Are you willing to remove the name "God" in the American National Anthem?

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Posted by mrduckbears3 (104 posts) 5 months, 30 days ago

Poll: Are you willing to remove the name "God" in the American National Anthem? (70 votes)

Yes. It's time to separate God and the National Anthem. 43%
No. I don't believe in God but that word is a part of America and it should remain there.. 14%
No. I'm a firm believer in God & Jesus Christ and i am not comfortable with it removed! 16%
I'm not American 27%

let's see what people think :p

#1 Posted by mccoyca112 (5433 posts) -

A non believer, but it's nothing to get all pissy about, and it's part of our nation's history. Think of it as filler if it'll help you sleep at night..

#2 Edited by Aljosa23 (24542 posts) -

ITT: appeal to tradition fallacies everywhere

#3 Posted by lostrib (33042 posts) -

Its inclusion doesn't bother me

#4 Posted by The-Apostle (12141 posts) -

I didn't even know God was mentioned in the National Anthem, since I've only ever heard the first verse.

#5 Edited by Riverwolf007 (23412 posts) -

who the hell even knows whats in the anthem?

after the first few lines everyone just hums.

#6 Posted by hippiesanta (9757 posts) -

Atheist easily get's pissy these days

#8 Edited by -ParaNormaN- (711 posts) -

Come on dog... DOG is GOD in reverse. In America, Dog is mans best friend. We need things to be said in reverse so that we can hold on to hopes that the Illuminati that Kanye West, Jay-Z and Beyonce created is 4,000 years old... The same age as our beloved devil driven planet. So HELLLL NAHHH. I'd be pissed as a mofo if the word GOD/DOG was removed from the anthem. Check yourself before you wreck yourself.

#9 Posted by Blue-Sky (10315 posts) -

As far as anyone is concerned, the star spangled banner doesn't go past the first verse where God is never mentioned.

#10 Posted by SolidSnake35 (58034 posts) -

No one cares about God anymore. It's all about the gays and alcopops..

#11 Posted by hippiesanta (9757 posts) -

No one cares about God anymore. It's all about the gays and alcopops..

gays also easily gets offended these days ...... too many people eaasily gets offended

#12 Posted by Master_Live (13955 posts) -

Let it be.

#13 Posted by FreedomFreeLife (1972 posts) -

As a european i say this: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GOD. Never was, never will be. Its only a brainwash. So yeah, remove god in money and from song. This looks stupid. Europe looks at USA with wierd face, they all ask: "what the hell americans thinking, do they really brainwashed so much that they belive in god?"

#14 Posted by LJS9502_basic (149986 posts) -

As a european i say this: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GOD. Never was, never will be. Its only a brainwash. So yeah, remove god in money and from song. This looks stupid. Europe looks at USA with wierd face, they all ask: "what the hell americans thinking, do they really brainwashed so much that they belive in god?"

What a crock. Not all Europeans are atheists.

#15 Posted by k2theswiss (16598 posts) -

shouldn't never be there or at least not expected to be said

#16 Edited by toast_burner (21293 posts) -

As part of a song it doesn't really matter. But it should have no place on your money or pledge of allegiance (I still find it odd that even exists let alone mentions god in it) The whole "in god we trust" nonsense was just America overreacting to the soviet union making it's self officially an atheist country.

The cold war is over now, move on America.

#17 Posted by Aljosa23 (24542 posts) -

pledge of allegiance (I still find it odd that even exists let alone mentions god in it)

Yes. This is by far the creepiest Americanism.

#18 Posted by vfibsux (4205 posts) -

Even if you do not believe in God there is such a thing as culture and tradition. You can embrace Christian values without being a Christian. But of course this is not what American culture is anymore, we have gone from Christian values to being labeled a hero for coming out as being gay. Progress is defined by how many states legalize pot and gay marriage. This country has been turned upside down by the current regime and their minority of heathens. We need to take this country back, deport all of you leftists to California, and hope it sinks into the sea in the near future.

#19 Edited by yixingtpot (1337 posts) -

only completely deluded, insane people think some God has anything to do with the evil crap that goes on in the world. It's people that are responsible for the effects we have on each other and on the reality of our ecosystem that sustains our state of being.

#20 Posted by Motokid6 (5114 posts) -

Don't care. SoL is my god.

