Can someone explain how Paula Deen is vilified, yet Alec Baldwin is doing fine?

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#1 BMD004
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Paula Deen's career has basically ended over something she said 30 years ago.

 

Alec Baldwin has made racist and homophobic remarks within the past couple years, and it will get reported but not much comes of it.

 

Why?

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I don't know.

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Paula Deen's career has basically ended over something she said 30 years ago.

 

Alec Baldwin has made racist and homophobic remarks within the past couple years, and it will get reported but not much comes of it.

 

Why?

BMD004
I love it when people try to justify their racism
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#4 cain006
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Paula Deen will be back on TV in a couple years for sure. Just look at Dog the bounty hunter. November 2007 he said the n word a bunch to his son in a phone call and three months later they were back to making the show.

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Obviously it's sexism.

JK, I dunno. 

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You seriously don't know why that is?  

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#7 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="BMD004"]

Paula Deen's career has basically ended over something she said 30 years ago.

 

Alec Baldwin has made racist and homophobic remarks within the past couple years, and it will get reported but not much comes of it.

 

Why?

Nuck81

I love it when people try to justify their racism

He's not doing that.:|

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I know about Baldwin's well-documented homophobic remarks, but I Googled "Alec Baldwin racist remarks" and it seems that there's no actual proof that he said anything racist.

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#9 LJS9502_basic
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I know about Baldwin's well-documented homophobic remarks, but I Googled "Alec Baldwin racist remarks" and it seems that there's no actual proof that he said anything racist.

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So after you posted that I did the same thing....and got hits. apparently he did go on racist rants....
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I know about Baldwin's well-documented homophobic remarks, but I Googled "Alec Baldwin racist remarks" and it seems that there's no actual proof that he said anything racist.

LJS9502_basic

So after you posted that I did the same thing....and got hits. apparently he did go on racist rants....

I didn't say I didn't get any hits. I said that there's no proof he said anything racist, not that there's no articles about alleged incidents.

For instance, one of the results says that he was cleared by the audio tape.

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#11 Serraph105
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Because the world is weird when it comes to what it chooses to care about? Seriously can we get over the whole Paula Deen thing yet?

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#12 comp_atkins
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villification = extent of offense / ( entertainment value + athletic ability )^2

paula deen, while offense was small, has no athletic ability or entertainment value, hence the high degree of villification.

alec baldwin, on the other hand, while possessing no athletic ability does have a modicum of entertainment value, and since the lower term of the equation is squared, greatly reduces the overall villification when divided into the extent of offense.

 

science, b!tches.

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#13 deactivated-57e5de5e137a4
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Paula Deen showed weakness so the hyenas pounced.
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#14 ferrari2001
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Because the media targeted Paula and not Baldwin.
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villification = extent of offense / ( entertainment value + athletic ability )^2

paula deen, while offense was small, has no athletic ability or entertainment value, hence the high degree of villification.

alec baldwin, on the other hand, while possessing no athletic ability does have a modicum of entertainment value, and since the lower term of the equation is squared, greatly reduces the overall villification when divided into the extent of offense.

 

science, b!tches.

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That is hard science that I don't think anyone would/could argue with.
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You're thinking of Jack Donaghy.

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Do you want the real answer?
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Do you want the real answer?00-Riddick-00
I was just curious about everyone's opinions. But if you feel you have the "real" answer, go ahead.

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#19 BMD004
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Because the media targeted Paula and not Baldwin. ferrari2001
Well yeah... but WHY was she targeted and not Baldwin?

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#20 Capitan_Kid
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Proof? Alec Baldwin is one of the coolest celebs out there
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#21 foxhound_fox
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Was Paula Deen ever on SNL?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BevNkLH-q8.
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#23 OmitName
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from my perspective. baldwin might have let some unrendered thoughts loose that can be in some manner recognized as things he didnt mean. on the other hand paula deen held events, well planned, expensive events on which the motivating condition was racism. i saw clips of her show where she made super awkward remarks to peoples faces. she always got on my nerves anyway. never trust any lady who insists baby doll make up. she also seems like she is faking herself. she puts that bad accent on like a rapper pretending. she just comes off as full of bad stuff. god be with her, i hope she stays in the hypothetical hole she dug herself, and enriches her life in a manner away from being famous.

baldwin-> i was angry and let things go i didnt mean. or you can buy that anyway

dean-> i generally have rotten, awful reasons to think im better than others. "i is what i is" ??? what? like everyone else is wrong for being upset that she is awful, just because that is the way she was implemented? people have plenty choice enough to decide to not be awful.

all that and baldwin might actually listen to his pr people some. cant say much about either any way. i did my best to avoid the subjects if i could.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BevNkLH-q8.Jazz_Fan
Ah Billy red face. My post was pretty much from this interview :P.

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[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]Because the media targeted Paula and not Baldwin. BMD004

Well yeah... but WHY was she targeted and not Baldwin?

Why does the media do anything? It's a completely illogical system. When one news outlet take up a story the rest of them do in order to compete. If something shows a following then they continue coverage on it until they've squeezed every last dollar out of the story and then move on. All it takes is one editor at a major company to run a piece and it takes off.
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Do you want the real answer?00-Riddick-00

[spoiler] Aliens [/spoiler]

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[QUOTE="00-Riddick-00"]Do you want the real answer?GreySeal9

[spoiler] Aliens [/spoiler]

[spoiler] Reapers [/spoiler]

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villification = extent of offense / ( entertainment value + athletic ability )^2

paula deen, while offense was small, has no athletic ability or entertainment value, hence the high degree of villification.

alec baldwin, on the other hand, while possessing no athletic ability does have a modicum of entertainment value, and since the lower term of the equation is squared, greatly reduces the overall villification when divided into the extent of offense.

