De Blasio to end horse drawn carriages in NYC

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#1 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Am I crazy for thinking NYC has actual issues to deal with? Or am I simply not progressive enough to hear the screams of these majestic beasts as they tug people around? These majestic beasts that get to be outdoors most of their day and are fed better than I am?

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#2 Master_Live
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God bless the liberals.

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#3 dave123321
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Actual issues?

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#4 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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@dave123321 said:

Actual issues?

You know, poverty, skyrocketing cost of living, stuff like that,

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#5 dave123321
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Do the horses have it good though. I think that's not so clear cut

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#6  Edited By dave123321
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@airshocker: does this get in the way of that or maybe the lack of focus on that is the issue?

Like the focus can be on those real issues while still dealing with less pressing issues but for whatever reason they don't

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#7  Edited By deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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@dave123321 said:

Do the horses have it good though. I think that's not so clear cut

I don't think they have it any worse than other service animals.

What I do know is that while there are people barely making ends meet in NYC not a single dime nor minute of time should be spent on shit like this.

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#8 dave123321
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I will have to look into this more

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DeBlasio's odd. New York City's abortion rate is twice as high as the rate for the country as a whole, yet he believes there is not sufficient "access" to abortion in New York so he is planning on providing "city sponsored" spaces to set up new abortion facilities, requiring doctors who train in city hospitals to be trained in how to perform abortions, and going after pro-life crisis pregnancy centers. 80% of New Yorkers do not share DeBlasio's odd belief about there being insufficient access to abortion in New York, and in fact 64% of New Yorkers believe that the city's abortion rate (41% of pregnancies end in abortion) is not too low, but rather it is too high.

DeBlasio spoke about bringing "fundamental progressive change" to NYC, but as Pope Francis says, there is nothing progressive about abortion.

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Worst Year Ever Confirmed.

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#11 MakeMeaSammitch
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So because there are big issues they shouldn't deal with the small ones?

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#12  Edited By SaintLeonidas
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They still have those?

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Awesome; enough horse meat burgers to go around!

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#14 StrifeDelivery
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Not certain why they would get rid of those. It would be one thing if the animals were being mistreated or overused, but if they are healthy, active animals being properly treated, then what exactly is the problem here?

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#15 cain006
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Ending it because they get in the way might have been slightly reasonable but this reason is just stupid.

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@MakeMeaSammitch said:

So because there are big issues they shouldn't deal with the small ones?

I don't think it's an issue, no.

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@SaintLeonidas said:

They still have those?


Only in central park.

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#18 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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@whipassmt: LOL

cry moar

also who the fvck cares what pope francis says when it comes to politics?

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#19 whipassmt
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@Aljosa23:

More people than care what Obama says.

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@whipassmt: In the US? I doubt it. Obama is the President so obviously more (in the US, in case you needed me to slow down for you) care about what he says than some old pedophile sympathizer.

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#21 whipassmt
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And Aljosa, you need to watch yo' mouth. Don't you be cussin' up in here!

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#22  Edited By whipassmt
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@Aljosa23 said:

@whipassmt: In the US? I doubt it. Obama is the President so obviously more (in the US, in case you needed me to slow down for you) care about what he says than some old pedophile sympathizer.

And people care what Obama says just because he's president? And Pope Francis isn't a "pedophile sympathizer".

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#23  Edited By deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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@whipassmt said:

@Aljosa23 said:

@whipassmt: In the US? I doubt it. Obama is the President so obviously more (in the US, in case you needed me to slow down for you) care about what he says than some old pedophile sympathizer.

And people care what Obama says just because he's president? And Pope Francis isn't a "pedophile sympathizer".

Yeah certainly. If Obama said he's canceling Obamacare or giving everyone free money, you wouldn't care? And Pope Francis certainly is. Until he does a lot to stamp out the rampant pedophilia in the Vatican, he's nothing but an accessory to the molestation of children in my eyes.

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#24 whipassmt
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well if Obama did cancel Obamacare that would be something.

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#25  Edited By dave123321
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Aljosas been deteriorating

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#26  Edited By whipassmt
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@dave123321 said:

Aljosas been deteriorating

maybe he in a bad mood 'cause he got gas pains.

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#27 limpbizkit818
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Well, that's one less bad smell in NYC

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The horses seem fine. Kind of a stupid thing to claim that they're being mistreated when the likely alternative for them if they're not put to work is being turned into "beef" sausages.

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"They constantly breathe exhaust while dodging dangerous traffic"

dodging traffic in central park?? what?

another wonderful tradition put to death buy bleeding heart idiots~

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@whipassmt said:

DeBlasio spoke about bringing "fundamental progressive change" to NYC, but as Pope Francis says, there is nothing progressive about abortion.

