Do you think there is life after death?

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#51 Posted by GreekGameManiac (6439 posts) -

But my mother just told me that there is no life after death and that this life is probably all there is. So who should I believe, you or my mother?

pariah3

Are you 4 years old?

No.

In the case you're serious,you're just some dumb kid,sorry.

She just thinks that.

#52 Posted by pariah3 (1000 posts) -

Are you 4 years old?

No.

In the case you're serious,you're just some dumb kid,sorry.

She just thinks that.

GreekGameManiac

She doesn't just think that. She is my mother and she will always tell me my truth. And if she tells me there is no life after death then I believe her because well, she's still my mother and she always wants what's best for me.

#53 Posted by JigglyWiggly_ (23609 posts) -

ofc

quake heroes are needed in the after life as well
i can feel it
rapha knows this

why else would the best quake live dueler be super religious

dhat

#54 Posted by GreekGameManiac (6439 posts) -

She doesn't just think that. She is my mother and she will always tell my truth. And if she tells me there is no life after death then I believe her because well, she's still my mother.

 

pariah3

You're naive,dumb,brainwashed kid.

#55 Posted by pariah3 (1000 posts) -

You're naive,dumb,brainwashed kid.GreekGameManiac

No I'm not a naive and brainwashed kid. I just believe what my mother told me and she will never lie to me. And there really is no evidence for life after death because no one really came back from death and told me that this is his second (or even 3rd) life.

#56 Posted by SaudiFury (8707 posts) -

i honestly wouldn't be surprised if either happened. whether you just slept a dreamless 'sleep' (not concious at all) as it were, or if there is..... something. else.

 

but regardless of that, i think it's more important and useful to focus your effort and time in the concious life you have now. 

but getting cought up in the what if's of the afterlife is just wasting time, nobody really knows when it comes to that metaphysical question, lots of religions, myths, philosophers and scientists have given their answers. What people can only tell you is what they observe the body is doing during and after death and that's about the closest and best we'll get until we all eventually meet our ends.... 

#57 Posted by GreekGameManiac (6439 posts) -

[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]You're naive,dumb,brainwashed kid.pariah3

No I'm not a naive and brainwashed kid. I just believe what my mother told me and she will never lie to me. And there really is no evidence for life after death because no one really came back from death and told me that this is his second life.

Yes,you are a naive,dumb kid.

"Oh i listen to my mommy"

God,.you sound like a little 4 years old,honest.

#58 Posted by rocinante_ (1666 posts) -

do i believe so certainly? no

do i hope so and ponder the possibility? yes

#59 Posted by MetalDogGear (806 posts) -

[QUOTE="pariah3"]

[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]You're naive,dumb,brainwashed kid.GreekGameManiac

No I'm not a naive and brainwashed kid. I just believe what my mother told me and she will never lie to me. And there really is no evidence for life after death because no one really came back from death and told me that this is his second life.

Yes,you are a naive,dumb kid.

"Oh i listen to my mommy"

God,.you sound like a little 4 years old,honest.

What the **** What is this? Daycare? Grow the heck up!

#60 Posted by GreekGameManiac (6439 posts) -

 What the **** What is this? Daycare? Grow the heck up!

MetalDogGear

Well,he/she must be a kid(is)if he/she listens to her/his mommy like that.

That's being naive and stupid,.

#61 Posted by pariah3 (1000 posts) -

Well,he/she must be a kid(is)if he/she listens to her/his mommy like that.

That's being naive and stupid,.GreekGameManiac

Why is listening to what your parents are saying naive and stupid? My parents will never lie to me and I believe they will always tell me the truth until the day that I die.

I would much rather listen to my parents are saying rather than to some stranger on the Internet.

#62 Posted by MetalDogGear (806 posts) -

[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]Well,he/she must be a kid(is)if he/she listens to her/his mommy like that.

That's being naive and stupid,.pariah3

What if listening to what your parents is naive and stupid? My parents will never lie to me and I believe they will always tell me the truth until the day that I lie.

