Even if God exists...

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#1 zenogandia
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Let's pretend that God (or Gods) does in fact exist... then why exactly does he have to be the Abrahamic God? A god that cares for human beings. Allah, Krishna, God... They all apply.

For all we know our creator might have been a horeshoe and doesn't really care what we do for it.

Short and simple, but I need clarification.

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#2 Zeviander
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God is dog backwards.
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#3 wis3boi
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because people pick what they want to be real (usually what they grew up around)

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#4 themajormayor
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Who said he have to?
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#5 Pirate700
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He doesn't "have" to be be.

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#6 wis3boi
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Who said he have to? themajormayor

people who invoke pascal's wager as an argument, I s'pose

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#7 GreekGameManiac
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That's a good question.

Personally i'm SURE there are spirits,higher beings,and all that.

And i'm sure not all of them are of the same nature.

They exist in different dimensions/densities/planes,and they are hard to reach through conventional means.

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#8 outworld222
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He's not an abrahamic God (At least I don't think so) I think Abraham was just the first to believe in him. He is God of all people.

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#9 lowkey254
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I was going to respond directly to the OT but I decided not to feed Le Troll.

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#10 NEWMAHAY
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because people pick what they want to be real (usually what they grew up around)

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#11 psymon100
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me no no

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#12 GreekGameManiac
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He's not an abrahamic God (At least I don't think so) I think Abraham was just the first to believe in him. He is God of all people.

outworld222

I think the entity you're speaking of is just the governor deity of this planetary system...but that's me.

Ever read the Ra material?

Or stuff by HiddenHand?

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#13 dave123321
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It doesn't
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#14 Lostboy1224
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If it makes them a better person for believing then I'm all for it.
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#15 outworld222
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[QUOTE="outworld222"]

He's not an abrahamic God (At least I don't think so) I think Abraham was just the first to believe in him. He is God of all people.

GreekGameManiac

I think the entity you're speaking of is just the governor deity of this planetary system...but that's me.

Ever read the Ra material?

Or stuff by HiddenHand?

No but I played Konquest mode in MK: Deception.
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#16 Zeviander
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If it makes them a better person for believing then I'm all for it. Lostboy1224
People should choose to be good for the sake of being good. Those who choose to be good for the sake of a reward, or out of fear of punishment, are not good people.
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#17 psymon100
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[QUOTE="Lostboy1224"]If it makes them a better person for believing then I'm all for it. Zeviander
People should choose to be good for the sake of being good. Those who choose to be good for the sake of a reward, or out of fear of punishment, are not good people.

Good post Zev.

I don't know why OT posters can be so critical of you.

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#18 dave123321
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[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="Lostboy1224"]If it makes them a better person for believing then I'm all for it. psymon100

People should choose to be good for the sake of being good. Those who choose to be good for the sake of a reward, or out of fear of punishment, are not good people.

Good post Zev.

I don't know why OT posters can be so critical of you.

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#19 GreekGameManiac
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[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="Lostboy1224"]If it makes them a better person for believing then I'm all for it. psymon100

People should choose to be good for the sake of being good. Those who choose to be good for the sake of a reward, or out of fear of punishment, are not good people.

Good post Zev.

I don't know why OT posters can be so critical of you.

He's a pretentious **** that's why.

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#20 psymon100
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[QUOTE="psymon100"]

[QUOTE="Zeviander"] People should choose to be good for the sake of being good. Those who choose to be good for the sake of a reward, or out of fear of punishment, are not good people.GreekGameManiac

Good post Zev.

I don't know why OT posters can be so critical of you.

He's a pretentious **** why.

I've seen you posting very pro religious things, and very anti religious things GreekGameManiac.

Maybe you'll change your mind about Zeviander too?

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#21 GreekGameManiac
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[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

[QUOTE="psymon100"]

Good post Zev.

I don't know why OT posters can be so critical of you.

psymon100

He's a pretentious **** why.

I've seen you posting very pro religious things, and very anti religious things GreekGameManiac.