 

science, b!tches.

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This post is so magnificent that I forgot what drivel I was going to post and decided to post this instead.
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="00-Riddick-00"]Do you want the real answer?chessmaster1989

[spoiler] Aliens [/spoiler]

[spoiler] Reapers [/spoiler]

Christ, I'm still mad about Mass Effect 3. Thanks for bringing it up again.
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#30 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Baldwin was in Glengarry Glen Ross, he can say whatever he wants.

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#31 ferrari2001
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[spoiler] Aliens [/spoiler]

HoolaHoopMan

[spoiler] Reapers [/spoiler]

Christ, I'm still mad about Mass Effect 3. Thanks for bringing it up again.

With all the DLC's added the ending is perfectly fine and the rest of the game is phenomenal.
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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[spoiler] Reapers [/spoiler]

ferrari2001
Christ, I'm still mad about Mass Effect 3. Thanks for bringing it up again.

With all the DLC's added the ending is perfectly fine and the rest of the game is phenomenal.

No.
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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[spoiler] Reapers [/spoiler]

ferrari2001
Christ, I'm still mad about Mass Effect 3. Thanks for bringing it up again.

With all the DLC's added the ending is perfectly fine and the rest of the game is phenomenal.

You. I like you.
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#35 campzor
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Because Alec is a talented individual who is very likeable whereas paula is not.

 

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#36 OrkHammer007
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It's simple:

Baldwin is as liberal as they get, so he can say or do anything (including abusing his wife) and the press will kiss his ass.

Deen has a thick Southern accent, which seems to be a signal to the press that she's definitely a racist... after all, how many NASCAR drivers are black? She could adopt a Suanese baby, marry Morgan Freeman, and still be a racist.

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I know about Baldwin's well-documented homophobic remarks, but I Googled "Alec Baldwin racist remarks" and it seems that there's no actual proof that he said anything racist.

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there is, it's just from the New York Post, and everyone else that brings it up as originating as a NY Post claim
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She's a southern white woman ,she had no chance.

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Paula Deen's career has basically ended over something she said 30 years ago.

Alec Baldwin has made racist and homophobic remarks within the past couple years, and it will get reported but not much comes of it.

Why?

BMD004

Because she is a white Southern woman. Us Southerners have always been fair game because of our past mistakes. It's ridiculous.

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[QUOTE="BMD004"]

Paula Deen's career has basically ended over something she said 30 years ago.

Alec Baldwin has made racist and homophobic remarks within the past couple years, and it will get reported but not much comes of it.

Why?

Amvis

Because she is a white Southern woman. Us Southerners have always been fair game because of our past mistakes. It's ridiculous.

As a Southern white male, those mistakes are hardly past. The South makes a laughingstock of itself on a regular basis.
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#41 BuryMe
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I think she was messed up in a lawsuit at the time, and he wasn't.

But I agree, what happened to her isn't fair.

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#42 Amvis
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[QUOTE="Amvis"]

[QUOTE="BMD004"]

Paula Deen's career has basically ended over something she said 30 years ago.

Alec Baldwin has made racist and homophobic remarks within the past couple years, and it will get reported but not much comes of it.

Why?

Makhaidos

Because she is a white Southern woman. Us Southerners have always been fair game because of our past mistakes. It's ridiculous.

As a Southern white male, those mistakes are hardly past. The South makes a laughingstock of itself on a regular basis.

As a Southern white male I disagree. Racism is by no means dead, but our racist past of Jim Crow, etc. is largely behind us. But that's still used as an excuse to beat us over the head with. Let's face it, the rest of nation is still just as racist as the South. We integrated our schools back in the 1950's and 1960's. In Boston, there were protests by people during the 1980's because they were being forced to integrate. Talk about hypocrisy.

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Because f*ck paula deen that's why

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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="Amvis"]

Because she is a white Southern woman. Us Southerners have always been fair game because of our past mistakes. It's ridiculous.

Amvis

As a Southern white male, those mistakes are hardly past. The South makes a laughingstock of itself on a regular basis.

As a Southern white male I disagree. Racism is by no means dead, but our racist past of Jim Crow, etc. is largely behind us. But that's still used as an excuse to beat us over the head with. Let's face it, the rest of nation is still just as racist as the South. We integrated our schools back in the 1950's and 1960's. In Boston, there were protests by people during the 1980's because they were being forced to integrate. Talk about hypocrisy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI4VGCy10FY

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its her fault she made a huge deal out of it and cried on tv, every person on earth has said something that can be considered racist at one point in their life.  she should have kept quiet afterwards.

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Indeed. Celebrities always make the mistake of lowering themselves to the tabloid media's level. When some kind of controversial shit hits the fan, they should not apologize, and not defend themselves at all. Just act like it's not even an issue, and refuse to speak to the press leeches, who are basically lower than scum, themselves. Before long, the hyenas realize they're not going to get much mileage out of the story when the subject refuses to stand on the firing range, and they move on to the next flavor of the month.

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