Ars Technica recognizes iOS as biggest gaming platform

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http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/08/data-suggests-ios-may-be-the-most-popular-gaming-platform-of-all-time/ Seems like only yesterday when so many people laughed at the possibility of iOS as a gaming platform
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They laugh right through the facts, too. SW isn't taking to the information too kindly, even though it comes from Arstechnica, one of SW bastions of truth and wisdom, lol.
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They laugh right through the facts, too. SW isn't taking to the information too kindly, even though it comes from Arstechnica, one of SW bastions of truth and wisdom, lol.musicalmac
I gave perfectly legitimate responses, most of which you ignored.
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What about facebook? What about nokia feature phones which are used for gaming?

And really comon you cant compare mobile platforms with console/PC gaming due to the huge difference in pricing of software. They are very different form of entertainment and will happily co-exist together.

Handheld gaming on the other hand? Doomed!!

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Over the PC? How can any reasonable person even claim that?
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Over the PC? How can any reasonable person even claim that?red12355
Basic statistics. Read article.
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What about facebook? What about nokia feature phones which are used for gaming?

And really comon you cant compare mobile platforms with console/PC gaming due to the huge difference in pricing of software. They are very different form of entertainment and will happily co-exist together.

Handheld gaming on the other hand? Doomed!!

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iOS is a bigger gaming platform than Facebook, and especially Nokia. They didn't go by number of iOS users. They went with number of GameCenter accounts that were activated. It was a nice run for Sony and Nintendo in the handheld department.. But it looks like Apple's the boss now. .
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

What about facebook? What about nokia feature phones which are used for gaming?

And really comon you cant compare mobile platforms with console/PC gaming due to the huge difference in pricing of software. They are very different form of entertainment and will happily co-exist together.

Handheld gaming on the other hand? Doomed!!

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iOS is a bigger gaming platform than Facebook, and especially Nokia. They didn't go by number of iOS users. They went with number of GameCenter accounts that were activated. It was a nice run for Sony and Nintendo in the handheld department.. But it looks like Apple's the boss now. .

Obviously not. From the article: "Considering the Playstation 2's roughly 150 million unit sales, that would rank iOS as the third most popular gaming platform of all time."
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

What about facebook? What about nokia feature phones which are used for gaming?

And really comon you cant compare mobile platforms with console/PC gaming due to the huge difference in pricing of software. They are very different form of entertainment and will happily co-exist together.

Handheld gaming on the other hand? Doomed!!

Kid-Atari

iOS is a bigger gaming platform than Facebook, and especially Nokia. They didn't go by number of iOS users. They went with number of GameCenter accounts that were activated. It was a nice run for Sony and Nintendo in the handheld department.. But it looks like Apple's the boss now. .

Your article does not consider facebook and android gaming. FAIL!!!!

/thread.

It's so so funny how "pure numbers" matter so much when it's in your favour but when suddenly I'll bring in android you will come up with some silly excuse to discredit the numbers and talk about "deeper" statistics lol.

EDIT: lol the article says "may in future" and your title says "recognises as biggest" lol this is an obvious troll thread and should be locked....

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[QUOTE="red12355"]Over the PC? How can any reasonable person even claim that?Kid-Atari
Basic statistics. Read article.

Since when was specifically ignoring the PC platform and using account numbers for an optional app considered basic statistics? It's using account numbers, which is incredibly inaccurate. There are 600 million+ Facebook accounts, but that doesn't automatically mean PC is the largest platform. The 450 million + copies of Windows 7 sold prove that.

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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="Kid-Atari"][QUOTE="red12355"] GameCenter account numbers. Not iOS account numbers. Just like not all 600 million

[QUOTE="Kid-Atari"][QUOTE="red12355"]Over the PC? How can any reasonable person even claim that?ChubbyGuy40

Basic statistics. Read article.

Since when was specifically ignoring the PC platform and using account numbers for an optional app considered basic statistics? It's using account numbers, which is incredibly inaccurate. There are 600 million+ Facebook accounts, but that doesn't automatically mean PC is the largest platform. The 450 million + copies of Windows 7 sold prove that.

