Mario Kart 7: No Single Player Vs. Mode

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#1 Posted by moltenix (2487 posts) -

So apparently, it looks like there won't be a Vs. Mode available for single player in Mario Kart 7. http://mariokart7.nintendo.com/modes/

THERE IS STILL THE REGULAR GRAND PRIX, TIME TRIALS, BATTLE MODE and MULTIPLAYER (local & online).

If you check out the link, there is a Vs. Mode available for multiplayer only. The version showed off at the LA Auto Show recently was supposedly the final version of the game and there was no sign of Vs. Mode (single player) either. Reports from people who have the game also say that there is no longer such a feature.

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Vs. Mode has been a feature included in the last two Mario Kart releases. It let you choose the engine class, CPU difficulty, number of races you wanted to do and how tracks were selected (choose, random) and other settings. In Mario Kart DS, this was an option for single-player only. In MKWii, this was basically the mode where you play local multiplayer although you still had the option of playing by yourself against 7 CPUs.

Now, some of you here are probably thinking: "Oh well, I didn't even use/care for Vs. Mode, besides we've got the improved online."

Hopefully, there's also some of you that are like me and really disappointed that they excluded this feature. I actually didn't play much of MKDS' online so Vs. Mode was my most played mode in that game. After I had 3 star's all the Grand Prix's and got tired of Time Trials, Vs. Mode was the mode that I kept going back to. It was great for playing in short bursts where you could just freely select some of your favorite courses to play on. Another fun thing I liked doing was setting the number of races to 32 and doing an "All-Cup Tour" of every single track in the game.

Looks like that won't be happening with Mario Kart 7. There's no option to pick tracks in Grand Prix or anything like that either. I know they've really improved the online and i'm really looking forward to that but Vs. Mode would've been great for when you don't have access to wifi. Considering this game is on a portable system, it would've made even less sense that it was removed.

#2 Posted by Wanderer5 (25723 posts) -

My hype for this game just went down alot. I have love Vs mode alot and mostly use it for SP so not being able to play SP in that mode is a huge letdown and also stupid.

Edit: Are you really sure about that? Becasue that site doesn't really say that there is no SP. Maybe they wanted to promote the MP part? And wasn't the version at the LA auto show just a demo? I don't know... But oh man I going to be piss if it true.

#3 Posted by Rod90 (7266 posts) -
I was not getting Mario Kart 7 anyway, so I don't care (I already have Mario Kart Wii). Too bad though for the people who played on this game mode.
#4 Posted by achilles614 (4858 posts) -
Ha wow, I most likely won't be buying this now, my only interest was in that vs mode, I'm not a fan of playing it online so much.
#5 Posted by moltenix (2487 posts) -

My hype for this game just went down alot. I have love Vs mode alot and mostly use it for SP so not being able to play SP in that mode is a huge letdown and also stupid.

Edit: Are you really sure about that? Becasue that site doesn't really say that there is no SP. Maybe they wanted to promote the MP part? And wasn't the version at the LA auto show just a demo? I don't know... But oh man I going to be piss if it true.

Wanderer5

http://www.gamexplain.com/article-629-1321996131-mario-kart-7-unlockables-characters-and-car-parts.html Here's someone with the game from Gamexplain; note some of the replies he's made in the comments regarding if there's a vs. mode.

There is a Vs. Mode in the Multiplayer section of the game that lets you race locally with up to 7 other friends but it doesn't let you race alone. Supposedly, it's set up so that you're stuck in a waiting room until at least one other person joins. So technically, if you have a friend or sibling with a 3DS, you can kinda play Vs. Mode but I don't think we can do it alone like in MKDS.

#6 Posted by Wanderer5 (25723 posts) -

http://www.gamexplain.com/article-629-1321996131-mario-kart-7-unlockables-characters-and-car-parts.html Here's someone with the game from Gamexplain; note some of the replies he's made in the comments regarding if there's a vs. mode.

There is a Vs. Mode in the Multiplayer section of the game that lets you race locally with up to 7 other friends but it doesn't let you race alone. Supposedly, it's set up so that you're stuck in a waiting room until at least one other person joins. So technically, if you have a friend or sibling with a 3DS, you can kinda play Vs. Mode but I don't think we can do it alone like in MKDS.

moltenix

Well **** you Nintendo if that the case. Now I not sure if I want this now. I love the online MP stuff but SP Vs is just as important to me and would have been great to do some quick races between clas.ses and such. How stupid of Nintendo to do this.

