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#51 taterfrickintot
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]It's probably going to turn out the shooter is related to the victims given how they don't remark on it being a home invasion attempt. Also it was a semi-automatic AR-15, not an assault rifle. Also that's fvcking horrible. wis3boi

AR-15 is a assault rifle. These are also semi-automatic and it's the same thing as a regular handgun (not directly towards you, but in general).

assault rifle = full auto

full auto = banned since '84

Indeed. The asthetics of the gun dont make it any more or less deadly, and should play absolutely zero part on whether or not they should be legal.
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I blame MK Ultra
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#53 UnknownSniper65
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The term assault weapon is a relatively new term. Its intentionally close to Assault Rifle as to give them impression that these weapons are automatic. Using the definition gun control advocates use nearly every handgun is an assault weapon. Its term that was invented with the sole purpose of being as broad and scary as could be be.

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#54 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Imagine that....someone that wants to commit a crime finds a way to do so. In other news....the sun is hot.PernicioEnigma
I agree! People who really want to commit a crime are probably going to do so whether we try and stop them or not, so why even try, right?

If you think you can stop all crime you are either ignorant or stupid.....
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#55 Deadpool-n
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[QUOTE="Deadpool-n"]Yeah, because the same thing couldn't have been done with a handgun or a knife...planeforger_basic

I hear this a lot (particularly the knife thing), but I'm honestly curious - do teenagers really commit that many large-scale stabbing incidents, with high mortality rates?

It seems unlikely to me, if only because their arms would get kind of tired after the third or fourth victim. Not to mention the possibilty that a decently strong adult might stand a chance of defending themselves against a kid with a knife, or could at least run out of range of a knife, and so on.

Whether or not his arms get tired is irrelevent, if someone has that much anger or rage and is going for a kill they will typically go to the end whether is is them or their victims. Whatever a person who is going to kill has available they are going to use it. So because he had the rifle available he used that, if he had a pistol he would have used that. It is as simple as that. Knife attacks don't happen as much only because somone usually has something else available. The fact is he obviously wanted them dead and he would have done anything to do it.

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#56 LJS9502_basic
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Whether or not his arms get tired is irrelevent, if someone has that much anger or rage and is going for a kill they will typically go to the end whether is is them or their victims. Whatever a person who is going to kill has available they are going to use it. So because he had the rifle available he used that, if he had a pistol he would have used that. It is as simple as that. Knife attacks don't happen as much only because somone usually has something else available. The fact is he obviously wanted them dead and he would have done anything to do it.Deadpool-n
Fix your quotes.....I never said that....
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#57 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Deadpool-n"]Yeah, because the same thing couldn't have been done with a handgun or a knife...Deadpool-n

I hear this a lot (particularly the knife thing), but I'm honestly curious - do teenagers really commit that many large-scale stabbing incidents, with high mortality rates?

It seems unlikely to me, if only because their arms would get kind of tired after the third or fourth victim. Not to mention the possibilty that a decently strong adult might stand a chance of defending themselves against a kid with a knife, or could at least run out of range of a knife, and so on.

Whether or not his arms get tired is irrelevent, if someone has that much anger or rage and is going for a kill they will typically go to the end whether is is them or their victims. Whatever a person who is going to kill has available they are going to use it. So because he had the rifle available he used that, if he had a pistol he would have used that. It is as simple as that. Knife attacks don't happen as much only because somone usually has something else available. The fact is he obviously wanted them dead and he would have done anything to do it.

That's a whole lot of assuming going on
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#58 Shinobi-Neo
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...I also heard about amok runner in Germany. People shouldn´t be able to own guns.

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Flase flag, I bet ya it is.

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damn video games.
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#61 Deadpool-n
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[QUOTE="Deadpool-n"]Whether or not his arms get tired is irrelevent, if someone has that much anger or rage and is going for a kill they will typically go to the end whether is is them or their victims. Whatever a person who is going to kill has available they are going to use it. So because he had the rifle available he used that, if he had a pistol he would have used that. It is as simple as that. Knife attacks don't happen as much only because somone usually has something else available. The fact is he obviously wanted them dead and he would have done anything to do it.LJS9502_basic
Fix your quotes.....I never said that....

sorry about that, edited it wrong. fixed

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#62 Sphensen
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damn this is Obama's fault so he can take our guns away and let the NWO take over the US by power of the UN so we're forced to have commie healthcare and use fluoride water and breath in chemtrails and become atheists that practice Sharia Lawlamprey263

what he said

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#63 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

AR-15 is a assault rifle. These are also semi-automatic and it's the same thing as a regular handgun (not directly towards you, but in general).

taterfrickintot

assault rifle = full auto

full auto = banned since '84

Indeed. The asthetics of the gun dont make it any more or less deadly, and should play absolutely zero part on whether or not they should be legal.

