, African American. Taught never to trust the cops. Till this day we get randomly frisked, we have to act a certain way around them. To be a black man in America means you are a criminal. Well if the cap fits You're not helping...
[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]I'm tired of the moral construct of society and OT in general. Saying that this man went about it the wrong way. Honestly, he filed reports, tried his best for the LAPD to take action and at least investigate. But in the end he was left with only one choice. To take matters into his own hands. I want this guy to keep fighting, his voice is now heard. These officers ruined his life, slandered his name. He took the right action when he was in a corner. Some situations in life need to settled this way. Believing in these so called "morals" will get a person nowhere.thebest31406Killing folk who had nothing to do with it will get him nowhere. Not only is it morally reprehensible but it's not very practical either. He is suspected to kill the innocents. Also morally? its not practical. But did it get around? Yeah.
[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="MgamerBD"]I'm tired of the moral construct of society and OT in general. Saying that this man went about it the wrong way. Honestly, he filed reports, tried his best for the LAPD to take action and at least investigate. But in the end he was left with only one choice. To take matters into his own hands. I want this guy to keep fighting, his voice is now heard. These officers ruined his life, slandered his name. He took the right action when he was in a corner. Some situations in life need to settled this way. Believing in these so called "morals" will get a person nowhere.MgamerBDKilling folk who had nothing to do with it will get him nowhere. Not only is it morally reprehensible but it's not very practical either. He is suspected to kill the innocents. Also morally? its not practical. But did it get around? Yeah. Suspected yes and given the fact the he himself plans on killing innocent folk... And yeah, morally. You know, morality?
But you probably never experienced the inner city. You never experienced the disappearance of friends. The mindset of your community as they believe the only way to succeed is to either be a rapper or a basketball. The belief that nobody is cut out for a good education. Waking up everyday to just get by. I was also taught to work hard from my mom who has come a long way. Told me education is the most important thing of your life, raised us by herself. But we are not blind, we still live here. We understand that we are still black, and therefore we will have to work harder then others. We will be judged the first time we walk into a room just by the color of our skin. That because we are black, we are just another statistic to others.MgamerBDI have been in the inner city, A large portion of my family lives in Los Angeles, were close by when the LA riots happened. My father dealt with racism his whole life, but made sure he never instilled that me. My sister was pulled over for being g@y, my friend was harassed by a cop for no reason at all. You think your the only one dealing with problems and racism, harassment? No, you are not. You think you are the only one who wakes up everyday just to get by? I am in the ghetto, and do the same everyday, but harbor no ill will or resent to other people. He is proof you don't need to be a rapper or a basketball player, and that a black man can make it even when he did it in the 60s, 70s and 80s. This is 2013, not 1953, but so much of black people here are stuck in that mindset. If you want change, it starts from within...With you, not by the barrel of a gun but by the power of the mind and heart.
You cheer for him because you buy into that outdated racist thug mentality. The idea of killing is the best way to solve a problem, you live by the sword; you die by the sword. Look around you, it's not the cops that are turning black people into gangbangers and ruining your community, YOU are. If you don't overcome violence and moves towards peace, the city will always be a violent hell hole and you will always be targeted. You really think Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King resorted to violence? Yet they manged to get more done that this sick piece of garbage will or ever could. MLK did not die just so you can throw away everything he fought for and died for. When are you going to get it? Some cops are not saints and make errors, but so do you and your just as much of the problem as they are. You got problems, and I pray you get help.We cheer for him because we want change, Sean Bell, Trayvon Martin, Don king. All people who have been shot by these pigs and have not seen justice. If words won't work, if writing a book won't work, if reporting won't work. What else can man do? Give up? Too many have done that already. Sadly, the LAPD pushed it this far, the corruption has sparked a backlash. EVERYONE is guilty.
MgamerBD
He is only making problems worse, he is only making people more scared of blacks. You don't fix things by killing people because they wear blue. He is not making things better, all he has done is get some innocent guys car shot up and business shutdown. He is hated, and feared. There are problems, but the right way is to call attention to them, without adding to them. I would rather not discuss those shootings, mostly because I sick of them. There is a lot of misunderstandings about them, mostly brought on by racism and fear.