#7 Posted by moltenix (2487 posts) -

I know how you feel. As much as I love Nintendo's games, you can't help but question what the heck they're thinking sometimes.

In that link above, he does mention some kind of unlockable (which he can't mention till release) when you get at least 1 star on every cup. Doubt it Versus mode though.

What makes me really sad is that I absolutely love the tracks in this game (both new and retro). Heck, the only reason i'm disappointed is that I won't be able to choose the tracks I want to race in. Even a 'track select' in Grand Prix after you've beaten all the cups would've been fine with me. The game is out next week so we'll know for sure but i'm not getting my hopes up.

#8 Posted by TankZorz (1836 posts) -
I think we should wait until the game is actually out. There is no point in getting worked up without all the information.
#9 Posted by hydralisk86 (8556 posts) -
Wait, so is vs Mode basically competing against computers?
#10 Posted by KiD_ReMiX (255 posts) -

I never played this mode before. Heck, I didn't even know it existed, so its absence won't affect me at all.

#11 Posted by moltenix (2487 posts) -

Wait, so is vs Mode basically competing against computers?hydralisk86

Are you familiar with previous Mario Kart games by any chance?

There is the Grand Prix mode where there's 8 cups to race in (each with 4 races). You race against the CPU in Grand Prix where each of the 4 races in a cup are ordered, you race through the same order of races each time. This is the mode where you usually unlock things like new characters. Kinda like the "campaign mode" in other types of games.

In previous games, there was also a Vs. Mode for single player where you also race against the CPU. But here, you have the option of picking settings like the number of races you want to do, and the option to choose any of the tracks or have the tracks be chosen randomly. Apparently in the new Mario Kart 7, they aren't including this mode anymore.

#12 Posted by TankZorz (1836 posts) -

[QUOTE="hydralisk86"]Wait, so is vs Mode basically competing against computers?moltenix

Are you familiar with previous Mario Kart games by any chance?

There is the Grand Prix mode where there's 8 cups to race in (each with 4 races). You race against the CPU in Grand Prix where each of the 4 races in a cup are ordered, you race through the same order of races each time. This is the mode where you usually unlock things like new characters. Kinda like the "campaign mode" in other types of games.

In previous games, there was also a Vs. Mode for single player where you also race against the CPU. But here, you have the option of picking settings like the number of races you want to do, and the option to choose any of the tracks or have the tracks be chosen randomly. Apparently in the new Mario Kart 7, they aren't including this mode anymore.

It was only in a few of the previous games.

#13 Posted by moltenix (2487 posts) -

[QUOTE="moltenix"]

[QUOTE="hydralisk86"]Wait, so is vs Mode basically competing against computers?TankZorz

Are you familiar with previous Mario Kart games by any chance?

There is the Grand Prix mode where there's 8 cups to race in (each with 4 races). You race against the CPU in Grand Prix where each of the 4 races in a cup are ordered, you race through the same order of races each time. This is the mode where you usually unlock things like new characters. Kinda like the "campaign mode" in other types of games.

In previous games, there was also a Vs. Mode for single player where you also race against the CPU. But here, you have the option of picking settings like the number of races you want to do, and the option to choose any of the tracks or have the tracks be chosen randomly. Apparently in the new Mario Kart 7, they aren't including this mode anymore.

It was only in a few of the previous games.

Well, the two recent one's at least. Still don't see why they would remove it now though.

#14 Posted by Wanderer5 (25723 posts) -

Well, the two recent one's at least. Still don't see why they would remove it now though.

moltenix

There was also quick run in the GBA one which was pretty much a more simple Vs.

#15 Posted by BrunoBRS (73261 posts) -
can i still battle single player? yes? then i'm fine.
#16 Posted by hydralisk86 (8556 posts) -
I'm thinking I would have been spending more time doing online matches anyways, so i'll still get this game.
#17 Posted by Wanderer5 (25723 posts) -

Blah I probably still get it so I can do some online MP stuff on my 3DS and it pretty much the only 3DS game now and in the horizon that has online MP thatlooks good and fun to me. It just that there going to be a big hole of disappointment, but hey if the rest of the game is top notch then I probably still like it alot.