WOW the leader of the catholic church is against abortion!

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#31  Edited By Wilfred_Owen
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The only reasonable response to this would be to storm through his window on horse an carriage shouting obscenities.

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i like the pope

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#33 Serraph105
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I'm sorry to see De Blasio is doing anything at all. Government really shouldn't get involved in peoples lives. Cost of living is what it is in NYC, government officials shouldn't try to affect peoples wallets because the people know how to handle it better than they do.

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@airshocker said:

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Am I crazy for thinking NYC has actual issues to deal with? Or am I simply not progressive enough to hear the screams of these majestic beasts as they tug people around? These majestic beasts that get to be outdoors most of their day and are fed better than I am?

We should probably be drug testing them as well. Public employees after all.

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@whipassmt said:

DeBlasio's odd. New York City's abortion rate is twice as high as the rate for the country as a whole, yet he believes there is not sufficient "access" to abortion in New York so he is planning on providing "city sponsored" spaces to set up new abortion facilities, requiring doctors who train in city hospitals to be trained in how to perform abortions, and going after pro-life crisis pregnancy centers. 80% of New Yorkers do not share DeBlasio's odd belief about there being insufficient access to abortion in New York, and in fact 64% of New Yorkers believe that the city's abortion rate (41% of pregnancies end in abortion) is not too low, but rather it is too high.

DeBlasio spoke about bringing "fundamental progressive change" to NYC, but as Pope Francis says, there is nothing progressive about abortion.

No offense, but **** whatever the pope has to say.

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He'll probably try to best his defeated opponent in matters of idiotic pro-active laws. Goes to show it doesn't take a plutocrat mayor to exhibit elitist behaviour.

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#38  Edited By TacticalDesire
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If the horses are actually suffering and the treatment is inhumane then I say end it by all means. Clearly it is not a particularly difficult or time-consuming decision.

Not being able to solve everything is not a good reason to not solve anything.

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#39  Edited By TacticalDesire
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Having said that, I think there's definitely some sentimental value to the horses and I could see why many would not want them to go.

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#41 Shmiity
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@airshocker: Exactly. Why are we mucking around with horse-drawn carriages when there are bigger problems? Poverty? Drugs? Hunger? Living costs? This is stupid. Let the people have damn carriage rides. This sounds like some Bloomberg shit again. "LETS BAN COKE PRODUCTS" Is his top priority? Banning soft drinks? Get the f*ck out of here.

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@Shmiity: I agree. We should focus all of our efforts on the single most important problem in the world, and then not deal with any other problems until that problem has been solved.

Once we have accomplished that, then we can move on to the second most important problem in the world. This stuff must be done sequentially. It is wrong to address any problems while there is still a more pressing problem that has not been solved.

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@MrGeezer said:

@Shmiity: I agree. We should focus all of our efforts on the single most important problem in the world, and then not deal with any other problems until that problem has been solved.

Once we have accomplished that, then we can move on to the second most important problem in the world. This stuff must be done sequentially. It is wrong to address any problems while there is still a more pressing problem that has not been solved.

lol. Well said.

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#44 comp_atkins
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saw that yesterday.. seems kinda silly to me..

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#45 themajormayor
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This is city is like 100000 km away. Who gives a shit?

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#46  Edited By Brain_Duster
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Good. Less dumb ugly horses to look at.

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#47  Edited By coolbeans90
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Since one, theoretically, can walk AND chew gum simultaneously, I understand how the argument that we, as a society, should attempt to address a multitude of problems simultaneously is convincing to many. That said, I find this to be a poor justification to solve non-problems.

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@MrGeezer said:

@Shmiity: I agree. We should focus all of our efforts on the single most important problem in the world, and then not deal with any other problems until that problem has been solved.

Once we have accomplished that, then we can move on to the second most important problem in the world. This stuff must be done sequentially. It is wrong to address any problems while there is still a more pressing problem that has not been solved.

I think he's of the opinion that this is a non-issue that doesn't even warrant attention when there are other things that we need to focus on. So this whole focus on one thing bullshit is something you concocted, not him.

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#49 Shmiity
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@airshocker: Airshocker is correct. My actual opinion: Why are we worrying about horses when NYC has so many god damn problems.

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#50  Edited By MrGeezer
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@airshocker: If it doesn't warrant attention, then it doesn't matter whether or not there are more important things to focus on. The fact that there are more important things to focus on has literally nothing to do with the main premise, so why even mention it?