Why does SSBB get 9.5 if the online doesnt work?

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#1 RE4WiiGirl
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I heard people were raving about how the online doesnt work and the game is crap because of it ra ra ra...
Why doesnt the online work or whats wrong with it? I have no idea because I dont have it but just wondering why its 9.5 if the online doesnt work at all...?
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#2 -Sigil-
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Because its always put on a pedastal. Dont get me wrong, the game is good, but it doesnt deserve a 9.5... at all.
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#3 ZumaJones07
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Not too sure about this, but didn't they review it before it was released? The reviewer may have had a good experience online? Or the reviewer was scared for his life and gave it a 9.5 regardless. :P
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#4 GCwasthebestsys
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video game rankings are all about fads and corporate lobbyist $$ (just check out how well every single EA game seems to do here and elsewhere)

mario kart is 10x better than SSBB mainly for the online issue (my opinion of course)

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#5 Jaysonguy
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The online works, just not well with random people

If you have friends it's fine

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#6 air_wolf_cubed
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games arent judged by their online. if this was true, Melee would be 0.0 cause it didnt have any online
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#7 GCwasthebestsys
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btw, people still play this game?????

karting is where it's at

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#8 TacoJelly
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They judged it based on Friends matches that still work well after the first match.

And random matches still work, the problem is you can't see anyones connection rate and you'll have to suffer through one fight with slowdown before you get the good fights in. Problem is, everybody drops after one fight.

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#9 Picklechugger
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games arent judged by their online. if this was true, Melee would be 0.0 cause it didnt have any onlineair_wolf_cubed

that was stupid... a game can definitely be rated on it's online. If a game has online and it is terrible it can be docked. If a game could have used online, realistically, than it could be docked too. GC had terrible online, so it wouldn't make sense to dock Melee for online... atleast pick a better example...

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#10 nintendoman562
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Online worked when they were reviewing it because nobody was on. since nobody was on, they found their matches quickly and laglessly.

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#11 Link9n17
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If the people have bad connections than you don't like playing with them, it isn't the games fault if it doesn't say "You have a bad connection you are going to have LAG so don't play"

Also they don't review games by there online play, if you don't want online play than don't do it, THATS THE BEAUTY OF GAMES GENIUSES!:x

Also name me one game that was porly reviewed because one of its features isn't as good as everyone expected? NONE I THOUGHT SO!!!

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#12 linkyshinks
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It's a great game and well worthy of it's 9.5, however for some reason US gamers have a nightmare connecting. I have a US import copy and a great Wi Fi connection and I rarely have any problems, in fact strangely my games with US players are better than those with fellow Euro players with a import copy like myself. Once the Euro connection is up I imagine it will be far better than the US one as they will have improved the network code. If that happens I am selling my US copy because playing with Euro players is more of a priority for me..
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#13 metroidfood
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Online worked when they were reviewing it because nobody was on. since nobody was on, they found their matches quickly and laglessly.

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#14 air_wolf_cubed
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]games arent judged by their online. if this was true, Melee would be 0.0 cause it didnt have any onlinePicklechugger

that was stupid... a game can definitely be rated on it's online. If a game has online and it is terrible it can be docked. If a game could have used online, realistically, than it could be docked too. GC had terrible online, so it wouldn't make sense to dock Melee for online... atleast pick a better example...

ok then how bout....mario party ds
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#15 lancea34
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Maybe at the time he reviewed the game, the on-line was better, since it wasn't overflown with people tryig to go on-line.
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#16 Picklechugger
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[QUOTE="Picklechugger"]

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]games arent judged by their online. if this was true, Melee would be 0.0 cause it didnt have any onlineair_wolf_cubed

that was stupid... a game can definitely be rated on it's online. If a game has online and it is terrible it can be docked. If a game could have used online, realistically, than it could be docked too. GC had terrible online, so it wouldn't make sense to dock Melee for online... atleast pick a better example...

ok then how bout....mario party ds

Umm..you just proved yourself wrong, in "the bad" section of the review they say it was disappointing to have no online. This definitely affected the final review score. We'll never no how much, but to say that online was not considered in the review just isn't true.

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#17 air_wolf_cubed
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="Picklechugger"]

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]games arent judged by their online. if this was true, Melee would be 0.0 cause it didnt have any onlinePicklechugger

that was stupid... a game can definitely be rated on it's online. If a game has online and it is terrible it can be docked. If a game could have used online, realistically, than it could be docked too. GC had terrible online, so it wouldn't make sense to dock Melee for online... atleast pick a better example...

ok then how bout....mario party ds

Umm..you just proved yourself wrong, in "the bad" section of the review they say it was disappointing to have no online. This definitely affected the final review score. We'll never no how much, but to say that online was not considered in the review just isn't true.

i rpvoed myself wrong? i used 0.0 as an example and the game got an 8.0
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#18 HyruleanLink
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I don't think a game is entirely based on its online function. This also provides lots of other modes that are playable. Yes, the random play mode is not great, but I have no problems while playing with friends.
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#19 Picklechugger
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[QUOTE="Picklechugger"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="Picklechugger"]

