Do you think America is an ageism country??

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#1 Posted by JapaneseLeader (196 posts) -

Do you think America is an ageism country??

It seems that this nation overprotect the rights of kids while it neglects so many needs of elders.

and elders who live in US tend to feel more depressed and disrespected that those who live in EAST ASIA.

#2 Posted by WestSideAzn (2218 posts) -
Well there is quite a disrespect for the elderly nowadays because, I don't know... we just take the elderly for granted, even though we are going to be like that one day...
#3 Posted by JapaneseLeader (196 posts) -
Well there is quite a disrespect for the elderly nowadays because, I don't know... we just take the elderly for granted, even though we are going to be like that one day...WestSideAzn
I know In Japan and China, young people respect elders a lot more... I just feel that old people deserve the same carings as other people... and I do not really understand why are Americans so caring to kids, which is the opposite way in Asia.
#4 Posted by ernie1989 (8547 posts) -
Yeah, I wouldn't know much about that type of stuff. I usually live under a rock long enough to miss the poor treatment to the old if there ever is any around here. I know I haven't done anything to my grandparents. That's because I barely even saw them.
#5 Posted by JapaneseLeader (196 posts) -
Yeah, I wouldn't know much about that type of stuff. I usually live under a rock long enough to miss the poor treatment to the old if there ever is any around here. I know I haven't done anything to my grandparents. That's because I barely even saw them.ernie1989
May I know your race? However, in Japan, it is very important to respect elders. If a young person does not show respect to the elders, that person will be rebelled to death
#6 Posted by rimnet00 (11003 posts) -
My high school history teacher brought this very point up a few years back. I think there is a lot of truth to it. We tend to neglect the old thinking they are no use to society anymore, when in reality they hold the wisdom of the generations they lived through. Its unfortunate indeed.
#7 Posted by JapaneseLeader (196 posts) -
My high school history teacher brought this very point up a few years back. I think there is a lot of truth to it. We tend to neglect the old thinking they are no use to society anymore, when in reality they hold the wisdom of the generations they lived through. Its unfortunate indeed. rimnet00
Yes, American is probably the most ageism country in the world while Japan/China is probably the countries where insist "older-is-better" in the world.... It clearly explains why Chinese and Japanese have longer lifespans than US since US people r so virulent to senior citizens.
#8 Posted by rimnet00 (11003 posts) -
I would also like to add that it may be due to our view on our 'heroes'. Heroes in today's society for many youth is based on superficial and indestructible demi-gods, all of whom are portrayed to be young. Whether it is a current basketball player or the latest music artist. I think people tend to forget those who have done so much to bring us where we are today. This is a mentality I can't reality pinpoint the origin of, while at the same time acknowledging that the old are looked as nothing more then brittle and 'stupid' due to their age.
#9 Posted by JapaneseLeader (196 posts) -
I would also like to add that it may be due to our view on our 'heroes'. Heroes in today's society for many youth is based on superficial and indestructible demi-gods, all of whom are portrayed to be young. Whether it is a current basketball player or the latest music artist. I think people tend to forget those who have done so much to bring us where we are today. This is a mentality I can't reality pinpoint the origin of, while at the same time acknowledging that the old are looked as nothing more then brittle and 'stupid' due to their age.rimnet00
See, that is the main cultural difference Most heroes or idols in America are set to be 28 years old or younger; meanwhile, most heroes in Japan and China r portraited to be middle-aged with so many years of experience.
#10 Posted by ernie1989 (8547 posts) -
Yeah, I wouldn't know much about that type of stuff. I usually live under a rock long enough to miss the poor treatment to the old if there ever is any around here. I know I haven't done anything to my grandparents. That's because I barely even saw them.ernie1989


Half White and half Mexican. Don't know which specific country my grandfather's ancestors were from so I can't really be more specific than white. Maybe saying that my grandfather was an all american type of guy might help out.
#11 Posted by JapaneseLeader (196 posts) -
[QUOTE="ernie1989"]Yeah, I wouldn't know much about that type of stuff. I usually live under a rock long enough to miss the poor treatment to the old if there ever is any around here. I know I haven't done anything to my grandparents. That's because I barely even saw them.ernie1989


Half White and half Mexican. Don't know which specific country my grandfather's ancestors were from so I can't really be more specific than white. Maybe saying that my grandfather was an all american type of guy might help out.

