Can anyone beat Superman Prime (1 000 000)

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#1 Posted by dragonmaster64 (6096 posts) -

Like a normal hero/villion nothing like The one above all, presence, living tribunal..etc just other heroes and stuff.

Yea i find heroes and villans interesting although i didnt read a single comic book i used the internet to educate me. : D

so who?

 

http://superman.wikia.com/wiki/Superman_Prime

and those who ignore my post time and time again

this is what he can do.

Immunity- Superman Prime is imune to magic, kryptonite, lightning, mental manipulation, ect.

Creation - Superman Prime is able to create lifeforms out of nothing.

Resurrection - Superman Prime can resurrect the dead and himself.

Omniscience - Superman Prime has possibly learned everything in his time in the sun.

Omnipotence - Superman prime has near limitless abilties as far as we can see.

Omnipresent - Superman Prime can be any where at any time.

All Kryptonian powers under a Yellow Sun. All of his Kryptonian powers are enhanced.

Godlike Super strength - His strength is limitless, he is capable of lifting his own multi-verse.

Godlike Super speed - His speed is incomprehensible to even the abstract beings.

Godlike Super Senses

Godlike Xray vision - He can see through any solid object, with no exceptions.

Godlike Heat vision - A million times hotter than the center of the sun.

Godlike Super Stamina/Endurance - Capable of surviving the end of the Multiverse.

Godlike Invulnerability - Capable of surviving the end of the Multiverse.

Godlike Super Hearing - Cosmic Awareness.

Immortality - Superman Prime, will live until the end of Reality.

#2 Posted by Riverwolf007 (23618 posts) -

seeing as how supermans power is to pull any power he needs out of his ass when he needs it no.

nobody can beat him.

#3 Posted by dragonmaster64 (6096 posts) -

seeing as how supermans power is to pull any power he needs out of his ass when he needs it no.

nobody can beat him.

Riverwolf007
that was pre crysis superman, those days are long gone.
#4 Posted by rilpas (8222 posts) -
The one Above All. He's basically God
#5 Posted by MacBoomStick (1948 posts) -

Batman

#6 Posted by FMAB_GTO (14385 posts) -
Acnologia.
#7 Posted by Oleg_Huzwog (21885 posts) -

Flash.  Prime is terrified of anyone wearing a Flash costume.

#8 Posted by mindstorm (15242 posts) -

One-Above-All comes to mind. I quote, "As the supreme being of the Omniverse, the One-Above-All is Omnipotent, Omnipresent, Omniscient and Omniversal, infinitely above all cosmic powers and abstract entities, even the Living Tribunal."

#9 Posted by dragonmaster64 (6096 posts) -

One-Above-All comes to mind. I quote, "As the supreme being of the Omniverse, the One-Above-All is Omnipotent, Omnipresent, Omniscient and Omniversal, infinitely above all cosmic powers and abstract entities, even the Living Tribunal."

mindstorm
thanks for reading my original post..... I already said to exclude TOAA

Flash.  Prime is terrified of anyone wearing a Flash costume.

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Oleg_Huzwog
can you explain why he fears the flash? although he fears them if it was a one on one he would still win.
#10 Posted by dragonmaster64 (6096 posts) -

Flash.  Prime is terrified of anyone wearing a Flash costume.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/37499/912333-0_prime_super.jpg" alt=" " />

Oleg_Huzwog
thats superboy prime not superman prime. theres two superman prime, one just prime the other 1000000 this is 1 million http://superman.wikia.com/wiki/Superman_Prime
#11 Posted by Hatiko (4514 posts) -

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

seeing as how supermans power is to pull any power he needs out of his ass when he needs it no.

nobody can beat him.

dragonmaster64

that was pre crysis superman, those days are long gone.

"crysis" lol. We aren't using Crisis on Infinite Earths anymore? Now we're using a video game to divide the DC timeline? And ignore riverwolf. He goes into every superman thread ever and says the same exact thing without ever explaining himself.

