demand better affordable internet and online gaming in US

#1 Edited by therealone717 (11 posts) -

Comcast has become the enemy of progress, innovation, widely available broadband internet in the US. If you want to live in a US that has widely available broadband internet access as much of the rest of the world does, you must use your voice in saying no to Comcast's greed based monopoly in the US whenever and where ever possible. Ultimately Comcast really is killing itself by choking off it's own customers to the point where the internet is not only unaffordable to the average citizen, it is useless as well. Comcast needs to be broken up big time. There is no better example of a greedy too big to fail company that is now getting in the way of progress and hurting growth in many areas of the US as a result of it. The arrogance of this company is only equaled by it's stupidity and greed. When the word "LIMITS" or LIMITATIONS are used in the name of progress, you can safely assume that greed, corruption and lies are at the roots of it. Comcast executive David Cohen needs to shut his fat f'ng face up. Demand better internet options in America and by proxy better gaming too.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/05/15/technology/comcast-data-limits/index.html

Comcast absolutely does NOT have the best interests of Americans in mind with their monopolistic control and power grab and they have proven this to be true many times already in their actions with what power they already have. They cannot be trusted to improve anything in Americas infrastructure. The irony of it all is that they are actually making less money than they could be overall by continuing to price a large percentage of people off of broadband internet access. Bottom line is: One company, especially as dumb as Comcast continues to be, should not control the majority of gateways to the internet in America. The results will, and continue to be, a move in the wrong direction.

-end rant-

Thanks for reading.

#2 Posted by Brain_Duster (404 posts) -

@therealone717 said:

Thanks for reading.

But I didn't.

#3 Posted by therealone717 (11 posts) -

@Brain_Duster: well you should of :) break up the gatekeepers now, or regret it later. http://breakupattverizoncomcast.com/

#4 Posted by RadecSupreme (4666 posts) -

Comcast is complete shit. i remember we had 16 Mps speed which cost around 40 USD and it was complete shit. Unstable as hell always collapsing at certain points and speed never even reached 2 mps when downloading. Literally the worst. Definitely not worth it.

#5 Posted by jasean79 (2374 posts) -

Maybe you should start a petition and get people to sign up for your "cause".

#6 Edited by Horgen (110121 posts) -

Did you expect anything else? A company which basically has monopoly will innovate very little, milk customers and use as little as possible.

#7 Edited by mattykovax (22693 posts) -

And with the possible coming death of Net Neutrality the reigns will be handed to companies like that so good luck avoiding it. Also remember the government is lousy with "former" Comcast reps and lobbyists.....

#8 Edited by lamprey263 (23911 posts) -

It's simple, Comcast is a telecom, they control internet, cable TV, and phone services. To prevent people from making their cable TV obsolete by subscribing to IPTV type services, they limit peoples bandwidth, and then they tie the knot by making you bundle high speed internet with cable TV to make your expensive internet service slightly more affordable.

Frankly, consumers probably need to make this an issue with whatever consumer protection groups are out there. But I doubt that will amount to anything. What really needs to be done is companies like Microsoft, Sony, Google, Apple, anybody that wants to create a robust set top box service device for consumers, they need to band together to push for better and cheaper consumer bandwidth so that their products can flourish, and they need to push for antitrust lawsuits against telecoms.

Funny thing is though, I read an article a while back that Comcast claims they currently have the infrastructure in place to handle competition if Google Fiber should expand in their territory, and they even said they can provide greater bandwidth if that should happen. So that means Comcast at any time could provide up 1 gigabit/sec bandwidths, if they wanted. When asked why Comcast doesn't offer higher speeds in many areas their excuse is that there's no consumer demand for it. Of course, that's bullshit, they know they're protecting their cable TV arm of business, once affordable 1 terabit/sec speeds are a common place then cable TV is gone.

#9 Posted by mattykovax (22693 posts) -

@lamprey263:

Wish there was a thumbs up button, this comment pretty much nails the whole issue right on the head.

#10 Edited by AutoPilotOn (8503 posts) -

I just wish data cap were gone. I hate being under a 150gb. It goes faster than u think if u stream and download next gen games. I can't complain about my speed even though it's only 15 or 10mbps it seems fast to me.