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#64 SpartanMSU
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Apparently when kids get killed by handguns in doesn't matter as much, even when statistically speaking you're much more likely to get killed by one.

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#65 PernicioEnigma
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[QUOTE="PernicioEnigma"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Imagine that....someone that wants to commit a crime finds a way to do so. In other news....the sun is hot.LJS9502_basic
I agree! People who really want to commit a crime are probably going to do so whether we try and stop them or not, so why even try, right?

If you think you can stop all crime you are either ignorant or stupid.....

My post was SARCASM. I know, people shouldn't be sarcastic on forums...
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Just another average day in other words.
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#68 JustPlainLucas
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This is a domestic shooting involving an"assault rifle". Sad as it may seem, it wouldn't have made national news had it not been tag lined with "assault rifle", which an AR-15 is not. The kid could have easily killed his family with a handgun or shotgun, but since the media's currently focused on "assault rifle", that's what their Google Alerts look for... So of course, they start headlining their articles with "assault rifle" and continue to drive the confusion forward.

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#69 JustPlainLucas
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[QUOTE="PernicioEnigma"] My post was SARCASM. I know, people shouldn't be sarcastic on forums...

LJS misses a lot of sarcasm. To be fair, so do I. To be honest, I would have missed it too.
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#70 dkdk999
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LA Times

I'm sure someone will post a meme saying tic tacs kill more people than assault rifles.

Nuck81
People with their damn logic.
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[QUOTE="PernicioEnigma"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Imagine that....someone that wants to commit a crime finds a way to do so. In other news....the sun is hot.LJS9502_basic
I agree! People who really want to commit a crime are probably going to do so whether we try and stop them or not, so why even try, right?

If you think you can stop all crime you are either ignorant or stupid.....

missing the point, it isn't about stopping ALL crime, its about trying to find ways to reduce crime, wtf is the harm in at least trying?

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="PernicioEnigma"] I agree! People who really want to commit a crime are probably going to do so whether we try and stop them or not, so why even try, right?oldmanriver1

If you think you can stop all crime you are either ignorant or stupid.....

missing the point, it isn't about stopping ALL crime, its about trying to find ways to reduce crime, wtf is the harm in at least trying?

people are trying in thee wrong areas

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[QUOTE="taterfrickintot"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

assault rifle = full auto

full auto = banned since '84

wis3boi

Indeed. The asthetics of the gun dont make it any more or less deadly, and should play absolutely zero part on whether or not they should be legal.

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#74 Drasonak
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Imagine that....someone that wants to commit a crime finds a way to do so. In other news....the sun is hot.LJS9502_basic
Way to trivialize a serious issue with your incessant apathy.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Imagine that....someone that wants to commit a crime finds a way to do so. In other news....the sun is hot.Drasonak
Way to trivialize a serious issue with your incessant apathy.

LOL you don't even know me fool....
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[QUOTE="PernicioEnigma"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Imagine that....someone that wants to commit a crime finds a way to do so. In other news....the sun is hot.LJS9502_basic
I agree! People who really want to commit a crime are probably going to do so whether we try and stop them or not, so why even try, right?

If you think you can stop all crime you are either ignorant or stupid.....

We just need to create the Pre-crime devision with Tom Cruise leading it.

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#77 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="PernicioEnigma"] I agree! People who really want to commit a crime are probably going to do so whether we try and stop them or not, so why even try, right?sSubZerOo

If you think you can stop all crime you are either ignorant or stupid.....

We just need to create the Pre-crime devision with Tom Cruise leading it.

Then we can all sleep safe at night.....yay!
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#78 Drasonak
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[QUOTE="Drasonak"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Imagine that....someone that wants to commit a crime finds a way to do so. In other news....the sun is hot.LJS9502_basic
Way to trivialize a serious issue with your incessant apathy.

LOL you don't even know me fool....

Yes, I'm lucky.
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#79 hartsickdiscipl
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It must be a government conspiracy, individual gun owners are too responsible to do something like this.

theone86

Perhaps not. But they're still more responsible with their weapons than governments that killed 290 million of their own people through democide during the 20th century alone.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Imagine that....someone that wants to commit a crime finds a way to do so. In other news....the sun is hot.Drasonak
Way to trivialize a serious issue with your incessant apathy.

Way to debate the unchangeable.

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#81 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Drasonak"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Drasonak"] Way to trivialize a serious issue with your incessant apathy.

LOL you don't even know me fool....

Yes, I'm lucky.

Nah you're a pathetic kid looking for attention on the internet.
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#82 Drasonak
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Drasonak"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] LOL you don't even know me fool....

Yes, I'm lucky.

