anyone ready for the next nintendo home console?

#1 Posted by KBFloYd (14633 posts) -

handheld owners will get the new 3ds in 2015.

but for console fans....we have seen what the gamepad has to offer. it was great. now im ready for the next umm gimmick or whatever.
wiiu launched in 2012...in 2015 it will be 3 years. in 3 years is plenty of time to see what a console has to offer imo.

console cycles should get lowered to 3 years imo. a new nintendo home console for christmas 2015 :)

#2 Posted by PikachuDude860 (1321 posts) -

Eh. Too soon. Wii U still has a lot of life left in it. Plus games like Metroid, Animal Crossing, Pokemon and others haven't come out.

IMO, 2017 would be a good time for a new Nintendo home console...Maybe the Ultra Nintendo? (Ultra HD? 4K?)

PS: the New 3DS isn't a new console. It's just a beefed up regular 3DS/3DSXL....With extra buttons and a nub.

#3 Posted by Celsius765 (765 posts) -

uhhh no at least give it four more years. Nintendo has built up too much consumer faith to lose it like that. Besides it's a good learning tool for many of nnintendos programmers who are learning how to program in HD for the first time and how to make and manage an online network

#4 Edited by KBFloYd (14633 posts) -

@Celsius765 said:

uhhh no at least give it four more years. Nintendo has built up too much consumer faith to lose it like that. Besides it's a good learning tool for many of nnintendos programmers who are learning how to program in HD for the first time and how to make and manage an online network

4 years? hell no

consumers are stupid they buy a new phone every year...they can buy a console every 3 years.

#5 Posted by KBFloYd (14633 posts) -

@pikachudude860 said:

Eh. Too soon. Wii U still has a lot of life left in it. Plus games like Metroid, Animal Crossing, Pokemon and others haven't come out.

IMO, 2017 would be a good time for a new Nintendo home console...Maybe the Ultra Nintendo? (Ultra HD? 4K?)

PS: the New 3DS isn't a new console. It's just a beefed up regular 3DS/3DSXL....With extra buttons and a nub.

this is nintendos fault...these games should be out already.

but even then....why not just release it for the next console? who says every console has to have all the 1st party titles...maybe spread them out in the new 3 year cycle plan.

#6 Posted by YearoftheSnake5 (8016 posts) -

No. I really like the Wii U and want it to receive a few more years of support.

@pikachudude860 said:

IMO, 2017 would be a good time for a new Nintendo home console.

I agree with this. 2017, I'm all for it.

#7 Posted by Aquat1cF1sh (10934 posts) -

Yeah 2017 sounds good. I still feel like the WiiU generation is just starting.

#8 Edited by Celsius765 (765 posts) -

@KBFloYd said:

@Celsius765 said:

uhhh no at least give it four more years. Nintendo has built up too much consumer faith to lose it like that. Besides it's a good learning tool for many of nnintendos programmers who are learning how to program in HD for the first time and how to make and manage an online network

4 years? hell no

consumers are stupid they buy a new phone every year...they can buy a console every 3 years.

yeah that's a long time but I don't want them to release a new console too soon, that's what sega did and it caused them to drop out of console manufacturing

#9 Posted by YearoftheSnake5 (8016 posts) -

@KBFloYd said:

a new phone every year

Keyword: phone

It's a different market with different expectations.

#10 Posted by KBFloYd (14633 posts) -

@Celsius765 said:

@KBFloYd said:

@Celsius765 said:

uhhh no at least give it four more years. Nintendo has built up too much consumer faith to lose it like that. Besides it's a good learning tool for many of nnintendos programmers who are learning how to program in HD for the first time and how to make and manage an online network

4 years? hell no

consumers are stupid they buy a new phone every year...they can buy a console every 3 years.

yeah that's a long time but I don't want them to release a new console too soon, that's what sega did and it caused them to drop out of console manufacturing

genesis released 1990...saturn in 94...dreamcast in 99

snes was released 91...n64 in 96 ...gamecube in 2001

not much different really.....i think what hurt sega was all the peripherals...32x...segacd...plus playstation took over their whole market catering to the grown up.."mature gamers"

#11 Posted by Solaryellow (740 posts) -
@KBFloYd said:

this is nintendos fault...these games should be out already.

but even then....why not just release it for the next console? who says every console has to have all the 1st party titles...maybe spread them out in the new 3 year cycle plan.

Nintendo might very well go that route. Metroid skipped the N64 and I wouldn't be surprised if it the Wii U never gets a new Metroid release

#12 Posted by bunchanumbers (2459 posts) -

I believe its the other way around. I believe that the 3DS got the NEW treatment so that it can extend its lifespan. I think that the new 3DS will run until 2017 when Nintendo will release a new console/handheld hybrid.

