Can anyone beat Superman Prime (1 000 000)

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#51 dragonmaster64
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how does galactus compare?
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#52 th3warr1or
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how does galactus compare?dragonmaster64

how does galactus compare?dragonmaster64


Galactus is unique in the MU. He's basically a physical abstract (abstracts don't have physical forms. They use M-bodies. Galactus doesn't; his physical form is his own).

Due to the nature of Galactus' role as the World Devourer, his power fluctuates insanely. When he's starving, the Avengers can drive him off. After a prolonged fight with Ego, Mjolnir caused Galactus pain. On the other hand, Eternity considers him his equal (arguably because of his importance rather than his actual power, but I digress), and Galactus will be the one that devours the Universe at the end of its current cycle.

Galactus at his peak = Eternity. He was Eternity of the previous Universe. Thing is, he is never at his peak. Ever. Occasionally he has had "moderately well-fed" showings, in that he isn't starving, but the only time he will be at his peak is after he has devoured his own ship Taa-II and then devours the rest of the Universe, wherein he essentially assumes his former power as Eternity (being that he basically would've devoured the current incarnation of Eternity).

A starving Galactus gets owned by the Avengers. And also jobs a lot.
A weakened Galactus (after a prolonged fight with Ego) can be injured by Classic Thor.
A moderate Galactus is slightly above Skyfather level (e.g., Odin, Zeus).

We don't know how big the power gap between the different hunger states of Galactus is, but Galactus at his peak (meaning Eternity) is vastly more powerful than when he's merely "well-fed." However, we do know that at some point in the past, Galactus single-handedly defeated and imprisoned the Proemial Gods who were shown as individually powerful enough to 1hit the Silver Surfer, but a weakened Galactus was taken down by 2 Proemials -- Aegis Lady of All Sorrows and Tenebrous of the Darkness Between. Therefore, while we don't know just how big the gap is, it can be assumed that a Well-Fed Galactus is several times more powerful than his weakened state.

Proemial Gods:

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#53 dragonmaster64
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[QUOTE="dragonmaster64"]how does galactus compare?th3warr1or

how does galactus compare?dragonmaster64


Galactus is unique in the MU. He's basically a physical abstract (abstracts don't have physical forms. They use M-bodies. Galactus doesn't; his physical form is his own).

Due to the nature of Galactus' role as the World Devourer, his power fluctuates insanely. When he's starving, the Avengers can drive him off. After a prolonged fight with Ego, Mjolnir caused Galactus pain. On the other hand, Eternity considers him his equal (arguably because of his importance rather than his actual power, but I digress), and Galactus will be the one that devours the Universe at the end of its current cycle.

Galactus at his peak = Eternity. He was Eternity of the previous Universe. Thing is, he is never at his peak. Ever. Occasionally he has had "moderately well-fed" showings, in that he isn't starving, but the only time he will be at his peak is after he has devoured his own ship Taa-II and then devours the rest of the Universe, wherein he essentially assumes his former power as Eternity (being that he basically would've devoured the current incarnation of Eternity).

A starving Galactus gets owned by the Avengers. And also jobs a lot.
A weakened Galactus (after a prolonged fight with Ego) can be injured by Classic Thor.
A moderate Galactus is slightly above Skyfather level (e.g., Odin, Zeus).

We don't know how big the power gap between the different hunger states of Galactus is, but Galactus at his peak (meaning Eternity) is vastly more powerful than when he's merely "well-fed." However, we do know that at some point in the past, Galactus single-handedly defeated and imprisoned the Proemial Gods who were shown as individually powerful enough to 1hit the Silver Surfer, but a weakened Galactus was taken down by 2 Proemials -- Aegis Lady of All Sorrows and Tenebrous of the Darkness Between. Therefore, while we don't know just how big the gap is, it can be assumed that a Well-Fed Galactus is several times more powerful than his weakened state.

Proemial Gods:
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/27967/667912-proemial_super.jpg" alt=" " />

I see, great answer.
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"Superman Prime is the second most powerful being that has ever existed in the DC multiverse only surpassed by The Presence." Apperantly
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#55 dragonmaster64
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]"Superman Prime is the second most powerful being that has ever existed in the DC multiverse only surpassed by The Presence." Apperantly

so that leaves only marvel to debate since DC hes pretty much second strongest.
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#56 ThisIsTwoFace
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The Presence would beat Superman Prime.