Maybe you'll change your mind about Zeviander too?

What? i've never supported religion,it's brainwashing.

-_-

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#22 timstevensonori
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if god existed, i doubt that nicki minaj would be allowed to live on this planet
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#23 psymon100
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http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29341435/science-and-philosophy

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

Thinking that the only reality is the one you see,is the one of the most stupid,blandest,pointless point of views i've ever heard.

GreekGameManiac

"everyone is a moron except for me. Go me."

Lol,yeah,because "everyone" has the same atheistic,bland biews as YOU

>_> who's the moron here.

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#24 Zeviander
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I don't know why OT posters can be so critical of you.psymon100
They disagree with my political positions. Or so it seems. To be quite honest, I'm still learning a lot, not only about the positions I hold, but various ideas from different people who hold the same standards. Whenever "libertarian" comes up, "Ayn Rand" almost always follows. And those two words make a lot of people start foaming at the mouth, regardless if they know anything about her work or not. Personally, I don't agree with everything she said. Not even close. But I enjoyed Atlas Shrugged immensely, and am interested in reading her other work. But I digress...
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#25 Rich3232
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[QUOTE="Lostboy1224"]If it makes them a better person for believing then I'm all for it. Zeviander
People should choose to be good for the sake of being good. Those who choose to be good for the sake of a reward, or out of fear of punishment, are not good people.

reminds me of kant.
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#26 GreekGameManiac
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http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29341435/science-and-philosophy

[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

"everyone is a moron except for me. Go me."

psymon100

Lol,yeah,because "everyone" has the same atheistic,bland biews as YOU

>_> who's the moron here.

I say NOTHING about religion.

o.o

Are you seeing things,mate?

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#27 osirisx3
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another lame atheist theard yay we need more of those.

No one said it has to be the god of the big 3.

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#28 GreekGameManiac
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another lame atheist theard yay we need more of those.

No one said it has to be the god of the big 3.

osirisx3

Actually i think both atheists and religious ppl are stupid.

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#29 osirisx3
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[QUOTE="osirisx3"]

another lame atheist theard yay we need more of those.

No one said it has to be the god of the big 3.

GreekGameManiac

Actually i think both atheists and religious ppl are stupid.

glad we agree

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#30 psymon100
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I say NOTHING about religion.

o.o

Are you seeing things,mate?

GreekGameManiac

My apologies, perhaps I am. I was confused as you'll post things which are pro the existence of a deity, or anti-atheism, but then different things which are anti-religion.

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#31 GreekGameManiac
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[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

I say NOTHING about religion.

o.o

Are you seeing things,mate?

psymon100

My apologies, perhaps I am. I was confused as you'll post things which are pro the existence of a deity, or anti-atheism, but then different things which are anti-religion.

-_- believing,or REALISING that there's more than the physical world out there,does NOT make one religious,damnit!

Following religious rules and books and bs does!

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#32 psymon100
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[QUOTE="psymon100"]

[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

I say NOTHING about religion.

o.o

Are you seeing things,mate?

GreekGameManiac

My apologies, perhaps I am. I was confused as you'll post things which are pro the existence of a deity, or anti-atheism, but then different things which are anti-religion.

-_- believing,or REALISING that there's more than the physical world out there,does NOT make one religious,damnit!

Following religious rules and books and bs does!

Don't worry man, I gotcha.

I jumped the gun a bit as I felt your insult towards Zeviander was baseless.

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#33 GreekGameManiac
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Don't worry man, I gotcha.

I jumped the gun a bit as I felt your insult towards Zeviander was baseless.

psymon100

Baseless?

I wish....

>_>

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#34 psymon100
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[QUOTE="psymon100"]

Don't worry man, I gotcha.

I jumped the gun a bit as I felt your insult towards Zeviander was baseless.

GreekGameManiac

Baseless?

I wish....

>_>

You wish it was baseless?