#13 Edited by mariokart97 (865 posts) -

Personally, I love the Wii U, it has many more years of life in it.

You TC are not thinking straight, ever heard of sega? And how they supported the saturn for 3 years? And how did that turn out? It's like you took nothing from the event of a hardware giant dieing.

IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN A HAPPY FANBASE YOU MUST KEEP THE PROMISE OF DELIVERING THE SOFTWARE IN WHICH MAKES THE CONSUMER HAPPY ABOUT BUYING IT TO BETTER LEGITIMIZE THE PURCHASE OF A SUCCESSOR CONSOLE. OTHERWISE YOU RISK CONSUMERS LOSING FAITH IN THE COMPANY......SEGA.

#14 Posted by KBFloYd (14633 posts) -

@mariokart97 said:

Personally, I love the Wii U, it has many more years of life in it.

You TC are not thinking straight, ever heard of sega? And how they supported the saturn for 3 years? And how did that turn out? It's like you took nothing from the event of a hardware giant dieing.

IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN A HAPPY FANBASE YOU MUST KEEP THE PROMISE OF DELIVERING THE SOFTWARE IN WHICH MAKES THE CONSUMER HAPPY ABOUT BUYING IT TO BETTER LEGITIMIZE THE PURCHASE OF A SUCCESSOR CONSOLE. OTHERWISE YOU RISK CONSUMERS LOSING FAITH IN THE COMPANY......SEGA.

I AM ALREADY HAPPY ...

#15 Posted by TTUalumni13 (752 posts) -

Yes, but it won't happen anytime soon... The Wii U was a dud, and while it will get it's good games, the hardware and online features do nothing for me. Miiverse is a completely useless feature that is fun for a few minutes and then devolves into people wanting attention, and the gamepads potential was realized a few months in.

Next!

#16 Edited by Chozofication (3792 posts) -

@YearoftheSnake5 said:

No. I really like the Wii U and want it to receive a few more years of support.

@pikachudude860 said:

IMO, 2017 would be a good time for a new Nintendo home console.

I agree with this. 2017, I'm all for it.

All of this.

#17 Edited by tocool340 (20658 posts) -

Part of me wish they would, other part would be extremely pissed if there was a announcement that they were pseudo upgrading the Wii U after I decide to get one ( I'm waiting to see if there will be a special Smash Bros. bundle)....

#18 Edited by KBFloYd (14633 posts) -

@ttualumni13 said:

Yes, but it won't happen anytime soon... The Wii U was a dud, and while it will get it's good games, the hardware and online features do nothing for me. Miiverse is a completely useless feature that is fun for a few minutes and then devolves into people wanting attention, and the gamepads potential was realized a few months in.

Next!

#19 Edited by pyro1245 (1073 posts) -

No! I haven't even played all the Wii games I want to play; let alone Wii U games.

#20 Posted by ANIMEguy10034 (4877 posts) -

Nah, I'll be ready by 2017. We still have not seen what the Wii U is truly capable of. It still needs that extremely innovative, genre-defining Nintendo game, like what OoT was for the N64, Metroid Prime for GC, and Mario Galaxy for Wii.

#21 Posted by superbuuman (3211 posts) -

@YearoftheSnake5 said:

No. I really like the Wii U and want it to receive a few more years of support.

@pikachudude860 said:

IMO, 2017 would be a good time for a new Nintendo home console.

I agree with this. 2017, I'm all for it.

^ These 2 people I agree with 2017. :P

#22 Posted by Glutenbob (249 posts) -

Hell no..its too soon. 2018 at the EARLIEST!!!

#23 Posted by trugs26 (5852 posts) -

No. I'm not ready. I want at least 3 more years.

#24 Edited by MirkoS77 (8188 posts) -

Doesn't really matter to me. I would argue I expect an investment like a console to be supported by its company, but I bought mine completelty content with the library available at that time and knowing not much better should be expected. I believe Nintendo has supported it enough for what I paid for it. Everything from here on out is bonus.

I don't expect anything from Nintendo nowadays. They have tragically turned into a mere afterthought and bore of a company for me, shoveling out the expected, and when they do take "risks" they're always eshop IPs and anything mid-tier budget at best is dressed up in familiar clothing. Their online's behind. VC sucks. They barely market. Support to the West is half-assed, to pay it a compliment. Just struck me: Nintendo's about as relevant to me as importing games, only difference is, they're localized. They're a Japanese gaming company whose products hold world-wide appeal and they take steps to make their works accessible, but that's as far as it goes. They are not a global-focused company that holds any real serious interest in any market that's not Japanese.