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]games arent judged by their online. if this was true, Melee would be 0.0 cause it didnt have any onlineair_wolf_cubed

that was stupid... a game can definitely be rated on it's online. If a game has online and it is terrible it can be docked. If a game could have used online, realistically, than it could be docked too. GC had terrible online, so it wouldn't make sense to dock Melee for online... atleast pick a better example...

ok then how bout....mario party ds

Umm..you just proved yourself wrong, in "the bad" section of the review they say it was disappointing to have no online. This definitely affected the final review score. We'll never no how much, but to say that online was not considered in the review just isn't true.

i rpvoed myself wrong? i used 0.0 as an example and the game got an 8.0

You were trying to say that if they reviewed games and include online in the score, if a game didn't have online, it would get a 0? What kind of logic is that? If the SSBB online was bad at the time of the review it certainly could have gotten a score drop... to a 9.0 or maybe an 8.5... but to say that they would give a game a zero (an impossible score on gamespot) makes even less sense.

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#20 air_wolf_cubed
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You were trying to say that if they reviewed games and include online in the score, if a game didn't have online, it would get a 0? What kind of logic is that? If the SSBB online was bad at the time of the review it certainly could have gotten a score drop... to a 9.0 or maybe an 8.5... but to say that they would give a game a zero (an impossible score on gamespot) makes even less sense.

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#21 Picklechugger
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[QUOTE="Picklechugger"]

You were trying to say that if they reviewed games and include online in the score, if a game didn't have online, it would get a 0? What kind of logic is that? If the SSBB online was bad at the time of the review it certainly could have gotten a score drop... to a 9.0 or maybe an 8.5... but to say that they would give a game a zero (an impossible score on gamespot) makes even less sense.

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i was joking around

Right...:roll: well bottom line, online play does come into consideration during a gamespot review

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#22 umcommon
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The game is incredible in every other aspect and has nearly unlimited replay value.
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#23 w4rgasm
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Ocarina of Time got a 10 without any multiplayer at all.
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#24 BrooklynHotBoy
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brawl should've gotten between an 8.0-8.5

it was rehashed with minor upgrades and online play is terrible.

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#25 Englando_IV
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Because it's a superb game...

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#26 GoDsSoN770
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If online doesn't work, whos problem is that? I haven't had nearly as bad as an experience online as people are claiming to have had. The game requires everyone playing to be on the same page so that everything can run smooth and everything is fair. If one persons connection isn't on the same page, then everyone else suffers. This is the result you get when playing random, you don't know anything about who your playing against, so it can be hit or miss. Most of my random games have ran fine since I got the game (days after release). So to suggest this game's online doesn't work is just being ignorant. It works fine for me and many others.
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#27 air_wolf_cubed
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="Picklechugger"]

You were trying to say that if they reviewed games and include online in the score, if a game didn't have online, it would get a 0? What kind of logic is that? If the SSBB online was bad at the time of the review it certainly could have gotten a score drop... to a 9.0 or maybe an 8.5... but to say that they would give a game a zero (an impossible score on gamespot) makes even less sense.

Picklechugger

i was joking around

Right...:roll: well bottom line, online play does come into consideration during a gamespot review

so you think i wanted melee to get 0.0?
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#28 Tvac897
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The online is a work in progress give it time and the wii will be a GREAT platform for the online community.
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#29 PlasmaBeam44
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Because they played it before it was released and before we broke it.
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#30 swampton
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The game gets a 10 to me, and I don't even care if it were online or not. It is great for beginners like my wife who does not play these type of games, but she will play SSBB. It is great for the advanced players like me and my son who battle at-least an hour or two a day.
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#31 Link9n17
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Amen brother!
If online doesn't work, whos problem is that? I haven't had nearly as bad as an experience online as people are claiming to have had. The game requires everyone playing to be on the same page so that everything can run smooth and everything is fair. If one persons connection isn't on the same page, then everyone else suffers. This is the result you get when playing random, you don't know anything about who your playing against, so it can be hit or miss. Most of my random games have ran fine since I got the game (days after release). So to suggest this game's online doesn't work is just being ignorant. It works fine for me and many others. GoDsSoN770
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#32 king23_
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They liked the single player?

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#33 Cow13_02_basic
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For me at least, Super Smash Bros. has always been about getting a few friends together and having a great time. As a non-splitscreen four-player game, you can get the full multiplayer experience on one console. I'd be fine if it didn't have any online mode, so I wouldn't take any points off for less-than-optimal online play.
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#34 UltimateXShadow
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The "random online match" feature always worked for me. I don't know why it doesn't work for other people.
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#35 Jazunn
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brawl should've gotten between an 8.0-8.5

it was rehashed with minor upgrades and online play is terrible.

BrooklynHotBoy

I would say more 7.0 - 7.5 actually.

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#36 Englando_IV
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I have a hypothesis:

The majority of people who think the score should be lower don't have friends who play Brawl.

