WiiU Not Getting Saint's Row IV *linked

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#1 Posted by sonic_spark (4870 posts) -

http://www.screwattack.com/news/wii-u-will-not-be-getting-saint%E2%80%99s-row-iv

I'm not the biggest Saint's Row fan, but I hate to see studios just avoid the WiiU.  

#2 Posted by Bubble_Man (3100 posts) -

Meh, it's not like anyone buys a wii u to play that anyway.

#3 Posted by spike6958 (5140 posts) -
Meh, I bought my Wii U for Nintendo and exclusives. I don't care about 3rd parties multiplats, I have two other consoles and a PC I can play them on. Nintendo will come through for us soon enough, with a bunch of great games, let's just give them time.
#4 Posted by starwarsjunky (24760 posts) -
what a surprise :roll:
#5 Posted by Madmangamer364 (3691 posts) -

Meh, I bought my Wii U for Nintendo and exclusives. I don't care about 3rd parties multiplats, I have two other consoles and a PC I can play them on. Nintendo will come through for us soon enough, with a bunch of great games, let's just give them time.spike6958

I don't want to say too much, but this certainly isn't the attitude a lot of people had about the Wii U and multiplats just a few months ago... What the heck has happened? :?

So much for "dat hardware argument..." Third parties are going to continue to come up with any reason to not support the Wii U and stand by it, so as long as they continue to gain nothing for actually supporting it. The ironic thing about this story is the fact that it centers around Saint's Row, a franchise that Nintendo once used as an example for its strong third party support for the 3DS. My, how quickly things can change.

#6 Posted by Heil68 (48766 posts) -
Guess it wasn't worth it to them.
#7 Posted by KBFloYd (15115 posts) -

i probably would have bought it...oh well guess we both lose.

#8 Posted by Legolas_Katarn (15555 posts) -

[QUOTE="spike6958"]Meh, I bought my Wii U for Nintendo and exclusives. I don't care about 3rd parties multiplats, I have two other consoles and a PC I can play them on. Nintendo will come through for us soon enough, with a bunch of great games, let's just give them time.Madmangamer364

I don't want to say too much, but this certainly isn't the attitude a lot of people had about the Wii U and multiplats just a few months ago... What the heck has happened? :?

So much for "dat hardware argument..." Third parties are going to continue to come up with any reason to not support the Wii U and stand by it, so as long as they continue to gain nothing for actually supporting it. The ironic thing about this story is the fact that it centers around Saint's Row, a franchise that Nintendo once used as an example for its strong third party support for the 3DS. My, how quickly things can change.

Yeah, that is a terrible position to take. If the Nintendo hardware serves no purpose but to play Nintendo games it just makes it a massive waste of money and no one should want Nintendo to make systems when the few Nintendo developed games could just be put on another system and would save us $100s of dollars every system generation.

#9 Posted by Madmangamer364 (3691 posts) -

Yeah, that is a terrible position to take. If the Nintendo hardware serves no purpose but to play Nintendo games it just makes it a massive waste of money and no one should want Nintendo to make systems when the few Nintendo developed games could just be put on another system and would save us $100s of dollars every system generation.

Legolas_Katarn

Honestly, I'm not really saying how people SHOULD feel about this situation. In fact, I was in a very small boat of people that actually predicted this would happen, so I can't say much more than that, frankly. I'm just shocked to see such disinterest in Wii U multiplats after months of many of this board's followers supporting the notion of the Wii U getting multiplats to seemingly no end. I'm not even sure if spike6958 directly falls into that group, but if so, than what is being said now is a MAJOR difference from what was said about the Wii U in the not-so-distant past.

That was really the reason behind my reaction. For whatever reason people want to buy a Nintendo console is totally up to them, though. I just didn't expect the change of heart so suddenly, if that's really the case.

#10 Posted by Sepewrath (28876 posts) -
My stance remains the same, I believe 3rd party support is very important and I believe the Wii U will see 3rd party support. The 3rd party loves to talk about how they needed next gen consoles so they could "innovate", the only next gen consoles the 3rd party is interested in is ones that come out of the gate on fire. That article talks about gamepad implementation and I doubt that has anything to do with it, its is strictly sales data. This is no different than when the PS3 struggled out the gate and things like Bioshock, Dead Rising and so on were on the 360. Publishers don't want to let go of the current gen until they are assured big sales and I expect this to continue well into next year, because I don't see the PS4 or XBOX 3 being instant successes either. That's just the current hardware landscape. When the Wii U picks up steam and when publishers are forced to abandon the current gen, I expect they wont be able to avoid the Wii U, as I don't see a Wii or PS2 like contender coming out of this time. I think they will have to use all three systems as well as PC and digital means to makes workable sales.
#11 Posted by nintendoboy16 (28526 posts) -
Considering the 3DS Saints Row was cancelled, why am I not surprised?
#12 Posted by Haziqonfire (36344 posts) -

