M-Rated Games on DS is a bad idea

It's horrible to see a M-Rated game on DS, like GTA Chinatown wars. The DS has a reputation as a kid console, which is why these games shouldn't be on DS.

Discuss.

[UPDATE] I am not an adult cause I'm only 15 and I think it's for children because there are so many games for kids

[YET ANOTHER UPDATE,GREAT] Do you think Pokemon, and any other casual games are for adults?Is GTA, Fallout, Resident Evil and other M-rated games are for kids? 95% of all DS games are for kids, which is why it got a reputation as a kid console. Go get a PSP if you agree.( GTA on PSP doesn't look like the first GTA, unlike the DS version.)

[MORE UPDATES, WTF ] OK, fine. I'll sell my PSP and my PS3. I'll buy a DS and get all those boring kid games. I'll stop playing Tekken, COD, NFS, GTA, Fallout 3 and start playing Pokemon,cartoon games and give them 10/10 I'll even change my name from tekken220 to pikachu220! (sarcasm ends.)

[FINAL UPDATE-SY] I think Wii is for everyone DS isn't

[FINAL UPDATE-SY II] Forget I wrote Super Mario that game is great

there are many games for kids. imagine someone in their 30's playing kid games on the DStekken220

I'll sell my PSP and my PS3. I'll buy a DS and get all those boring kid games

not another one ...

let me get this straight ... you do not own a DS because you think the unit is meant for kids ... like you (since you're 15). ok ok so maybe you're already a teen and feel macho for playing "video games" on a Sony branded console.

here are some facts ...

there is a total of 476 Early Childhood all the way up to Teen 13+ and only 39 Mature rated games in ESRB's website on their PSP games list. that makes the PSP approximately 92% kid friendly ... right? but do you see 90+ million DS users spam the boards with stuff like what I just mentioned? no ... you wanna know why? because the DS have too many games on offer, we do not have the time.

... end facts

Happy New Year everyone!

It's annoying when people confused "DS games for kids" with "DS games suitable for kids". It happens so often and you can tell from such things whether or not you're even talking to some one who is old enough to play mature titles. Not that i'm having a go at you tekken220 or anything. You've already given us your age. It's just there's an typical teenage perception that anything without gory violence is a kiddy game.Raiko101

And why the **** did you buy a ds? if you think this a handheld just for children why did you even buy it? So bad ....

It's horrible to see a M-Rated game on DS, like GTA Chinatown wars. The DS has a reputation as a kid console, which is why these games shouldn't be on DS.

Discuss.

tekken220

tekken220, the Nintendo DS is not a kids console and never will be. I don't know where you got that idea but it wasn't advertised as a kid console. It's true that it has kid friendly games but what console doesn't? If the idea of a M-rated game bothers you, just ignore the the ESRB. But if you are accusing the Nintendo DS of not having any hardcore games, you haven't been looking very hard at all.

[QUOTE="Raiko101"]It's annoying when people confused "DS games for kids" with "DS games suitable for kids". It happens so often and you can tell from such things whether or not you're even talking to some one who is old enough to play mature titles. Not that i'm having a go at you tekken220 or anything. You've already given us your age. It's just there's an typical teenage perception that anything without gory violence is a kiddy game.johnmatthais

I'm pretty sure you've miss read my post if that whole post of yours was directed at me. I'm not calling any game or console "kiddie", but i'm saying most gamers do. Especially the younger generation of gamer who missed growing up in the 8/16-bit eras, which although had their fair share of violence and gore, would have learnt that such things never meant a game was any good. Personally I couldn't care if the games I played were brightly coloured and involved picking flowers, as long as they were fun. Animal Crossing, for example, is one of my favourite DS games.

