Do you agree with "For The Greater Good" ?

topic^^ one example is :when in the old days alot of people were sacrificed for building something..creating something..and they all perished for that "thing" to be built/created..some people say it was for the greater good ..it made our life easier

so do you agree with this saying: For The Greater Good ..

Depends entirely on what is perceived as the "greater good".....LJS9502_basic

It depends what is the greater good and what is being given for it.

If it wasn't for that mentality then we wouldn't have the things we take for granted today. So yes.

No. If somebody wants to do something that they consider to be for the "greater good", then they are free to do that. But forcing a group of people to either partake in something or sacrifice something against their will...no. If people are not acting on their own intuition to solve a problem, then it's obviously not immediate enough. When something truly needs to be fixed, people will step up of their own accord.

But it also depends on the situation.

It depends what is the greater good and what is being given for it.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Depends entirely on what is perceived as the "greater good".....Blitz_Nemesis

Depends entirely on what is perceived as the "greater good".....LJS9502_basic

well i thought of this after my teacher was talking about how so many people from china were forced to work for canada to build the railway.and so many died in building it

Sometimes. But overall, it's for your own personal desires, the death penalty isn't for the greater good for example, it's so you can feel better that the person that killed your family member was killed as well.wemhim

The death penalty has been deemed the most effective way of permanently removing murderous criminals from society, and it is for the greater good.

[QUOTE="wemhim"]Sometimes. But overall, it's for your own personal desires, the death penalty isn't for the greater good for example, it's so you can feel better that the person that killed your family member was killed as well.Rhythmic_

The death penalty has been deemed the most effective way of permanently removing murderous criminals from society, and it is for the greater good.

what about life in prison?

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[QUOTE="wemhim"]Sometimes. But overall, it's for your own personal desires, the death penalty isn't for the greater good for example, it's so you can feel better that the person that killed your family member was killed as well.kirk4ever

The death penalty has been deemed the most effective way of permanently removing murderous criminals from society, and it is for the greater good.

what about life in prison?

There's probability of escape, communication with the outside world, and even parole in some murder cases. Our justice system is so screwed up, offing them is a lot more reliable.

[QUOTE="kirk4ever"][QUOTE="Rhythmic_"]

[QUOTE="wemhim"]Sometimes. But overall, it's for your own personal desires, the death penalty isn't for the greater good for example, it's so you can feel better that the person that killed your family member was killed as well.Rhythmic_

The death penalty has been deemed the most effective way of permanently removing murderous criminals from society, and it is for the greater good.

what about life in prison?

There's probability of escape, communication with the outside world, and even parole in some murder cases. Our justice system is so screwed up, offing them is a lot more reliable.

[QUOTE="Rhythmic_"][QUOTE="kirk4ever"][QUOTE="Rhythmic_"]

[QUOTE="wemhim"]Sometimes. But overall, it's for your own personal desires, the death penalty isn't for the greater good for example, it's so you can feel better that the person that killed your family member was killed as well.wemhim

The death penalty has been deemed the most effective way of permanently removing murderous criminals from society, and it is for the greater good.

what about life in prison?

There's probability of escape, communication with the outside world, and even parole in some murder cases. Our justice system is so screwed up, offing them is a lot more reliable.

It's all been tried before. There's an element of human error there that isn't a concern when you implement the death penalty.

The greater good can be any number of things. The greater good could be killing all of those who do not follow your ideology, or have a differing view of your ideology. Perfect example, the Red Guards during Mao's Cultural Revolution. There were two factions of Red Guards, one of peasants and soldiers (the Reds) and one of landowners and upper class (the Blacks). Both sides bickered over who was right and they beat, tortured, and even killed other members of the Red Guard because both sides had different ideas for the Greater Good proposed by Mao.

Then again, this all ties into The Lucifer Principle. Nature is a malevolent being and in modern humans uses replicators called memes (or ideas) and mankind in pursuit of the greater good actually pursues the greater evil.

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if one person dies to save ten people, and it was their choice, they're dying for the greater good, so hurrah.

but if those ten people all wish they had died instead of that one person

then it's not for the greater good. this isn't that complicated.

if one person dies to save ten people, and it was their choice, they're dying for the greater good, so hurrah.

but if those ten people all wish they had died instead of that one person

then it's not for the greater good. this isn't that complicated.

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The logic is undeniable :|

"for the greater good" is a statement which can be used by any terrorist or any corrupt government, when jfk was assassinated the people who did it would say they did it for "the greater good" when a criminal is killed while going to prison by a grieving parent or by someone on the inside they do it "for the greater good" its a good idea in concept but in todays society....it does not exsist, it is but a idea, it is the holy grail of morality always in front of us but never in our grasp, so i cannt agree with something which will only ever be a conceptunreal48

good point..although it truly exists in some humans who have sacrifices themselves for others to survive ala"the greater good"

[QUOTE="unreal48"]"for the greater good" is a statement which can be used by any terrorist or any corrupt government, when jfk was assassinated the people who did it would say they did it for "the greater good" when a criminal is killed while going to prison by a grieving parent or by someone on the inside they do it "for the greater good" its a good idea in concept but in todays society....it does not exsist, it is but a idea, it is the holy grail of morality always in front of us but never in our grasp, so i cannt agree with something which will only ever be a conceptkirk4ever

good point..although it truly exists in some humans who have sacrifices themselves for others to survive ala"the greater good"

Depends entirely on what is perceived as the "greater good".....LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="unreal48"]"for the greater good" is a statement which can be used by any terrorist or any corrupt government, when jfk was assassinated the people who did it would say they did it for "the greater good" when a criminal is killed while going to prison by a grieving parent or by someone on the inside they do it "for the greater good" its a good idea in concept but in todays society....it does not exsist, it is but a idea, it is the holy grail of morality always in front of us but never in our grasp, so i cannt agree with something which will only ever be a conceptkirk4ever

good point..although it truly exists in some humans who have sacrifices themselves for others to survive ala"the greater good"

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[QUOTE="unreal48"]"for the greater good" is a statement which can be used by any terrorist or any corrupt government, when jfk was assassinated the people who did it would say they did it for "the greater good" when a criminal is killed while going to prison by a grieving parent or by someone on the inside they do it "for the greater good" its a good idea in concept but in todays society....it does not exsist, it is but a idea, it is the holy grail of morality always in front of us but never in our grasp, so i cannt agree with something which will only ever be a conceptCptJSparrow

good point..although it truly exists in some humans who have sacrifices themselves for others to survive ala"the greater good"

how exactly would you define a "great person"?

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"] I would like for humans to sacrifice themselves for a great person, not for the greater good: it is the quality of humanity that we should attempt to increase, not the quantity.kirk4ever

how exactly would you define a "great person"?

[QUOTE="kirk4ever"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"] I would like for humans to sacrifice themselves for a great person, not for the greater good: it is the quality of humanity that we should attempt to increase, not the quantity.CptJSparrow

how exactly would you define a "great person"?

aaa..:P nice :)