Boy 11 Denied $50,000 Hockey Shot Prize

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#1 PcGamingRig
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Because his identical twin brother bought the entry ticket.

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The father decided to own up that it was the wrong twin that took the shot.

Instead 20,000 was donated to youth hockey in the state.

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#2 comp_atkins
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Because his identical twin brother bought the entry ticket.

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The father decided to own up that it was the wrong twin that took the shot.

Instead 20,000 was donated to youth hockey in the state.

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should have followed the rules.
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#3 weezyfb
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who cares who bought the ticket.. pay up cheapos

yes they post here and will see this

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Local candy retailers must be devastated.
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#5 Alter_Echo
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Just another example of how honesty is overrated.

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#6 deactivated-58a5e8ead9efe
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Just another example of how honesty is overrated.

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That seems to be the case, sadly.

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#7 Kagai13
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God. They admitted to their fault and that wasn't much of cheating... I mean... What does it teach a 11 years old boy? "Don't be honest". I'm sure he'll never make this mistake again.
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#8 flazzle
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They didn't follow the rules, thus they cheated.

Whether or not you think the rules are stupid or not, when you buy the ticket you agree with the rules.

Unless the rules state you can transfer the ticket or something close, I fail to see why they should get anything.

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#9 Chogyam
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Old news. The funny thing is, they would have gotten away with it, except the father called after they got home and confessed it was the twin brother...

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#10 The_Gaming_Baby
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Confessing that you cheated does not change the fact that you cheated. And a cheater does not deserve the prize. Yeah it sucks, but that's what happens in life.

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#11 PcGamingRig
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Confessing that you cheated does not change the fact that you cheated. And a cheater does not deserve the prize. Yeah it sucks, but that's what happens in life.

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the trick shot wasn't exactly easy to pull off though.

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#12 jdc6305
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If he was dumb enough to tell them he took his brothers place he deserves to be broke. Nice people never finish first in life.

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#13 zmbi_gmr
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Silly father listening to that obnoxious little voice in his head that says that you should do the right thing. Look where it got them. lol

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#14 flazzle
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[QUOTE="The_Gaming_Baby"]

Confessing that you cheated does not change the fact that you cheated. And a cheater does not deserve the prize. Yeah it sucks, but that's what happens in life.

PcGamingRig

the trick shot wasn't exactly easy to pull off though.

I'm not seeing what difficulty has to do with it cheating.

If it was easy to pull off, would it change anything?

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#15 deactivated-59d151f079814
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.... That was pretty dumb.. There was no way the people could know.. Even then what difference does it make? They were identical twins 11 years old and it was extremely hard to do..
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#16 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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It was a pretty lame thing for the company to do.

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#17 CammiTac
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What is the point of having an identical twin if you can't get away with stuff like this?

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#18 cs45FF
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That sucks i would have taken the cash and ran honesty goes nowhere in this world anymore with all the legal bull crap surrounding everything now.
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#19 Oleg_Huzwog
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Twins pretending to be each other creep me out.

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#20 flazzle
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I look at it like this:

First, I think it's pretty great a company has a giveaway of $50,000.

For those saying 'Well, it was so HARD to do...'

It has nothing to do with anything. Maybe thats why they are giving away $50,000!

Now imagine YOU are giving away $50k. You are going to make up some rules other than drawing a name and you win.

If not, that 50k doesn't mean much to you.

More likely than not, the company itself doesn't pay the $50, but they have an insurance policy that will pay the money in case someone wins. This is most likely the third party sticking to the rules anyway because THEY have to pay amount.

Regardless of who is paying, there is not little thought into the amount given and the ODDS that they will have to pay.

If they limited the contest to just hockey players, most likely they will have to pay.

If they limited it to just little girls, most likely they will not. These are extreme examples, but the fact that the rules state whoever is drawn must shoot keeps the odds under control. If you could just switch it to anyone, its more likely they will have to pay out.

If you put yourself in the shoes of the person footing the bill, they are ownly protecting their own promotion.

The father was wrong IN THE FIRST PLACE to try to pull a fast one. I can kind of understand though, because what are the odds your name is going to be called in the first place? It would be tough to let that go. But it doesn't make it right.

If you think this company is a stickler for the rules, try casinos.

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#21 flazzle
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Twins pretending to be each other creep me out.

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unless they are hot females and you are dating one of them.

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#22 jeremiah06
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Just another example of how honesty is overrated.

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Sad but true...
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#23 Oleg_Huzwog
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

Twins pretending to be each other creep me out.

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unless they are hot females and you are dating one of them.

Been there, done that, and it was still creepy.

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#24 austi722
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Shouldn't have told them.But I would be like F*** it I want my money.And start an angry mob to get my money.

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#25 deactivated-5e97585ea928c
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That's a lot of money.. i would have lied.
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#26 PcGamingRig
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[QUOTE="PcGamingRig"]

[QUOTE="The_Gaming_Baby"]

Confessing that you cheated does not change the fact that you cheated. And a cheater does not deserve the prize. Yeah it sucks, but that's what happens in life.

flazzle

the trick shot wasn't exactly easy to pull off though.

I'm not seeing what difficulty has to do with it cheating.

If it was easy to pull off, would it change anything?

because its not like they used an autobot to get the puck through the hole, that would be blatant cheating and unfair on other people attempting it.

it was only a different 11 year old person playing the same difficult shot.