My stance remains the same, I believe 3rd party support is very important and I believe the Wii U will see 3rd party support. The 3rd party loves to talk about how they needed next gen consoles so they could "innovate", the only next gen consoles the 3rd party is interested in is ones that come out of the gate on fire. That article talks about gamepad implementation and I doubt that has anything to do with it, its is strictly sales data. This is no different than when the PS3 struggled out the gate and things like Bioshock, Dead Rising and so on were on the 360. Publishers don't want to let go of the current gen until they are assured big sales and I expect this to continue well into next year, because I don't see the PS4 or XBOX 3 being instant successes either. That's just the current hardware landscape. When the Wii U picks up steam and when publishers are forced to abandon the current gen, I expect they wont be able to avoid the Wii U, as I don't see a Wii or PS2 like contender coming out of this time. I think they will have to use all three systems as well as PC and digital means to makes workable sales. Sepewrath

I'm not as optimistic as you are, but I think we'll see some support once sales pick up. I'm also not confident in the other platforms being successful and falling much like the Wii U has; so if Nintendo manages to turn things around this time next year it might benefit them.

At the very least I can say we'll see some solid support from Ubisoft and Activision out of the three big publishers, with EA doing whatever they want. I don't really care about EA at this point, especially after the SimCity controversy. $!@# that company.

I think Nintendo really needs to push the Wii U as also being that mid-tier console that can be used to make solid games that devs can't afford to make on PS4/Xbox3 but will have a shot of realizing their goals on the Wii U still.

#13 Posted by gamenerd15 (4478 posts) -

I honestly do not care about third party games on any platform.  I buy Nintendo to play Nintendo games like Mario, Zelda, F-Zero, Wave Race, and Donkey Kong.  I buy Sony consoles to play games made by Sucker Punch, Naughty Dog, Guerilla Games, and Media Molecule.  I will eventually buy a Wii U to Play Yoshi Land, Mario Bros U, Retro Studios next generation titles, Monolith's next game, and whatever else Nintendo comes out with.  I will buy a PS4 to play Infamous Second Son, Killzone: Shadow Fall, Knack, Naughty Dog's next PS4 game, and Media Molecules next PS4 game.  The only third party company that I tend to like a lot is Namco.  I like Tekken, Soul Calibur, and the Tales franchise.  Those games will no doubt hit Wii U and PS4 at some point. 

#14 Posted by Zassimick (7527 posts) -

Whether or not you'd play this game this is a bummer for Wii U-owners. Third-party support helps bring in buyers and more owners brings in more third-party support; the two go hand-in-hand. Sadly, develoepers who say that their audience isn't on a console, which is why they won't put their games on it, end up enacting a self-fulfilling prophecy. 

i don't know if I would have checked out Saints Row IV on the Wii U as I haven't played any of the previous iterations, but I can say that's a little disappointing to hear they aren't bringing it over. 

#15 Posted by Sepewrath (28876 posts) -

I'm not as optimistic as you are, but I think we'll see some support once sales pick up. I'm also not confident in the other platforms being successful and falling much like the Wii U has; so if Nintendo manages to turn things around this time next year it might benefit them.

At the very least I can say we'll see some solid support from Ubisoft and Activision out of the three big publishers, with EA doing whatever they want. I don't really care about EA at this point, especially after the SimCity controversy. $!@# that company.

I think Nintendo really needs to push the Wii U as also being that mid-tier console that can be used to make solid games that devs can't afford to make on PS4/Xbox3 but will have a shot of realizing their goals on the Wii U still.

Haziqonfire

It has nothing to do with optimism, traditional console development has never had so much competition on the entertainment front. With people playing games, watching moves and such on phones and tablets. You have things like Steam even OnLive getting the attention of would be console customers. I don't think the pie will be as big this time, so in order for companies to exist in the AAA space, they have to spread the wealth as much as possible.

 

Their not going to be able to make games that need to sell 5 million copies to break even and then ignore one platform. If the gap between the Wii U and PS4 was a repeat of the Wii and PS3, fine, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Even mid tier, unless published by the console maker, probably has to be multiplat. I don't think the Wii U dev cost will be that much less than its counterparts like the Wii was. The days of the exclusive are dead, for publishers to maximize profit, they cant ignore the Wii, especially once they go completely next gen. The only way that can happen is if the PS4 or XBOX3 comes out and people mistake it for an iphone.