#21 Posted by Storm_Marine (10767 posts) -
@Aljosa23 said:

@toast_burner said:

pledge of allegiance (I still find it odd that even exists let alone mentions god in it)

Yes. This is by far the creepiest Americanism.

>person living in constitutional monarchy complaining about "creepiness". Heh.

#23 Edited by DaBrainz (7623 posts) -

Never understood people being offended by religion.

#24 Posted by Aljosa23 (24542 posts) -

@Aljosa23 said:

@toast_burner said:

pledge of allegiance (I still find it odd that even exists let alone mentions god in it)

Yes. This is by far the creepiest Americanism.

>person living in constitutional monarchy complaining about "creepiness". Heh.

Dat red herring. Come on, you can do better than that. :(

#25 Edited by Storm_Marine (10767 posts) -

@Aljosa23 said:

@Storm_Marine said:
@Aljosa23 said:

@toast_burner said:

pledge of allegiance (I still find it odd that even exists let alone mentions god in it)

Yes. This is by far the creepiest Americanism.

>person living in constitutional monarchy complaining about "creepiness". Heh.

Dat red herring. Come on, you can do better than that. :(

just pointing that out bro

#26 Posted by AmazonTreeBoa (16744 posts) -

Our anthem has god in it. Remove it and it is no longer our anthem. It is just some song and I wouldn't recognize it as our anthem. I wouldn't stand at games or anything as it played.

#27 Posted by lostrib (33042 posts) -

As a european i say this: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GOD. Never was, never will be. Its only a brainwash. So yeah, remove god in money and from song. This looks stupid. Europe looks at USA with wierd face, they all ask: "what the hell americans thinking, do they really brainwashed so much that they belive in god?"

what in the fuck are you talking about?

#28 Edited by elkoldo (958 posts) -

I ain't no American , but I think most Americans would choose to stick with it.

Edit : I just cast my vote and am shocked to see the results , JESUS CHRIST !

#29 Posted by vfibsux (4205 posts) -

This forum is such a liberal tool hole.

#30 Posted by GamerForca (7073 posts) -

who the hell even knows whats in the anthem?

after the first few lines everyone just hums.

I think it goes something like: "God is great, God is good, let us thank Him for our food. By His hands, we all are fed, give us lord our daily bread. Amen."

Or something like that.

#31 Posted by Kevlar101 (5993 posts) -

@vfibsux said:

This forum is such a liberal tool hole.

Conservatives are so easily discouraged.

They all seem like they should be in anger management or something.

#32 Posted by playmynutz (5969 posts) -

@Riverwolf007 said:

who the hell even knows whats in the anthem?

after the first few lines everyone just hums.

I think it goes something like: "God is great, God is good, let us thank Him for our food. By His hands, we all are fed, give us lord our daily bread. Amen."

Or something like that.

Amen.

#33 Edited by V3rciS (2207 posts) -

@SolidSnake35 said:

No one cares about God anymore. It's all about the gays and alcopops..

gays also easily gets offended these days ...... too many people eaasily gets offended

Atheist easily get's pissy these days

God does not exist and even this mythical creation would exist still it'd sucked.

Now get easily offended.

#34 Posted by bforrester420 (1201 posts) -

Frankly, I think "America the Beautiful" would make a better National Anthem than "The Star Spangled Banner".

#35 Edited by musicalmac (22814 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife said:

As a european i say this: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GOD. Never was, never will be. Its only a brainwash. So yeah, remove god in money and from song. This looks stupid. Europe looks at USA with wierd face, they all ask: "what the hell americans thinking, do they really brainwashed so much that they belive in god?"

What a crock. Not all Europeans are atheists.

I wonder if he's heard of the Pope.

#36 Edited by bforrester420 (1201 posts) -

@vfibsux said:

This forum is such a liberal tool hole.

Social conservatives have, on average, a lower IQ than liberals according to numerous studies.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/millennial-media/201304/do-racism-conservatism-and-low-iq-go-hand-in-hand

#37 Edited by musicalmac (22814 posts) -

If we made a thread about the best way in which to waste one's time, this idea would be smack dab in the middle. Anytime these sorts of issues pop up, it's usually a big waste of everybody's time.

#38 Posted by GazaAli (22492 posts) -

@vfibsux said:

This forum is such a liberal tool hole.