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#35 GreekGameManiac
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You wish it was baseless?

psymon100

*Hint hint*

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#36 GOGOGOGURT
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dumb choices are dumb

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#37 GOGOGOGURT
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NO WAIT LEMME GUESS UR ATHIEST:o:o:oOMG OMG OMG SO ORIGINAL

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#38 ModernRousseau
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None of those poll options apply to me. More importantly, assuming there is a god, there can only either be one or several who work together. The reason there is one for each religion is that his personality is different according to each religion. The God of Christianity is a much more personal God than the God of Islam--that's the major difference. And both religions say the other is false, and are incompatible with each other, which means it's not that its one God who supports two religions. As for all the polytheistic religions, they also are incompatible with Christianity--again, Christianity says there is only one, which means they're incompatible. They're different options.
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#39 Bane_09
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If the Abrahamic God was proven to be real I still wouldn't worhip him

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#40 spiderluck
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Why would anyone believe in an all knowing God when that very notion implies Him knowing if you will go to Heaven or hell..And then in spite of Him knowing that proceeds to punish people for ETERNITY for something He knew they would do in the first place..This is the very definition of a psycho God...If you're going to believe in a God at least have enough sense to believe in a cool one...Failing that, make up your own cool God..Chances are you will be closer to the truth

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#41 Hakumen21
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even if he was real, i wouldnt worship him anyways.

he is literally The King of Hypocricy.

For Fck sakes, he has his own 'Scumbag God' Meme!

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#42 zenogandia
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NO WAIT LEMME GUESS UR ATHIEST:o:o:oOMG OMG OMG SO ORIGINAL

GOGOGOGURT

I'm not an atheist.:o:o:o:o OMG OMG OMG!!!

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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

NO WAIT LEMME GUESS UR ATHIEST:o:o:oOMG OMG OMG SO ORIGINAL

zenogandia

I'm not an atheist.:o:o:o:o OMG OMG OMG!!!

looooooooool
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#44 Toph_Girl250
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We don't know, we'll never know, who the f*ck cares?
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#45 IveDatedUrMom
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[QUOTE="osirisx3"]

another lame atheist theard yay we need more of those.

No one said it has to be the god of the big 3.

GreekGameManiac

Actually i think both atheists and religious ppl are stupid.

And I think you are mentally retarded and / or challenged. Also brainwashed by society.
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#46 lonewolfman10
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God is dog backwards.Zeviander

Hmmmm, never realized that until now

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#47 Teenaged
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Because, being the wild-card that he is (being attributed with any feature that suits the person that makes him/her/it up), also serves to fill the void of occasional loneliness and the need for guidance.

Because God and whatever his existense entails doesnt only fill gaps of knowledge but is also in tune with the human psyche. We want whatever is "above" us to be sth/sb relatable to at least a degree. Otherwise we dont have a basis to start off in order to try to understand him/her/it. So, to me, that also shows how we humans are curious about those things. God, involves a lot of imagination which is just a shortcut for the human curiosity. Thats my take which may or may not change in the future.

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#48 Toph_Girl250
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[QUOTE="Zeviander"]God is dog backwards.lonewolfman10

Hmmmm, never realized that until now

Really? I've noticed this a loooong time ago. And Jesus Christ spelled backwards is Tsirhc Sesuj.
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#49 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="lonewolfman10"]

[QUOTE="Zeviander"]God is dog backwards.Toph_Girl250

Hmmmm, never realized that until now

Really? I've noticed this a loooong time ago. And Jesus Christ spelled backwards is Tsirhc Sesuj.

Sounds like an Asian monk

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#50 GreekGameManiac
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[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

[QUOTE="osirisx3"]

another lame atheist theard yay we need more of those.

 

No one said it has to be the god of the big 3.

IveDatedUrMom

Actually i think both atheists and religious ppl are stupid.

And I think you are mentally retarded and / or challenged. Also brainwashed by society.

OMG,wtf?

There it is again!

Did he even atleast get a warning?

Cause if I said that,i'd get a warning,or in some cases.,suspended.

>_> !@#$%^&*