17 year old sentenced to attend church for 10 years

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#101 Posted by WhiteKnight77 (12018 posts) -

[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

Only in the US.

tenaka2

This only shows that you do not know US laws. See above for what the defendent could and couldn't get due to his plea bargain.

#102 Posted by l4dak47 (6838 posts) -

Whats wrong with going to church in place of Jail? Going to Jail means career over, getting raped by convicts, blacklisted by society. For going to church you become a much better man than you are at present, get respect from society and above all you can lead a religious life.

indzman
Separation of church and state. Don't get me wrong, the way our prison system is set up right now is only making our convicts worse off in the long run and rehabilitation should be the main goal, but this is a pretty clear violation of church and state.
#103 Posted by WhiteKnight77 (12018 posts) -

[QUOTE="indzman"]

Whats wrong with going to church in place of Jail? Going to Jail means career over, getting raped by convicts, blacklisted by society. For going to church you become a much better man than you are at present, get respect from society and above all you can lead a religious life.

l4dak47

Separation of church and state. Don't get me wrong, the way our prison system is set up right now is only making our convicts worse off in the long run and rehabilitation should be the main goal, but this is a pretty clear violation of church and state.

This doesn't fall within that really. The seperation of church and state is defined as the distance between the state and orginized religion as in the state cannot make someone attend a specific church. What church did the kid get sentenced to and what religion? The plea bargain (in which there is appeal for) does not specify either of those anywhere.

Also, it wasn't a legislature enacting a law (which is where it was decried that it should not happen), but a court serving sentence on a defendent who plead guilty to the offenses unto which he was charged.

#104 Posted by gamerguru100 (10457 posts) -

'Murrica

What r u doin?

'Murrica!

Stahp!

#105 Posted by ShadowsDemon (10124 posts) -

[QUOTE="indzman"]

Whats wrong with going to church in place of Jail? Going to Jail means career over, getting raped by convicts, blacklisted by society. For going to church you become a much better man than you are at present, get respect from society and above all you can lead a religious life.

wis3boi

No.

He's right in a way...
#106 Posted by worlock77 (22547 posts) -

Whats wrong with going to church in place of Jail? Going to Jail means career over, getting raped by convicts, blacklisted by society. For going to church you become a much better man than you are at present, get respect from society and above all you can lead a religious life.

indzman

No, not really.

#107 Posted by Liam00148 (543 posts) -

An Oklahoma teen convicted of manslaughter has sentenced to 10 years of probation, with requirements that include regularly attending church.

Tyler Alred, now 17, had been drinking when he crashed a pickup truckat around 4 a.m. on Dec. 3, 2011, Tulsa World reports. The accident killed Alred's friend, 16-year-old John Luke Dum, who was a passenger in the vehicle.

Alred was not legally drunk, but because he was below the legal drinking age, he was still considered to be driving under the influence of alcohol. The high school student pleaded guilty in August to a charge of manslaughter as a youthful offender.

"I did not want to do what I did," Alred told the court prior to his sentencing. "I want to change my life."

Members ofDum's family did not want to see Alred behind bars, the Muskogee Phoenix reported. "We don't need to see two lives wasted for a mistake," Dum's sister, Caitlin, wrote in a statement.

Instead of sentencing the teen to prison time, Judge Mike Norman gave him a 10-year deferred sentence. In order to stay out of prison, Alred must graduate from high school; graduate from welding school; take drug, alcohol and nicotine tests for a year; wear a drug and alcohol bracelet, take part in victim's impact panels, and attend church for the next 10 years.

This last requirement "raises legal issues because of (the separation of) church and state," University of Oklahoma law professor Randall Coyne told the Tulsa World.

University of Tulsa law professor Gary Allison told KTULthat the church requirement "speaks to maybe forcing people to do religious activities that they would otherwise not do on their own free will I don't know why a church would want to have someone come to it under the force of government,"

This apparently isn't the case for Alred, though. "My client goes to church every Sunday," defense attorney Donn Baker told the court. "That isn't going to be a problem for him."Laihendi

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These judges are getting ridiculous.

DEDUCTION


Church = Jail

#108 Posted by GrindingAxe (1641 posts) -
If this is what he agreed with..no problem. I'm sure the judge didn't just demand this, but this was an agreement between the two parties.
#109 Posted by cain006 (8625 posts) -

Other than the church thing, that seems like a really good sentence. If he does all those things, his life will be on track for success.

#111 Posted by OB-47 (10908 posts) -

lol America

#113 Posted by BPoole96 (22784 posts) -

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

So no jail time, just church? What?

theone86

In fairness, they're pretty similar. The really big difference is that in jail the sodomy doesn't stop at puberty.

Get 'em

#114 Posted by muller39 (14944 posts) -

So no jail time, just church? What?

Pirate700
Doesn't make sense.
#115 Posted by hippiesanta (9767 posts) -
so most of you rather go to jail than sentence to church