Congressman calls evolution a lie from the "pit of hell"

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#1 Posted by angeldeb82 (1020 posts) -
#2 Posted by Blue-Sky (10315 posts) -

Don't be afraid to be specific. It's a Republican on the congressional science committee. Surprise, surprise.

#3 Posted by jimkabrhel (15416 posts) -

Don't be afraid to be specific. It's a Republican on the congressional science committee. Surprise, surprise.

Blue-Sky

The first part doesn't surprise me, the second part scares the crap out of me.

#4 Posted by HoolaHoopMan (7719 posts) -

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Don't be afraid to be specific. It's a Republican on the congressional science committee. Surprise, surprise.

jimkabrhel

The first part doesn't surprise me, the second part scares the crap out of me.

People like this shouldn't be involved with ANYTHING concerning scientific policy in the US. Its a fvcking embarrassment to our country that such a low life moron can actually have a post like this.
#5 Posted by BranKetra (47740 posts) -
He is a Christian fundamentalist.
#6 Posted by Zeviander (9503 posts) -
Old news, but still scary as hell.
#7 Posted by Storm_Marine (10766 posts) -

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Don't be afraid to be specific. It's a Republican on the congressional science committee. Surprise, surprise.

HoolaHoopMan

The first part doesn't surprise me, the second part scares the crap out of me.

People like this shouldn't be involved with ANYTHING concerning scientific policy in the US. Its a fvcking embarrassment to our country that such a low life moron can actually have a post like this.

I'm not endorsing him but he's got a Bsc in Chemistry and is a MD. Religious beliefs aside, I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.

#8 Posted by SirWander (5176 posts) -

A person like that should have nothing to do with science.

#9 Posted by Storm_Marine (10766 posts) -

A person like that should have nothing to do with science.

SirWander

But please, show us your personal credentials.

#10 Posted by jimkabrhel (15416 posts) -

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

The first part doesn't surprise me, the second part scares the crap out of me.

Storm_Marine

People like this shouldn't be involved with ANYTHING concerning scientific policy in the US. Its a fvcking embarrassment to our country that such a low life moron can actually have a post like this.

I'm not endorsing him but he's got a Bsc in Chemistry and is a MD. Religious beliefs aside, I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.

I have a PhD in Chemistry. Just because I have an advanced degree doesn't give me the right to make proclamations like this, especially those that have no basis in reality. It's one thing to suggest that some higher being has a hand in the design of the universe, it's another to suggest that science is the work of the Devil.

#11 Posted by Storm_Marine (10766 posts) -

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"] People like this shouldn't be involved with ANYTHING concerning scientific policy in the US. Its a fvcking embarrassment to our country that such a low life moron can actually have a post like this. jimkabrhel

I'm not endorsing him but he's got a Bsc in Chemistry and is a MD. Religious beliefs aside, I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.

I have a PhD in Chemistry. Just because I have an advanced degree doesn't give me the right to make proclamations like this, especially those that have no basis in reality. It's one thing to suggest that some higher being has a hand in the design of the universe, it's another to suggest that science is the work of the Devil.

Obviously.

#12 Posted by Zeviander (9503 posts) -
I'm not endorsing him but he's got a Bsc in Chemistry and is a MD. Religious beliefs aside, I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.Storm_Marine
Being able to pass exams doesn't make moronic beliefs credible. The fact someone on a SCIENCE board, would belittle science in such a way is detestable.
#13 Posted by JML897 (33120 posts) -

I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.

Storm_Marine

He thinks evolution is false.

Therefore I know more about science than he does.

#14 Posted by jimkabrhel (15416 posts) -

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

I'm not endorsing him but he's got a Bsc in Chemistry and is a MD. Religious beliefs aside, I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.

Storm_Marine

I have a PhD in Chemistry. Just because I have an advanced degree doesn't give me the right to make proclamations like this, especially those that have no basis in reality. It's one thing to suggest that some higher being has a hand in the design of the universe, it's another to suggest that science is the work of the Devil.

Obviously.

But he has the right to do so because of his degree? I don't see the difference.

#15 Posted by Storm_Marine (10766 posts) -

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.

JML897

He thinks evolution is false.

Therefore I know more about science than he does.

:lol: Ok.

#16 Posted by -Sun_Tzu- (17379 posts) -

he's got a Bsc in Chemistry and is a MD.