Subsequently, Nintendo has, frankly, bored me out of interest of what they offer. Well, I'm not there COMPLTELY yet but they in their insularity, neglection, arrogance and stubborn philosophies of many things has me to the point of throwing up my hands in disgust and walking away. I've never wanted to love a company so much, yet hate it so much at the same time.

But I digress. Unless Nintendo undergoes radical and rampant change in various aspects of the way they run their business, I more than likely won't buy anymore of their products.....if they released tomorrow, or in a few years. Things HAVE to change, and not little ones.

#25 Posted by starwolf474 (969 posts) -

No, 5 years is the ideal lifespan of a console, so the next Nintendo console should launch in 2017.

#27 Posted by AutoPilotOn (8580 posts) -

ASAP I hope. I'd give it till 2017 though probably so they get 5 years in. I'd be much happier with a sooner release but it would hurt them to give up on the wiiu so soon.

#28 Posted by AutoPilotOn (8580 posts) -

Also I'd settle for a major overhaul to the wiiu OS and online/friends/chat features to hold me over those 3 more years. They should be able to make it on par with ps3 and 360 online at least. I know people like to act like trophies and achievements don't matter but it is still a feature they should add to be on par some people like it and if u don't just ignore it. Being able to chat and party up between 3ds and wiiu would be nice. There is so much catching up to do.

#29 Posted by KBFloYd (14633 posts) -

@Glutenbob said:

Hell no..its too soon. 2018 at the EARLIEST!!!

wayyy too long.

#30 Posted by KBFloYd (14633 posts) -

@scottpsfan14 said:

I agree. Wii U is a disastrous piece of shit. Bring on Nintendo Revolution (PlayStation Slayer) I've been anticipating since the Wii rumors in 2005. Go on Ninty. Lure me away from PlayStation like the GameCube almost did. I dare you.

if the wiiU is a piece of shit then the other consoles are the peanuts inside it.

#32 Posted by osan0 (12983 posts) -

3 years is too short for a console. there not mobile phones. it takes 2 years at least to develop a big game and once the new one is out content will just stop dead for the existing one.

5 years, roughly, is the correct duration before a replacement appears. its enough time for developers and publishers to make money on the platform. its enough time for tech to arrive where the upgrade is actually worth it and its enough time for players to get out of their system. if the manufacturer cant recoup their R&D costs within 5 years then they are doing something wrong.

for better worse nintendo are stuck with the wiiu until 2017 roughly.

#33 Posted by super600 (31032 posts) -

@bunchanumbers said:

I believe its the other way around. I believe that the 3DS got the NEW treatment so that it can extend its lifespan. I think that the new 3DS will run until 2017 when Nintendo will release a new console/handheld hybrid.

Nintendo won't be releasing a hybrid console/handheld next gen. Both the console and handheld will be more like brothers next gen.

#34 Posted by mariokart97 (865 posts) -

@KBFloYd said:

@mariokart97 said:

Personally, I love the Wii U, it has many more years of life in it.

You TC are not thinking straight, ever heard of sega? And how they supported the saturn for 3 years? And how did that turn out? It's like you took nothing from the event of a hardware giant dieing.

IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN A HAPPY FANBASE YOU MUST KEEP THE PROMISE OF DELIVERING THE SOFTWARE IN WHICH MAKES THE CONSUMER HAPPY ABOUT BUYING IT TO BETTER LEGITIMIZE THE PURCHASE OF A SUCCESSOR CONSOLE. OTHERWISE YOU RISK CONSUMERS LOSING FAITH IN THE COMPANY......SEGA.

I AM ALREADY HAPPY ...

Well sheesh my bad I didn't know, it seemed like you were sick of the Wii U or something lol. Yeah oops didn't mean to snap but I wish all Nintendo consoles had lifespans of like Xbox 360 and PS3 honestly, my personal opinion and I get why you're ready to move on but I like when a console has more games under it's belt.

#35 Posted by zeroyaoi (1972 posts) -

Too soon for another home console.

#36 Edited by Master_Of_Fools (1417 posts) -

Wii U will last till 2017-2018. Far to soon for Nintendo's next home console.

#37 Posted by Megavideogamer (5545 posts) -

NES 1985, SNES 1991, N64 1996, Gamecube 2001, Wii, 2006, Wii U, 2012, So by this timetime the next Nintendo home console will release in 2017/2018 depending if Nintendo goes with a 5 or 6 year gap between console releases. I will say that Nintendo will hold out until 2018 since they need time to sort out exactly what they intend to do.