#16 Posted by etmaul (745 posts) -
This seems to be a trend with a lot of developers. It seems like every week there is a topic on "XYZ developer explains why there will not be a Wii U edition of XYZ game." I hate to say it but I had a feeling a lot of developers weren't going to buy into the Wii U technology, especially considering the upcoming release of the PS4 and xBox 720. Thus, it seems like this will be like every other Nintendo console, the Nintendo franchises will reign while only some developers will support this console. Is it possible Nintendo will ever go a different direction that developers will support?
#17 Posted by murat8 (10361 posts) -
That sux, doesn't really affect me, I'm already getting ready to get it on PC. But it sux if you dont have another option, its a fun game series.
#18 Posted by mariokart64fan (19805 posts) -

saints row 4 wont be missed - im sure alot of us own ps3 360 for it anyway ,    i want new games not ports,   nothing on older consoles , and nothing available on next gen either , i want my own set of games for all 3 platforms thats how it should be ,

 

im sure we will get s omething better in the form of driver 6 ,

#19 Posted by JustPlainLucas (75266 posts) -
Nintendo really needs third-party exclusives, not multiplats, as they never seem to do well on Nintendo consoles.
#20 Posted by superbuuman (3464 posts) -

Just looks more & more like I will have to buy a PS4 later. :(

#21 Posted by nintendoboy16 (28526 posts) -
Nintendo really needs third-party exclusives, not multiplats, as they never seem to do well on Nintendo consoles.JustPlainLucas
Even though lack of multiplats have also been a complaint as well.
#22 Posted by Grieverr (2771 posts) -

I'm sure there's some math that shows "x" % of a console's installed base reflects the number of potential sales a game of certain calibers can get. And I'm sure those numbers looked really low for Saint's Row.

I hope the current multi-plats (like Need For Speed) do well, though. And I hope the Wiiu becomes more desirable to 3rd parties as time goes on. As much as I love Nintendo, I wouldn't buy a console just to play their games.

#23 Posted by FPS1337 (2517 posts) -
Not a huge issues. Its also not hitting the Xbox 720 and PS4. Its focused on the current generation.
#24 Posted by bonesawisready5 (4962 posts) -

Its odd to see Ubisoft stepping up with Zombi U, Rayman, AC3, AC:BF and so much more yet EA, Take Two, and others have no interest in Wii U.

Saints Row IV, Dead Island Riptide, GTA V all make sense on Wii U. Dead Island has the Zombi U market to sell to (330k+), Saints Row and GTA V could easily shift at least 1 million units lifetime recooping all porting costs and then some.

It is disappointing but I didn't buy my Wii U for these games. Then again, if all of us keep being okay with "I buy my Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games" will that ever change? Seems like Nintendo can't catch a break with third parties.

I wonder if releasing the N64 in fall 1995 with a CD drive would've changed everything,....

#25 Posted by tocool340 (20682 posts) -

I don't want to say too much, but this certainly isn't the attitude a lot of people had about the Wii U and multiplats just a few months ago... What the heck has happened? :?Madmangamer364
I don't know, but its starting to piss me off. And you wonder why many high acclaimed third party devs prefer to avoid Nintendo products and why their systems end up going through long game droughts...

#26 Posted by gamenerd15 (4478 posts) -

[QUOTE="Madmangamer364"] I don't want to say too much, but this certainly isn't the attitude a lot of people had about the Wii U and multiplats just a few months ago... What the heck has happened? :?tocool340

I don't know, but its starting to piss me off. And you wonder why many high acclaimed third party devs prefer to avoid Nintendo products and why their systems end up going through long game droughts...

It is just what people are used to.  Cartoon platformers do not sell that well on the other consoles.  Nintendo actually knows how to use its own hardware.  Third parties do not use the unique advantages to any specific platform really.  The reason the Wii missed out on games was because the hardware could not run a lot of the titles out on the market.  The Gamecube had good support for the first two years, but it dried up because the system did not sell.  The N64 got the shaft because Nintendo decided to go with a cartridge based format for games instead of a disc based format.  We also need to remember that not all of the next generation consoles are out yet.  The first system out of the gate always gets current gen port.  The first year got a lot of games that were primarily built for the last generation.  I would advise giving the Wii U at least a year to get off the ground.  I would say that if the Wii U versions of games like Destiny, Assassins Creed 4, and Watch Dogs are more in line with the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions, then it is time to worry.  Every system takes at least a year to get off the ground.  The PS3 got off to a worse start than the Wii U, and look at the system now.  The games the Wii U has may be old, but at least they run almost on par with other consoles, and most of the titles are good.