Anyways, the lack of possible gore is not the reason behind a lack of M rated titles on the DS. If the Playstation could handle gore, and it hosted the gory Resident Evil series, then the DS can too. I don't know why Dementium would lack gore, but it wouldn't be anything to do with how unreleastic or stupid it looks. The gore in Deadly Silence is blocky sure, but it gets the job done. Again, an older gamer wouldn't be fussed with such things as they've seen far worse. Which again leads me to believe that its the younger gamers with the problem, again buying these games because the other games are to 'kiddie'.

Just to reiterate, i'm not saying this is typical of all young gamers, but a damn lot of them...

Your "logic" is based on stereotypes and mass generalizations.

Don't get me wrong, I love M games like God of War, Metal Gear Solid, etc... ButI'm not going to refuse a quality game like Professor Layton or Advance Wars because it's "teh kiddy!!/1!" The fact is, the DS is a gamer's system through and through, regardless of whatever the hell rating ESRB gives the games; and if you refuse a good game because it's rated E, well... You're the self-concious kid here.

And please realize;

Mature rating =/= Mature

[YET ANOTHER UPDATE,GREAT] Do you think Super Mario, Pokemon, and any other casual games are for adults?Is GTA, Fallout, Resident Evil and other M-rated games are for kids? 95% of all DS games are for kids, which is why it got a reputation as a kid console. Go get a PSP if you agree.( GTA on PSP doesn't look like the first GTA, unlike the DS version.)

[MORE UPDATES, WTF ] OK, fine. I'll sell my PSP and my PS3. I'll buy a DS and get all those boring kid games. I'll stop playing Tekken, COD, NFS, GTA, Fallout 3 and start playing Super Mario, Pokemon,cartoon games and give them 10/10 (sarcasm ends.)

tekken220

tekken220, it looks like you are digging you're own grave with that argument so I'll assist you. Adults have been known to play Super Mario and Pokemon. Have you ever heard of smogon.com, it is full of nothing but pokemon playing, hacking, adults. How do you know 95% of DS games are fo kids if you don't seem to know what 50% of them are (at least you haven't proved that you have you do)? At least you know that games make the console but due to your PSP advertisment this whole topic may have to be moved to console wars. If you need games for you're freshly bought DS that aren't too easy for you, you could buy games distributed by Atlus which as you "already know" have a reputation of being really hard. It is easy to find more mature games (not mature rated games) when you look for non-Nintendo titles.

[QUOTE="johnmatthais"][QUOTE="Raiko101"] eh, i'm 15 and i still enjoy playing a lot of these "kiddie" games...i even have a go at pokemon yellow every now and then ;D other side of it is, i also played dementium and metroid prime hunters, and the shooter scene on DS, yada yada you know WHY there's a lack of M-rated DS games? because it's so frikkin hard to make the gore that is required of a handheld game to be rated M without it looking stupid sure they did it in Dementium, but did the enemies bleed? No. there was blood EVERYWHERE BUT the enemies dude, go pick up every Final Fantasy game in existence, and then come back and try to say that DS is a kiddie system damn PS3 users oh and, there are a lot of M games out there that don't have blood or gore they have something called a mature storyline that kids wouldn't understand (literally the stroyline, get yer head out teh gutters) yeah,[QUOTE="Raiko101"][QUOTE="johnmatthais"][QUOTE="Raiko101"]It's annoying when people confused "DS games for kids" with "DS games suitable for kids". It happens so often and you can tell from such things whether or not you're even talking to some one who is old enough to play mature titles. Not that i'm having a go at you tekken220 or anything. You've already given us your age. It's just there's an typical teenage perception that anything without gory violence is a kiddy game.Raiko101

I'm pretty sure you've miss read my post if that whole post of yours was directed at me. I'm not calling any game or console "kiddie", but i'm saying most gamers do. Especially the younger generation of gamer who missed growing up in the 8/16-bit eras, which although had their fair share of violence and gore, would have learnt that such things never meant a game was any good. Personally I couldn't care if the games I played were brightly coloured and involved picking flowers, as long as they were fun. Animal Crossing, for example, is one of my favourite DS games.