The Presence is the creator of the DC Universe and everything in it. Superman Prime is nothing but a mere creation compared to The Presence. The Presence can easily destroy what he creates.

The Spectre would also beat Superman Prime.

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#57 dragonmaster64
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yes i clearly stated that the presence was not aloud. also whats the powers of the spectre? is he the equivalent to the beyonder?
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#58 TheFallenDemon
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Squirrel Girl

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#59 dragonmaster64
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what her feats? seems as if its a joke though.
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#60 Capitan_Kid
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[QUOTE="TheFallenDemon"]

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what her feats? seems as if its a joke though.

She kicked Doom's ass. He fears her.
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#61 dragonmaster64
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[QUOTE="dragonmaster64"][QUOTE="TheFallenDemon"]

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what her feats? seems as if its a joke though.

She kicked Doom's ass. He fears her.

lol so its a joke i see. how does luficer morningstar beat super man prime 1 million when the wiki says hes only second to the presence.
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#62 th3warr1or
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"Superman Prime is the second most powerful being that has ever existed in the DC multiverse only surpassed by The Presence." Apperantlythemajormayor


how does luficer morningstar beat super man prime 1 million when the wiki says hes only second to the presence.dragonmaster64

I should point out that wikis are not reliable.

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#63 dragonmaster64
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]"Superman Prime is the second most powerful being that has ever existed in the DC multiverse only surpassed by The Presence." Apperantlyth3warr1or


how does luficer morningstar beat super man prime 1 million when the wiki says hes only second to the presence.dragonmaster64

I should point out that wikis are not reliable.

then what are superman prime 1 millions feats, if we cant use the wikis?
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#64 th3warr1or
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then what are superman prime 1 millions feats, if we cant use the wikis?dragonmaster64

I'm not saying that you can't use the wiki. It's nice for a quick summary, but I would take everything on the wiki with a grain of salt. Unless there's a particular comic issue that explicitly stated that Superman Prime was #2 in DCU, it's an assumption. That's all.

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#65 one_plum
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He'll always be under the Creator.

The guy who works at DC comics.

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#66 metroidprime55
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I created a character once who lived in the multiverse and could easily end entire universes at will. It took a lot of energy and some time but he was capable of essentially being Galactus but on a universal scale. He could probably beat him. Now character in the DC universe...no, Superman Prime is overpowered.
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#67 th3warr1or
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I created a character once who lived in the multiverse and could easily end entire universes at will. It took a lot of energy and some time but he was capable of essentially being Galactus but on a universal scale. He could probably beat him. Now character in the DC universe...no, Superman Prime is overpowered.metroidprime55

Galactus is on a universal scale.

As far as Superman Prime being overpowered.. Probably, but he has no feats.

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#68 dragonmaster64
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so what did he exactly do in the comics?
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#69 th3warr1or
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so what did he exactly do in the comics?dragonmaster64
I have no idea. I rarely read DC comics, and the only DC comics I read were the ones during their Golden Age.
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#70 deactivated-59d151f079814
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... How is this thread still going on? "My imaginary character can beat up your imaginary character!"..
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#71 ShadowJax04
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To answer your question, yes. The Presence can destroy Superman Prime.
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#72 dragonmaster64
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To answer your question, yes. The Presence can destroy Superman Prime.ShadowJax04
read my original post.
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#73 ShadowJax04
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Like a normal hero/villion nothing like The one above all, presence, living tribunal..etc dragonmaster64

My bad. Then to answer your question, no one can destroy Superman Prime. Well, except for....

 

http://marvel.com/universe/Mephisto

He's not exactly a living tribunal. It does get a little vague when otherwordly demons are thrown into the mix, though. 

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... How is this thread still going on? "My imaginary character can beat up your imaginary character!".. sSubZerOo
The same way people spend thousands on college courses that discuss Shakespeare.
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#78 frannkzappa
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Spiderman can.

****-you-im-spider-man-60s-spiderman.jpe