Religon of pe... oh wait.... ban guns!ujjval16Assuming all americans are Christian?
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They consider that they are also protecting the family....some home invasions end in death.Since I don't want to make a new thread for this question but why do gun owners defend their property if it actually was a home invasion? By property I mean stuff like TV, video game systems, jewelery, etc. Stuff that you (should) have insurance on and are easily replaced. Is it worth risking you and your loved one's lives in danger?
Aljosa23
[QUOTE="ujjval16"]Religon of pe... oh wait.... ban guns!TheTolemacAssuming all americans are Christian? You are lost....:lol:
The majority of gun related deaths deal with domestic or gang related crime. These cases while sad and sensational, don't really deal with the bigger problem.
[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]They consider that they are also protecting the family....some home invasions end in death.I guess that's true. But if it was me I'd be hiding somewhere and calling 911 lol.Since I don't want to make a new thread for this question but why do gun owners defend their property if it actually was a home invasion? By property I mean stuff like TV, video game systems, jewelery, etc. Stuff that you (should) have insurance on and are easily replaced. Is it worth risking you and your loved one's lives in danger?
LJS9502_basic
They consider that they are also protecting the family....some home invasions end in death.I guess that's true. But if it was me I'd be hiding somewhere and calling 911 lol. But then again, it might take the cops a while to get to your crib.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]
Since I don't want to make a new thread for this question but why do gun owners defend their property if it actually was a home invasion? By property I mean stuff like TV, video game systems, jewelery, etc. Stuff that you (should) have insurance on and are easily replaced. Is it worth risking you and your loved one's lives in danger?
Aljosa23
I guess that's true. But if it was me I'd be hiding somewhere and calling 911 lol. But then again, it might take the cops a while to get to your crib. The only answer is obviously more guns. If all the people in the car had guns to protect themselves than maybe the shooter would be dead too. The Right to Bear Arms!![QUOTE="Aljosa23"]
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] They consider that they are also protecting the family....some home invasions end in death.whipassmt
I guess that's true. But if it was me I'd be hiding somewhere and calling 911 lol. But then again, it might take the cops a while to get to your crib.Sure but I'll still be safe in the closet. I don't care if they steal material objects enough to risk my life.[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] They consider that they are also protecting the family....some home invasions end in death.whipassmt
Why does this always happen with old people in the south? Are they that parinoid?
Wasdie
They just are, bro.
[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]
]Sure but I'll still be safe in the closet. I don't care if they steal material objects enough to risk my life.
Namgis
And if they have a taste for murder?
That would be an extraordinary circumstance. No burgular is dumb enough to try and commit murder AFTER they got what they wanted.[QUOTE="wis3boi"]If he had... you probably would blame the knife and then I'd have to cut my steak with a damn fork :| don't be stupid. you'd use a spoonI highly doubt a man pulling into the wrong driveway would have died if this idiot didnt have a gun on him. What would he do, throw a knife through the windshield?
double_decker
[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]Maybe I'd be spiteful and use a spork :Pdon't be stupid. you'd use a spoon
double_decker
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If he had... you probably would blame the knife and then I'd have to cut my steak with a damn fork :| don't be stupid. you'd use a spoon[QUOTE="double_decker"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]
I highly doubt a man pulling into the wrong driveway would have died if this idiot didnt have a gun on him. What would he do, throw a knife through the windshield?
comp_atkins
Hey now, this is getting kinky in here
So what happens if I have to knock on someone's door to call the police because I my car broke down the road? People sure are getting antsy quite easily now-uh-days.FightingfanSeems like fear is a central aspect of gun culture. Whether it be fear of the government, fear of strangers, etc.
Seems like fear is a central aspect of gun culture. Whether it be fear of the government, fear of strangers, etc.[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]So what happens if I have to knock on someone's door to call the police because I my car broke down the road? People sure are getting antsy quite easily now-uh-days.Aljosa23
*doorbell rings*
*door doesn't open*
*door carved open by hail of bullets*
There are plenty of responsbile people who are fine with owning guns. This isn't one of them.
wis3boi
Boom.
And home defense is one of the perfectly reasonable and responsible uses for a gun. But, in this case, assuming it actually happened the way it was described here, the guy was clearly paranoid and crazy, and waaaaaaaaaaay overreacted. I mean, at this point, even coming out of the house with the gun was already an overreaction. Shooting into the air? Even more of an overreaction. Shooting AT THE CAR, as they STARTED TO DRIVE AWAY? Guy's batsh!t insane, and is one of the people who SHOULDN'T have a gun.
[QUOTE="wis3boi"]
There are plenty of responsbile people who are fine with owning guns. This isn't one of them.
the_bi99man
Boom.
And home defense is one of the perfectly reasonable and responsible uses for a gun. But, in this case, assuming it actually happened the way it was described here, the guy was clearly paranoid and crazy, and waaaaaaaaaaay overreacted. I mean, at this point, even coming out of the house with the gun was already an overreaction. Shooting into the air? Even more of an overreaction. Shooting AT THE CAR, as they STARTED TO DRIVE AWAY? Guy's batsh!t insane, and is one of the people who SHOULDN'T have a gun.
Same goes for old folks and cars. They should be checked and re-checked and evaluated more often past a certain age, perhaps.