#11 Edited by Dogswithguns (10764 posts) -

I cut my rip-off Comcast for over 3 years now, and never looked back.. got At&t and that is slow. lol.. but it's not expensive so Im cool with that, for now.

#12 Posted by AutoPilotOn (8503 posts) -

What sucks is u can't shop around for service. It's whatever cable company they designate to you. Remind me of that South Park episode lol

#13 Edited by TruthTellers (3397 posts) -

@lamprey263:

Yeah, Comcast is a terrible mega corporation that tries to screw everyone six ways from Sunday.

I had a choice a few years ago between Comcast cable and the local DSL company and I'm glad I went with my local company at the time. Comcast is trash and their customer service is too. I have FIOS now and I've never had a problem with it. I recommend everyone take a look at Verizon's terrific service and see if they can budget for it. You will not be disappointed. As for everyone who lives in the Midwest... LOL.

@mattykovax:

Yeah, Lamespot got rid of the like/dislike button about 2 years ago then moved on to destroy the entire layout the following year.

#14 Posted by TruthTellers (3397 posts) -
@therealone717 said:

Comcast absolutely does NOT have the best interests of Americans in mind with their monopolistic control and power grab and they have proven this to be true many times already in their actions with what power they already have. They cannot be trusted to improve anything in Americas infrastructure. The irony of it all is that they are actually making less money than they could be overall by continuing to price a large percentage of people off of broadband internet access. Bottom line is: One company, especially as dumb as Comcast continues to be, should not control the majority of gateways to the internet in America. The results will, and continue to be, a move in the wrong direction.

You do know that China bought a huge stake in Comcast about 5 years ago right? I don't think China really gives a chopstick about improving America's infrastructure.

#15 Edited by therealone717 (11 posts) -

@lamprey263 said:

It's simple, Comcast is a telecom, they control internet, cable TV, and phone services. To prevent people from making their cable TV obsolete by subscribing to IPTV type services, they limit peoples bandwidth, and then they tie the knot by making you bundle high speed internet with cable TV to make your expensive internet service slightly more affordable.

Frankly, consumers probably need to make this an issue with whatever consumer protection groups are out there. But I doubt that will amount to anything. What really needs to be done is companies like Microsoft, Sony, Google, Apple, anybody that wants to create a robust set top box service device for consumers, they need to band together to push for better and cheaper consumer bandwidth so that their products can flourish, and they need to push for antitrust lawsuits against telecoms.

Funny thing is though, I read an article a while back that Comcast claims they currently have the infrastructure in place to handle competition if Google Fiber should expand in their territory, and they even said they can provide greater bandwidth if that should happen. So that means Comcast at any time could provide up 1 gigabit/sec bandwidths, if they wanted. When asked why Comcast doesn't offer higher speeds in many areas their excuse is that there's no consumer demand for it. Of course, that's bullshit, they know they're protecting their cable TV arm of business, once affordable 1 terabit/sec speeds are a common place then cable TV is gone.

That is exactly right on! I agree, I think other big companies need to see more urgency in the fact that some of their biggest business interests are going to be dependent on good infrastructure for internet and that it is in their best interests to start pushing back on companies like Comcast who clearly do not care at all about that infrastructure supporting those businesses to their full potential. Those bigger companies you noted would be a nice big boot to use to kick Comcast's butt in gear or kick them out of the way. But yeah, they most definitely can offer people more for less and then some but clearly have chosen the bare minimum and serve up whatever scraps of service they feel like at whatever price they want. Consumers definitely need to step up too. I don't think people and businesses realize how big this potential problem is because things have been the same for so long, no one realizes how much they've been screwed over compared to how things "could" be by now and in the future. People seem to say "things could be worse" way too often in Merica rather than saying things could (and should) be better. Take Sony and Microsoft for example with the Xbox One and PS4... their business growth potential is massive in the US compared to what exists now on infrastructure numbers alone.

#16 Edited by EPICCOMMANDER (550 posts) -

As soon as Google Fibre expands to where I live (I live near Kansas City) I'm buying that and trashing my old service.