Storm_Marine
That just makes what he said worse.
#17 Posted by Aljosa23 (24515 posts) -

clarity.jpg.

#18 Posted by Storm_Marine (10766 posts) -

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

I have a PhD in Chemistry. Just because I have an advanced degree doesn't give me the right to make proclamations like this, especially those that have no basis in reality. It's one thing to suggest that some higher being has a hand in the design of the universe, it's another to suggest that science is the work of the Devil.

jimkabrhel

Obviously.

But he has the right to do so because of his degree? I don't see the difference.

I'm annoyed when people completely and entirely belittle and discredit a person based off of something like this. Obviously the guy is out of touch with biology and genetics, that does not mean he's out of touch with everything else.

#19 Posted by brucewayne69 (2859 posts) -

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"] People like this shouldn't be involved with ANYTHING concerning scientific policy in the US. Its a fvcking embarrassment to our country that such a low life moron can actually have a post like this. jimkabrhel

I'm not endorsing him but he's got a Bsc in Chemistry and is a MD. Religious beliefs aside, I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.

I have a PhD in Chemistry. Just because I have an advanced degree doesn't give me the right to make proclamations like this, especially those that have no basis in reality. It's one thing to suggest that some higher being has a hand in the design of the universe, it's another to suggest that science is the work of the Devil.

Err, you have the right to make any proclamation credentials aside. Also, he is not a low-life moron for not believing in evolution. A low life moron is a drug dealer, an abusive father or things similar.

#20 Posted by Aljosa23 (24515 posts) -

Storm_Marine let's play StarCraft II, bro.

#21 Posted by jimkabrhel (15416 posts) -

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Obviously.

Storm_Marine

But he has the right to do so because of his degree? I don't see the difference.

I'm annoyed when people completely belittle and discredit a person based off of something like this. Obviously the guy is out of touch with biology and genetics, that does not mean he's out of touch with everything else.

He could be a great father, pillar of his community and an insane poker player. I don't care. I do care that someone disconnected with the fundamentals of science in a position to create scientific based policy.

#22 Posted by Storm_Marine (10766 posts) -

Storm_Marine let's play StarCraft II, bro.

Aljosa23

i'm kind of tired and jet lagged but we could play sometime tomorrow or so

#23 Posted by Storm_Marine (10766 posts) -

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

But he has the right to do so because of his degree? I don't see the difference.

jimkabrhel

I'm annoyed when people completely belittle and discredit a person based off of something like this. Obviously the guy is out of touch with biology and genetics, that does not mean he's out of touch with everything else.

He could be a great father, pillar of his community and an insane poker player. I don't care. I do care that someone disconnected with the fundamentals of science in a position to create scientific based policy.

You act as if evolutionary biology is the entirety of science and that any random evolution believing forum goer is more qualified than him regardless about what they know about the rest of the world.

#24 Posted by SirWander (5176 posts) -

But please, show us your personal credentials.

Storm_Marine

Only when you show your credentials first, it would only be polite.

#25 Posted by brucewayne69 (2859 posts) -

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Obviously.

Storm_Marine

But he has the right to do so because of his degree? I don't see the difference.

I'm annoyed when people completely and entirely belittle and discredit a person based off of something like this. Obviously the guy is out of touch with biology and genetics, that does not mean he's out of touch with everything else.

I'm with you man. The guy doesn't believe in evolution and is immediately considered a low life moron, an imbecile and a complete idiot. Perhaps he doesn't understand/want to believe in evolution, but it doesn't mean he doesn't excel in other fields of science or other academic branches, or even common sense, which I'm sure some people in this thread lack.

#26 Posted by Aljosa23 (24515 posts) -

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Storm_Marine let's play StarCraft II, bro.

Storm_Marine

i'm kind of tired and jet lagged but we could play sometime tomorrow or so

Alright cool.

I'm pretty bad :<

#27 Posted by kingkong0124 (8710 posts) -

Find it funny how people are calling someone with an MD stupid. He's accomplished more than any of you losers (with the exception of a select few who know who they are). And I find it quite revealing that masters of human biology (doctors) reject this theory..not surprised. That's all I'm going to say.

