Bullied teen leaves chilling video

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="NiKva"]This thread is here, too? Its her own fault for exposing her breasts to internet strangers, and the whole situation escalates because she didn't decide to just delete "friends" off of her facebook, call the cops on the people harassing her (they could have gone to jail for child pornography), or just deleting her Facebook all together.Pirate700

[QUOTE="VanHelsingBoA64"]

Still waiting for you to reply to my previous post, btw.

Pirate700

Let's say she wasn't dead. Who would you suggest she talk to? It seems from the article that the police and teachers were aware of what was going on. VanHelsingBoA64

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] bro, victim blaming is bad. l4dak47

Let's say she wasn't dead. Who would you suggest she talk to? It seems from the article that the police and teachers were aware of what was going on. VanHelsingBoA64

]Tell her parents and have them deal with it. Or if it's really bad, and for some reason the school won't do anything you can always go to another school. It's drastic but it's a lot better than suicide.

[QUOTE="VanHelsingBoA64"]

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

But ultimately I agree with you, Pirate, you just gotta deal with it man. Kids are mean, fact of life, and overreacting and expelling kids over namecalling or even fighting is horrible imo. OK OK so a kid gave another kid a bloody nose, lets go ruin the bully's future by expelling him and sending him to Juvi. Freaking overreactino now.

Pirate700

Would you say that in cases such as this (where harassment continues over a long period of time), that it would be better for the victim's life be ruined through drug addiction, mental illness, suicide, etc?

[QUOTE="VanHelsingBoA64"]

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

But ultimately I agree with you, Pirate, you just gotta deal with it man. Kids are mean, fact of life, and overreacting and expelling kids over namecalling or even fighting is horrible imo. OK OK so a kid gave another kid a bloody nose, lets go ruin the bully's future by expelling him and sending him to Juvi. Freaking overreactino now.

Pirate700

Would you say that in cases such as this (where harassment continues over a long period of time), that it would be better for the victim's life be ruined through drug addiction, mental illness, suicide, etc?

[QUOTE="VanHelsingBoA64"]

Let's say she wasn't dead. Who would you suggest she talk to? It seems from the article that the police and teachers were aware of what was going on. Pirate700

]Tell her parents and have them deal with it. Or if it's really bad, and for some reason the school won't do anything you can always go to another school. It's drastic but it's a lot better than suicide.

She went to multiple schools.

[QUOTE="VanHelsingBoA64"]

Let's say she wasn't dead. Who would you suggest she talk to? It seems from the article that the police and teachers were aware of what was going on. Pirate700

]Tell her parents and have them deal with it. Or if it's really bad, and for some reason the school won't do anything you can always go to another school. It's drastic but it's a lot better than suicide.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="VanHelsingBoA64"]

Let's say she wasn't dead. Who would you suggest she talk to? It seems from the article that the police and teachers were aware of what was going on. Oleg_Huzwog

]Tell her parents and have them deal with it. Or if it's really bad, and for some reason the school won't do anything you can always go to another school. It's drastic but it's a lot better than suicide.

She went to multiple schools.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="VanHelsingBoA64"]

Let's say she wasn't dead. Who would you suggest she talk to? It seems from the article that the police and teachers were aware of what was going on. Aljosa23

]Tell her parents and have them deal with it. Or if it's really bad, and for some reason the school won't do anything you can always go to another school. It's drastic but it's a lot better than suicide.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="VanHelsingBoA64"]

Let's say she wasn't dead. Who would you suggest she talk to? It seems from the article that the police and teachers were aware of what was going on. Oleg_Huzwog

]Tell her parents and have them deal with it. Or if it's really bad, and for some reason the school won't do anything you can always go to another school. It's drastic but it's a lot better than suicide.

She went to multiple schools.

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

]Tell her parents and have them deal with it. Or if it's really bad, and for some reason the school won't do anything you can always go to another school. It's drastic but it's a lot better than suicide.

Pirate700

She went to multiple schools.

Yep. Perpetual habit of self-destructive behavior. But, y'know, it's simpler to blame bullies.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="VanHelsingBoA64"]

Let's say she wasn't dead. Who would you suggest she talk to? It seems from the article that the police and teachers were aware of what was going on. Aljosa23

]Tell her parents and have them deal with it. Or if it's really bad, and for some reason the school won't do anything you can always go to another school. It's drastic but it's a lot better than suicide.

