Congressman calls evolution a lie from the "pit of hell"

Also, I'm sure that this congressman is laughing all the way to the bank. Either way, he's made, probably smarter than a lot of people here, and a congressman.

brucewayne69

Being a creationist puts you at the bottom of the pole in terms of intelligence? brucewayne69

[QUOTE="brucewayne69"]Being a creationist puts you at the bottom of the pole in terms of intelligence? Zeviander

I think at least colloquially creationist and young earth creationist are used interchangeably aren't they? Actually I've never heard creationism used to refer to anything besides young earth creationism (usually when people talk about old earth creationism they say that explicitly I've found at least).

[QUOTE="brucewayne69"]Being a creationist puts you at the bottom of the pole in terms of intelligence? Zeviander

Personally, I believe that God has a hand/controls evolution. But would you call my grand parents stupid because they are creationists? What the hell man?

[QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

Also, I'm sure that this congressman is laughing all the way to the bank. Either way, he's made, probably smarter than a lot of people here, and a congressman.

Ace6301

This is not Kong hahaha.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

Also, I'm sure that this congressman is laughing all the way to the bank. Either way, he's made, probably smarter than a lot of people here, and a congressman.

brucewayne69

This is not Kong hahaha.

[QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] Kong why aren't you posting on your main.Ace6301

This is not Kong hahaha.

I whole-heartedly believe that you don't think I'm kong.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

This is not Kong hahaha.

brucewayne69

I whole-heartedly believe that you don't think I'm kong.

Personally, I believe that God has a hand/controls evolution.brucewayne69

that contradicts the idea that god has given mankind freewill. If god has complete control over how we develop, then we have no choice in the matter. no freedom in which we can exercise our will.

But would you call my grand parents stupid because they are creationists? What the hell man?brucewayne69

they could be idiots, he's just calling them how he sees them.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

This is not Kong hahaha.

brucewayne69

I whole-heartedly believe that you don't think I'm kong.

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"] People like this shouldn't be involved with ANYTHING concerning scientific p.olicy in the US. Its a fvcking embarrassment to our country that such a low life moron can actually have a post like this. jimkabrhel

I'm not endorsing him but he's got a Bsc in Chemistry and is a MD. Religious beliefs aside, I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.

I have a PhD in Chemistry. Just because I have an advanced degree doesn't give me the right to make proclamations like this, especially those that have no basis in reality. It's one thing to suggest that some higher being has a hand in the design of the universe, it's another to suggest that science is the work of the Devil.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

I'm not endorsing him but he's got a Bsc in Chemistry and is a MD. Religious beliefs aside, I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.

Trinitarian

I have a PhD in Chemistry. Just because I have an advanced degree doesn't give me the right to make proclamations like this, especially those that have no basis in reality. It's one thing to suggest that some higher being has a hand in the design of the universe, it's another to suggest that science is the work of the Devil.

[QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

Personally, I believe that God has a hand/controls evolution.SirWander

that contradicts the idea that god has given mankind freewill. If god has complete control over how we develop, then we have no choice in the matter. no freedom in which we can exercise our will.

But would you call my grand parents stupid because they are creationists? What the hell man?brucewayne69

they could be idiots, he's just calling them how he sees them.

Ahh, too bad! They aren't! Nobody talks about my grandma and grandpa that way. Nobody!

[QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] That's unfortunate. You seem quite similar. You're not as funny though.-Sun_Tzu-

I whole-heartedly believe that you don't think I'm kong.

Sun Tzu, you will forget this conversation. *waves hand*. Did it work?

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

I'm not endorsing him but he's got a Bsc in Chemistry and is a MD. Religious beliefs aside, I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.

Trinitarian

I have a PhD in Chemistry. Just because I have an advanced degree doesn't give me the right to make proclamations like this, especially those that have no basis in reality. It's one thing to suggest that some higher being has a hand in the design of the universe, it's another to suggest that science is the work of the Devil.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

I whole-heartedly believe that you don't think I'm kong.

brucewayne69

Sun Tzu, you will forget this conversation. *waves hand*. Did it work?

that contradicts the idea that god has given mankind freewill. If god has complete control over how we develop, then we have no choice in the matter. no freedom in which we can exercise our will.SirWander

[QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Your jedi mind tricks won't work on me KK-Sun_Tzu-

Sun Tzu, you will forget this conversation. *waves hand*. Did it work?

[QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Your jedi mind tricks won't work on me KK-Sun_Tzu-

Sun Tzu, you will forget this conversation. *waves hand*. Did it work?

That's funny mate I'm in all AP classes and my sister graduated from MIT. Bad genes huh? Where'd you go? Kaplan college?

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

I'm not endorsing him but he's got a Bsc in Chemistry and is a MD. Religious beliefs aside, I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.

Trinitarian

I have a PhD in Chemistry. Just because I have an advanced degree doesn't give me the right to make proclamations like this, especially those that have no basis in reality. It's one thing to suggest that some higher being has a hand in the design of the universe, it's another to suggest that science is the work of the Devil.

It's unfortunate you don't actually comprehend what a scientific theory is.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

Sun Tzu, you will forget this conversation. *waves hand*. Did it work?

brucewayne69

That's funny mate I'm in all AP classes and my sister graduated from MIT. Bad genes huh? Where'd you go? Kaplan college?

[QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] I'm sorry your grandparents passed down such sh!tty genes. If only they could've won a Darwin award before it was too late. Ace6301

That's funny mate I'm in all AP classes and my sister graduated from MIT. Bad genes huh? Where'd you go? Kaplan college?

That's because AP doesn't mean that much. It's good and everyhing, but still not the end all be all.

[QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] I'm sorry your grandparents passed down such sh!tty genes. If only they could've won a Darwin award before it was too late. Ace6301

That's funny mate I'm in all AP classes and my sister graduated from MIT. Bad genes huh? Where'd you go? Kaplan college?

It pisses me off because the fact is it's true. I realize that obviously people lie on the internet, but not this time. My family is smart I guess. We don't have any nobel prize winners but it's true, I have all AP core classes (science, math, english) and my sister graduated from MIT just this year. That's kinda cool.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

That's funny mate I'm in all AP classes and my sister graduated from MIT. Bad genes huh? Where'd you go? Kaplan college?

brucewayne69

It pisses me off because the fact is it's true. I realize that obviously people lie on the internet, but not this time. My family is smart I guess. We don't have any nobel prize winners but it's true, I have all AP core classes (science, math, english) and my sister graduated from MIT just this year. That's kinda cool.

Yes, it is.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

That's funny mate I'm in all AP classes and my sister graduated from MIT. Bad genes huh? Where'd you go? Kaplan college?

TacticalDesire

That's because AP doesn't mean that much. It's good and everyhing, but still not the end all be all.

Well, an A in an AP course looks better than an A in a regular course.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

That's funny mate I'm in all AP classes and my sister graduated from MIT. Bad genes huh? Where'd you go? Kaplan college?

TacticalDesire

That's because AP doesn't mean that much. It's good and everyhing, but still not the end all be all.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

That's funny mate I'm in all AP classes and my sister graduated from MIT. Bad genes huh? Where'd you go? Kaplan college?

brucewayne69

It pisses me off because the fact is it's true. I realize that obviously people lie on the internet, but not this time. My family is smart I guess. We don't have any nobel prize winners but it's true, I have all AP core classes (science, math, english) and my sister graduated from MIT just this year. That's kinda cool.

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] Man if everyone on the internet did half as well as they claimed maybe we wouldn't have such crappy test scores. I swear there's at least 300 people on here who were in every AP class with straight As. brucewayne69

That's because AP doesn't mean that much. It's good and everyhing, but still not the end all be all.

Well, an A in an AP course looks better than an A in a regular course.

It's better than not doing AP, it's just that a large amount of college bound kids do it now, so it's not an exclusive group or anything.

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] Man if everyone on the internet did half as well as they claimed maybe we wouldn't have such crappy test scores. I swear there's at least 300 people on here who were in every AP class with straight As. chessmaster1989

That's because AP doesn't mean that much. It's good and everyhing, but still not the end all be all.

I've personally gone the dual-enrollment route (doing college classes in HS), I guess I'll see how that works out for me applying to universities this month and beyond.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

That's because AP doesn't mean that much. It's good and everyhing, but still not the end all be all.

TacticalDesire

I've personally gone the dual-enrollment route (doing college classes in HS), I guess I'll see how that works out for me applying to universities this month and beyond.

That's cool man, it should be a lot of help. Good luck!

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

I'm not endorsing him but he's got a Bsc in Chemistry and is a MD. Religious beliefs aside, I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.

Trinitarian

I have a PhD in Chemistry. Just because I have an advanced degree doesn't give me the right to make proclamations like this, especially those that have no basis in reality. It's one thing to suggest that some higher being has a hand in the design of the universe, it's another to suggest that science is the work of the Devil.