Seems like fear is a central aspect of gun culture. Whether it be fear of the government, fear of strangers, etc.[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]So what happens if I have to knock on someone's door to call the police because I my car broke down the road? People sure are getting antsy quite easily now-uh-days.Aljosa23
Some people just go way overboard with it. I used to live in a really nasty, ghetto part of town, and I had a loaded gun in the house at all times. I still wasn't shooting the door every time there was an unexpected knock. Worst case scenario, like if there was a knock, and no one aswered when I yelled "who is it?", I'd take a peek out the window, if it was someone shady looking (or no one at all), I'd just make sure my gun was within reach, and wait. The only time it ever went any farther than that, this guy knocked extremely hard like 10 times, then started trying to turn the knob (it was locked), then he started tapping on the window by the door. So I opened the door, with my .45 colt revolver in my hand, but out of view of the doorway. The guy started saying something incoherently (he was a meth addict. I've seen more than enough to recognize it), so I told him he had 5 seconds to get out my sight. He started saying something else, so I brought out the gun, cocked it, and started counting down from 5. He was gone by the time I hit 2.
[QUOTE="Namgis"]
[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]
]Sure but I'll still be safe in the closet. I don't care if they steal material objects enough to risk my life.
Aljosa23
And if they have a taste for murder?
That would be an extraordinary circumstance. No burgular is dumb enough to try and commit murder AFTER they got what they wanted.that actually happens alot. Burglars break into a house they thought was empty, take a bunch of sh!t, then, on their way out, they hear someone. Fearing the idea of witnesses, they go on a hunt.
[QUOTE="Namgis"]
[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]
]Sure but I'll still be safe in the closet. I don't care if they steal material objects enough to risk my life.
Aljosa23
And if they have a taste for murder?
That would be an extraordinary circumstance. No burgular is dumb enough to try and commit murder AFTER they got what they wanted. I remember 1st day of 06 someone did exactly what you said,robbed the house and killed the whole family,then they did the same thing to another family a few days later[QUOTE="Namgis"]
[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]
]Sure but I'll still be safe in the closet. I don't care if they steal material objects enough to risk my life.
Aljosa23
And if they have a taste for murder?
That would be an extraordinary circumstance. No burgular is dumb enough to try and commit murder AFTER they got what they wanted.Have you SEEN America, lately?
[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Seems like fear is a central aspect of gun culture. Whether it be fear of the government, fear of strangers, etc. Hmm, I don't know anyone that owns a gun out of fear. I'm not sure that is accurate.That's a cool anedcote, please tell me more.[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]So what happens if I have to knock on someone's door to call the police because I my car broke down the road? People sure are getting antsy quite easily now-uh-days.thegerg
[QUOTE="Crazyguy105"]Because if not they'd just find other ways to kill, people have been doing that since the beginning of time. Perhaps, but why make it easier for them?Another life needlessly lost.
Why are trigger happy people allowed to use weapons again?
double_decker
[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]That's a cool anedcote, please tell me more. It's cooler than your's.I never said it was I said it seems like it. From all the news reports and media trying to stir up fear to Alex Jones saying guns are needed to protect from the tyranny of the government and so on.[QUOTE="thegerg"] Hmm, I don't know anyone that owns a gun out of fear. I'm not sure that is accurate.thegerg
It's cooler than your's.I never said it was I said it seems like it. From all the news reports and media trying to stir up fear to Alex Jones saying guns are needed to protect from the tyranny of the government and so on.[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]That's a cool anedcote, please tell me more.
Aljosa23
You're not going to get an objective view of any subject if all you know of it is what the media portrays. As someone else just said, it's preparedness, not fear. Although there certainly are some who do it out of fear, and they're doing it wrong.
[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]I never said it was I said it seems like it. From all the news reports and media trying to stir up fear to Alex Jones saying guns are needed to protect from the tyranny of the government and so on. I never said that you said it was. Owning a gun for protection (be it from a break-in or from the state) is about preparedness, not fear. What do you mean "from the state"?[QUOTE="thegerg"] It's cooler than your's.thegerg
I never said it was I said it seems like it. From all the news reports and media trying to stir up fear to Alex Jones saying guns are needed to protect from the tyranny of the government and so on.[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]
[QUOTE="thegerg"] It's cooler than your's.the_bi99man
You're not going to get an objective view of any subject if all you know of it is what the media portrays. As someone else just said, it's preparedness, not fear. Although there certainly are some who do it out of fear, and they're doing it wrong.
Yeah, I know. I live in Canada and we have no gun culture so it's hard to get an idea on how it really is.I never said it was I said it seems like it. From all the news reports and media trying to stir up fear to Alex Jones saying guns are needed to protect from the tyranny of the government and so on.[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]
[QUOTE="thegerg"] It's cooler than your's.the_bi99man
You're not going to get an objective view of any subject if all you know of it is what the media portrays. As someone else just said, it's preparedness, not fear. Although there certainly are some who do it out of fear, and they're doing it wrong.
Why do they feel the need to be prepared? People prepare out of fear of the uncertain and fear has always been the emotion to drive preparedness. Fear isn't a bad thing as being prepared isn't bad but to say fear is not an aspect of this is a clear misunderstanding of motive.Please Log In to post.
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