#18 Posted by scottahuch (1580 posts) -

It's very strange to not include this... It doesn't bother me very much though.

#19 Posted by painguy1 (8686 posts) -

I never even knew you could do that so idc

#20 Posted by BigBen11111 (1528 posts) -

That's a shame, I like playing by myself at times, but it's probably Nintendo's way of getting more people toplaying online.

#21 Posted by ZumaJones07 (16458 posts) -
Why take it out on the portable version!? Super Circuit had the quick run and then Double Dash took it out because it was a console version (so I thought). They put it back in MKDS, kept it in MKW, and then removed it in the game we need vs mode the most. I think Nintendo thinks that anyone who has a 3DS is going always going to be close to someone else with a 3DS.
#22 Posted by Aquat1cF1sh (10904 posts) -
I never used Vs. Mode before.
#23 Posted by KiD_ReMiX (255 posts) -

Why take it out on the portable version!? Super Circuit had the quick run and then Double Dash took it out because it was a console version (so I thought). They put it back in MKDS, kept it in MKW, and then removed it in the game we need vs mode the most. I think Nintendo thinks that anyone who has a 3DS is going always going to be close to someone else with a 3DS.ZumaJones07

Or they just assumed that most people are going to go online for vs matches. This thread actually inspired me to get out mkds and play around with the vs mode and I really don't see what's the big deal about it missing. It's not as fun as playing against human players online. I could see if you want to use it offline as practice, but the cpu's are easy to beat even on hard mode, so there's no challenge to it. On the other hand, human players are always getting better and better and playing against them only sharpens your skills. But that's just my own opinion. I can see from the thread there are many people upset about vs mode possibly being excluded from MK7, so they obviously have a different perspective from mine, which I respect.

#24 Posted by ZumaJones07 (16458 posts) -
If the 3DS had 3G then this wouldn't be an issue.
#25 Posted by Calvin079 (16406 posts) -

My hype for this game just went down alot. I have love Vs mode alot and mostly use it for SP so not being able to play SP in that mode is a huge letdown and also stupid.

Edit: Are you really sure about that? Becasue that site doesn't really say that there is no SP. Maybe they wanted to promote the MP part? And wasn't the version at the LA auto show just a demo? I don't know... But oh man I going to bemad if its true.Wanderer5

I mainly play using that mode. If its not in there, I won't be happy.

#26 Posted by TankZorz (1836 posts) -
IF this really is true I'll go back to what I did before MKDS: GRAND PRIX FOR HOURS!
#27 Posted by FPS1337 (2517 posts) -
We'll have to wait for the game to come but honestly I would never play mario kart by myself, why would you face computers when you can go online, or go in grand prix. It's not that big of a deal, I never played mario kart vs. computers except grand prix.
#28 Posted by moltenix (2487 posts) -

Looks like there really isn't any form of single player Vs. Mode.

Oh well, i'm still gonna have lots of fun with the game. I still think it was a stupid decision not to include it though.

#29 Posted by bonesawisready5 (4713 posts) -

I know how you feel. As much as I love Nintendo's games, you can't help but question what the heck they're thinking sometimes.

In that link above, he does mention some kind of unlockable (which he can't mention till release) when you get at least 1 star on every cup. Doubt it Versus mode though.

What makes me really sad is that I absolutely love the tracks in this game (both new and retro). Heck, the only reason i'm disappointed is that I won't be able to choose the tracks I want to race in. Even a 'track select' in Grand Prix after you've beaten all the cups would've been fine with me. The game is out next week so we'll know for sure but i'm not getting my hopes up.

moltenix

Question: Take out a mode that a smal amount of people bought the game for in order to distribute resources to other areas of the game.

I'd say its a win. I would've liked this mode, but its no deal breaker for me.

#30 Posted by King9999 (11835 posts) -

It's clear that multiplayer is the reason to buy MK7. I don't care about Vs. mode, but I was bummed to learn that they took away the mission mode. That was good times. :(

#31 Posted by NaveedLife (17179 posts) -

Very strange, but it doesnt bother me. I play MK for the MP. Heck, I cannot think of anytime I picked up a mario kart game to play singleplayer without wanting to unlock something or set a ghost. But I can see why some would be a bit frustrated with this.