[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]But you probably never experienced the inner city. You never experienced the disappearance of friends. The mindset of your community as they believe the only way to succeed is to either be a rapper or a basketball. The belief that nobody is cut out for a good education. Waking up everyday to just get by. I was also taught to work hard from my mom who has come a long way. Told me education is the most important thing of your life, raised us by herself. But we are not blind, we still live here. We understand that we are still black, and therefore we will have to work harder then others. We will be judged the first time we walk into a room just by the color of our skin. That because we are black, we are just another statistic to others.TheWalkingGhostI have been in the inner city, A large portion of my family lives in Los Angeles, were close by when the LA riots happened. My father dealt with racism his whole life, but made sure he never instilled that me. My sister was pulled over for being g@y, my friend was harassed by a cop for no reason at all. You think your the only one dealing with problems and racism, harassment? No, you are not. You think you are the only one who wakes up everyday just to get by? I am in the ghetto, and do the same everyday, but harbor no ill will or resent to other people. He is proof you don't need to be a rapper or a basketball player, and that a black man can make it even when he did it in the 60s, 70s and 80s. This is 2013, not 1953, but so much of black people here are stuck in that mindset. If you want change, it starts from within...With you, not by the barrel of a gun but by the power of the mind and heart. [QUOTE="MgamerBD"]
We cheer for him because we want change, Sean Bell, Trayvon Martin, Don king. All people who have been shot by these pigs and have not seen justice. If words won't work, if writing a book won't work, if reporting won't work. What else can man do? Give up? Too many have done that already. Sadly, the LAPD pushed it this far, the corruption has sparked a backlash. EVERYONE is guilty.
You cheer for him because you buy into that outdated racist thug mentality. The idea of killing is the best way to solve a problem, you live by the sword; you die by the sword. Look around you, it's not the cops that are turning black people into gangbangers and ruining your community, YOU are. If you don't overcome violence and moves towards peace, the city will always be a violent hell hole and you will always be targeted. You really think Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King resorted to violence? Yet they manged to get more done that this sick piece of garbage will or ever could. MLK did not die just so you can throw away everything he fought for and died for. When are you going to get it? Some cops are not saints and make errors, but so do you and your just as much of the problem as they are. You got problems, and I pray you get help.He is only making problems worse, he is only making people more scared of blacks. You don't fix things by killing people because they wear blue. He is not making things better, all he has done is get some innocent guys car shot up and business shutdown. He is hated, and feared. There are problems, but the right way is to call attention to them, without adding to them. I would rather not discuss those shootings, mostly because I sick of them. There is a lot of misunderstandings about them, mostly brought on by racism and fear.
Well saidAssimilate into the system? He didn't finish college, he just started working at pickle factories and trained in corporate finance, which he loved to do. When you said that, you disrespected him and everything he did. How can you expect me to take you seriously now? How can you be so diluted into thinking that not contributing to the problem, working and hard and instilling non-violence and acceptance in your kids is not changing anything? When you think, you will see how bad you are acting right now. Can you name one person MLK killed? One time he used violence to further his agenda? What have gangs and violence gotten us? Like i said, you need help. You are the past, people won't put up for this much longer. I used to be like you, then I grew up.
[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="MgamerBD"] Nope. I really don't. He tried other ways, they terminated him. Won't even investigate for him. Things need to change. Where I come from we don't trust the uniform at all. Everyone is guilty in their own way.MgamerBDAnd where do you come from? NYC, Inner city, African American. Taught never to trust the cops. Till this day we get randomly frisked, we have to act a certain way around them. To be a black man in America means you are a criminal. I have never been stopped and frisked, and I look suspicious to everyone. What gives?
