@GazaAli: I guess we just have different realities. I've done martial arts, won championships, beaten men and women in tournaments, so I think I CAN overpower most women and probably a great percentage of the men. Being able to and doing something are 2 separate things, though. I have my reasons not to hit women. Would I stay with a woman like the aforementioned Patrick's wife? Hell no, but I wouldn't hit her either (in theory...you can never be 100% sure of what you would or wouldn't do until you're there, all you have until then is your moral code). But your quickness to judge is amazing. You automatically called Patrick a wuss, but do you have any freaking clue what is situation is? He has 3 kids and he's recently unemployed, she's rich and has family outside of the country. He has very little chance of getting custody of the kids and if she claims abuse (whether he did or not) he can just say goodbye to his kids, so his love for his kids is bigger than his love of his ego. Is it the right thing to do? That's not up to me to decide but your comment was another example for the "talking out of your ass" I referred on my first post.
We judge everyone, especially people who don't live in accordance with our values, but your tendency to condemn them is shocking to me, and maybe I'm judging you too (and I apologise) but would it hurt to be a little more sympathetic towards your fellow human beings? And to answer your question, no, it's not the same as the discussion about obese people; in one case they're doing it to themselves, in this case they're harming other people.
You also say you didn't mention abuse but did you somehow miss the topic of this thread? Also you say you weren't referring to couples or relationships. Were you discussion muggings then? Women approaching a stranger and slapping him? Maybe bullying? Where do you think most situations of abuse (see OP) happen?
You say
"No one deserves evil if he/she didn't do evil."
"Part of survival is to learn how to fend for yourself. If you failed in that, it doesn't mean that you justly deserve it"
"I'd say let him get his ass handed to him he kind of deserves it."
"if a man despite that edge cannot take on a woman then I think its pitiful"
So which one is it? With posts like these I'm starting to understand why thegerg feels the need to dissect people's posts; most make no sense...
You also seem to be of the opinion that "is not able to" and "is not willing to" mean the same. I'm trying to understand your point of view, I really am, but the only message I'm getting is a "survival of the fittest"; you either dominate or it's your fault.
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