Anyways, the lack of possible gore is not the reason behind a lack of M rated titles on the DS. If the Playstation could handle gore, and it hosted the gory Resident Evil series, then the DS can too. I don't know why Dementium would lack gore, but it wouldn't be anything to do with how unreleastic or stupid it looks. The gore in Deadly Silence is blocky sure, but it gets the job done. Again, an older gamer wouldn't be fussed with such things as they've seen far worse. Which again leads me to believe that its the younger gamers with the problem, again buying these games because the other games are to 'kiddie'.

Just to reiterate, i'm not saying this is typical of all young gamers, but a damn lot of them...

you lost me when you said super mario was a "boring kids game"lucifer3999

[QUOTE="tekken220"]

[YET ANOTHER UPDATE,GREAT] Do you think Super Mario, Pokemon, and any other casual games are for adults?Is GTA, Fallout, Resident Evil and other M-rated games are for kids? 95% of all DS games are for kids, which is why it got a reputation as a kid console. Go get a PSP if you agree.( GTA on PSP doesn't look like the first GTA, unlike the DS version.)

[MORE UPDATES, WTF ] OK, fine. I'll sell my PSP and my PS3. I'll buy a DS and get all those boring kid games. I'll stop playing Tekken, COD, NFS, GTA, Fallout 3 and start playing Super Mario, Pokemon,cartoon games and give them 10/10 (sarcasm ends.)

Burning-Sludge

tekken220, it looks like you are digging you're own grave with that argument so I'll assist you. Adults have been known to play Super Mario and Pokemon. Have you ever heard of smogon.com, it is full of nothing but pokemon playing, hacking, adults. How do you know 95% of DS games are fo kids if you don't seem to know what 50% of them are (at least you haven't proved that you have you do)? At least you know that games make the console but due to your PSP advertisment this whole topic may have to be moved to console wars. If you need games for you're freshly bought DS that aren't too easy for you, you could buy games distributed by Atlus which as

[QUOTE="tekken220"]

[YET ANOTHER UPDATE,GREAT] Do you think Super Mario, Pokemon, and any other casual games are for adults?Is GTA, Fallout, Resident Evil and other M-rated games are for kids? 95% of all DS games are for kids, which is why it got a reputation as a kid console. Go get a PSP if you agree.( GTA on PSP doesn't look like the first GTA, unlike the DS version.)

[MORE UPDATES, WTF ] OK, fine. I'll sell my PSP and my PS3. I'll buy a DS and get all those boring kid games. I'll stop playing Tekken, COD, NFS, GTA, Fallout 3 and start playing Super Mario, Pokemon,cartoon games and give them 10/10 (sarcasm ends.)

Burning-Sludge

tekken220, it looks like you are digging you're own grave with that argument so I'll assist you. Adults have been known to play Super Mario and Pokemon. Have you ever heard of smogon.com, it is full of nothing but pokemon playing, hacking, adults. How do you know 95% of DS games are fo kids if you don't seem to know what 50% of them are (at least you haven't proved that you have you do)? At least you know that games make the console but due to your PSP advertisment this whole topic may have to be moved to console wars. If you need games for you're freshly bought DS that aren't too easy for you, you could buy games distributed by Atlus which as you "already know" have a reputation of being really hard. It is easy to find more mature games (not mature rated games) when you look for non-Nintendo titles.

[QUOTE="johnmatthais"][QUOTE="Raiko101"]It's annoying when people confused "DS games for kids" with "DS games suitable for kids". It happens so often and you can tell from such things whether or not you're even talking to some one who is old enough to play mature titles. Not that i'm having a go at you tekken220 or anything. You've already given us your age. It's just there's an typical teenage perception that anything without gory violence is a kiddy game.Raiko101

I'm pretty sure you've miss read my post if that whole post of yours was directed at me. I'm not calling any game or console "kiddie", but i'm saying most gamers do. Especially the younger generation of gamer who missed growing up in the 8/16-bit eras, which although had their fair share of violence and gore, would have learnt that such things never meant a game was any good. Personally I couldn't care if the games I played were brightly coloured and involved picking flowers, as long as they were fun. Animal Crossing, for example, is one of my favourite DS games.