#17 Edited by therealone717 (11 posts) -

Another great example of Comcast's lazy greed: Why is HD television still a premium? Think about it. Only HDTV's are sold in stores now, bandwidth has been cleared and added to allow for HD only television and yet Comcast only offers HD TV as a "premium" that you have to pay extra to get for most cable channels and even some typically free networks! This is Comcast's typical behavior in how they treat and view customers- as only a revenue source to be conquered and exploited. It's underhanded and wrong. But they will continue to get away with this kind of thing until they are forced or shamed to stop, just like most Corporations today. The exception to television watching today should be standard def not HD for those few people that still have and use standard def televisions not the other way around. This is progress? lol. This is Comcast's version of progress which is akin to hording service potential from the country for a ransom. Doing the basic math Comcast is actually getting in the way of progress, not advancing it. It shouldn't be too surprising considering their motives are questionable at best and transparently greed based.

#18 Edited by MakeMeaSammitch (3888 posts) -

Do what I do and don't get cable. Just get everything illegally via internets.

#19 Posted by Netret0120 (2150 posts) -

FirstWorldProblems. People wonder where their next meal is coming from and we can bitch about teh internetz:-P USA!!!

#20 Edited by therealone717 (11 posts) -

@Netret0120:

Of course it's a first world problem.. who cares. it's still a problem. there are a lot of problems in the world. pick one and do something about it. doing nothing won't help anyone.

To all cord cutters: Here is a small gift from Microsoft: http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/05/17/microsoft-just-made-the-xbox-360-an-attractive-alt.aspx

#21 Posted by therealone717 (11 posts) -

For Cord Cutters: Microsoft XBox helps out Cord Cutters

#22 Edited by AutoPilotOn (8503 posts) -

@therealone717: I wanted to try and not pay for cable tv. But with streaming fees and data usage over cap it was the same or more than just paying for tv

#23 Edited by therealone717 (11 posts) -

@AutoPilotOn: It is very difficult. Overcoming problems like this usually are. Good for you for at least trying to affect some change. I will continue to do so myself whenever and wherever possible. In the wise words of Mahatma Gandhi: "Be the change that you wish to see in the world"

#24 Edited by BossPerson (9469 posts) -

@Netret0120 said:

FirstWorldProblems. People wonder where their next meal is coming from and we can bitch about teh internetz:-P USA!!!

dont let the good be the enemy of the perfect

#25 Edited by whipassmt (14028 posts) -

@lamprey263 said:

It's simple, Comcast is a telecom, they control internet, cable TV, and phone services. To prevent people from making their cable TV obsolete by subscribing to IPTV type services, they limit peoples bandwidth, and then they tie the knot by making you bundle high speed internet with cable TV to make your expensive internet service slightly more affordable.

Frankly, consumers probably need to make this an issue with whatever consumer protection groups are out there. But I doubt that will amount to anything. What really needs to be done is companies like Microsoft, Sony, Google, Apple, anybody that wants to create a robust set top box service device for consumers, they need to band together to push for better and cheaper consumer bandwidth so that their products can flourish, and they need to push for antitrust lawsuits against telecoms.

Funny thing is though, I read an article a while back that Comcast claims they currently have the infrastructure in place to handle competition if Google Fiber should expand in their territory, and they even said they can provide greater bandwidth if that should happen. So that means Comcast at any time could provide up 1 gigabit/sec bandwidths, if they wanted. When asked why Comcast doesn't offer higher speeds in many areas their excuse is that there's no consumer demand for it. Of course, that's bullshit, they know they're protecting their cable TV arm of business, once affordable 1 terabit/sec speeds are a common place then cable TV is gone.

I like cable tv though, I don't want to see it go away and get stuck having to watch tv through my computer. What a bore!

#26 Edited by whipassmt (14028 posts) -

what is progress?

#27 Edited by themajormayor (25791 posts) -

@Brain_Duster said:

@therealone717 said:

Thanks for reading.

But I didn't.