Wow, lol. You have a very twisted view of strong and weak.lo_Pine

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

She went to multiple schools.

Oleg_Huzwog

Yep. Perpetual habit of self-destructive behavior. But, y'know, it's simpler to blame bullies.

This is exactly my main point about looking to the root of the problem and not just the result. She clearly suffered from personal issues. Again, this in no way makes the bullying OK, but there are other issues which are at the root here but this story is spun into another bully story instead of what the core of the issue was.

Pirate700

Holy sh*t the victim blaming in this thread. We're like,this close to "she was asking for it dressing that way" territory.

[QUOTE="lo_Pine"]Wow, lol. You have a very twisted view of strong and weak.Aljosa23

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

This is exactly my main point about looking to the root of the problem and not just the result. She clearly suffered from personal issues. Again, this in no way makes the bullying OK, but there are other issues which are at the root here but this story is spun into another bully story instead of what the core of the issue was.

Aljosa23

Holy sh*t the victim blaming in this thread. We're like,this close to "she was asking for it dressing that way" territory.

Slow_Show

Meaning... what... you think blame must be pointed in one direction, and one direction only? I'm not seeing many people (if any) claim that the bullies are blameless.

I didn't say she wasn't bullied. I'm just tired of the bullying being seen as the root of problems with these kids when more often than not, as with this case, it isn't. Everyone should be against bullying but it's starting to hit the slippery slope where if you ever say anything nasty to anyone, you have to fear for your own legal well being because that person may do something to themselves. Our society has completed shifted all blame off individuals own actions and issues in recent times and, IMO, it's just as alarming as anything else.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I didn't say she wasn't bullied. I'm just tired of the bullying being seen as the root of problems with these kids when more often than not, as with this case, it isn't. Everyone should be against bullying but it's starting to hit the slippery slope where if you ever say anything nasty to anyone, you have to fear for your own legal well being because that person may do something to themselves. Our society has completed shifted all blame off individuals own actions and issues in recent times and, IMO, it's just as alarming as anything else.

Aljosa23

She wasn't beat up by a group of people. It was one person, with a group gathered to watch.

Right and she said everything we better after that...until, again, she made more bad mistakes. You see a trend here?

Pirate700

That wasn't the case.

"She put the next card almost flush with camera so that the viewer can no longer see her and only sees "After I got home all I saw on Facebook- She deserved it and did you wash the mud out of your hair? I hope she is dead."

She moved in with her mother in another city, to another school. But her past followed her.

"6 months has gone by ... people are pasting pics of bleach, clorex (sic) and ditches ... Everyday I think why am I still here,""

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I didn't say she wasn't bullied. I'm just tired of the bullying being seen as the root of problems with these kids when more often than not, as with this case, it isn't. Everyone should be against bullying but it's starting to hit the slippery slope where if you ever say anything nasty to anyone, you have to fear for your own legal well being because that person may do something to themselves. Our society has completed shifted all blame off individuals own actions and issues in recent times and, IMO, it's just as alarming as anything else.

Aljosa23

She wasn't beat up by a group of people. It was one person, with a group gathered to watch.

Oleg_Huzwog

Your solution is really to just never say anything that another person might not like? And I'm clearly not against people owning their own actions since that's my whole point. And of course she didn't deserve anything of this. I'm saying just blaming bullying for her suicide instead of her own depression and personal issues is ridiculously short sighted.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Your solution is really to just never say anything that another person might not like? And I'm clearly not against people owning their own actions since that's my whole point. And of course she didn't deserve anything of this. I'm saying just blaming bullying for her suicide instead of her own depression and personal issues is ridiculously short sighted.

Aljosa23

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Your solution is really to just never say anything that another person might not like? And I'm clearly not against people owning their own actions since that's my whole point. And of course she didn't deserve anything of this. I'm saying just blaming bullying for her suicide instead of her own depression and personal issues is ridiculously short sighted.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]No, my solution is not to be terrible people towards each other. That's not the same as saying something that one might not like. Okay, so what caused her suicide if it wasn't bullying? She made it pretty clear that it was from the video and article.