Social conservatives have, on average, a lower IQ than liberals according to numerous studies.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/millennial-media/201304/do-racism-conservatism-and-low-iq-go-hand-in-hand

You didn't rofl

Hasn't that turned out to be a hoax anyway? Not that it matters as the claim is utterly and entirely moronic and there's absolutely nothing scientific about it. It seems people get to say anything these days as long as they slap the slogan of "scientists say" et al on whatever they have to say.

I'm kind of starting to feel that liberalism is the new conservatism.

#39 Edited by bforrester420 (1201 posts) -

@GazaAli said:

@bforrester420 said:

@vfibsux said:

This forum is such a liberal tool hole.

Social conservatives have, on average, a lower IQ than liberals according to numerous studies.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/millennial-media/201304/do-racism-conservatism-and-low-iq-go-hand-in-hand

You didn't rofl

Hasn't that turned out to be a hoax anyway? Not that it matters as the claim is utterly and entirely moronic and there's absolutely nothing scientific about it. It seems people get to say anything these days as long as they slap the slogan of "scientists say" et al on whatever they have to say.

I'm kind of starting to feel that liberalism is the new conservatism.

There are a large number of studies. Read the article. The proposed reason behind the correlation makes intuitive sense.

#40 Posted by lostrib (33042 posts) -

@GazaAli said:

@bforrester420 said:

@vfibsux said:

This forum is such a liberal tool hole.

Social conservatives have, on average, a lower IQ than liberals according to numerous studies.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/millennial-media/201304/do-racism-conservatism-and-low-iq-go-hand-in-hand

You didn't rofl

Hasn't that turned out to be a hoax anyway? Not that it matters as the claim is utterly and entirely moronic and there's absolutely nothing scientific about it. It seems people get to say anything these days as long as they slap the slogan of "scientists say" et al on whatever they have to say.

I'm kind of starting to feel that liberalism is the new conservatism.

It's just a correlational study

"What this study and those before it suggest is not necessarily that all liberals are geniuses and all conservatives are ignorant. Rather, it makes conclusions based off of averages of groups. The idea is that for those who lack a cognitive ability to grasp complexities of our world, strict-right wing ideologies may be more appealing. Dr. Brian Nosek explained it for the Huffington Post as follows, “ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simple solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies.” "

#41 Edited by LJS9502_basic (149986 posts) -

@vfibsux said:

This forum is such a liberal tool hole.

Social conservatives have, on average, a lower IQ than liberals according to numerous studies.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/millennial-media/201304/do-racism-conservatism-and-low-iq-go-hand-in-hand

Eh.....I don't know about that. I've known people that switched political parties. I don't think their IQ drastically changed.

#42 Posted by HoolaHoopMan (7720 posts) -

@vfibsux said:

Even if you do not believe in God there is such a thing as culture and tradition. You can embrace Christian values without being a Christian. But of course this is not what American culture is anymore, we have gone from Christian values to being labeled a hero for coming out as being gay. Progress is defined by how many states legalize pot and gay marriage. This country has been turned upside down by the current regime and their minority of heathens. We need to take this country back, deport all of you leftists to California, and hope it sinks into the sea in the near future.

The sweet sweet tears of social conservatives. So butt hurt at the world's attempt to shrug off bronze age mythologies, grant equality, and embrace science.

#43 Edited by lamprey263 (22671 posts) -

You must be referring to the Pledge Of Allegiance, and yes it should be removed. It's not even like it's this old tradition or anything that's been around since the beginning of the nation, it's basically only a few decades old, and it shouldn't be preserved out of tradition or anything, because there is really none.

#44 Posted by CountBleck12 (22494 posts) -
@DaBrainz said:

Never understood people being offended by religion.

I don't really see it that way, can religion annoy some in their everyday lives however? Yes.

#45 Edited by -ParaNormaN- (711 posts) -

@lamprey263: The Star Spangled Banner has 4 verses. In the 4th, it has "And this be our motto: "In God is our trust"

O say can you see by the dawn's early light,

What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming,

Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight,

O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?

And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,

Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there;

O say does that star-spangled banner yet wave,

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore dimly seen through the mists of the deep,

Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,

What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,

As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?

Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,

In full glory reflected now shines in the stream:

'Tis the star-spangled banner, O! long may it wave

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore

That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,

A home and a country, should leave us no more?

Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.

No refuge could save the hireling and slave

From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:

And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave,

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

O thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand

Between their loved home and the war's desolation.

Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the Heav'n rescued land

Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation!

Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,

And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."

And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

EDIT: I tried separating the verses but Gamespot isn't letting me do it. Sorry.

#46 Posted by lostrib (33042 posts) -

@lamprey263: The Star Spangled Banner has 4 verses. In the 4th, it has "And this be our motto: "In God is our trust"

O say can you see by the dawn's early light,

What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming,

Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight,

O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?

And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,

Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there;

O say does that star-spangled banner yet wave,

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore dimly seen through the mists of the deep,

Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,

What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,

As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?

Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,

In full glory reflected now shines in the stream:

'Tis the star-spangled banner, O! long may it wave

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore

That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,

A home and a country, should leave us no more?

Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.

No refuge could save the hireling and slave

From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:

And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave,

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

O thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand

Between their loved home and the war's desolation.

Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the Heav'n rescued land

Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation!

Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,

And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."

And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

EDIT: I tried separating the verses but Gamespot isn't letting me do it. Sorry.

Although we only ever sing the first verse

#47 Posted by lostrib (33042 posts) -

@bforrester420 said:

@vfibsux said:

This forum is such a liberal tool hole.

Social conservatives have, on average, a lower IQ than liberals according to numerous studies.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/millennial-media/201304/do-racism-conservatism-and-low-iq-go-hand-in-hand

Eh.....I don't know about that. I've known people that switched political parties. I don't think their IQ drastically changed.

...I don't think it works like that, it is a correlational study after all

#48 Posted by the_bi99man (11047 posts) -

I haven't sung or even heard the national anthem since grade school. Probably couldn't remember all the words if I tried.

Also, I'm not religious in the least, but I think those who are even the slightest bit disturbed about this subject are just whining for the sake of whining.

#49 Posted by lamprey263 (22671 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@-paranorman- said:

@lamprey263: The Star Spangled Banner has 4 verses. In the 4th, it has "And this be our motto: "In God is our trust"

O say can you see by the dawn's early light,

What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming,

Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight,

O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?

And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,

Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there;

O say does that star-spangled banner yet wave,

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore dimly seen through the mists of the deep,

Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,

What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,

As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?

Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,

In full glory reflected now shines in the stream:

'Tis the star-spangled banner, O! long may it wave

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore

That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,

A home and a country, should leave us no more?

Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.

No refuge could save the hireling and slave

From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:

And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave,

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

O thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand

Between their loved home and the war's desolation.

Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the Heav'n rescued land

Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation!

Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,

And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."

And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

EDIT: I tried separating the verses but Gamespot isn't letting me do it. Sorry.

Although we only ever sing the first verse

The "Defense of Fort M'Henry" has 4 versus, the Star-Spangled Banner is only the first verse, and it's the Star-Spangled Banner that's the National Anthem, not the entirety of "Defense of Fort M'Henry".

#50 Edited by -ParaNormaN- (711 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@-paranorman- said:

@lamprey263: The Star Spangled Banner has 4 verses. In the 4th, it has "And this be our motto: "In God is our trust"

O say can you see by the dawn's early light,

What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming,

Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight,

O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?

And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,

Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there;

O say does that star-spangled banner yet wave,

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore dimly seen through the mists of the deep,

Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,

What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,

As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?

Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,

In full glory reflected now shines in the stream:

'Tis the star-spangled banner, O! long may it wave

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore

That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,

A home and a country, should leave us no more?

Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.

No refuge could save the hireling and slave

From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:

And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave,

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

O thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand

Between their loved home and the war's desolation.

Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the Heav'n rescued land

Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation!

Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,

And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."

And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

EDIT: I tried separating the verses but Gamespot isn't letting me do it. Sorry.

Although we only ever sing the first verse

The "Defense of Fort M'Henry" has 4 versus, the Star-Spangled Banner is only the first verse, and it's the Star-Spangled Banner that's the National Anthem, not the entirety of "Defense of Fort M'Henry".

If that is the case, then this thread shouldn't exist since that part of the poem is not included in our National Anthem. I imagine it would either be impossible to remove the "God" verse or really stupid to do so since it was written as a poem in the first place.