#28 Edited by lamprey263 (23911 posts) -

@whipassmt said:

@lamprey263 said:

It's simple, Comcast is a telecom, they control internet, cable TV, and phone services. To prevent people from making their cable TV obsolete by subscribing to IPTV type services, they limit peoples bandwidth, and then they tie the knot by making you bundle high speed internet with cable TV to make your expensive internet service slightly more affordable.

Frankly, consumers probably need to make this an issue with whatever consumer protection groups are out there. But I doubt that will amount to anything. What really needs to be done is companies like Microsoft, Sony, Google, Apple, anybody that wants to create a robust set top box service device for consumers, they need to band together to push for better and cheaper consumer bandwidth so that their products can flourish, and they need to push for antitrust lawsuits against telecoms.

Funny thing is though, I read an article a while back that Comcast claims they currently have the infrastructure in place to handle competition if Google Fiber should expand in their territory, and they even said they can provide greater bandwidth if that should happen. So that means Comcast at any time could provide up 1 gigabit/sec bandwidths, if they wanted. When asked why Comcast doesn't offer higher speeds in many areas their excuse is that there's no consumer demand for it. Of course, that's bullshit, they know they're protecting their cable TV arm of business, once affordable 1 terabit/sec speeds are a common place then cable TV is gone.

I like cable tv though, I don't want to see it go away and get stuck having to watch tv through my computer. What a bore!

you could watch it on a computer, or a set top box, or hell you can still get cable tv, but competition of the other mediums will drive the price down

#29 Edited by deeliman (2432 posts) -

You silly Americans with your crappy internet

#30 Posted by always_explicit (2893 posts) -

Internet speed is something that is improving at an alarming rate. Soon having a fast internet conncection will not be considered a luxury it will be considered the norm. As soon as it is the norm companies cannot charge a premium for their services. As frustrating as it must be its just a case of waiting. I live in the UK an suffered with awful companies offering poor service at high price for about 5 years. Now I get a leaflet through the door weekly from one company or another offering me the fastest connections, cable tv deals etc etc.

Sometimes its just a case of waiting for a service to turn into an expectation.

#31 Edited by jun_aka_pekto (16118 posts) -

@therealone717 said:

Comcast has become the enemy of progress, innovation, widely available broadband internet in the US. If you want to live in a US that has widely available broadband internet access as much of the rest of the world does, you must use your voice in saying no to Comcast's greed based monopoly in the US whenever and where ever possible. Ultimately Comcast really is killing itself by choking off it's own customers to the point where the internet is not only unaffordable to the average citizen, it is useless as well. Comcast needs to be broken up big time. There is no better example of a greedy too big to fail company that is now getting in the way of progress and hurting growth in many areas of the US as a result of it. The arrogance of this company is only equaled by it's stupidity and greed. When the word "LIMITS" or LIMITATIONS are used in the name of progress, you can safely assume that greed, corruption and lies are at the roots of it. Comcast executive David Cohen needs to shut his fat f'ng face up. Demand better internet options in America and by proxy better gaming too.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/05/15/technology/comcast-data-limits/index.html

Comcast absolutely does NOT have the best interests of Americans in mind with their monopolistic control and power grab and they have proven this to be true many times already in their actions with what power they already have. They cannot be trusted to improve anything in Americas infrastructure. The irony of it all is that they are actually making less money than they could be overall by continuing to price a large percentage of people off of broadband internet access. Bottom line is: One company, especially as dumb as Comcast continues to be, should not control the majority of gateways to the internet in America. The results will, and continue to be, a move in the wrong direction.

-end rant-

Thanks for reading.

Is Comcast the only ISP around? The US is hardly alone either. Europe also has its share of shitty ISPs. Also, Japan probably has the highest bandwidth per household anywhere. Yet, their cap limits are draconian. Plus, I can't even get free WiFi at the airports there. They're all for pay.

#32 Edited by EPICCOMMANDER (550 posts) -

Lol So I know this thread is old, but Comcast/Xfinity released a statement just this past day saying that their service offers, "No buffering when playing video games."

On a scale of 1-10 for how utterly ridiculous that claim is, that's pretty much a 10.