Not trying to flatter ur race but how come I feel Mexicans are much kinder to Chinese/Japanese than whites? Plus, I feel that most mexicans r respective to their elders.
#12 Posted by ernie1989 (8547 posts) -
[QUOTE="ernie1989"][QUOTE="ernie1989"]Yeah, I wouldn't know much about that type of stuff. I usually live under a rock long enough to miss the poor treatment to the old if there ever is any around here. I know I haven't done anything to my grandparents. That's because I barely even saw them.JapaneseLeader


Half White and half Mexican. Don't know which specific country my grandfather's ancestors were from so I can't really be more specific than white. Maybe saying that my grandfather was an all american type of guy might help out.

Not trying to flatter ur race but how come I feel Mexicans are much kinder to Chinese/Japanese than whites? Plus, I feel that most mexicans r respective to their elders.



Well, during my lifetime I have never really witnessed a mexican and a chinese or japanese actually talk to eachother unless if it's in school. My dad does have students that are immigrants from China that go to Mexico and then come to the U.S. Most of them end up being trilingual, but I never really know how they were treated in Mexico. Yeah, I have no answer to your question except I have no idea.
#13 Posted by JapaneseLeader (196 posts) -
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#14 Posted by im_very_kind (411 posts) -

Do you think America is an ageism country??

It seems that this nation overprotect the rights of kids while it neglects so many needs of elders.

and elders who live in US tend to feel more depressed and disrespected that those who live in EAST ASIA.

JapaneseLeader
im pretty sick of hearing about all these isms. they have nursing homes, and a lot of elders are living with their children now. i dont see any ageism here, but i agree nursing homes are like a concentration camp with pills and sweaters.
#15 Posted by JapaneseLeader (196 posts) -
[QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"]

Do you think America is an ageism country??

It seems that this nation overprotect the rights of kids while it neglects so many needs of elders.

and elders who live in US tend to feel more depressed and disrespected that those who live in EAST ASIA.

im_very_kind
im pretty sick of hearing about all these isms. they have nursing homes, and a lot of elders are living with their children now. i dont see any ageism here, but i agree nursing homes are like a concentration camp with pills and sweaters.

I understand that they have DIY nursing homes; however, I see many elders do not have the same access as our youngsters to many programs in our nation... and many elders are not being treated as youngsters....that is very ageist~~~~~is that why elders die quickly in here?
#16 Posted by nohabs (10791 posts) -
Today's younger people are more into their own lives not their grandparents or parents. They don't have the time for them, why they might miss the Yoga class
#17 Posted by JapaneseLeader (196 posts) -
Today's younger people are more into their own lives not their grandparents or parents. They don't have the time for them, why they might miss the Yoga classnohabs
I am sure the modern elders are capabloe of taking care of themselves compared to the elders decades ago considering our medications have improved. However, I am talking about the social attitude toward elders.
#18 Posted by liquid_s (7159 posts) -
[QUOTE="nohabs"]Today's younger people are more into their own lives not their grandparents or parents. They don't have the time for them, why they might miss the Yoga classJapaneseLeader
I am sure the modern elders are capabloe of taking care of themselves compared to the elders decades ago considering our medications have improved. However, I am talking about the social attitude toward elders.

