$700 Billion bailout, what do you think?

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#1 Singularity22
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I think this goes to show what happens when government sticks their nose in the free market in the first place.
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#3 joey101010
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Apparently, it passed today at $1 trillion.
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#4 Singularity22
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Apparently, it passed today at $1 trillion.joey101010

For the love of god, you must be joking!

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#5 joey101010
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Read these 2 articles. They seem to have a bit of conflicting information, but from what I've gathered, the initial payout will be $250 million and it will continue from there. Not sure if it caps at $700 billion or $1 trillion.

http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/536641/2119021

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/380982_meltdown29.html

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#6 Singularity22
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I cannot believe this crap. Anyway, I look at this crooks face and he seems to be saying this,

"I cornholed your mother, did you know?"

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#7 joey101010
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Yep. It's extremely frustrating and pretty disheartening, but there's nothing we can do.
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#8 rzepak
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America is so broken...I do not understand how something like this is allowed to pass in a Democratic country unless the population actually agrees with it, which I am not sure it does. The grinning faces on that photo say it all. The rich get richer the poor get poorer the idea on which modern america is built on. That and lack of common sense...Sarah Pailin? REALLY?
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#9 famicommander
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*waits for 700 billion dollar sitting on my ass bailout* I don't seem to be making any money.
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#10 Slaveways
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I'm don't think our economy is in as dire peril as Paulson warns. I'm not really qualified to say whether the bailout is a good idea but based on what I've heard from people like Ron Paul, it seems like this deal will only perpetuate the problem.
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#11 jking197
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What I don't get is why they are spending all of that money to bail out the rich. If anything it is going to make the problem worse. And who knows where it is going to end, they have a cap now, but you can't just bail-out a select group of companies and exclude others. It would be much more fair to give it back to the people to pay off their debts and mortgages who got into the financial situation they are in now due to the greediness of the rich.
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I'm don't think our economy is in as dire peril as Paulson warns. I'm not really qualified to say whether the bailout is a good idea but based on what I've heard from people like Ron Paul, it seems like this deal will only perpetuate the problem.Slaveways

Ron Paul is a massive twit. How would it "perpetuate" the problem? Does he even know what the problem is? Have you not seen what happened to lehman brothers? merrill lynch? Washington mutual? The same that almost happened to AIG, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and is happening to Wachovia. Seriously, has america gotten to the point where we think our holy empire is untouchable? It's either this or depression, your choice.

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Stupid greedy banks, they lend out way more than they should and in a lot of cases to those who can't repay the loans in the first place. Its the banks own stupid fault yet tax payers have to pay for the banks mistakes. If everyone was to withdraw their money at once the banks system would be screwed in an instance, the money you think you have is only figures on a piece of paper.

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It might help however I am sort of against it
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The american government has 1 trillion dollars?
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Stupid greedy banks, they lend out way more than they should and in a lot of cases to those who can't repay the loans in the first place. Its the banks own stupid fault yet tax payers have to pay for the banks mistakes. If everyone was to withdraw their money at once the banks system would be screwed in an instance, the money you think you have is only figures on a piece of paper.

Aft3rsh0ck89

Banks? It was the government who encouraged them to do it. It's also either this or we all lose everything, easy choice. Just move on, it's better than the alternative.

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#17 MoonMarvel
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It might help however I am sort of against ithorgen123

If it will help why be against it?

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[QUOTE="horgen123"]It might help however I am sort of against itMoonMarvel

If it will help why be against it?

He means that he has no choice but to accept it if it benefits the country, but he is against the principle of it as the government is interfering (sosialism?) and taking the working class peoples tax money to pay for the greedy rich mistakes. I thought he was pretty straight forward...

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#19 MoonMarvel
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[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]

[QUOTE="horgen123"]It might help however I am sort of against itjking197

If it will help why be against it?

He means that he has no choice but to accept it if it benefits the country, but he is against the principle of it as the government is interfering (sosialism?) and taking the working class peoples tax money to pay for the greedy rich mistakes. I thought he was pretty straight forward...

Not really. Straight forward is flatout explaining what you mean. And socialism is not a 4 letter word.

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[QUOTE="Aft3rsh0ck89"]

Stupid greedy banks, they lend out way more than they should and in a lot of cases to those who can't repay the loans in the first place. Its the banks own stupid fault yet tax payers have to pay for the banks mistakes. If everyone was to withdraw their money at once the banks system would be screwed in an instance, the money you think you have is only figures on a piece of paper.