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#27 Moriarity_
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[QUOTE="PcGamingRig"]

[QUOTE="The_Gaming_Baby"]

Confessing that you cheated does not change the fact that you cheated. And a cheater does not deserve the prize. Yeah it sucks, but that's what happens in life.

flazzle

the trick shot wasn't exactly easy to pull off though.

I'm not seeing what difficulty has to do with it cheating.

If it was easy to pull off, would it change anything?

The other son might have missed the shot. You can never be certain.
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#28 cs45FF
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The other funny part is why give only $20000 to charity when you were about to give $50000 to random people i would think it would help the charity more.
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#29 MushroomWig
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Why own up? What was the point?
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#30 scorch-62
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I had a feeling that would happen. Honesty sucks.
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#31 sthadji
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Hang on a second. There's something fishy going on here. It says here that the father had told him to go and have a go at it. Don't they announce the name of the participant anyway? So the father must've known something too.

"Nick, the brother whose name was on the ticket, had gone outside with his friends when Mr Smith told his other son, Nate, to have a go at the trick shot."

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#32 CaveJohnson1
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Should have either followed the rules or kept his mouth shut.

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#33 flazzle
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[QUOTE="flazzle"]

[QUOTE="PcGamingRig"]the trick shot wasn't exactly easy to pull off though.

PcGamingRig

I'm not seeing what difficulty has to do with it cheating.

If it was easy to pull off, would it change anything?

because its not like they used an autobot to get the puck through the hole, that would be blatant cheating and unfair on other people attempting it.

it was only a different 11 year old person playing the same difficult shot.

But if you allow the concept of changing the participant after someone is called, you are allowing someon to select someone better at accomplishing the goal, which is NOT what the contest is about. The original chosen son could suck at it and the other son could be very good. not autobot good, but the concept is the same.

the contest is created such that who ever name is called, must make the shot. The guy did something dishonest and made his son an accomplice.

This company didn't have to give ANYTHING away, created rules, and this guy broke them, and everyone is hating on the company?!?! Give me a break.

Everyone is so open to making it OK to switch whose name is called. But I bet if it effected you you wouldnt allow it.

Imagine if the contest drew 3 names, and who ever scores first wins it all. Now, the 'kid' is first, and you are number 2. The kid wins, ruining your chances. Then you find out the wrong kid made the winning shot before you. Are you going to let it slide with the above approved cheating logic?

I doubt anyone here would.

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#34 ZumaJones07
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I wouldn't have said anything in the first place. Pretty sure any life lesson they gained from being honest about this could have been achieved another way. It's friggin $50,000! :P
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#35 flazzle
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I wouldn't have said anything in the first place. Pretty sure any life lesson they gained from being honest about this could have been achieved another way. It's friggin $50,000! :PZumaJones07

Whats all this talk about 'being honest' when the father was dishonest in the first place!

It's almost like stealing something that isn't fairly yours, then returning it and expecting to keep what you stole.

Not only that, it's possible these kids can't keep a secret. There is always a blabber mouth, especially kids. Plus im sure it made the local news and someone that knows the family or friends at school will say 'Hey, that wasn't you!' and then the scandal erupts days or weeks later.

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#36 PerfectCircles
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I wouldn't have fessed up.
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#37 LJS9502_basic
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They cheated.....but at least the youth hockey association benefited.
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#38 blackacidevil96
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made the shot. give him the money. no one cheated. its not like he was trading places the michael jordon for a free throw contest.

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[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]I wouldn't have said anything in the first place. Pretty sure any life lesson they gained from being honest about this could have been achieved another way. It's friggin $50,000! :Pflazzle

Whats all this talk about 'being honest' when the father was dishonest in the first place!

It's almost like stealing something that isn't fairly yours, then returning it and expecting to keep what you stole.

Not only that, it's possible these kids can't keep a secret. There is always a blabber mouth, especially kids. Plus im sure it made the local news and someone that knows the family or friends at school will say 'Hey, that wasn't you!' and then the scandal erupts days or weeks later.

Guess didn't think it all the way through. screenshot
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#40 Commander-Gree
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Cheap ass company should have paid up. Would have made their company look good and taught the lesson that honesty is the best policy.
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#41 UnknownSniper65
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Just another example of how honesty is overrated.

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pretty much

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#42 DJ_Headshot
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Should have kept his mouth shut and would be be 50 grand richer now.
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#43 foxhound_fox
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Um... identical twins share the same DNA. How is that cheating exactly?
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You tell the truth after you get rewarded, damn it do like OJ.
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#45 DJ-Lafleur
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If $50,000 was on the line, the last thing I would be thinking about is giving my kids a lesson on honesty.

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#46 MrGeezer
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Um... identical twins share the same DNA. How is that cheating exactly?foxhound_fox

Um...I'm pretty sure that having an identical twin doesn't make both of you the same person.

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#47 chessmaster1989
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Pretty douchy move by the company tbh.
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#48 LJS9502_basic
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Um... identical twins share the same DNA. How is that cheating exactly?foxhound_fox
Because they are still two different individuals....not the same.
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#49 UniverseIX
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did the other twin brother have some set of special training to nail hockey shots? if n... then it shouldn't make a difference.
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#50 UprootedDreamer
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Why would the dad do that? I mean 50,000 dollars richer...