Assimilate into the system? He didn't finish college, he just started working at pickle factories and trained in corporate finance, which he loved to do. When you said that, you disrespected him and everything he did. How can you expect me to take you seriously now? How can you be so diluted into thinking that not contributing to the problem, working and hard and instilling non-violence and acceptance in your kids is not changing anything? When you think, you will see how bad you are acting right now. Can you name one person MLK killed? One time he used violence to further his agenda? What have gangs and violence gotten us? Like i said, you need help. You are the past, people won't put up for this much longer. I used to be like you, then I grew up.
Your a pacifist...trust me you also lost creditibilty. You didn't grow, you regressed. Part of growing up is realizing that violence is a necessary evil. Not to hold on to such unnecessary ideals that could hold a person back. Also I never said MLK killed a man. Holding on to your ideals is...progress but unrealistic. Life is one big fight altogether. Non violence is truly a dream.I am in SOCAL, heavy Hispanic area and I look Middle Eastern most of all when I grow my beard out. My father was black, so I am an ethnic minority. I was raised to be a moral hard working person, not racist and to never harbor a grudge and harm innocent people. My father made it here, to high levels of finance. I am an minority, but more importantly a human being and would never react in a violent manner unless in self defense. My black father, made sure I turned out that way. He wasn't perfect, but he got that right. But you probably never experienced the inner city. You never experienced the disappearance of friends. The mindset of your community as they believe the only way to succeed is to either be a rapper or a basketball. The belief that nobody is cut out for a good education. Waking up everyday to just get by. I was also taught to work hard from my mom who has come a long way. Told me education is the most important thing of your life, raised us by herself. But we are not blind, we still live here. We understand that we are still black, and therefore we will have to work harder then others. We will be judged the first time we walk into a room just by the color of our skin. That because we are black, we are just another statistic to others. You must realize this also.[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="MgamerBD"] NYC, Inner city, African American. Taught never to trust the cops. Till this day we get randomly frisked, we have to act a certain way around them. To be a black man in America means you are a criminal. MgamerBD
We cheer for him because we want change, Sean Bell, Trayvon Martin, Don king. All people who have been shot by these pigs and have not seen justice. If words won't work, if writing a book won't work, if reporting won't work. What else can man do? Give up? Too many have done that already. Sadly, the LAPD pushed it this far, the corruption has sparked a backlash. EVERYONE is guilty.
I feel your plight, but I don't condone this man's actions. He's gone about things the wrong way; murdering innocent people is not a proper way of inciting change.
Leave it to OT to have people that agree with mass murdering of people many of whom had nothing to do with this. There are some despicable pieces of trash that post here. Hope they catch the dude soon....LJS9502_basicYou don't think I'm one of them, do you?
You don't think I'm one of them, do you? You're not arguing this dude is right in his actions are you? I honestly don't remember. You don't jump out at me like a couple others users do.....[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Leave it to OT to have people that agree with mass murdering of people many of whom had nothing to do with this. There are some despicable pieces of trash that post here. Hope they catch the dude soon....BluRayHiDef
What do you guys think he is doing at this very moment? Do you think he's already suicided? Do you think he's still in L.A., or California at all?
What do you guys think he is doing at this very moment? Do you think he's already suicided? Do you think he's still in L.A., or California at all?
BluRayHiDef
Don't know, too busy watching this. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux51jblFsCY
[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]You don't think I'm one of them, do you? You're not arguing this dude is right in his actions are you? I honestly don't remember. You don't jump out at me like a couple others users do..... I've said that I agree with his sentiments (i.e. the hatred he has for the LAPD's corruption and abuse of power), but that I don't agree with how he's acting upon them by targeting the family members of police officers and random police officers he doesn't know are corrupt or not. I've also said that targeting police officers he knows are corrupt is understandable.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Leave it to OT to have people that agree with mass murdering of people many of whom had nothing to do with this. There are some despicable pieces of trash that post here. Hope they catch the dude soon....LJS9502_basic
Your a pacifist...trust me you also lost creditibilty.MgamerBDSaid the guy cheering on a murderer.
Leave it to OT to have people that agree with mass murdering of people many of whom had nothing to do with this. There are some despicable pieces of trash that post here. Hope they catch the dude soon....LJS9502_basicLike I said...there are some members here that truly scare the hell out of me.