Nah you're a pathetic kid looking for attention on the internet.

Dat projecting. You probably think what you said means something to me, but not everyone is as invested in here as you are. :lol:
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Drasonak"] Yes, I'm lucky.Drasonak
Nah you're a pathetic kid looking for attention on the internet.

Dat projecting. You probably think what you said means something to me, but not everyone is as invested in here as you are. :lol:

true story

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Drasonak"] Yes, I'm lucky.Drasonak
Nah you're a pathetic kid looking for attention on the internet.

Dat projecting. You probably think what you said means something to me, but not everyone is as invested in here as you are. :lol:

Projecting? I guess you forgot all the pseudo intellectual attempts you make at threads using copy/paste from text books that you just bought for the college courses you'll undoubtedly not benefit from.......seeking attention here that you don't get elsewhere. Must hurt to be completely invisible in life.

As for the second part....I don't actually give a f*ck what means something to you. You're not important kid.

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So...what should the media do instead? Should they just not make a big deal out of incidents where multiple people get murdered?

I mean, any murder of an innocent person is a bit of a tragedy, and large-scale ones sound like pretty big deals to me.
Provided that they don't give huge publicity to the murderers themselves, these are the sorts of crimes that absolutely should be in the public eye, because if they can be prevented, that would undoubtedly be a good thing.

Planeforger
As I said this is a big country with over 300million people, so someone somewhere is going to do bad things every day. To report on every minor shooting as if it's an unprecedented national tragedy and to have news organizations from other countries reporting on it is absurd.
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[QUOTE="Drasonak"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Nah you're a pathetic kid looking for attention on the internet.LJS9502_basic

Dat projecting. You probably think what you said means something to me, but not everyone is as invested in here as you are. :lol:

Projecting? I guess you forgot all the pseudo intellectual attempts you make at threads using copy/paste from text books that you just bought for the college courses you'll undoubtedly not benefit from.......seeking attention here that you don't get elsewhere. Must hurt to be completely invisible in life.

As for the second part....I don't actually give a f*ck what means something to you. You're not important kid.

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10/10 would read again, has anybody ever been b*tchslapped so hard on this forum before?


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[QUOTE="Planeforger"]So...what should the media do instead? Should they just not make a big deal out of incidents where multiple people get murdered?

I mean, any murder of an innocent person is a bit of a tragedy, and large-scale ones sound like pretty big deals to me.
Provided that they don't give huge publicity to the murderers themselves, these are the sorts of crimes that absolutely should be in the public eye, because if they can be prevented, that would undoubtedly be a good thing.

Laihendi

As I said this is a big country with over 300million people, so someone somewhere is going to do bad things every day. To report on every minor shooting as if it's an unprecedented national tragedy and to have news organizations from other countries reporting on it is absurd.

The media gives people what they want.

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#88 tenaka2
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Much anger in this topic, such a heated issue. I like the way the gun nut crowd act like kids having their toys taken away.

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#90 cryemocry
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Much anger in this topic, such a heated issue. I like the way the gun nut crowd act like kids having their toys taken away.

tenaka2
government and criminals will have guns and you wont. That's being F8cked
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#92 cryemocry
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gov is scared of the public having guns because they arent fully in power untill they have your guns.

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Much anger in this topic, such a heated issue. I like the way the gun nut crowd act like kids having their toys taken away.

tenaka2

And people wonder why its difficult to have a mature conversation about American politics.

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#94 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Much anger in this topic, such a heated issue. I like the way the gun nut crowd act like kids having their toys taken away.

cryemocry

government and criminals will have guns and you wont. That's being F8cked

The fact you believe that your own government is out for you says a lost about the American psyche.

Next you will wheel out the classic 'House Invasion Scenario'

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[QUOTE="cryemocry"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Much anger in this topic, such a heated issue. I like the way the gun nut crowd act like kids having their toys taken away.

tenaka2

government and criminals will have guns and you wont. That's being F8cked

The fact you believe that your own government is out for you says a lost about the American psyche.

Next you will wheel out the classic 'House Invasion Scenario'

the government has guns so why cant the public disarm the government?
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#97 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="cryemocry"] government and criminals will have guns and you wont. That's being F8cked cryemocry

The fact you believe that your own government is out for you says a lost about the American psyche.

Next you will wheel out the classic 'House Invasion Scenario'

the government has guns so why cant the public disarm the government?

Do you the u.s. defence forces?

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#99 cryemocry
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The cops werent there to protect me when i was playing on a playground with tunnels when i was a kid and a kid pulled a pocket knife out on me and acted like he was gonna stab me and started chasing me through the tunnels.

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#100 cryemocry
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Say you live near bears lol one starts to run at you well looks like you're one dead mother F*cker lol because the government took your gun away.