#12 Posted by dragonmaster64 (6096 posts) -

[QUOTE="dragonmaster64"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

seeing as how supermans power is to pull any power he needs out of his ass when he needs it no.

nobody can beat him.

Hatiko

that was pre crysis superman, those days are long gone.

"crysis" lol. We aren't using Crisis on Infinite Earths anymore? Now we're using a video game to divide the DC timeline? And ignore riverwolf. He goes into every superman thread ever and says the same exact thing without ever explaining himself.

well he was right pre crisis superman could literally pull anything out of his @ss. lol. at some points he could read minds.
#13 Posted by EVOLV3 (12209 posts) -

"Superman Prime is the second most powerful being that has ever existed in the DC multiverse only surpassed by The Presence." That's from the site you posted. Btw, The One Above All is Marvel. The Anti-Monitor might put up a fight though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Monitor

#14 Posted by Hatiko (4514 posts) -

[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

[QUOTE="dragonmaster64"] that was pre crysis superman, those days are long gone.dragonmaster64

"crysis" lol. We aren't using Crisis on Infinite Earths anymore? Now we're using a video game to divide the DC timeline? And ignore riverwolf. He goes into every superman thread ever and says the same exact thing without ever explaining himself.

well he was right pre crisis superman could literally pull anything out of his @ss. lol. at some points he could read minds.

Well, he could also do supermath. That was when he was just for little kids so he could do anything, ANYTHING. Then after the DoS the comic kind of kept and aged with the fanbase of that time.

#15 Posted by dragonmaster64 (6096 posts) -

"Superman Prime is the second most powerful being that has ever existed in the DC multiverse only surpassed by The Presence." That's from the site you posted. Btw, The One Above All is Marvel. The Anti-Monitor might put up a fight though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Monitor

EVOLV3
hmm it seems i missed that part. so i guess galactus would have no chance against him?
#16 Posted by dragonmaster64 (6096 posts) -
dont be shyyyyy
#17 Posted by lonewolf604 (8518 posts) -
Zombie Sentry from Marvel Zombies
#18 Posted by dragonmaster64 (6096 posts) -
Zombie Sentry from Marvel Zombies lonewolf604
explain what he can do/ his feats.
#19 Posted by Blazerdt47 (5661 posts) -
Runeking Thor would mop the floor with Superman Prime.
#20 Posted by lonewolf604 (8518 posts) -
[QUOTE="lonewolf604"]Zombie Sentry from Marvel Zombies dragonmaster64
explain what he can do/ his feats.

He infected the Marvel Universe with an alien virus. Even Thor turned.... Nah, Marvel Zombies is outlandish. I don't even know.
#21 Posted by LordQuorthon (5322 posts) -

After reading a few wikias about Superman Prime, I'm going to say Doctor Manhattan has a chance, but only a chance. 

#22 Posted by TheWalkingGhost (5244 posts) -
Yes. Lord Quorthon would kick is punk azz!
#23 Posted by dragonmaster64 (6096 posts) -

After reading a few wikias about Superman Prime, I'm going to say Doctor Manhattan has a chance, but only a chance. 

LordQuorthon
but even manhatten has a weakness which i believe is tachyons. or the speed of tachyons.
#24 Posted by dragonmaster64 (6096 posts) -
Runeking Thor would mop the floor with Superman Prime. Blazerdt47
rune king thor just has power he doesnt have omnipotence, ombnivelence..etc. this is superman prime 1000 000 not the other one remember.
#25 Posted by mindstorm (15242 posts) -
[QUOTE="mindstorm"]

One-Above-All comes to mind. I quote, "As the supreme being of the Omniverse, the One-Above-All is Omnipotent, Omnipresent, Omniscient and Omniversal, infinitely above all cosmic powers and abstract entities, even the Living Tribunal."

dragonmaster64
thanks for reading my original post..... I already said to exclude TOAA

Flash.  Prime is terrified of anyone wearing a Flash costume.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/37499/912333-0_prime_super.jpg" alt=" " />

Oleg_Huzwog
can you explain why he fears the flash? although he fears them if it was a one on one he would still win.

