ANOTHER theater shooting in the gun country...

Hey, look! Guns making us Americans "safer" again. If only the other moviegoers were armed themselves, their guns would have given them eyes in the back of their heads and made them invincible....

I am sure we'll see plenty of GOP politicians parading on TV claiming they "just don't know how this could happen".

This is the problem with gun ownership with lax regulation - people cannot be trusted. Weak guns laws and enforcement are a complete disaster in the USA thanks to the gun lobby and the irrationally paranoid fools who support it.

Just terrible.

Oh shocking!

The answer is obviously more guns

To be fair, anywhere in the world can happen in a split seconds. And next time OP, don't assume guns kill people. People kill people, simple as that.

Yes
In America and Chile

quick everyone in america,

politicize the shit out of this because obviously it's all about you and your concerns and how you can turn grief into an advantage for you because why would you think about anything other than you?

jesus, can you at least wait for the bodies to cool down and show some motherfuckers some sympathy before using peoples blood for your political clout?

We have a serious problem with violence in this country...everything from extremely violent gang-banging crap in inner cities, muslim extremist, to sick white men going on killing sprees. Gun regulation isn't going to fix the underlying problem(s).

For instance, I'm not completely sure but the article says the man had a criminal background...he probably legally didn't have the right to buy a gun anyways.

Violence is everywhere. The problem is how easy it easy for violent people to arm themselves in the States. Sure, guns don't kill people, of course it's the people, but why were these bloodthirsty people able to get their hands on guns so easily in the first place?

If there was no guns, you think violence will be up or down?

@samusbeliskner: Apparently guns are big business in usa generating alot of money and jobs to the country, so they are willing to put up with these tragedies because of that and their love of fire arms.

They consider these events rare and even if the rate of these events increases they prob still will think there is no problem.

Most of those kind of shootings are not done by legal gun owners.

You can think whatever you want about firearms in the US but it's nothing to do with some blind love for firearms, it's the 'love' of personal freedoms and respect for the rights laid out in our constitution.

guns are banned from lafayett theater and someone manage to bring in a gun? when are people going to start obeying the rules?

#Criminals #Mentallyill #Terrorist #PleaseObeyTheRules&Law

i think it's fair to assume now that at least 60% of gun owners in this country have mental problems :P

You see (and I'm sure that you are already aware) this itself is a political strategy. If people can get everyone to be quiet about it for even a little while then it provides time for the country/state to do nothing in terms of future prevention.

Don't worry though riverwolf, 20 kids were murdered in Sandy Hook, and the nation did nothing. The debate is over, and the NRA officially won.

*sigh*

Here we go again...

Paranoia black people you say, where did you'll get to that conclusion?

And subsequent amendments

Exactly! If only all those other people were armed, everyone could have started shooting, making everyone much "safer". :)

Because in the U.S., thanks to irrational paranoia of "black people", the "gubment", and billions spent by the gun lobby, felons can literally buy a gun at a garage sale with no background check and no questions asked in 44 states, with nothing but the honor system stopping them.

If I had to guess, people will start obeying the rules when Americans get serious about enforcing them.

It's probably more than that. I'd be surprised if more than 90% did not have mental issues, particularly a mild form of PPD, paranoid personality disorder. Everyone is out to "get them", there might be a "criminal" hiding around every corner, they need to protect their families from non-existent threats from the "gubment". It's lunacy.

The BBC did a study and determined that some 75% or more of mass shootings in the U.S. were by legal gun owners.

@Serraph105: really? that's what this is about?

or is it about not one motherfucker in this topic saying to the fallen rest in peace?

or giving condolence to the family's of the victims?

or giving another crazy piece of garbage the recognition that he craved so badly that people had to die for him to get it.

because i guarantee you fuckers will know this guys name and bring him up every chance you get from now on but will you know the names of the victims?

does anyone give a shit about them for anything other than what they can be used for?

don't piss on people and tell them it's raining.

90% of 80+ million gun owners, you're talking about 1/4th of the nation. So no.

Anyways more gun control or banning firearms won't solve these issues. These kind of things are going to happen when a nation has so many readily available firearms. The best we can do is to keep teaching people the value of life.

There is no real easy solution. It's easy to just cry out for banning all firearms or implementing more background checks, but that's being ignorant of the cultural and logistical factors of gun ownership in the US. A ban isn't feasible. Not only is there tons of opposition to that, the logistics of such a thing aren't possible. It would take 100+ years to confiscate and destroy enough firearms to bring the USA in line with the other nations.

The other major thing is cultural. Most gun owners aren't paranoid (this is just proof of your ignorance to the culture of shooting and gun ownership). Most do it for sport. There are literally millions of gun owners who shoot each day without killing anybody. Murders by guns and gun owners make up a tiny fraction of the amount of firearms and gun owners out there.

It sucks stuff like this happens. It really does. I do not understand why people can't just kill themselves in peace, that they get hellbent on ruining other lives before they take their own. That's a sickness and the gun isn't the cause. The gun may make it easier to pull off such a thing, but if you remove the gun you still have a sick individual who may harm another. I would prefer we try to treat this stuff at the source rather than blaming all gun owners of being paranoid and crazed maniacs.