I know what you mean, people kind of, like, just dont bother with them, or respect them. I see it a few times, but i always keep in contact with my Gran. Also Grandparents are better than parents, they give give you stuff for no reason
#19 Posted by JapaneseLeader (196 posts) -
[QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"][QUOTE="nohabs"]Today's younger people are more into their own lives not their grandparents or parents. They don't have the time for them, why they might miss the Yoga classliquid_s
I am sure the modern elders are capabloe of taking care of themselves compared to the elders decades ago considering our medications have improved. However, I am talking about the social attitude toward elders.

I know what you mean, people kind of, like, just dont bother with them, or respect them. I see it a few times, but i always keep in contact with my Gran. Also Grandparents are better than parents, they give give you stuff for no reason

And I can tell you that 99% of Asians coming from Japan and Taiwan have strong respects toward elders than other races.
#20 Posted by ChevelleFan (1783 posts) -

[QUOTE="WestSideAzn"]Well there is quite a disrespect for the elderly nowadays because, I don't know... we just take the elderly for granted, even though we are going to be like that one day...JapaneseLeader
I know In Japan and China, young people respect elders a lot more... I just feel that old people deserve the same carings as other people... and I do not really understand why are Americans so caring to kids, which is the opposite way in Asia.

I agree, but children are the future and not the elderly.

#21 Posted by guthwulf_de (13208 posts) -
I respect my elders, but old people in general annoy me.
#22 Posted by JapaneseLeader (196 posts) -
I respect my elders, but old people in general annoy me.guthwulf_de
What did they do that annoyed you? And my regard to another poster, I do not care who are the future, I care about the proper attitude. It makes me feel you are one of those ageist people
#23 Posted by guthwulf_de (13208 posts) -
[QUOTE="guthwulf_de"]I respect my elders, but old people in general annoy me.JapaneseLeader
What did they do that annoyed you? And my regard to another poster, I do not care who are the future, I care about the proper attitude. It makes me feel you are one of those ageist people



They drive slowly on the streets.
#24 Posted by nohabs (10791 posts) -

[QUOTE="nohabs"]Today's younger people are more into their own lives not their grandparents or parents. They don't have the time for them, why they might miss the Yoga classJapaneseLeader
I am sure the modern elders are capabloe of taking care of themselves compared to the elders decades ago considering our medications have improved. However, I am talking about the social attitude toward elders.

That's what I was implying. I visit my wife's parents at the nursing home and you would be amazed how many old folks are left there  without any family visitors

#25 Posted by JapaneseLeader (196 posts) -

[QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"][QUOTE="nohabs"]Today's younger people are more into their own lives not their grandparents or parents. They don't have the time for them, why they might miss the Yoga classnohabs

I am sure the modern elders are capabloe of taking care of themselves compared to the elders decades ago considering our medications have improved. However, I am talking about the social attitude toward elders.

That's what I was implying. I visit my wife's parents at the nursing home and you would be amazed how many old folks are left there  without any family visitors

First of all, it is always better to drive slowly on the streets. Now my response to your comment: Are you saying your wife rarely looks after her parents that she just ignores them in their home?
#26 Posted by yoshi-lnex (5442 posts) -
Good points op, I agree, socioty as a whole should pay more attention to elders.
#27 Posted by JapaneseLeader (196 posts) -
Good points op, I agree, socioty as a whole should pay more attention to elders.yoshi-lnex
There are only 2 countries that really put a lot of efforts on helping elders: Singapore and Japan.... and I rather be in a place where is made up of elder populations.
#28 Posted by nohabs (10791 posts) -
[QUOTE="nohabs"]

[QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"][QUOTE="nohabs"]Today's younger people are more into their own lives not their grandparents or parents. They don't have the time for them, why they might miss the Yoga classJapaneseLeader

I am sure the modern elders are capabloe of taking care of themselves compared to the elders decades ago considering our medications have improved. However, I am talking about the social attitude toward elders.

That's what I was implying. I visit my wife's parents at the nursing home and you would be amazed how many old folks are left there  without any family visitors

First of all, it is always better to drive slowly on the streets. Now my response to your comment: Are you saying your wife rarely looks after her parents that she just ignores them in their home?