You have absolutely no fvcking idea what your talking about.. We get it you don't accept the Theory of Evolution, don't try to act like you understand them.. Because you don't, you have no idea what a Scientific Theory means what so ever.. Which is a shame because it should have been taught to you in Middle School.. Either your teachers failed in teaching you, or you didn't pay attention..

Devil's advocate: God created the process, he doesn't control it directly. Zeviander

the creation process implies that there are predefined parameters, it has limits in it's variation, and is therefore in rule of causation. because we are not independent from the effects of the creation of the universe, we are stuck with reacting to the initial spark. that does not suggest an environment in which freewill can foster.

also we are only as free to choose as god made us to be. we can not, by being creations, act beyond our limitations. This brings into question the omniscience of such a being, as to why in it's infinite knowledge would this be the most beneficial of all outcomes.

Me: Conflating God to acting through science removes the divine power and replaces it with laziness and imperfection.Zeviander

Haha, yeah thanks for those vestigial organs.

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] Well an A in AP Calculus BC, AP Physics, or AP Chemistry is usually a good sign for college admissions, but beyond that yeah it doesn't mean all that much.brucewayne69

I've personally gone the dual-enrollment route (doing college classes in HS), I guess I'll see how that works out for me applying to universities this month and beyond.

That's cool man, it should be a lot of help. Good luck!

Thanks hah, who knows. Anyway, I won't derail the topic further.

the only people who disagree with evolution are those who don't understand it and refuse to learn

Obviously the guy is out of touch with biology and genetics, that does not mean he's out of touch with everything else.

Storm_Marine

He's clearly out of touch with reality.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

I'm not endorsing him but he's got a Bsc in Chemistry and is a MD. Religious beliefs aside, I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.

Trinitarian

I have a PhD in Chemistry. Just because I have an advanced degree doesn't give me the right to make proclamations like this, especially those that have no basis in reality. It's one thing to suggest that some higher being has a hand in the design of the universe, it's another to suggest that science is the work of the Devil.

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]I'm annoyed when people completely and entirely belittle and discredit a person based off of something like this. Obviously the guy is out of touch with biology and genetics, that does not mean he's out of touch with everything else.Zeviander

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

That's funny mate I'm in all AP classes and my sister graduated from MIT. Bad genes huh? Where'd you go? Kaplan college?

brucewayne69

It pisses me off because the fact is it's true. I realize that obviously people lie on the internet, but not this time. My family is smart I guess. We don't have any nobel prize winners but it's true, I have all AP core classes (science, math, english) and my sister graduated from MIT just this year. That's kinda cool.

[QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] Man if everyone on the internet did half as well as they claimed maybe we wouldn't have such crappy test scores. I swear there's at least 300 people on here who were in every AP class with straight As. l4dak47

It pisses me off because the fact is it's true. I realize that obviously people lie on the internet, but not this time. My family is smart I guess. We don't have any nobel prize winners but it's true, I have all AP core classes (science, math, english) and my sister graduated from MIT just this year. That's kinda cool.

Evolution is a fact, it's something one can observe and it's used extensively in farming and horticulture, it has also been observed in nature through natural selection. Now unless we invent a time machine and go back into the past there are always going to be a few nut jobs claiming us humans are different from every other life on this planet and some magical God created us. This congressman is the perfect example of brainwashing. Religious brainwashing is widespread in society.PernicioEnigma

Or you know, faith.

[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]I'm annoyed when people completely and entirely belittle and discredit a person based off of something like this. Obviously the guy is out of touch with biology and genetics, that does not mean he's out of touch with everything else.themajormayor

Seriously,that comment was a bit overboard Zeviander

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

It pisses me off because the fact is it's true. I realize that obviously people lie on the internet, but not this time. My family is smart I guess. We don't have any nobel prize winners but it's true, I have all AP core classes (science, math, english) and my sister graduated from MIT just this year. That's kinda cool.

brucewayne69

[QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] Rofl. I have 25 degrees, but I swear I'm not lying! Ah, tis the sign of a pathetic man when he has to resort to his (supposed) credentials because his arguments are sh*t. l4dak47

Me? I don't believe in young earth creationism and I do beieve in evolution. If you're talking about the congressman, well, I'm sure he's not an idiot. He may be mis informed, extremely faithful, or just doesn't care to believe in it. But he's hardly an idiot. I'm sure his IQ surpasses many around here.