My reading comprehension seems to be a bit low as I never even saw that.
#27 Posted by Capitan_Kid (6550 posts) -

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]

One-Above-All comes to mind. I quote, "As the supreme being of the Omniverse, the One-Above-All is Omnipotent, Omnipresent, Omniscient and Omniversal, infinitely above all cosmic powers and abstract entities, even the Living Tribunal."

dragonmaster64

thanks for reading my original post..... I already said to exclude TOAA

Flash.  Prime is terrified of anyone wearing a Flash costume.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/37499/912333-0_prime_super.jpg" alt=" " />

Oleg_Huzwog

can you explain why he fears the flash? although he fears them if it was a one on one he would still win.

IIRC He fears the flash because he and the older flash trapped him in the Speed Force. That is until he was freed.

Edit: Well it was Barry, Wally, and Jay. They drive him into the Speed Force and banish him to a parellel world with a prison bathed in red sunlight

#28 Posted by MakeMeaSammitch (3817 posts) -

Pheonix could.

#29 Posted by TheWalkingGhost (5244 posts) -

This thread is very stupid because Superman doesn't exist. They are fantasy.

You guys must live in a fantasy world if you believe that Superman really exists.

pariah3
Please tell me you are joking? Please tell me you aren't really stupid enough to take this seriously?
#30 Posted by painguy1 (8686 posts) -

So is superman Prime Clark Kent or his decendent?

#31 Posted by Blazerdt47 (5661 posts) -

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"] Runeking Thor would mop the floor with Superman Prime. dragonmaster64
rune king thor just has power he doesnt have omnipotence, ombnivelence..etc. this is superman prime 1000 000 not the other one remember.

Ok this is Thor with Odin Force.

 

  • HelpeThor dent Captain America's shield
  • Odin used it to create a galaxy then destroy it
  • With The Odin Force, Thor takes two nukes out of his chest without injury
  • Kills Captain America while destroying his shield
  • Kills Wolverine while destroying him and his Adamantium bones.
  • Thor has used the Odin Force to cure a man of his terminal cancer.
  • Thor has used the Odin Force to stop time itself.
  • Odin used it to cut out the heart of a star, with which it was used to forge and empower the legendary hammer Mjolnir.
  • Odin used it to bring back to life both Thor and Brunnhilde.(Valkyrie)
  • By channeling the Odin Force into his sacred hammer Mjolnir, Thor decapitated the nigh-invincible Destroyer Armor with one strike.
  • Thor used the Odin Force to not only become the supreme ruler of Earth itself, but also eliminate all of its hero's and villains that opposed him.
  • Odin used it to transform the cursed Nibelling rings into the gigantic Oversword of Asgard.(now known as the Odinsword)
  • Thor used it to destroy the Blood Axe of Skurge the Executioner, stating that only the Odin Force was capable of doing so.
  • Thor used the Odin Force to restore not only the floating city of Asgard on Earth, but also restored the lives of all the Asgardians who were lost after Ragnarok.
  • Odin used it to create and empower Stormbreaker, the hammer of Beta Ray Bill.
  • Odin used it to create and empower the Uru mace Thunderstrike, as a gift to Eric Masterson for all his heroic efforts in Asgard's name.
  • Odin used it to trap Surtur within his own body, becoming a living prison for the fire Elemental.
  • Odin used it to save the life of Eric Masterson by merging his life force with that of Thor's.
#32 Posted by dragonmaster64 (6096 posts) -
ok comparing to superman prime it says he is second only to the presence which is marvel equivalent of TOAA. so is RKT second to the TOAA? it just says superman prime has god like strength...etc. and a bit of omni..etc. in the end its hard to compare them. but he is immune to magic...not resistant.
#34 Posted by sSubZerOo (43155 posts) -
So basically he is like Dr. Manhattan..
#35 Posted by dragonmaster64 (6096 posts) -
So basically he is like Dr. Manhattan.. sSubZerOo
manhattens weakness are tachyons or anything with the speed of tachyons. prime can do this.
#36 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

Rune King Thor.