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#37 GamerJM
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Because not everyone cares about online ;).
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#38 Jazunn
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I have a hypothesis:

The majority of people who think the score should be lower don't have friends who play Brawl.

Englando_IV

Correct in my case... The game fails to hold my attention on single player and my friends don't enjoy Brawl at all.

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#39 TheLordMagnus
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Online works for me. Its not flawless by any means, as there are disconnects, but the lag has really decreased for me. Once I am in a match I don't notice much lag. I think part of the problem is that the Wii is wireless, which is unreliable and most people don't know how to set it up properly to begin with.
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#40 X-Remnant
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I think that would be a fine score even with no wifi, I mean, look at melee... It was still awesome.
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#41 prozack28
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here's the math. game get a 10. -.5 for crappy online. that equals 9.5. everyone good?
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WHY DO PEOPLE THINK THE ONLINE IS HORRIBLE? During the first month Brawl came out, the online was atrocious I'll admit, but that was just because of massive online traffic. The online is perfectly fine right now! I don't remember a time I have had a basic brawl with lag at all! If you don't mind waiting about 3-8 min's for a match, you'll be hooked for about 15 minutes worth of matches. Another thing is that when you find an online match, the Wii makes a clunky noise. Now usually i would find this extremely annoyinng, but you can also watch a bit of TV until you find a match. The online is perfectly fine guys, so stop whining, and if you haven't played online in the past 2 months, then please don't complain about it.

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#43 Link9n17
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Thank you, EXACTLY!

WHY DO PEOPLE THINK THE ONLINE IS HORRIBLE? During the first month Brawl came out, the online was atrocious I'll admit, but that was just because of massive online traffic. The online is perfectly fine right now! I don't remember a time I have had a basic brawl with lag at all! If you don't mind waiting about 3-8 min's for a match, you'll be hooked for about 15 minutes worth of matches. Another thing is that when you find an online match, the Wii makes a clunky noise. Now usually i would find this extremely annoyinng, but you can also watch a bit of TV until you find a match. The online is perfectly fine guys, so stop whining, and if you haven't played online in the past 2 months, then please don't complain about it.

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#44 thegreatest641
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y do people worry bout wat score a game get.. the only wat ur kno is if u play it ur self, but i think it deserve a 9.5 cuz it a good game, it 1 of nintendo biggest games.. people play ssbb more then mk wii that supise me
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]games arent judged by their online. if this was true, Melee would be 0.0 cause it didnt have any onlinePicklechugger

that was stupid... a game can definitely be rated on it's online. If a game has online and it is terrible it can be docked. If a game could have used online, realistically, than it could be docked too. GC had terrible online, so it wouldn't make sense to dock Melee for online... atleast pick a better example...

The Nintendo Gamecube had online!? NO WAI!!

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#46 Mr_Apple_Soup
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[QUOTE="BrooklynHotBoy"]

brawl should've gotten between an 8.0-8.5

it was rehashed with minor upgrades and online play is terrible.

Jazunn

I would say more 7.0 - 7.5 actually.

no idea where either of you guys are coming from with those statements....

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#47 argotto
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It is a sad thing to see how so many people in the world now literally NEED online play to enjoy a game. I realize many of you may be kids, and some of you are not, but if you are a veteran gamer of any kind, you know what I am talking about.

Games use to be played for fun, to pass the time in an enjoyable way. They were exciting. But over the past few years, competition has been the #1 priority for many gamers.. I love pitting myself against others in any game I can, its fun, dont get me wrong, but when it starts becoming a needed feature in every game coming out now, it takes away from everything else.

No one here can sit there and tell me gaming hasn't been getting worse and worse over there past 4 years; the only thing that has improved is graphics, and personally I'm sick of it. Rating a game by its online? This game has been great for many things other than that. Can you honestly tell me that unless you can prove yourself to be a better gamer then the game is not worth playing? Well if that is the case, then "get a life" seems like the right thing to say now.

This game did leave out a few things I would have liked to see, but they added far more than most games have to offer, and imo that should have gotten it a higher score. Thats not to say it doesn't have its flaws, but I think you get what I mean.

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#48 CHAtotheRLES
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online works well with friends
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#49 cafccc
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Ok, im so tired of people comnplaining about online play, i dont have wi-fi right but i love SSBB and it deserved the 9.5 with its non online features, why would you wanna ahve online Brawl anyways, you cant even taunt your friends in real live without a phone and you cant realy make any rules. Brawl is a multiplayer game in the formost, it was not created to be simply online multiplayer, thats why non online people have special brawl and co-op in almost every single mode.
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#50 J-man45
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Online isn't the only thing about a game that can make it good. And once I get a match (sometimes after long waiting I'll admit) The people in the match will keep playing forever. Once I went for at least an hour on one set of players before I finally rotted from too much playing. (lol)

If all you people buy games for is online nowadays, I'm agreeing with the guy with the long post a few above me that mentions the statement GET A LIFE! Tour the country, learn things, read! Don't waste your life playing nothing but videogames! If I get flamed at I don't care!