China rips off another foreign auto maker

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#1 comp_atkins
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The Tesla model S gets added to the long list of Chinese knock-offs now with the new Youxia X.

More info here

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#2  Edited By deactivated-598fc45371265
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probably a better car

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#3 Stesilaus
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Unless it also bursts into flames, it's probably a substantial improvement over the original ...

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#4 comp_atkins
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@Stesilaus said:

Unless it also bursts into flames, it's probably a substantial improvement over the original ...

good thing IC automobiles never catch fire.

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#5  Edited By Master_Live
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#6 TheShadowLord07
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Is it really consider a rip if TM has their patents for free?

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#7 Megane
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Must be a bad rip-off, they put the steering wheel the wrong side.

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#8 branketra
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@Storm_Marine said:

probably a better car

You have not seen communist cars, I assume.

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#9 branketra
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@TheShadowLord07 said:

Is it really consider a rip if TM has their patents for free?

I doubt it is because of that.

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#10  Edited By Ant_17
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Dear god , that is fugly.

The steering wheel looks it will brake if i stare at it longer enought.

And is that a tablet?

It looks like a concept car from 2003.

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#11  Edited By lucianocasanova
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Oh look, now I don't need to bring my own IPad anymore. YAYYYYYY!

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#14  Edited By YearoftheSnake5
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@Stesilaus: It didn't just burst into flames. That's the fire where a curved piece of metal off a tractor trailer punched a hole through the battery pack's armor with a force of 25 tons. Something like that would have done significant damage to my Saturn or any IC vehicle for that matter. Nobody was harmed in this vehicle fire. The car warned the driver of a malfunction and to pull over.

Since then, additional armor has been added to the battery pack. It's a safe car.

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#15  Edited By bmanva
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@BranKetra said:
@Storm_Marine said:

probably a better car

You have not seen communist cars, I assume.

China isn't really communist anymore, at least not their economy.

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#16  Edited By SamusBeliskner
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@megane said:

Must be a bad rip-off, they put the steering wheel the wrong side.

Just for fun, here's an image showing (in blue) all the weirdos with steering wheels on the right, from the perspective of the driver. :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sens_de_circulation.png

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Good artists copy, great artists steal.

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#18  Edited By branketra
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@bmanva said:
@BranKetra said:
@Storm_Marine said:

probably a better car

You have not seen communist cars, I assume.

China isn't really communist anymore, at least not their economy.

It remains "Red China," politically.

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#19  Edited By bmanva
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@BranKetra said:
@bmanva said:
@BranKetra said:
@Storm_Marine said:

probably a better car

You have not seen communist cars, I assume.

China isn't really communist anymore, at least not their economy.

It remains "Red China," politically.

Only because it's convenient for anyone opposing to China as a rising power, politically. Doesn't mean the label is accurate.

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#20  Edited By branketra
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@bmanva: China's economy is becoming more and more capitalist, but I do not know what you are saying in comment #19. The Communist Party of China is the current ruling party. If you think that there shall be a change, I would like to read your explanation about how that shall occur.

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#21 bmanva
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@BranKetra said:

@bmanva: China's economy is becoming more and more capitalist, but I do not know what you are saying in comment #19. The Communist Party of China is the current ruling party. If you think that there shall be a change, I would like to read your explanation about how that shall occur.

They refer to themselves as communists but there's very little in common the real China share with the mental picture that everyone conjures up when you mention "Red China". Again that's a political propaganda term to portray it as an opposing nation. Not saying there's no truth in that but too often the word is thrown around by people who don't really understand what communism really is.

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#22  Edited By branketra
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@bmanva: Communism of China and Russia, today, is not the communism proposed by Karl Marx in the Communist Manifesto. However, they officially call themselves communist. As I agreed, China's economy is becoming more and more capitalist, but its ruling party is the Communist Party of China. That gentleman makes a good point about Italy calling itself a "Catholic nation."

I am not sure about the "mental picture" you are speaking of when saying that "everyone conjures."

I remember two months ago when I was looking at old gamespot posts on google and I noticed that one GameSpot thread about China had been copied and discussed by Chinese folks. It was interesting because they were disturbed at some of the comments about what China should do when America has problems of its own.

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#23 bmanva
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@BranKetra: Well, Russia is no longer communist, even when they were USSR they practiced a very different kind of communism from Mao's China. Hence the conflict of ideology between the two countries in the 60s-early 80s.

But history aside, let's reiterate the context. You implied that Chinese cars were of inferior quality because they are "communist cars". I'm not disagreeing with the inferior quality part just communist part, because the plain fact is consumer products like cars are result of one's economy and Chinese economy is, by your own admission, a capitalist system. The inferior quality of Chinese product has nothing to do with self labelled communist party government but simply one of lack of quality control culture. That was the point I was trying to make.

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#24  Edited By branketra
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@bmanva: Sorry, I have been focusing almost entirely on learning calculus these past nine weeks. Some information slipped the mind.

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#25 centrifugal
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Looks nice and is probably $10-20,000 cheaper.