Australian Comedian On Gun Control In The US

What "assault rifles" does Ruger make available for public purchase in the US? I know that they sell ARs, but they're just semi-auto long-barrel rifles, no "assault rifles."

I own a Mini-14...great rifle! Kinda funny that I don't think I've ever heard this rifle come up in "scary guns!" debates, but has practically the same specs as guns such as the AR-15 which is most commonly targeted.

I was just using "assault rifle" as a shorter way of saying evil, black, hi-capacity, semi-automatic, AR rifle.

But Ruger makes a couple variants of gas piston AR's, including one in .308, a Direct Impingement AR, which is half the price of the gas ones, and then the Mini-14.

All of which I can get at 40% off MSRP. :D

Mini-14 is a pretty great varmint rifle.

And the AR isn't? Don't get me wrong, I like the Mini, it has a look to it I like, and it's tough as Charlie Sheen's liver.

@Hexagon_777: I think this is absolute funny coming from someone who´s country have immigration and refugee politics that has every human rights advocate up in arms.

So i would love to hear his views on that.

I don't own an AR but I see a lot of complaints about them being high maintenance/finicky.

Though granted most of them were on AK forums and a buddy who owns one has never complained.

Mods am i right(fml) keep crying to the mods BOY!!!

I didnt continue to post, Why reply to a old post i had made days before i told you i wanted to stop arguing with you on the subject it makes no sense, and you tell me to stop lol, I obviously had every intention of stopping which is evident in me saying i dont want to argue with you anymore, i told you that yesterday, and you go and kick it all off again by replying to a post a made a couple days ago.

When i posted that i didnt want to argue anymore you replied saying you agree that even one childs life bla bla blaa..... and i left it at that, that was yesterday. Then like a little dirty snake you went and found a post i had made 2 days ago and you carry on with your bullshit, and you have the cheek to tell ME to stop.

Surely thats harassment mods?

Some of you really took him seriously. His style is kind of ignorant but that's where the jokes come from.

Sorry I had to turn him off. He really doesn't seem educated in the issue and is just going for laughs. Comedians aren't actually interested in facts.

I guess when you have nothing intelligent to say just blurt out something stupid with a lol and move on....

@richietickles: A Mini 14 is on my short list of next gun purchases. I'm jealous of you.

@korvus

I did not realize it was an old post, I was seeing this thread for the first time and thought it was new and that you (ariabed) were engaging in anti-gun discussion again. It was not the same topic so I didn't know where you were coming from. I see that now in your reply, I didn't have my coffee yet...my bad.

I apologize, I am big enough to do that.

We take it seriously because it reflects real ideology and stances on this subject. Besides there is an old saying, for comedy to be funny there has to be some truth to it.

@Hexagon_777: I think this is absolute funny coming from someone who´s country have immigration and refugee politics that has every human rights advocate up in arms.

So i would love to hear his views on that.

I though the US had the highest by a long way gun related murders in the western world? My bad!

There are common sense things that should definitely be done when it comes to gun control.. Such as closing the gun show loop hole.. Or having a more rigorous background check.. I think banning of all weapons is as silly as the opposing side suggesting we should all carry one..

There is no such thing as a gun show loophole.

You may want to read into a little event called the Columbine shooting in which 3 of the 4 weapons used were procured with out any kind of background checks through a gun show.

You may want to read into a little event called the Columbine shooting in which 3 of the 4 weapons used were procured with out any kind of background checks through a gun show.

And you might want to do a little research of your own. He's absolutely right that there's no such thing as a "gun show loophole" or any special exception to gun purchase when at a gun show versus any where else. When you purchase gun from a licensed dealer, background checks are mandatory. That's true whether you're buying in store or at a gun show. 95% of the seller at a gun show are FFLs (or Federal Firearm Licensee). What you are referring to is a private sale between two individuals whom are both state residents. In some states, background checks are not required for private transactions. Again it doesn't have to be at a gun show, such private sales can take place anywhere. In those cases, the responsibility falls on the sellers to make sure that the buyers are state residents and they are not prohibited from owning firearms (i.e. felons). Since the last official record for the weapon is the person that brought it from FFL, any guns used in a crime can be traced to the seller. If the seller didn't do right by the law in vetting the buyer they can faced criminal charges. Which is why all of the private sales I was part of, everyone always double check ids and keep copies of each other's info.

BTW background checks wouldn't have prevented the two Columbine shooters from buying the weapons since neither of them had prior criminal records.

33 states do not require background checks for private sales.. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/10/17689167-background-checks-for-guns-what-you-need-to-know?lite That more than accounts than just "some states".. The reason why they call it a gunshow loop hole is because it predominately happens there, but your point doesn't disprove my point that there is a loophole... If anything it points out the even greater problem is it can happen anywhere when it comes to private sales.

Except it's not a loophole and it doesn't predominately happen at a gun show, not since the internet. The term is a loaded word like assault weapons or high capacity magazines. By using them you already established yourself firmly on one side and it doesn't leave much room for debate.

And you've failed to touch upon the fact that background checks wouldn't have stop Columbine shooters in acquiring weapons.

He's misinformed and he's not going to replace truth with the BS he's been fed. rib really is a lost soul because to him feelings matter more than truth.

EDIT: Also, the only private sellers I think I've ever seen at shows have been guys selling antiques and black powder guns.

Except it's not a loophole and it doesn't predominately happen at a gun show, not since the internet.

But it is known as that.. I don't care what you decide to call it, it is something that a great deal many people see it as a issue.. IN which 33 states there doesn't need a background check.

The term is a loaded word like assault weapons or high capacity magazines.

We aren't talking about those and I haven't stated my opinion on either one.. Your muddying the water.

By using them you already established yourself firmly on one side and it doesn't leave much room for debate.

Now your poisoning the well. No where did I say guns should be banned, or went into assault rifle bans or other such things... If I were firmly on one side? Wouldn't I say assault rilfes and pistols should be banned? Oh that's right I didn't, your the one that is making the dumbass assumptions..

And you've failed to touch upon the fact that background checks wouldn't have stop Columbine shooters in acquiring weapons.

Nor did I ever state it would.. I pointed out it got huge attention because of that event.. That this certain legal matter could allow people to purchase weapons with out any kind of background check what so ever.. Why don't you see this as a problem? If you already support this, which from the sounds you do, than why wouldn't you want this to be written into law? It isn't going to curb 2nd amendment rights and it will solidify any kind of confusion in this regard.

@Hexagon_777: I think this is absolute funny coming from someone who´s country have immigration and refugee politics that has every human rights advocate up in arms.

So i would love to hear his views on that.

With so many scrutiny over guns these days, very few gun owners are willing to risk selling to someone who might use the guns for criminal acts and having that trace back to them. So now, private sellers will ask for conceal weapon permit or let FFL handle the transaction w/background checks.

So you're saying that responsible gun owners are being safe and responsible even when they are selling their guns? This goes against everything the liberal media and Everytown espouse.

Why would you guys be against this law if it doesn't hinder responsible and safe gun owners to begin with?