Chaos King Amatsu-Mikaboshi. -- He is the void.

Scathan the Approver. -- Will simply disapprove. (I'm not kidding. It was a terrible Deus-Ex Machina, but yeah).

Galactus at the end of this Universe's cycle. -- Will eat him.

Living Tribunal. -- Enforces the laws of the Marvel Multiverse.

Tiamut The Dreaming Celestial.

The Presence. -- DC Universe's god.

 

 

#37 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

ok comparing to superman prime it says he is second only to the presence which is marvel equivalent of TOAA. so is RKT second to the TOAA? it just says superman prime has god like strength...etc. and a bit of omni..etc. in the end its hard to compare them. but he is immune to magic...not resistant.dragonmaster64

Being second to someone doesn't mean that a lot of people can't share that role.

There could be dozens tied for second. And we don't know whether Presence is strictly = TOAA. Therefore second to Presence could theoretically be 3rd or 4th to TOAA; I ain't saying that it is, but that's possible because we don't know TOAA = Presence.

#38 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -
Runeking Thor would mop the floor with Superman Prime. Blazerdt47
QFT.
#39 Posted by dragonmaster64 (6096 posts) -

[QUOTE="dragonmaster64"]ok comparing to superman prime it says he is second only to the presence which is marvel equivalent of TOAA. so is RKT second to the TOAA? it just says superman prime has god like strength...etc. and a bit of omni..etc. in the end its hard to compare them. but he is immune to magic...not resistant.th3warr1or

Being second to someone doesn't mean that a lot of people can't share that role.

There could be dozens tied for second. And we don't know whether Presence is strictly = TOAA. Therefore second to Presence could theoretically be 3rd or 4th to TOAA; I ain't saying that it is, but that's possible because we don't know TOAA = Presence.

well we do know TOAA=the presence. they are pretty much The* God, no one is higher in each others universe they are equal. all though the writers didnt state this they are pretty much The God. I understand RKT power i just dont understand what he has to beat prime. RKT has power but is that all he has/?
#40 Posted by Blazerdt47 (5661 posts) -

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

[QUOTE="dragonmaster64"]ok comparing to superman prime it says he is second only to the presence which is marvel equivalent of TOAA. so is RKT second to the TOAA? it just says superman prime has god like strength...etc. and a bit of omni..etc. in the end its hard to compare them. but he is immune to magic...not resistant.dragonmaster64

Being second to someone doesn't mean that a lot of people can't share that role.

There could be dozens tied for second. And we don't know whether Presence is strictly = TOAA. Therefore second to Presence could theoretically be 3rd or 4th to TOAA; I ain't saying that it is, but that's possible because we don't know TOAA = Presence.

well we do know TOAA=the presence. they are pretty much The* God, no one is higher in each others universe they are equal. all though the writers didnt state this they are pretty much The God. I understand RKT power i just dont understand what he has to beat prime. RKT has power but is that all he has/?

I'll just show you this. Look at the pics.

Rune King Thor Feats

#41 Posted by dragonmaster64 (6096 posts) -

[QUOTE="dragonmaster64"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

Being second to someone doesn't mean that a lot of people can't share that role.

There could be dozens tied for second. And we don't know whether Presence is strictly = TOAA. Therefore second to Presence could theoretically be 3rd or 4th to TOAA; I ain't saying that it is, but that's possible because we don't know TOAA = Presence.

Blazerdt47

well we do know TOAA=the presence. they are pretty much The* God, no one is higher in each others universe they are equal. all though the writers didnt state this they are pretty much The God. I understand RKT power i just dont understand what he has to beat prime. RKT has power but is that all he has/?

I'll just show you this. Look at the pics.

Rune King Thor Feats

people still go both ways.
#42 Posted by Blazerdt47 (5661 posts) -

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

[QUOTE="dragonmaster64"] well we do know TOAA=the presence. they are pretty much The* God, no one is higher in each others universe they are equal. all though the writers didnt state this they are pretty much The God. I understand RKT power i just dont understand what he has to beat prime. RKT has power but is that all he has/?dragonmaster64

I'll just show you this. Look at the pics.