Like I said...there are some members here that truly scare the hell out of me. You don't think I'm one of them, do you?[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Leave it to OT to have people that agree with mass murdering of people many of whom had nothing to do with this. There are some despicable pieces of trash that post here. Hope they catch the dude soon....Pirate700
Like I said...there are some members here that truly scare the hell out of me. You don't think I'm one of them, do you?No...not yet anyway. :P[QUOTE="Pirate700"]
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Leave it to OT to have people that agree with mass murdering of people many of whom had nothing to do with this. There are some despicable pieces of trash that post here. Hope they catch the dude soon....BluRayHiDef
The last time I checked, there weren't any updates on the story. You guys think he's suicided already? Also, if he's still alve and camping out, how many days of food do you think he has?
Since it's happening around here, we get lots of updates on the news. They found his truck that he seems to have lit on fire. He's still on the lam though.The last time I checked, there weren't any updates on the story. You guys think he's suicided already? Also, if he's still alve and camping out, how many days of food do you think he has?
BluRayHiDef
Why do you ask such stupid questions?Also, if he's still alve and camping out, how many days of food do you think he has?
BluRayHiDef
[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]Why do you ask such stupid questions? That's not a stupid question.Also, if he's still alve and camping out, how many days of food do you think he has?
DaJuicyMan
Why do you ask such stupid questions? That's not a stupid question.[QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]
Also, if he's still alve and camping out, how many days of food do you think he has?
BluRayHiDef
Pretty insignificant question considering what's really happening.
[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]Depends on how long he's been planning to do this. this,i think he might be hiding underground he probably made a bunker.The last time I checked, there weren't any updates on the story. You guys think he's suicided already? Also, if he's still alve and camping out, how many days of food do you think he has?
chrisrooR
Like I said...there are some members here that truly scare the hell out of me.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Leave it to OT to have people that agree with mass murdering of people many of whom had nothing to do with this. There are some despicable pieces of trash that post here. Hope they catch the dude soon....Pirate700
I sympathize with how they feel. You see photos of police spraying college kids, police brutality, and abuses from the criminal justice system, and when someone acts violently against that system, there tends to be support and sympathy for that person. I can understand it but it's naivety.
Our criminal justice system is flawed but not so flawed in a way that the police are ruthless monsters equivalent to the Russian secret police. There are better and more peaceful ways to reform it such as eliminating mandatory sentencing, decreased penalties for non-violent crimes, and educating the American people on their rights. Meeting violence with violence is only going to exacerbate the problem and everything that person is fighting for becomes null and void.Â
Police brutality is a symptom of a disease that plagues our criminal justice system as a whole.
That's not a stupid question.[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]
[QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"] Why do you ask such stupid questions?jimkabrhel
Pretty insignificant question considering what's really happening.
It's actually very significant, because the amount of time his food supply will last determines how much longer his crime spree can continue.Like I said...there are some members here that truly scare the hell out of me.[QUOTE="Pirate700"]
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Leave it to OT to have people that agree with mass murdering of people many of whom had nothing to do with this. There are some despicable pieces of trash that post here. Hope they catch the dude soon....leviathan91
I sympathize with how they feel. You see photos of police spraying college kids, police brutality, and abuses from the criminal justice system, and when someone acts violently against that system, there tends to be support and sympathy for that person. I can understand it but it's naivety.
Our criminal justice system is flawed but not so flawed in a way that the police are ruthless monsters equivalent to the Russian secret police. There are better and more peaceful ways to reform it such as eliminating mandatory sentencing, decreased penalties for non-violent crimes, and educating the American people on their rights. Meeting violence with violence is only going to exacerbate the problem and everything that person is fighting for becomes null and void.Â
Police brutality is a symptom of a disease that plagues our criminal justice system as a whole.