The raw sales figures alone put the iOS platform itself far beyond any dedicated gaming. "Even with a small percentage of iOS users actively gaming, as measured by Game Center (dedicated gamers), it's still bigger than most any major console." "Asymco says that at its current growth rate, Game Center users could likely exceed the 150 million mark by September. They could break the 200 million mark by year's end. No other dedicated gaming platform has reached sales of 200 million units. Android gaming? Laughable. No dedicated online gaming network. Being able to seamlessly play online games or even WiFi and bluetooth games across different brands of devices: hardly.
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The raw sales figures alone put the iOS platform itself far beyond any dedicated gaming. "Even with a small percentage of iOS users actively gaming, as measured by Game Center (dedicated gamers), it's still bigger than most any major console." "Asymco says that at its current growth rate, Game Center users could likely exceed the 150 million mark by September. They could break the 200 million mark by year's end. No other dedicated gaming platform has reached sales of 200 million units. Android gaming? Laughable. No dedicated online gaming network. Being able to seamlessly play online games or even WiFi and bluetooth games across different brands of devices: hardly.Kid-Atari

iOS is not a dedicated gaming device, so why only compare it to the dedicated gaming devices? What and where are these Game Center numbers showing iOS's active gamers? Amount of registered accounts equates to a number of platforms sold? Are they not aware you can make multiple accounts? They're purposefully ignoring the larger platforms to try and make iOS look better. No matter how you look at it, you cannot compare amount of accounts registered of a non-dedicated device to the sales of dedicated devices. Also it says right in the article's headline that it "suggests." It also says Android outsells iOS, so in raw numbers iOS loses to yet another platform.

Don't know why you're mentioning Android when I didn't bring it up. Mobile gaming is complete crap anyway so the lack of a centriaized network for gaming doesn't bother me in the least bit.

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[QUOTE="Kid-Atari"]The raw sales figures alone put the iOS platform itself far beyond any dedicated gaming. "Even with a small percentage of iOS users actively gaming, as measured by Game Center (dedicated gamers), it's still bigger than most any major console." "Asymco says that at its current growth rate, Game Center users could likely exceed the 150 million mark by September. They could break the 200 million mark by year's end. No other dedicated gaming platform has reached sales of 200 million units. Android gaming? Laughable. No dedicated online gaming network. Being able to seamlessly play online games or even WiFi and bluetooth games across different brands of devices: hardly.ChubbyGuy40

iOS is not a dedicated gaming device, so why only compare it to the dedicated gaming devices? What and where are these Game Center numbers showing iOS's active gamers? Amount of registered accounts equates to a number of platforms sold? Are they not aware you can make multiple accounts? They're purposefully ignoring the larger platforms to try and make iOS look better. No matter how you look at it, you cannot compare amount of accounts registered of a non-dedicated device to the sales of dedicated devices. Also it says right in the article's headline that it "suggests." It also says Android outsells iOS, so in raw numbers iOS loses to yet another platform.

Don't know why you're mentioning Android when I didn't bring it up. Mobile gaming is complete crap anyway so the lack of a centriaized network for gaming doesn't bother me in the least bit.

The GameCenter account statistics are in the arse technica article. GameCenter accounts does NOT equate to iOS devices sold. Users have a choice of activating their GameCenter account by registering with their iOS account information. This is how they are able to measure the number of dedicated gamers versus the number of plain iOS users. Once you activate your gamecenter account, your gamecenter ID is linked to your iOS account. Multiple accounts aren't possible. There are hundreds of thousands of iOS users that haven't created a GameCenter account. This is the measuring stick employed to compare iOS to other platforms. Dedicated gamers with active GameCenter accounts. I sure didnt think my gameboy, gamegear, DSLite an PSP were complete crap. In this regard, iOS completely trumps any of those past platforms I used to game with.
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Gamecenter comes pre-installed and most people are curios to see what it is. It's laughable what measures you guys take to make iOS look better. My father made a gamecenter account, never actually played a game go figure. :roll:

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GameCenter account numbers. Not iOS account numbers. Just like not all 600 millionKid-Atari
And going by gamecenter account numbers iOS is 3rd. Try again?