No She visits them all the time. The other people that live there get no visitors, it's really sad to see

#29 Posted by yoshi-lnex (5442 posts) -
[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]Good points op, I agree, socioty as a whole should pay more attention to elders.JapaneseLeader
There are only 2 countries that really put a lot of efforts on helping elders: Singapore and Japan.... and I rather be in a place where is made up of elder populations.

Eastern countrys in general respect elders alot, this is primarily becouse of the most influential man to the region, the great philosopher confucious who stressed the importance of certain relationships in socioty, and respect towards elders was one of them....
#30 Posted by JapaneseLeader (196 posts) -
[QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"][QUOTE="nohabs"]

[QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"][QUOTE="nohabs"]Today's younger people are more into their own lives not their grandparents or parents. They don't have the time for them, why they might miss the Yoga classnohabs

I am sure the modern elders are capabloe of taking care of themselves compared to the elders decades ago considering our medications have improved. However, I am talking about the social attitude toward elders.

That's what I was implying. I visit my wife's parents at the nursing home and you would be amazed how many old folks are left there  without any family visitors

First of all, it is always better to drive slowly on the streets. Now my response to your comment: Are you saying your wife rarely looks after her parents that she just ignores them in their home?

No She visits them all the time. The other people that live there get no visitors, it's really sad to see

I guess the place where your wife's parents reside must be a suburb place, right?
#31 Posted by JapaneseLeader (196 posts) -
[QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]Good points op, I agree, socioty as a whole should pay more attention to elders.yoshi-lnex
There are only 2 countries that really put a lot of efforts on helping elders: Singapore and Japan.... and I rather be in a place where is made up of elder populations.

Eastern countrys in general respect elders alot, this is primarily becouse of the most influential man to the region, the great philosopher confucious who stressed the importance of certain relationships in socioty, and respect towards elders was one of them....

Which most Americans lack. Sad but true
#32 Posted by Bourbons3 (24248 posts) -
Probably none moreso than many other countries...
#33 Posted by nohabs (10791 posts) -

No She visits them all the time. The other people that live there get no visitors, it's really sad to see

I guess the place where your wife's parents reside must be a suburb place, right?

Well it's right on the edge of the city. But most of the nursing homes are in the suburbs, at least here.

#34 Posted by yoshi-lnex (5442 posts) -
[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]Good points op, I agree, socioty as a whole should pay more attention to elders.JapaneseLeader
There are only 2 countries that really put a lot of efforts on helping elders: Singapore and Japan.... and I rather be in a place where is made up of elder populations.

Eastern countrys in general respect elders alot, this is primarily becouse of the most influential man to the region, the great philosopher confucious who stressed the importance of certain relationships in socioty, and respect towards elders was one of them....

Which most Americans lack. Sad but true

Yeah.....it'll probably get better though as socioty develops a bit more.....
#35 Posted by guthwulf_de (13208 posts) -
[QUOTE="JapaneseLeader"] First of all, it is always better to drive slowly on the streets.

Depends on how much time you have.
#36 Posted by JapaneseLeader (196 posts) -
I don't know if this is true, I find that Mexican people r much more respective to their elders than whitez?
#37 Posted by yoshi-lnex (5442 posts) -
I don't know if this is true, I find that Mexican people r much more respective to their elders than whitez?JapaneseLeader
Maybe, they are more respectful of the deceased for cultural reasons.....
#38 Posted by OODALOOP (36349 posts) -
Haha..no. You're quite mistaken. We're a very older generation oriented society. The greatest part of our population, the babyboomers, are all reaching the retirement age. They are also the most active and largest voting block. They control the wealth and political power in the country. In large, our society panders to them.
#39 Posted by jointed (16719 posts) -

Neither America or Europe are ageistic in their belifes....

It also happends to be that Japan and other eastern countries have VERY many prejudices against the west....I love japan and I find it sad....