Aljosa23

Meaning... what... you think blame must be pointed in one direction, and one direction only? I'm not seeing many people (if any) claim that the bullies are blameless.

Oleg_Huzwog

Kind of? I mean fair enough, the girl made some mistakes, but they kind of pale in comparison to being persistently bullied for years on end? I guess we could tally things up and figure out exactly where this falls on the Objective Continuum of Blame, but that kind of sounds like a dickish way of finding out yep, turns out the blame almost entirely falls on the disturbing number of people who collectively bullied her to the point of suicide.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]This doesn't sound like the kind of depression that something causes. This sounds a lot more like the mental illness. VanHelsingBoA64

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

Meaning... what... you think blame must be pointed in one direction, and one direction only? I'm not seeing many people (if any) claim that the bullies are blameless.

Slow_Show

Kind of? I mean fair enough, the girl made some mistakes, but they kind of pale in comparison to being persistently bullied for years on end? I guess we could tally things up and figure out exactly where this falls on the Objective Continuum of Blame, but that kind of sounds like a dickish way of finding out yep, turns out the blame almost entirely falls on the disturbing number of people who collectively bullied her to the point of suicide.

Don't you think the "dickish" way is more responsible than taking a tragic story full of important details and grossly over-simplifying it all down to "Bullies did it"?

This doesn't sound like the kind of depression that something causes. This sounds a lot more like the mental illness. And spare me the 'are you trolling' shlt. You know me better than that.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

This doesn't sound like the kind of depression that something causes. This sounds a lot more like the mental illness. And spare me the 'are you trolling' shlt. You know me better than that.

Aljosa23

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

This doesn't sound like the kind of depression that something causes. This sounds a lot more like the mental illness. And spare me the 'are you trolling' shlt. You know me better than that.

Aljosa23

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

This doesn't sound like the kind of depression that something causes. This sounds a lot more like the mental illness. And spare me the 'are you trolling' shlt. You know me better than that.

l4dak47

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

]Tell her parents and have them deal with it. Or if it's really bad, and for some reason the school won't do anything you can always go to another school. It's drastic but it's a lot better than suicide.

lo_Pine

Try putting a gun to your head and erasing everything and everyone you ever saw or met.

It is not easy to go through with suicide. People say it is an easy way out. It's not.

Yea, pirate really doesn't know what he's talking about. Pirate, you just sound like an assh*le and an uneducated one at that, too. l4dak47

Not always. If your gold fish dies and you're depressed, you have depression. And I said it was an illness in the second sentence.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]It's easy to say it like that after the fact. Someone who is depressed regardless of the circumstances isn't in a right state of mind and isn't thinking properly. You saying she should just go see something is an obvious solution but how do you know she didn't try already? Besides, suicide is a sad, sad, thing and it takes someone incredibly strong to go through with it.

Optical_Order

Try putting a gun to your head and erasing everything and everyone you ever saw or met.

It is not easy to go through with suicide. People say it is an easy way out. It's not.

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Her depression caused it. Unless they actually made her kill herself, she did so on her own. Nobody made her do anything.

Pirate700

Jesus fvck you are a retard.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Not always. If your gold fish dies and you're depressed, you have depression. And I said it was an illness in the second sentence.

Aljosa23

[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

[QUOTE="lo_Pine"] Wow, lol. You have a very twisted view of strong and weak.lo_Pine

Try putting a gun to your head and erasing everything and everyone you ever saw or met.

It is not easy to go through with suicide. People say it is an easy way out. It's not.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Is this a joke or are you trolling? And what caused her depression and anxiety? Those kids bullying her. :|

Optical_Order

Jesus fvck you are a retard.

[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]It's easy to say it like that after the fact. Someone who is depressed regardless of the circumstances isn't in a right state of mind and isn't thinking properly. You saying she should just go see something is an obvious solution but how do you know she didn't try already? Besides, suicide is a sad, sad, thing and it takes someone incredibly strong to go through with it.

Optical_Order

Try putting a gun to your head and erasing everything and everyone you ever saw or met.

It is not easy to go through with suicide. People say it is an easy way out. It's not.

Right, that's what I'm saying, dude. You're arguing with me when we're trying to make the same exact point.

Pirate700