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Gamecenter comes pre-installed and most people are curios to see what it is. It's laughable what measures you guys take to make iOS look better. My father made a gamecenter account, never actually played a game go figure. :roll:

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Of COURSE gamecenter comes preinstalled. Would it make sense if Xbox made you install Xbox Live? Or if PS3 made you install PSN? The account creation process isn't automatic for Game Center. People are prompted to create an account when attempting to play an online game or a game that requires Game Center to keep score. Are you sure your "grandfather" :lol: wasn't playing a game? It's equally laughable how "you guys" try to downplay the growing success iOS continues to enjoy despite the fact the entire gaming industry recognizes & acknowledges it. It's really something when a well-lauded source such as Arse Technica and Business Wire chimes in with the same sentiment.
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The game industry recognizing mobile gaming is like a luxury restaurant recognizing that McDonald's exists. Come back please when mobile gaming is half as much fun as real gaming, nobody cares what noobs think.

Facebook is the most popular gaming platform of all time so you cant even win the pure numbers game.

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Android is even getting it's own game console, you can live in denial all you want. ;)

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The GameCenter account statistics are in the arse technica article. GameCenter accounts does NOT equate to iOS devices sold. Users have a choice of activating their GameCenter account by registering with their iOS account information. This is how they are able to measure the number of dedicated gamers versus the number of plain iOS users. Once you activate your gamecenter account, your gamecenter ID is linked to your iOS account. Multiple accounts aren't possible. There are hundreds of thousands of iOS users that haven't created a GameCenter account.

This is the measuring stick employed to compare iOS to other platforms. Dedicated gamers with active GameCenter accounts. I sure didnt think my gameboy, gamegear, DSLite an PSP were complete crap. In this regard, iOS completely trumps any of those past platforms I used to game with.Kid-Atari

No they are not. I specifically asked for their numbers on active gamers, which is not present in the Ars Technica article or their source. Registering an account does not make you a dedicated gamer. You can make multiple Apple IDs and link them to Game Center.

Yet it's comparing it to dedicated gaming platforms when it isn't one. It's an very poorly written article and your headline is extremely misleading (Ars Technica did not state that anywhere at all.) It's not using dedicated or active gamers for it's numbers. It's only using number of accounts registered as a proxy, and they don't even state their reasons for why it can be considered comparible to console platforms.

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There is no way it beats pc in numbers. how many people have played solitaire or minesweeper or java games on pc?
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There is no way it beats pc in numbers. how many people have played solitaire or minesweeper or java games on pc?mystic_knight
The "PC" is not a "Gaming Platform", Xbox Live for Windows is a gaming platform (in the sense that Arstechnica is doing their math). It's not about how many game devices are available, it's how many interact in the same way on a dedicated network.
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[QUOTE="mystic_knight"]There is no way it beats pc in numbers. how many people have played solitaire or minesweeper or java games on pc?musicalmac
The "PC" is not a "Gaming Platform", Xbox Live for Windows is a gaming platform (in the sense that Arstechnica is doing their math). It's not about how many game devices are available, it's how many interact in the same way on a dedicated network.

PC is as much a "gaming platform" as iOS. :|

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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="mystic_knight"]There is no way it beats pc in numbers. how many people have played solitaire or minesweeper or java games on pc?Gambler_3

The "PC" is not a "Gaming Platform", Xbox Live for Windows is a gaming platform (in the sense that Arstechnica is doing their math). It's not about how many game devices are available, it's how many interact in the same way on a dedicated network.

PC is as much a "gaming platform" as iOS. :|

If you collectively add the number of blizzard and steam accounts (the proper comparison between XBL, PSN and GameCenter and Nintendo Online), it still falls far behind the sheer number of dedicated online gamers on GameCenter. This is the stick Arse Technica is using to measure a "platform."
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="musicalmac"] The "PC" is not a "Gaming Platform", Xbox Live for Windows is a gaming platform (in the sense that Arstechnica is doing their math). It's not about how many game devices are available, it's how many interact in the same way on a dedicated network.Kid-Atari

PC is as much a "gaming platform" as iOS. :|

If you collectively add the number of blizzard and steam accounts (the proper comparison between XBL, PSN and GameCenter and Nintendo Online), it still falls far behind the sheer number of dedicated online gamers on GameCenter. This is the stick Arse Technica is using to measure a "platform."

You dont need some "account" to game....