MoonMarvel

Banks? It was the government who encouraged them to do it. It's also either this or we all lose everything, easy choice. Just move on, it's better than the alternative.

What i don't get is why they don't give the money back to the people. They have massive mortgages and debts due to the banks greediness. And you can't say the government told them to be greedy, it is the banks and rich that have brought this on everyone.

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[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]

[QUOTE="horgen123"]It might help however I am sort of against itMoonMarvel

If it will help why be against it?

He means that he has no choice but to accept it if it benefits the country, but he is against the principle of it as the government is interfering (sosialism?) and taking the working class peoples tax money to pay for the greedy rich mistakes. I thought he was pretty straight forward...

Not really. Straight forward is flatout explaining what you mean. And socialism is not a 4 letter word.

I think you did understand what he mean't, you were trying to nit-pick. It was straight forward, I understod it, maybe you just read into things too much? And i didn't spell socialism in 4 letters, i only made a typo by spelling it sosialism, that is still the same amount of words as the later...

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[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="Aft3rsh0ck89"]

Stupid greedy banks, they lend out way more than they should and in a lot of cases to those who can't repay the loans in the first place. Its the banks own stupid fault yet tax payers have to pay for the banks mistakes. If everyone was to withdraw their money at once the banks system would be screwed in an instance, the money you think you have is only figures on a piece of paper.

jking197

Banks? It was the government who encouraged them to do it. It's also either this or we all lose everything, easy choice. Just move on, it's better than the alternative.

What i don't get is why they don't give the money back to the people. They have massive mortgages and debts due to the banks greediness. And you can't say the government told them to be greedy, it is the banks and rich that have brought this on everyone.

That doesn't take all the bad paper off the hands of the banks, and don't even try to blame this all on the rich. Will Smith is rich, is this his fault? And yes the government did tell them to do this, people were crying banks weren't loaning money to poor people so the government put pressure on the banks to loan money to the poor. So in a way the government just listened to the people, thats why the people shouldn't get the money.

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#23 MoonMarvel
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[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]

[QUOTE="horgen123"]It might help however I am sort of against itjking197

If it will help why be against it?

He means that he has no choice but to accept it if it benefits the country, but he is against the principle of it as the government is interfering (sosialism?) and taking the working class peoples tax money to pay for the greedy rich mistakes. I thought he was pretty straight forward...

Not really. Straight forward is flatout explaining what you mean. And socialism is not a 4 letter word.

And i didn't spell socialism in 4 letters, i only made a typo by spelling it sosialism, that is still the same amount of words as the later...

It is a saying, Saying it isn't a 4 letter word means it isn't a bad word, as most swear words have 4 letters.

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Imagine each US citizen buying $ 80,000+ worth of lottery tickets.

Now imagine there's no forseeable prize in the near future.

Good thing i'm not from the US :P

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#25 MoonMarvel
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Imagine each US citizen buying $ 80,000+ worth of lottery tickets.

Now imagine there's no forseeable prize in the near future.

Good thing i'm not from the US :P

nitekids2004

Actually we will get the money back over time, the government is going to sell of the debt when the markets rebound. This isn't a perm thing.

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#27 jking197
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[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Imagine each US citizen buying $ 80,000+ worth of lottery tickets.

Now imagine there's no forseeable prize in the near future.

Good thing i'm not from the US :P

MoonMarvel

Actually we will get the money back over time, the government is going to sell of the debt when the markets rebound. This isn't a perm thing.

And what happens if this leads to a depression? You guys are already in a recession even though it's not officially announced. I'm lucky to be in Australia right now, we're in the best position at the moment, bring it on!

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I cannot believe this crap. Anyway, I look at this crooks face and he seems to be saying this,

"I cornholed your mother, did you know?"

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[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="Aft3rsh0ck89"]

Stupid greedy banks, they lend out way more than they should and in a lot of cases to those who can't repay the loans in the first place. Its the banks own stupid fault yet tax payers have to pay for the banks mistakes. If everyone was to withdraw their money at once the banks system would be screwed in an instance, the money you think you have is only figures on a piece of paper.

jking197

Banks? It was the government who encouraged them to do it. It's also either this or we all lose everything, easy choice. Just move on, it's better than the alternative.

What i don't get is why they don't give the money back to the people. They have massive mortgages and debts due to the banks greediness. And you can't say the government told them to be greedy, it is the banks and rich that have brought this on everyone.