I would much rather listen to my parents and what they are saying rather than to some stranger on the Internet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfC4u5GCy3I
#63 Posted by Ace6301 (21389 posts) -
Nope.
#64 Posted by tocool340 (20549 posts) -

I believe in reincarnation where you can potentially be reborn after thousand or so years through natural means, perhaps into a different life form, but remember nothing of this life. As for an afterlife like Heaven or Hell, no I don't. When you die, I consider it a dreamless sleep where your current conscious get's formatted til the next time you are reborn. Your entiire experience and memories in this life is erased....

#65 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

I believe in reincarnation, so...

If you don't get reincarnated, is there such a thing as hell? No. After you die, that's it.

#66 Posted by TheWalkingGhost (5422 posts) -
Nobody knows, there is no way anybody can. So, anybody who claims they do is a damn liar.
#67 Posted by pariah3 (1000 posts) -

Nobody knows, there is no way anybody can. So, anybody who claims they do is a damn liar. TheWalkingGhost

Of course we can know. We can know everything through science and especially physics because everything must obey the laws of physics.

If only our society put more value on science and especially physics instead of on religious mysticism then we wouldn't be in the bad situation we are now.

#68 Posted by TheWalkingGhost (5422 posts) -

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]Nobody knows, there is no way anybody can. So, anybody who claims they do is a damn liar. pariah3

Of course we can know. We can know everything through science and especially physics because everything must obey the laws of physics.

If only our society put more value on science and especially physics instead of on religious mysticism then we wouldn't be in the bad situation we are now.

Case in point. Science cannot explain what is not observable, it can tell us what happens to our bodies after we die, but that is not the issue. The question is what happens to us, our thoughts, memories and what makes us who we are. That cannot be answered as sciences ability to study these things ends after our body decomposes.

What do we see after we die? Can we move about? How can these be answered when there is zero way to observe them? They can't be, why is this so hard to understand? There are just some things we have accept we can never fully know, and that is one of them.

#69 Posted by chaoscougar1 (36824 posts) -
Only one way to find out
#70 Posted by pariah3 (1000 posts) -

What do we see after we die? Can we move about? How can these be answered when there is zero way to observe them? They can't be, why is this so hard to understand? There are just some things we have accept we can never fully know, and that is one of them.TheWalkingGhost

You guys are making a lot of unsubstantiated statements. Of course we can know what happens after death.

There is a body farm in Tennessee where they do experiments on human corpses and they see what happens to them after death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility

And we can also do experiments on animals and insects and so we can see what happens to them after they die. It's called animal testing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_testing

#71 Posted by chaoscougar1 (36824 posts) -

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]What do we see after we die? Can we move about? How can these be answered when there is zero way to observe them? They can't be, why is this so hard to understand? There are just some things we have accept we can never fully know, and that is one of them.pariah3

You guys are making a lot of unsubstantiated statements. Of course we can know what happens after death.

There is a body farm in Tennessee where they do experiments on human corpses and they see what happens to them after death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility

And we can also do experiments on animals and insects and so we can see what happens to them after they die. It's called animal testing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_testing

 

 

lol
To the body
Not ze mind

#72 Posted by FMAB_GTO (14385 posts) -
Yes.
#73 Posted by TheWalkingGhost (5422 posts) -

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]What do we see after we die? Can we move about? How can these be answered when there is zero way to observe them? They can't be, why is this so hard to understand? There are just some things we have accept we can never fully know, and that is one of them.pariah3

You guys are making a lot of unsubstantiated statements. Of course we can know what happens after death.