You really think "gamecenter" is in the same league as steam, XBL and PSN? :lol:

We are talking about a dedicated to gaming software on PC and then we are talking about deidcated to games consoles. And then we are talking about an app that comes pre-installed in one of the most popular "smartphones" whose main purpose is......you know to be a "smartphone". :roll:

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[QUOTE="mystic_knight"]There is no way it beats pc in numbers. how many people have played solitaire or minesweeper or java games on pc?musicalmac
The "PC" is not a "Gaming Platform", Xbox Live for Windows is a gaming platform (in the sense that Arstechnica is doing their math). It's not about how many game devices are available, it's how many interact in the same way on a dedicated network.

Ohhh i see. [QUOTE="Kid-Atari"] If you collectively add the number of blizzard and steam accounts (the proper comparison between XBL, PSN and GameCenter and Nintendo Online), it still falls far behind the sheer number of dedicated online gamers on GameCenter. This is the stick Arse Technica is using to measure a "platform."

What about if add GFWL,UPlay and origin to the equation?
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The "PC" is not a "Gaming Platform", Xbox Live for Windows is a gaming platform (in the sense that Arstechnica is doing their math). It's not about how many game devices are available, it's how many interact in the same way on a dedicated network.musicalmac

That is not how they're doing this. "Apple's iOS platform..." That's no different than saying Microsoft's Windows platform, or Google's Android platform, both of which have more numbers than Apple's iOS platform. They're saying iOS COULD be the most popular platform, not Game Center.

There isn't a proper metric to judge each platform by, and that's the exact issue. Again, if we're going by account numbers, then things like Windows Live and Facebook win.

If you collectively add the number of blizzard and steam accounts (the proper comparison between XBL, PSN and GameCenter and Nintendo Online), it still falls far behind the sheer number of dedicated online gamers on GameCenter. This is the stick Arse Technica is using to measure a "platform."Kid-Atari

That comparison is incredibly flawed. Dedicated would also mean active. No where in that article or anywhere else does it state the number of active users. Why do you keep saying the numbers for it are there when they clearly aren't?

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[quote="ArsTechnica"] Apple has sold over 400 million total iOS devices, which beats the combined sales of all current-generation consoles as well as combined sales of portable gaming platforms. As our own Senior Gaming Editor Kyle Orland noted, "Even with a small percentage of iOS users actively gaming, as measured by Game Center, it's still bigger than most any major console." Asymco says that at its current growth rate, Game Center users could likely exceed the 150 million mark by September. They could break the 200 million mark by year's end. No other dedicated gaming platform has reached sales of 200 million units.



Why are people struggling so much with this? Reality is stranger than fiction.

[quote="ArsTechnica"] iOS isn't the only general purpose platform for gaming, though. PCs still outsell iOS devices, but the latest research suggests that gamers account for a much smaller percentage of overall PC users compared to iOS users, totaling about 54 million users worldwide. (As a side note, Valve counts 40 million users of its Steam game distribution platform.) And the Entertainment Software Association's latest data suggests that newer generations of gamers tend to use mobile devices like smartphones and tablets over PCs and consoles. Android also outsells iOS overall, though developers have suggested the market for games is nowhere near as successful as iOS. One popular game reportedly made nearly 20 times the sales on iOS as on Android.



It's all there.
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iOS is NOT a dedicated gaming platform, need I remind how many android devices are sold in total? :lol:

I am sure when I would you are gonna resort to talking about apple profits. :lol:

You guys are hypocrites you bring in raw numbers when comparing with PC and console and forget about the "quality" argument and yet when you talk about android thats all you have to talk about.

Where in that article do they give android or facebook numbers? They dont? It's a **** article then plan and simple.

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Why are people struggling so much with this? Reality is stranger than fiction.

It's all there. musicalmac

Why are you struggling so much to understand that accounts are not dedicated or active users? It's not even remotely difficult to comprehend. Now Game Center is on Mac, and they'll never reveal how many are on each platform.

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Why are you struggling so much to understand that accounts are not dedicated or active users? It's not even remotely difficult to comprehend. Now Game Center is on Mac, and they'll never reveal how many are on each platform.

ChubbyGuy40
So you've based your point on the fact that we can't prove how many of those users are active, but then you complain that we won't ever be given exact figures on the number of GameCenter accounts as if you would find that information useful...



...My advice is to be careful who's intelligence you decide to question when it takes you two sentences and a misplaced insult to contradict yourself, because that's pretty bad.
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iOS is NOT a dedicated gaming platform, need I remind how many android devices are sold in total? :lol:

I am sure when I would you are gonna resort to talking about apple profits. :lol:

You guys are hypocrites you bring in raw numbers when comparing with PC and console and forget about the "quality" argument and yet when you talk about android thats all you have to talk about.