The daughter of a police officer and her fiance where murdered and that murder is linked to this guy. Our Criminal justice system is far from prefect, but the murder of police officers families isn't the way to go. Also our police are far from secret police... :roll:Â
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The sad part about all this is that the people who are condemning this ex cop are supporting corrupt police organisations. It's also aumsing that people in this thread don't approve of an ex cop killing corrupt cops, yet they support corrupt cops/soldiers when they kill anyone else, whether It's in their own country or in a foreign country. If you truly want to see corruption hindered, then you should support this man. You may not agree with the actions he has taken( I agree personally) but you should support his cause.
metroidfood
No one should support his cause at all because it is exactly what has created this whole situation in the first place. If you even gave a sh!t about fixing the system then you'd be condemning this man for senseless violence that will only make the problem worse. There are proper, legal and sane channels to take but apparently some users here care more about jacking off to their violent revenge fantasies than caring about the lives of real people.
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Except that this man actually did go through the proper channels and it solved nothing. It's nice to know that you support corrupt cop's though and not people who fight against injustice. It's also laughable that you're condemning this man for senseless violence when the actual killings are far from senseless; he's going after corrupt cop's and their associates, so how is that exactly senseless? Going after the family of a murder/corrupt cop or whoever is probably the most rational choice. What do you think the Government would do if a Government employee who had a family stole secret documents and threatened the Government? Iguarantee you that the Government would go after his family and use them as ransom; It's no different in this case, except for the fact that one person(The ex cop) isn't corrupt and doesn't have a shiny badge.
No one here has violent revenge fantasies for wanting to see corrupt cop's get their fair share of justice, but you are correct that I don't care about other people. The ex cop is supporting justice and if you're against him then you're siding with corruption and tyranny.
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EDIT: As another user said a few posts above, this guy is basically Max Payne who fights corruption and injustice.Â
[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]
[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"] That's not a stupid question.
BluRayHiDef
Pretty insignificant question considering what's really happening.
It's actually very significant, because the amount of time his food supply will last determines how much longer his crime spree can continue.You don't think a guy on a murder spree has the means to get food from a house or something?[QUOTE="leviathan91"]
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Like I said...there are some members here that truly scare the hell out of me.
Chaos_HL21
I sympathize with how they feel. You see photos of police spraying college kids, police brutality, and abuses from the criminal justice system, and when someone acts violently against that system, there tends to be support and sympathy for that person. I can understand it but it's naivety.
Our criminal justice system is flawed but not so flawed in a way that the police are ruthless monsters equivalent to the Russian secret police. There are better and more peaceful ways to reform it such as eliminating mandatory sentencing, decreased penalties for non-violent crimes, and educating the American people on their rights. Meeting violence with violence is only going to exacerbate the problem and everything that person is fighting for becomes null and void.Â
Police brutality is a symptom of a disease that plagues our criminal justice system as a whole.
The daughter of a police officer and her fiance where murdered and that murder is linked to this guy. Our Criminal justice system is far from prefect, but the murder of police officers families isn't the way to go. Also our police are far from secret police... :roll:Â
Read what I just wrote then come back to me. :|
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[QUOTE="leviathan91"]
I sympathize with how they feel. You see photos of police spraying college kids, police brutality, and abuses from the criminal justice system, and when someone acts violently against that system, there tends to be support and sympathy for that person. I can understand it but it's naivety.
Our criminal justice system is flawed but not so flawed in a way that the police are ruthless monsters equivalent to the Russian secret police. There are better and more peaceful ways to reform it such as eliminating mandatory sentencing, decreased penalties for non-violent crimes, and educating the American people on their rights. Meeting violence with violence is only going to exacerbate the problem and everything that person is fighting for becomes null and void.Â
Police brutality is a symptom of a disease that plagues our criminal justice system as a whole.
leviathan91
The daughter of a police officer and her fiance where murdered and that murder is linked to this guy. Our Criminal justice system is far from prefect, but the murder of police officers families isn't the way to go. Also our police are far from secret police... :roll:Â
Read what I just wrote then come back to me. :|
Ok sorry about the first part of my statment, But our police force is far from Russian secret police, heck they are even far from being Russian police.
(also it wasn't really target at you, but other people supporting this guy)
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