APA Pres: "Open Research [on Homosexuality] Was Never Done"

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#1 jcknapier711
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The title should read, "Former APA Pres: "Unbiased, Open Research [on Homosexuality] Was Never Done" but there is a character limit.

He explains how homosexuality, in relation to psychology, was treated as a political issue, as opposed to a scientific one.

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#2 Master_Live
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What kind of research are we talking about?

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#3 jcknapier711
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@Master_Live said:

What kind of research are we talking about?

The kind of research that is discussed in the video.

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Not surprising, considering largely what is a "disorder" and what isn't is largely dependent on the social-cultural context.

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#5  Edited By -Toshy-
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I think it should be noted that the last time Nicholas Cummings was president of the APA was 1979.

Also, the interview was with a conversion therapy group (not exactly an unbiased organization to be conducting an interview with). He also wrote a book in 2009 called "Psychology's War on Religion".

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#6  Edited By lamprey263
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who needs science when we have anecdotal evidence of corrective actions...

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#7 lostrib
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Considering the crap TC has posted, I don't think he should be criticizing anyone's research

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@lostrib said:

Considering the crap TC has posted, I don't think he should be criticizing anyone's research

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@-Toshy- said:

He also wrote a book in 2009 called "Psychology's War on Religion".

LOL.

That darn human brain, oppressing my cognitive dissonance.

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#10 Masculus
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I believe in him. I've seen some sad things happen in the mental health area, it's all politics.

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I bet a load of morons are going to use this as evidence that being gay is a mental disorder.

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@toast_burner said:

I bet a load of morons are going to use this as evidence that being gay is a mental disorder.

Those people already believe that

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#13  Edited By TheFlush
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unbiased open research is fine, but I don't think it should matter anyway.

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Fortunately Europe did.

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@toast_burner said:

I bet a load of morons are going to use this as evidence that being gay is a mental disorder.

Playing devil's advocate: If no research has been done, who's to say it isn't a mental disorder?

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@airshocker said:

@toast_burner said:

I bet a load of morons are going to use this as evidence that being gay is a mental disorder.

Playing devil's advocate: If no research has been done, who's to say it isn't a mental disorder?

Moot point. who's to say it is?

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@vl4d_l3nin said:

@airshocker said:

@toast_burner said:

I bet a load of morons are going to use this as evidence that being gay is a mental disorder.

Playing devil's advocate: If no research has been done, who's to say it isn't a mental disorder?

Moot point. who's to say it is?

Why would it be a moot point? If there's the possibility that it's a mental disorder it should be researched.

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@airshocker said:

@vl4d_l3nin said:

@airshocker said:

@toast_burner said:

I bet a load of morons are going to use this as evidence that being gay is a mental disorder.

Playing devil's advocate: If no research has been done, who's to say it isn't a mental disorder?

Moot point. who's to say it is?

Why would it be a moot point? If there's the possibility that it's a mental disorder it should be researched.

You can say that about literally everything.

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@toast_burner said:
@airshocker said:

@vl4d_l3nin said:

@airshocker said:

@toast_burner said:

I bet a load of morons are going to use this as evidence that being gay is a mental disorder.

Playing devil's advocate: If no research has been done, who's to say it isn't a mental disorder?

Moot point. who's to say it is?

Why would it be a moot point? If there's the possibility that it's a mental disorder it should be researched.

You can say that about literally everything.

So? I'm not seeing your point. Are you saying it shouldn't be researched?

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#20  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@Trender_man said:

Fortunately Europe did.

Such as?

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@airshocker said:

@vl4d_l3nin said:

@airshocker said:

@toast_burner said:

I bet a load of morons are going to use this as evidence that being gay is a mental disorder.

Playing devil's advocate: If no research has been done, who's to say it isn't a mental disorder?

Moot point. who's to say it is?

Why would it be a moot point? If there's the possibility that it's a mental disorder it should be researched.

It has been researched. It's not a mental disorder.

TC should not be criticizing anyone's research when he posts this garbage: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15825933 (http://auth.spacecat.gamespot.com/forums/offtopic-discussion-314159273/putin-to-gays-they-must-leave-the-children-in-peac-31031529/?page=2), which is written by this lovely human being--http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Cameron

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#22  Edited By dave123321
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Yeah look up the research my friends

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@lostrib said:

@airshocker said:

@vl4d_l3nin said:

@airshocker said:

@toast_burner said:

I bet a load of morons are going to use this as evidence that being gay is a mental disorder.

Playing devil's advocate: If no research has been done, who's to say it isn't a mental disorder?

Moot point. who's to say it is?

Why would it be a moot point? If there's the possibility that it's a mental disorder it should be researched.

It has been researched. It's not a mental disorder.

TC should not be criticizing anyone's research when he posts this garbage: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15825933 (http://auth.spacecat.gamespot.com/forums/offtopic-discussion-314159273/putin-to-gays-they-must-leave-the-children-in-peac-31031529/?page=2), which is written by this lovely human being--http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Cameron

Has it?

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#24  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@lostrib said:

@airshocker said:

@vl4d_l3nin said:

@airshocker said:

@toast_burner said:

I bet a load of morons are going to use this as evidence that being gay is a mental disorder.

Playing devil's advocate: If no research has been done, who's to say it isn't a mental disorder?

Moot point. who's to say it is?

Why would it be a moot point? If there's the possibility that it's a mental disorder it should be researched.

It has been researched. It's not a mental disorder.

TC should not be criticizing anyone's research when he posts this garbage:

How exactly is it researched?

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#25  Edited By lostrib
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@airshocker said:

@lostrib said:

@airshocker said:

@vl4d_l3nin said:

@airshocker said:

@toast_burner said:

I bet a load of morons are going to use this as evidence that being gay is a mental disorder.

Playing devil's advocate: If no research has been done, who's to say it isn't a mental disorder?

Moot point. who's to say it is?

Why would it be a moot point? If there's the possibility that it's a mental disorder it should be researched.

It has been researched. It's not a mental disorder.

TC should not be criticizing anyone's research when he posts this garbage: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15825933 (http://auth.spacecat.gamespot.com/forums/offtopic-discussion-314159273/putin-to-gays-they-must-leave-the-children-in-peac-31031529/?page=2), which is written by this lovely human being--http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Cameron

Has it?

Yes, it does not fit the definition of a mental disorder and homosexual and heterosexual men were indistinguishable on psychological tests

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#26  Edited By Makhaidos
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The current APA president disagrees.

Anyone who argues that homosexuality is, by any scientific standard, a mental disorder is an idiot.

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#27 dave123321
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@Makhaidos: this is OT, evidence doesn't matter. Just how one feels reality is

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#28 one_plum
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Open research? as opposed to what? closeted research?