Where in that article do they give android or facebook numbers? They dont? It's a **** article then plan and simple.

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*see arse technica article
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So you've based your point on the fact that we can't prove how many of those users are activemusicalmac

And since this and other much needed data is not available, you cannot make the claim that iOS is the biggest gaming platform.

but then you complain that we won't ever be given exact figures on the number of GameCenter accounts as if you would find that information useful...
musicalmac

When Apple presents the info for the amount of Game Center, they're going to say just the total number and not how many there are on each platform, and no one is going to care because they'll take it at face value and won't think twice. When Windows 8 comes out, are we gonna sing to the high heavens that Windows/Xbox Live is now officially the biggest gaming platform because Live is being stuffed down their throat for the MS Store and we now have solid numbers for that? Hell no, because we aren't that stupid to believe every account holder actually plays or registered to play games.

My point is that this article is bollocks and says nothing but that Game Center has a lot of accounts. Hell their source said nothing about iOS being the largest gaming platform either. I do feel the need to continue to point out some points though.

-First off, Game Center is not a platform. It is a service. Even Apple describes it as such. iOS is a platform, which includes iPod, iPhone, and iPad. Xbox Live is not a platform, but a service. A service linked to Windows Live.

-Secondly, again, it's basing this off accounts. Furthermore, it's comparing the account numbers of Game Center against actual hardware sales of the DS. Something you can make absolutely free of charge and register multiple times cannot possibly correlate to hardware sales of another platform.

-Third, Horace intentionally left out the home computer (which leaves out the largest, Windows,) because he claimed there were "missing" reported figures. How did he manage to miss 800 million accounts from Facebook, which does the exact, same thing Game Center does? The more accurate reason would be because there's simply too many damn services to track for such a huge and diverse userbase, and not all of the numbers are given to the public.

-Lastly, this is a damn Infinite Loop article. It's specifically designed to make Apple sound good. Where's their section dedicated for Android or other platforms? One commentor said it correctly. "In short, it's a terrible article based on a critically flawed premise presented in a blatantly biased and misleading manner. It's more regurgitated ad copy than article, and that's what has people upset."

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I'm with chubbyguy here. Honestly PC is definitely the biggest platform, even with the software counters calculated. It doesnt take into consideration all those games that are hosted on websites such bigfish etc. Game center = 200 million units. windows = billions, lets say 30% game on pc's >200 million.
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I'm with chubbyguy here. Honestly PC is definitely the biggest platform, even with the software counters calculated. It doesnt take into consideration all those games that are hosted on websites such bigfish etc. Game center = 200 million units. windows = billions, lets say 30% game on pc's >200 million.mystic_knight

You mean Windows, not PC since damn near anything is considered PC these days. :P

The fact is that there's far too many variables for Windows to count the active player/user base, both in software and operating system. That doesn't mean you get to exclude it and pretend that it doesn't count at all.

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#35 mystic_knight
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[QUOTE="mystic_knight"]I'm with chubbyguy here. Honestly PC is definitely the biggest platform, even with the software counters calculated. It doesnt take into consideration all those games that are hosted on websites such bigfish etc. Game center = 200 million units. windows = billions, lets say 30% game on pc's >200 million.ChubbyGuy40

You mean Windows, not PC since damn near anything is considered PC these days. :P

The fact is that there's far too many variables for Windows to count the active player/user base, both in software and operating system. That doesn't mean you get to exclude it and pretend that it doesn't count at all.

I said pc then changed it to windows further down, i get confused with my own writing lol.
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#36 Gambler_3
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I think the biggest gaming platform should be the one with the most number of hours played because only that shows dedication. No doubt far too many people are playing games on their smartphones and facebook these days but the quality of gaming is not even comparable to dedicated platforms and if we could have "hours played" statistics that would become quite clear!!!

Another hugely important point is that mobile gaming is extremely cheap and facebook gaming is free so it really doesnt matter if these 2 platforms are the most popular. It's just like literally saying a cheaper brand of chocolates is more popular than a more expensive one, seriously how can we even compare this?

And it's not like console/PC gaming is a ripoff, the production values are so clearly superior to mobile games it's not an argument.