There is a body farm in Tennessee where they do experiments on human corpses and they see what happens to them after death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility

And we can also do experiments on animals and insects and so we can see what happens to them after they die. It's called animal testing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_testing

You have to be the dumbest person in OT right now. That is the body, which is not the question.
#74 Posted by GrayF0X786 (3863 posts) -

wow :lol: i can't believe how sad some people here are lol

#75 Posted by TheWalkingGhost (5422 posts) -

wow :lol: i can't believe how sad some people here are lol

GrayF0X786
Sad because we answer an honest question? Ok........
#76 Posted by JigglyWiggly_ (23609 posts) -

wow :lol: i can't believe how sad some people here are lol

GrayF0X786
ot is ot full of emo scrubs
#77 Posted by pariah3 (1000 posts) -

You have to be the dumbest person in OT right now. That is the body, which is not the question.TheWalkingGhost

But what if the body and mind are one and the same at the molecular and atomic level? We don't know whether body and mind are truly seperate things because for all we know they could be one and the same at the molecular or atomic scale.

There was a thread about this in sci forums:

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?130712-Does-the-brain-really-quot-cause-quot-consciousness&highlight=physicalist

#78 Posted by TheWalkingGhost (5422 posts) -

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]You have to be the dumbest person in OT right now. That is the body, which is not the question.pariah3

But what if the body and mind are one and the same at the molecular and atomic level? We don't know whether body and mind are truly seperate thingsp because for all we know they could be one and the same at the molecular or atomic scale.

There was a thread about this in sci forums:

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?130712-Does-the-brain-really-quot-cause-quot-consciousness&highlight=physicalist

Exactly. We don't know, and it doesn't seem like we ever really will. Right now, death is the ultimate mystery we won't know all the answers to until we die...And as the saying goes, dead men tell no tales.
#79 Posted by Omega-316 (787 posts) -

Nobody knows. Nobody will ever know. The only ones that do know are the ones that are already dead...

There could be heaven and hell, there could be reincarnation, or maybe the after life is just one big DMT trip, or it simply really is the end. Or what ever the after life is, is too complex and alien for our tiny minds to even comprehend. We probably wont even understand it even if it hits us in the face.

People will believe what they want. What ever helps them sleep at night. A time will come when we all find out the truth. But until then....

YOLO.

:P

#80 Posted by chaoscougar1 (36824 posts) -

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]You have to be the dumbest person in OT right now. That is the body, which is not the question.pariah3

But what if the body and mind are one and the same at the molecular and atomic level? We don't know whether body and mind are truly seperate things because for all we know they could be one and the same at the molecular or atomic scale.

There was a thread about this in sci forums:

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?130712-Does-the-brain-really-quot-cause-quot-consciousness&highlight=physicalist

It really doesn't have anything to do with our atomic structure
Its a philosophical concept for the most part

#81 Posted by sukraj (23060 posts) -

no life

#82 Posted by zenogandia (912 posts) -

I like the thought of being in heaven alongside the Christian God. Oh, what I would do to dance around with him and the millions of murderers that repented before they died. :cool:

#83 Posted by Rich3232 (2754 posts) -
I doubt it, but I'm still thinking about it. What amazes me, tho, is the fact that I'm alive now.
#84 Posted by PernicioEnigma (5388 posts) -

When you're dead, you're dead. Sleeping but never waking up

wis3boi
Pretty much. consciousnesses is the product of our brain, once our brain stops working there's no more consciousness. I do think death will be like a never ending deep sleep without the ability to dream.
#85 Posted by tenaka2 (17040 posts) -

You are your brain. Your personality, your memories, your thoughts, and everything else that defines you are products of your brain. So, once your brain ceases to function you cease to exist. Adios, amigo!

BluRayHiDef

Unless you consider the simulation theory in which case there is a possibility of life after death.

#86 Posted by Blue_Shield (2610 posts) -

You mean aside from being worm food?

Probably not.

#87 Posted by PernicioEnigma (5388 posts) -

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

You are your brain. Your personality, your memories, your thoughts, and everything else that defines you are products of your brain. So, once your brain ceases to function you cease to exist. Adios, amigo!

tenaka2

Unless you consider the simulation theory in which case there is a possibility of life after death.