@Riverwolf007: My silent prayers and condolences are as useful to the families and victims as me posting them in this forum.

I care very much about the survivors of these situations, but there is nothing I can do for the dead. Trying to prevent more from dying is really the only effective way to honor the victims, but when anyone tries to do so we get told by people like you not to because it's too soon, the bodies are still warm (they're not,but even if they were it wouldn't matter, and don't politicize the situation.

@samusbeliskner:

There is a difference between legal guns and legal guns owners. I want to see some proof since most school shootings have been done by students too young to legally own guns.

@Serraph105: there are no people like me, there is only me.

and if your condolence is useless because it changes nothing then what good is your stance on guns?

you already gave up on that shit too.

i really don't think any of us have any clue what we are about anymore, all that is left kneejerk reactionary-ism, finger pointing and patting ourselves on the back for our progressive stances so we can look at ourselves in the mirror.

Seriously, this.

You get points because people got killed in real life, *slow clap*. You keep winning the internet, OP.

http://www.theonion.com/article/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-36131

Has another member of the "noble class" fallen victim to "mental illness"?

Dang it , again ?! Son of a B**** ! Why man, why ? Killing innocent people has got to stop. Sad

Let's make a law everyone's rights to carry a gun, yay!!... Let's ban guns, yay!!.. Let's not, yay!!....Let's not. yay!!.. Let's kill, yay!!.. Let's not, yay!!.. none of the above gonna be safe, yay!!

For all the might of the left political machine they have done a poor job holding Republicans feet to the fire regarding at least some part of the solutions to this problem, specifically the mental health aspect. Republicans continue to talk about the mental health aspect but I haven't heard of any concrete proposals to that affect. I would take them to task each time one of this situations happened, to work on a bi-partisan way (don't laugh, this Congress has actually passed significant bi-partisan legislation this session) to craft legislation dealing with the mental health aspect of the equation.

And it has to be just mental health (at least at first) to have any chance at passing. Some lefties just wanna go for the home run and don't wanna grind it out for incremental steps. Take their word and run with it. It would be a political win for both parties, you know, aside from addressing the issue.

#mentalillness

We just went from mass shootings in general to school shootings, specifically. Your personal belief has no bearing on reality but it only took a moment on google to start getting into it: Here

The problem is the people who are getting these guns and shooting them probably don't have the licenses and they're probably mentally unstable. They could just get the guns illegally too.

You think a person who goes into a theater and shoots people would be the type of person who'd buy a gun legally? Think again.

@Master_Live: If you want to you can watch the John Oliver episode on gun control, it explains why the left side can but won't do it.

Yes...and you didn't address my point.

I know. It's not my responsibility to serve your requests for information. You are changing the subject from mass shootings to school shootings, so if you want to know how many school shootings were done by underage people, go find out for yourself.

But you need to back up YOUR statements. Thus far you have not. And my point stands.

I already did. I posted a link to an article referencing the information. Not my fault you didn't read it.

Your "point" is not even a point. It was a request for information, one you could serve yourself. You know how to serve yourself, right? :)

I will check that out. Thanks.

y'know..... i don't know how many of you have had a family member murdered.

hopefully none.

if you have never had something taken from you that can never be replaced i'm glad.

if you have never been robbed of something like a parent that will never see his child again or a child that loses what has most likely been his or her whole world then that is the best news i will hear all day.

i don't know if you have ever seen the long term fallout from a family that has had a chunk of it gouged out in a senseless act. the guilt the family experiences, the pain that leads to a whole other host of problems we never bring up or think about once we all get tired of talking about it and move on.

the drinking or drug abuse, the self destructive behavior of survivors, the search for meaning that will never be realized.

and i don't know if you have had this type of personal, private, family devastating grief aired out on national television, and debated on the internet as a cause or had a microphone stuck in your face at a funeral or had your loss and pain turned into a twitter fight or a hashtag or a slogan.

and if you are the type of person that sees something like this and immediately have to throw your 2 cents in about whatever shit is your personal cause there is nothing i will ever say that can shame you because the types of people that do that don't give a shit about anyone else but themselves anyway.

all i can say is this.

**** you.

**** your temporary anger and your crocodile tears.

**** your blame game.

**** your bandwagon sensibility.

**** your tabloid morality.

and **** me too for wasting my time with delivering a message that you will never ever understand or give one single shit about.

reserch n' stuff

Not that rare actually.

There was an NPR report just this very morning

Morning Edition - NPR

Since 2006 there have been more than 200 Mass Killings in the USA.

A Mass Killing is defined by 4 or more people being killed by a single individual at one time.

70% of those killings were done with a gun

Mass Killings - USA Today

Despite all the media sensationalism, mass shooting is still only 1% of all murders in the US. And homicide is only a very tiny faction of all US death. In fact murder doesn't even in the top 10 cause of death. So in relative terms, mass killing is indeed rare.

I think you may need to speak to someone about this aye
But this misdirect of emotion towards members of a gaming forum who were discussing gun violence in the US
Which pretty much happens everyday
Is not the best way to go about things

However tiny it may seem from your perspective
Would shock the rest of the first world