Nintendo will tough it out with the Wii U since they survived the lean Gamecube years and Nintendo 64 years. They Nintendo 64 had the lowest number of games in it's entire library. 389 games-425 games when all worldwide region releases are included even the Nintendo DD releases. The Wii U is going to be hard pressed to beat the Gamecube total worldwide sales 21.74 million and the Nintendo 64 total number of games. The Wii U era will be the leanest for the big N.

So in 2018 Nintendo has to make their 7th home console equal to the Xbox 4 and Playstation 5. But Nintendo is going to have to launch again. I am ready for a new Nintendo console, But Nintendo is not even close to being ready, They at least had been best thinking about what the 7th Nintendo will be like.

#38 Posted by superbuuman (3211 posts) -

Well probably because Nintendo wasted 1 year head start..so that 1 year feels like it doesn't count. 2017 is about right...announce new system E3 2016, new console launch in 2017. Of course it will be better if they want to support it for longer. :P

#39 Posted by ail_taco (120 posts) -

so far they only came out with 2 games that interested me

#40 Posted by mariokart64fan (19667 posts) -

Are you out of your mind. And if wiius a pos then the other consoles are diarrhea lol BC all that power yet 99 percent of the games I've seen so far arevl cross Gen ports etc

#41 Posted by TJDMHEM (337 posts) -

i'm ready.

#42 Posted by simuseb2 (178 posts) -

@KBFloYd said:

handheld owners will get the new 3ds in 2015.

but for console fans....we have seen what the gamepad has to offer. it was great. now im ready for the next umm gimmick or whatever.

wiiu launched in 2012...in 2015 it will be 3 years. in 3 years is plenty of time to see what a console has to offer imo.

console cycles should get lowered to 3 years imo. a new nintendo home console for christmas 2015 :)

Consoles rarely make a profit on the hardware itself. All their dough comes from video games. Unfortunately, it takes a long time to build the console's audience, thus their long lifespan.

#43 Posted by Heirren (18799 posts) -

It won't happen till one to one and a half years after Zelda. Even then there's likely another Mario game in the mix-------------though maybe that gets shifted to the next console.

#44 Edited by The-Butcher248 (242 posts) -

@Solaryellow said:
@KBFloYd said:

this is nintendos fault...these games should be out already.

but even then....why not just release it for the next console? who says every console has to have all the 1st party titles...maybe spread them out in the new 3 year cycle plan.

Nintendo might very well go that route. Metroid skipped the N64 and I wouldn't be surprised if it the Wii U never gets a new Metroid release

Haven't they already said they've began work on a new metroid for Wii U / 3DS?

A 3 year lifespan for a console is unrealistic... it's takes YEARS for some games to be developed (Zelda). It takes years to develop the hardware. Nintendo dropped a new console would alienate the fans that purchased/supported the Wii U . I wouldn't mind them releasing a "new" Wii U, with HD battery life, and stuff. But it would cost way too much for nintendo to develop a release a new console now.

#45 Posted by SexyPorkins (1221 posts) -

I'm with everyone else...3 years is just not enough time. I just got a Wii U this year (Mario Kart Bundle), I would not be happy if they turned around and announced a new console (which they won't).

#46 Posted by AlCapwnUK (92 posts) -

if it was backward compatibble with Wii and Wii U i'd take it, but only because I haven't bought a Wii U yet

#47 Posted by Grieverr (2767 posts) -

I'm not ready for a new console altogether (though I am looking forward to see what they do), but I am ready for a refresh. Not one like they're doing with the New 3DS. No new features that make the existing library unplayable.

- I would be ok with a console redesign. The Wii U looks like an external disc drive. Give it a more modern, exciting look, while keeping a low profile that looks good under a flat screen TV.
- Add an internal HDD. Because it's Nintendo, I'll give them a pass and say 250GB is ok. Since none of the games install, that space would be all for DLC, VC games, and save files.
- Add another 1GB of internal memory for the OS.
- Remove the Wara Wara Plaza as the default and main OS screen. Make it an app where if you're interested in it, you'd select it from the menu. Have a clean/simple main menu that loads quickly.

I think the above would make the Wii U experience a little better while not being radical. These are things I think Nintendo can actually address realistically.

#48 Edited by lamprey263 (25398 posts) -

Too soon, launching a new console early would make people who supported the Wii U feel betrayed, it'd make them not want to support Nintendo since they can do it all over again, I'm sure the New 3DS shitting on everyone with a 3DS will only compound that effect. It'd basically alienate Nintendo from their consumers and basically cause Nintendo to dig its own grave. They might as well just ditch out on home hardware and make third party games for Sony and Microsoft.