#32 Posted by ChibiXRiku (213 posts) -
Let me go to japan and find 6 people to play multiplayer with at all times of the day then.
#33 Posted by PoisoN_Facecam0 (3734 posts) -
Having played online for about an hour so far. I have to say i'm not missing it at all. the online is remarkably well done for a handheld.. let alone a Nintendo game..
#34 Posted by chocolate1325 (32557 posts) -

I think that it maybe needs a bit extra in Single Player.

#35 Posted by ShuichiChamp24 (5014 posts) -
What is VS single mode?
#36 Posted by TankZorz (1836 posts) -
What is VS single mode?ShuichiChamp24
It let you pick the track, difficulty, whether or not there were teams and maybe a couple other things and play against comps. Nothing spectacular though. It was nice but I'll just play Grand Prix like I did before there was a versus mode.
#37 Posted by Heirren (17396 posts) -

I never played the vs mode, anyways. Always would just sit down and go through a cup and see if I could beat all my times in one sitting.

#38 Posted by daiyume (308 posts) -

If I'm not mistaken, couldn't you just go on multi-player to choose VS, select all slots to be filled by CPUs instead of players and it'd get the same result anyway? I think Mario Kart DS had options for LAN multi-player and Wi-Fi multi-player and you'd be able to do that on LAN without having to go online. If MK7 is the same, it shouldn't be an issue.

#39 Posted by moltenix (2487 posts) -

If I'm not mistaken, couldn't you just go on multi-player to choose VS, select all slots to be filled by CPUs instead of players and it'd get the same result anyway? I think Mario Kart DS had options for LAN multi-player and Wi-Fi multi-player and you'd be able to do that on LAN without having to go online. If MK7 is the same, it shouldn't be an issue.

daiyume

From what i've heard, you have to wait in a lobby until at least one other person joins. There isn't an option to add CPUs in place of other players if you're by yourself.

#40 Posted by Kaze_no_Mirai (11427 posts) -

I never played this mode before. Heck, I didn't even know it existed, so its absence won't affect me at all.

KiD_ReMiX
Same here :P
#41 Posted by My3DS (17 posts) -

I played mariokart 7 for about 45 minutes online and my battery was due for a charge, however it was great online racing.

#42 Posted by nini200 (9827 posts) -
Um, ok??? This was a weird move if true.
#43 Posted by FrankFontaine1 (2 posts) -
Seems kinda like a step back for Mario Kart.
#44 Posted by Ghost120x (3919 posts) -
Yeah this sucks. I used to use vs for practice on a particular stage but I guess I have to use time trial mode now
#45 Posted by RACiEP (687 posts) -
I thought I was just being dumb and couldn't find this option in the menu. It's actually pretty disappointing for me. I don't see why they removed it either. What if you want to pick it up and play one quick game on the road and don't have any WiFi? I would use this feature all the time on Super Circuit to practice tracks and just play my favorite ones.
#46 Posted by Raiko101 (3339 posts) -
It's not a major loss in my opinion. While I like the idea of picking out individual tracks to race on, it's not like I can't still race on them using the traditional cup method.
#47 Posted by MarioFan264 (780 posts) -
Makes no difference to me. I didn't realize that VS. mode was such a big thing until so many people started complaining about it. Honestly, I have much larger issues with Mario Kart 7 that make it frustrating. The lack of VS. mode is the least of my worries.
#48 Posted by RACiEP (687 posts) -
Makes no difference to me. I didn't realize that VS. mode was such a big thing until so many people started complaining about it. Honestly, I have much larger issues with Mario Kart 7 that make it frustrating. The lack of VS. mode is the least of my worries.MarioFan264
What are your issues? I'm just curious, not trying to be rude.
#49 Posted by Wanderer5 (25723 posts) -

Well I still got the game anyway and still enjoy it, but the lack of Vs still stings me a bit. Well at least Battle mode can be fun, even through I still don't like Balloon mode as much as before MKWii.

#50 Posted by darkspineslayer (19821 posts) -

Well I still got the game anyway and still enjoy it, but the lack of Vs still stings me a bit. Well at least Battle mode can be fun, even through I still don't like Balloon mode as much as before MKWii.

Wanderer5
Havn't really noticed it missing to be honest. maybe because I still have to beat the cups in Grand Prix and always enjoyed Time Trial ghosts anyways. now I have an unlimited supply.