#28 Posted by Zeviander (9503 posts) -
I'm annoyed when people completely and entirely belittle and discredit a person based off of something like this. Obviously the guy is out of touch with biology and genetics, that does not mean he's out of touch with everything else.Storm_Marine
I'm disgusted that you are trying to defend him. He calls the work of thousands (if not tens of thousands) of dedicated, intelligent individuals who have given their entire lives to the betterment of humanity through the study of evolution, and it's off-shoots genetics, organic chemistry and other fields related to medicine, what is essentially "useless crap" and takes the insult further, by calling it product of pure evil. No scientist, no human being, who values knowledge and the future of humanity, would ever consider, let alone come up with repugnant nonsense such as this. And to defend him? I have absolutely no words for you. If you are merely making argument for argument's sake, then fine... but if you truly wish to defend such an individual as this, I wish to disassociate myself from you immediately, as you are an enemy of human kind, and our very survival.
#29 Posted by kingkong0124 (8710 posts) -

And to defend him? I have absolutely no words for you. If you are merely making argument for argument's sake, then fine... but if you truly wish to defend such an individual as this, I wish to disassociate myself from you immediately, as you are an enemy of human kind, and our very survival.Zeviander

don't make me post that picture.

#30 Posted by Storm_Marine (10766 posts) -

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]I'm annoyed when people completely and entirely belittle and discredit a person based off of something like this. Obviously the guy is out of touch with biology and genetics, that does not mean he's out of touch with everything else.Zeviander
, I wish to disassociate myself from you immediately, as you are an enemy of human kind, and our very survival.

Oh snap. Am I allowed to quote this? It should go in my sig.

#31 Posted by Storm_Marine (10766 posts) -

Storm Marine, Enemy of Mankind.

#32 Posted by Storm_Marine (10766 posts) -

And (presumably) Destroyer of Worlds.

#33 Posted by kingkong0124 (8710 posts) -

Storm Marine, Enemy of Mankind.

Storm_Marine
Sounds cool.
#34 Posted by dave123321 (33563 posts) -

[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]I'm annoyed when people completely and entirely belittle and discredit a person based off of something like this. Obviously the guy is out of touch with biology and genetics, that does not mean he's out of touch with everything else.Storm_Marine

, I wish to disassociate myself from you immediately, as you are an enemy of human kind, and our very survival.

Oh snap. Am I allowed to quote this? It should go in my sig.

Do it anyway
#35 Posted by Aljosa23 (24515 posts) -

[QUOTE="Zeviander"] And to defend him? I have absolutely no words for you. If you are merely making argument for argument's sake, then fine... but if you truly wish to defend such an individual as this, I wish to disassociate myself from you immediately, as you are an enemy of human kind, and our very survival.kingkong0124

don't make me post that picture.

Now now, you're better than that.

#36 Posted by kingkong0124 (8710 posts) -

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="Zeviander"] And to defend him? I have absolutely no words for you. If you are merely making argument for argument's sake, then fine... but if you truly wish to defend such an individual as this, I wish to disassociate myself from you immediately, as you are an enemy of human kind, and our very survival.Aljosa23

don't make me post that picture.

Now now, you're better than that.

I am. I'd probably be adding fuel to the fire.

#37 Posted by TacticalDesire (10713 posts) -

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

I'm not endorsing him but he's got a Bsc in Chemistry and is a MD. Religious beliefs aside, I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.

Storm_Marine

I have a PhD in Chemistry. Just because I have an advanced degree doesn't give me the right to make proclamations like this, especially those that have no basis in reality. It's one thing to suggest that some higher being has a hand in the design of the universe, it's another to suggest that science is the work of the Devil.

Obviously.

Apparently his credentials are not more impressive than Jim's.

#38 Posted by SirWander (5176 posts) -

Find it funny how people are calling someone with an MD stupid. He's accomplished more than any of you losers (with the exception of a select few who know who they are). And I find it quite revealing that masters of human biology (doctors) reject this theory..not surprised.

kingkong0124

no one in this thread has said he's stupid, or an idiot. His accomplishments are not being questioned, nor does a person's lack of accomplishments render an opinion null. Is their a quantifiable number of doctors that have rejected this theory, and have they done so out of some bias.

but what is being criticized is that ridiculous statement.