Rune King Thor Feats

people still go both ways.

Bro, Superman Prime 1,000,000 is virtually featless, even so, he can't compare to RKT.

Now with this pic we see that Thor himself was on that level of power (and more since he killed all of them). behold Thor merged with Universe just before he went in some sort of Odinsleep.     

Note that every atribut of Thor (strength, durability, OdinForce he had in that time ... ) was skyrocketed. He killled several being which were on abstract/elder- god level with ease menaning that he is abstract/elder-god level team buster (one tier above those tiers at least).  

017Thor.jpg

#43 Posted by dragonmaster64 (6096 posts) -
because hes featless it just makes it harder. im not sure but i think in the end it may be a tie? the only thing that carries weight is that superman prime is second to the presence which is equivalent to TOAA.
#44 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

because hes featless it just makes it harder. im not sure but i think in the end it may be a tie? the only thing that carries weight is that superman prime is second to the presence which is equivalent to TOAA.dragonmaster64

Claims mean nothing. Anyone can claim anything. Without feats to back up those claims, they're worthless. You can't say that because he's 2nd to Presence, he's automatically going to be 2nd to TOAA, especially since the difference in power between the LT (2nd in MU) and the TOAA is not marginal -- the TOAA is an infinite amount stronger than the Living Tribunal.

well we do know TOAA=the presence. they are pretty much The* God, no one is higher in each others universe they are equal. all though the writers didnt state this they are pretty much The God. I understand RKT power i just dont understand what he has to beat prime. RKT has power but is that all he has/?dragonmaster64

What I mean is that while both are essentially "The God" in their Universes, we don't know how powerful they are with regard to each other.

Also, being #2 to the Presence just means that there's no one in the DCU stronger than Superman Prime than the Presence. It doesn't mean that there CAN'T be in another universe. In other words, if on a power scale of 1-10, the Presence (and TOAA for discussion's sake) were 10, and Superman Prime is a 7, he could be #2 in DCU just because there is no one on that scale with 8 or 9. Being 2nd to the Presence doesn't mean he's 9.9; it just means that he's 2nd. 

Ranking is relative, and not an objective platform of which to judge characters. Just because someone is second to the Presence doesn't mean that he'd be second to the TOAA, because the TOAA is NOT the Presence, and they're in separate [fictional] realities.

Just to illustrate this point, I made a quick graph (Note: NOT to scale).

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/6395/83684858.png

 

See, while both TOAA and Presence are supreme in their respective Universes, the "2nds" in their Universes are not necessarily equal. In MU, LT is #2. In DCU, Superman Prime is. But as you can see in that graph, the #2 in DCU is on par with the #4 in MU, and the #2 in MU is vastly stronger. This doesn't detract from Superman Prime being #2 in DCU, and again, this graph is not "accurate," but it does suffice for the purpose of illustrating my point.

#45 Posted by dragonmaster64 (6096 posts) -
so what your saying is that in the end we will never trully know?
#46 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

so what your saying is that in the end we will never trully know?dragonmaster64
Yeah. Cause they're both fictional. :P

#47 Posted by dragonmaster64 (6096 posts) -

[QUOTE="dragonmaster64"]so what your saying is that in the end we will never trully know?th3warr1or

Yeah. Cause they're both fictional. :P

because both their powers are both outside the window. its very hard to tell but maybe a stalemate?
#48 Posted by Lord_Omikron666 (4753 posts) -

Demonbane

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#49 Posted by dragonmaster64 (6096 posts) -
marvel and DC only.
#50 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

[QUOTE="dragonmaster64"]so what your saying is that in the end we will never trully know?dragonmaster64

Yeah. Cause they're both fictional. :P

because both their powers are both outside the window. its very hard to tell but maybe a stalemate?

A stalemate would imply that we know what their standing with relation to each other is  -- we don't. Hence the necessity for feats.