That theory doesn't have much credibility, I wouldn't bet on it.
#88 Posted by SirWander (5176 posts) -

nope

#89 Posted by tenaka2 (17040 posts) -

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

You are your brain. Your personality, your memories, your thoughts, and everything else that defines you are products of your brain. So, once your brain ceases to function you cease to exist. Adios, amigo!

PernicioEnigma

Unless you consider the simulation theory in which case there is a possibility of life after death.

That theory doesn't have much credibility, I wouldn't bet on it.

 

Its reasonable enough.

http://www.simulation-argument.com/

ABSTRACT. This paper argues that at least one of the following propositions is true: (1) the human species is very likely to go extinct before reaching a posthuman stage; (2) any posthuman civilization is extremely unlikely to run a significant number of simulations of their evolutionary history (or variations thereof); (3) we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation. It follows that the belief that there is a significant chance that we will one day become posthumans who run ancestor-simulations is false, unless we are currently living in a simulation. A number of other consequences of this result are also discussed.

#90 Posted by Angie7F (1120 posts) -

No I dont think there is life after death.

But maybe I am just being hard on myself. I do think the concept is very comforting.

#91 Posted by Zeviander (9503 posts) -
that's way too simple to be true.GreekGameManiac
And that's exactly why it most likely is the case.
#92 Posted by BossPerson (9475 posts) -

I believe in reincarnation, so...

If you don't get reincarnated, is there such a thing as hell? No. After you die, that's it.

th3warr1or
Aren't you Jewish ?
#93 Posted by Dogswithguns (10786 posts) -
Who know?.. but I don't think so.
#94 Posted by bnarmz (1425 posts) -

imo and experinces life seems like a hugh class room. everyday we are tested through free will. our choices seem to grant us heaven and/or hell on Earth... so i suspect this place is a journey of some sought. Magnificant beings born to die, but why? its been said that we are falling angels sent here to re-learn responsibility. who really knows,especially when the dead tells no tales. that said, i liken death to dreaming...your mind ventures elsewhere except now its exposed to the full essense of the astral universe. so what ever energies you were used to dealing with in life will be experienced a whole lot more in death....because thats all you were used to dealing with. if we are only here for a minute...i rather spend it positive and fair. doaen't hurt at all being on the safe side...its actually benificial for self and others.

#95 Posted by lx_theo (6211 posts) -

No. That's why its called death.

#96 Posted by XDeSuEhTX (11191 posts) -

I think yes, there probably is. Not life in the sense of what we experience now, but we will never cease to exist. I think the paranormal is proof of a plain of existance after we die, I do believe the dead communicate with the lving. Nothing made of matter perishes, you cannot destroy an atom. Our minds and/or "spirits" are a collection of energy and that energy doesn't just vanish when we die, it obviously goes somewhere, becomes something else...

#97 Posted by MetalDogGear (806 posts) -

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

I believe in reincarnation, so...

If you don't get reincarnated, is there such a thing as hell? No. After you die, that's it.

BossPerson

Aren't you Jewish ?

 

Don't Jewish there was life after death?

#98 Posted by GameGuy642003 (1768 posts) -
Yes Sir. Only two places to dwell, heaven or hell.
#99 Posted by AdrianWerner (28058 posts) -

I'm convinced there is something after death. No idea what though.

#100 Posted by pariah3 (1000 posts) -

If our brain really does create our mind then life after death is impossible.

In Wikipedia they write:

Eternal oblivion, or simply oblivion, is the philosophical concept that the individual self "experiences" a state of permanent non-existence ("unconsciousness") after death. Belief in oblivion denies the belief that there is an afterlife (such as a Heaven, Purgatory or Hell), or any state of existence or consciousness after death.

The belief in "eternal oblivion" stems from the idea that the brain creates the mind; therefore, when the brain dies, the mind ceases to exist. Some reporters describe this state as "nothingness".[1][2]

Many people who believe in an eternal oblivion, believe that the concept of an afterlife is scientifically impossible. Such views are typically held by atheists.[3][4][5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_oblivion