That doesn't take all the bad paper off the hands of the banks, and don't even try to blame this all on the rich. Will Smith is rich, is this his fault? And yes the government did tell them to do this, people were crying banks weren't loaning money to poor people so the government put pressure on the banks to loan money to the poor. So in a way the government just listened to the people, thats why the people shouldn't get the money.

Why are you on the government/bank's side on this? We're paying for their f*ck ups. I'm obviously generialising, you're taking minor points like me saying "The Rich" and mentioning one rich person (Will Smith). That is not a good way or arguing at all. You obviously read too far into things and come out with points that mean screw all. So show me a single piece of evidence that shows the government telling the banks to loan more money! I have never heard of that, it's just plain stupid to suggest, the banks did this for profit, they make money out of people being in debt, it's how they thrive, they give people much more credit than they can afford and offer them upgrades on that credit all the time.

I antipate your response...

Because it's the IDIOTS that take on more credit than they can. The government offers a crappy tax break to be in debt, so these low grade financial advisors tell people that their house is an asset, and to buy bigger houses to get a bigger mortgage to get a bigger tax break. IT's not the government, it's the lack of financial intelligence that the general public has today. Most people just don't know how money works or how to control their spending habits. The government is trying to put a bandaid over the mass of morons out there who have taken on much more than they can handle. Not to say the banks aren't responsible for this as well for making horrible lending decisions, however more of the responsibility falls on the people.

People don't have big mortgages because the BANKS are greedy, they have big mortgages because THEY are greedy. The bank doesn't get to live in that flashy new house, the idiots who took out a loan they can't afford live in it...until the bank takes it back because they can't swing the payments. People think they can be rich by taking on more debt and buying more things. When things don't go the way they plan, they would rather blame banks than increase their own financial intelligence because it's the easy thing to do.

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I think reading this will gather most peoples opinions: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26597377&page=0
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I got a few things to say,

1. If someone loses, then someone wins from all this. Take the freakin money back from the people that won all that money off of it.

2. Take the money from all the freakin gold the government took from hitlers time. It would only dent the gold they have...

Why should I have to pay for something I don't use? It's absolute bull, If this government keeps going like this, We are going to find ourselves in a depression. And not like the 1 in the 30s, It's going to be complete anarchy, mark my words.

Im movin to canada forget this country, land of the free? more like land of the government with a pipe in there ass.

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#32 FleshTone
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The bailout is awful...but there's no other choice. Our economy will quickly slip into a depression if we don't do something. Even the bailout is no guarantee of success; we still have a better than 50% chance of entering a major recession or depression within the next 3-4 years. Rough roads ahead folks.
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#33 jking197
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I got a few things to say,

1. If someone loses, then someone wins from all this. Take the freakin money back from the people that won all that money off of it.

2. Take the money from all the freakin gold the government took from hitlers time. It would only deny the gold they have...

Why should I have to pay for something I don't use? It's absolute bull, If this government keeps going like this, We are going to find ourselves in a depression. And not like the 1 in the 30s, It's going to be complete anarchy, mark my words.

Im movin to canada forget this country, land of the free? more like land of the government with a pipe in there ass.

fear2max

Hear Hear! Dude I think you hit the nail on the head right there.

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#34 jking197
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The bailout is awful...but there's no other choice. Our economy will quickly slip into a depression if we don't do something. Even the bailout is no guarantee of success; we still have a better than 50% chance of entering a major recession or depression within the next 3-4 years. Rough roads ahead folks.FleshTone

I think you guys are already in a recession and believe me, it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

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#35 fear2max
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[QUOTE="fear2max"]

I got a few things to say,

1. If someone loses, then someone wins from all this. Take the freakin money back from the people that won all that money off of it.

2. Take the money from all the freakin gold the government took from hitlers time. It would only deny the gold they have...

Why should I have to pay for something I don't use? It's absolute bull, If this government keeps going like this, We are going to find ourselves in a depression. And not like the 1 in the 30s, It's going to be complete anarchy, mark my words.

Im movin to canada forget this country, land of the free? more like land of the government with a pipe in there ass.

jking197

Hear Hear! Dude I think you hit the nail on the head right there.

thanks man.

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#36 Vandalvideo
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I support the....bailout is such a harshword. I support the reinstitution of checks on the industry. A completely free economy is a pipe dream, ultimately dettered by the natural greed of people. I support economics from the barrel of a gun. Go Ayn Rand!