Anyways, the lack of possible gore is not the reason behind a lack of M rated titles on the DS. If the Playstation could handle gore, and it hosted the gory Resident Evil series, then the DS can too. I don't know why Dementium would lack gore, but it wouldn't be anything to do with how unreleastic or stupid it looks. The gore in Deadly Silence is blocky sure, but it gets the job done. Again, an older gamer wouldn't be fussed with such things as they've seen far worse. Which again leads me to believe that its the younger gamers with the problem, again buying these games because the other games are to 'kiddie'.

Just to reiterate, i'm not saying this is typical of all young gamers, but a damn lot of them...

just that first sentence was directed at you ;) the rest was directed at the other dude

i was trying to defend the DS by giving reasons why there aren't that many M-rated games on the DS. It takes a LOT of blood and gore to get rated M these days, and most developers aren't willing to put in that amount into a DS game when they don't really need it.

trying to prove that the OP is pretty wrong in his ideas. that's all

OMG! CALM DOWN!! You know they do have that little circle on the box, stating 15 or 18!! Are you some parent! Anyway Nintendo needs more M-Rated Games on their consoles i think, so that the Consoles aren't just boring-only for kids! Anyway im 13 and i play GTA, and i ain't going around killing people now am i? And its people like you who RANT AND RANT on, about these M-rated games, and make them have a bad popularity, and thats why Nintendo don't really get Resident Evil 5 or that! Can't you just give them a CHANCE!!! Please! M-Rated games are cool, and are entertaining, and their are funny! SO STOP BEING JUST A FUSSY, I DON'T LIKE M-RATED GAMES, SO I'LL PERSUDE PEOPLE NOT TO BUY'EM PERSON! PLEASE!

I have to agree with a lot of the other forum goers here. Your post is pretty silly and presumptuous. Just because you are a child doesn't mean every other DS gamer is. There are plenty of adult DS owners out there (myself included) and we do appreciate M rated titles (provided they are good off course). It's the parent's responsibility to make sure that their children do not get their hands on inappropriate material. If they don't think their kids should be playing GTA, then it is their responsibility to ensure that their kids do not buy the game. It is NOT the responsibility of the government, the games shop and definitely NOT the responsibility of game publishers. frazzle00

[QUOTE="frazzle00"]I have to agree with a lot of the other forum goers here. Your post is pretty silly and presumptuous. Just because you are a child doesn't mean every other DS gamer is. There are plenty of adult DS owners out there (myself included) and we do appreciate M rated titles (provided they are good off course). It's the parent's responsibility to make sure that their children do not get their hands on inappropriate material. If they don't think their kids should be playing GTA, then it is their responsibility to ensure that their kids do not buy the game. It is NOT the responsibility of the government, the games shop and definitely NOT the responsibility of game publishers. ComboTroop

just that first sentence was directed at you ;) the rest was directed at the other dude

i was trying to defend the DS by giving reasons why there aren't that many M-rated games on the DS. It takes a LOT of blood and gore to get rated M these days, and most developers aren't willing to put in that amount into a DS game when they don't really need it.

trying to prove that the OP is pretty wrong in his ideas. that's all

johnmatthais

Ah I see. Well that's my mis-reading error. I also thought it was Tekken220 that wrote your message lol. Sorry.

You've made yet another good point though. Why alienate an audience with the inclusion of gore? In doing so, you're potentially missing out on sales. I know it's a movie, not a game, but had The Dark Knight included the gore it well could have, so many fewer people would have been able to watch the movie. The same could be applied to the possible gory games being developed.