That's all I'm going to say.

kingkong0124

feel free to not reply

#39 Posted by SaintLeonidas (25848 posts) -
Psychopath.
#40 Posted by Zeviander (9503 posts) -
don't make me post that picture.kingkong0124
Oh no, not a picture I willfully uploaded and actually like compared to the other pictures I have of myself! That would be horrible! Please, for the love of Joe Pesci, don't! Don't see what it would accomplish as I am in no way embarrassed by the image. Or do you fancy me as something more than a friend? You seem to obsess over this picture of mine. Should I send you more titillating images so that you can gain physical pleasure from them?
#41 Posted by Saturos3091 (14938 posts) -

You kids missed the first part of the topic title where it said "Congressman."

Politicians will be politicians. They appeal to a demographic that will get them elected by using whatever means necessary so they can make $150k+ a year not counting benefits and information. I find it more sad that people will elect someone like him than him supposedly 'believing' what he's saying.

#42 Posted by Storm_Marine (10766 posts) -

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

I have a PhD in Chemistry. Just because I have an advanced degree doesn't give me the right to make proclamations like this, especially those that have no basis in reality. It's one thing to suggest that some higher being has a hand in the design of the universe, it's another to suggest that science is the work of the Devil.

TacticalDesire

Obviously.

Apparently his credentials are not more impressive than Jim's.

Techically you're right. Though we're in different fields completely and who's judging?

#43 Posted by kingkong0124 (8710 posts) -

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Find it funny how people are calling someone with an MD stupid. He's accomplished more than any of you losers (with the exception of a select few who know who they are). And I find it quite revealing that masters of human biology (doctors) reject this theory..not surprised.

SirWander

no one in this thread has said he's stupid, or an idiot. His accomplishments are not being questioned, nor does a person's lack of accomplishments render an opinion null. Is their a quantifiable number of doctors that have rejected this theory, and have they done so out of some bias.

but what is being criticized is that ridiculous statement.

That's all I'm going to say.

kingkong0124

feel free to not reply

people have called him horrible names. You can look up stats on doctors that reject this theory, there's plenty of them out there. While they may have rejected the theory due to bias, some may have promoted the theory due to their own biases.

#44 Posted by jimkabrhel (15416 posts) -
It isn't just evolutionary biology. He mentions the Bing Bang theory also. As I said, he 's more that welcome to espouse his own mixture of science and religion. However, he should, as a member of an important Congressional committee relating to science, should seek to disconnect from wild religious theories and stick closer to peer-reviewed scientific literature. Of the type this man needed to read for his degrees.
#45 Posted by kingkong0124 (8710 posts) -

Zeviander

Sorry, I like to laugh at it. And I don't obsess over your picture, I simply came across it. After your many insults towards myself and others, I had to look for something. Didn't have to look hard.

#46 Posted by Fightingfan (38011 posts) -
I swear it really amazes me how some these guys make it into Harvard and Yale.
#47 Posted by kingkong0124 (8710 posts) -

It isn't just evolutionary biology. He mentions the Bing Bang theory also. As I said, he 's more that welcome to espouse his own mixture of science and religion. However, he should, as a member of an important Congressional committee relating to science, should seek to disconnect from wild religious theories and stick closer to peer-reviewed scientific literature. Of the type this man needed to read for his degrees.jimkabrhel

Who said you have to accept those theories to be part of that committee? In this case, a variety of viewpoints, would, in my opinion, be the best option.

#48 Posted by Storm_Marine (10766 posts) -

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]It isn't just evolutionary biology. He mentions the Bing Bang theory also. As I said, he 's more that welcome to espouse his own mixture of science and religion. However, he should, as a member of an important Congressional committee relating to science, should seek to disconnect from wild religious theories and stick closer to peer-reviewed scientific literature. Of the type this man needed to read for his degrees.kingkong0124

Who said you have to accept those theories to be part of that committee? In this case, a variety of viewpoints, would, in my opinion, be the best option.

Bing Bang was just me destroying worlds as usual.

#49 Posted by Storm_Marine (10766 posts) -

I swear it really amazes me how some these guys make it into Harvard and Yale.Fightingfan

Maybe he's better at math than you?

#50 Posted by Zeviander (9503 posts) -
Sorry, I like to laugh at it. And I don't obsess over your picture, I simply came across it. After your many insults towards myself and others, I had to look for something. Didn't have to look hard.kingkong0124
You have brought it up more than once as a response to an argument I've made when you have nothing to counter with. That suggests to me, either you have an unhealthy obsession with me, or you are an idiot trying to rile me up with something that does nothing of the sort. Go ahead, post it. I have no shame in that five year-old image of myself. One of the few ever taken I am not self-conscious of.