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#1 deactivated-5fc147aeeb0aa
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My source is Adam Schefter's facebook. Yay or nay?

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This might be his worst idea yet.
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I am officially sick of goodell. Another completely ridiculous idea.

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Crap, just like the NBA. NFL playoffs are perfect.
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This is an awful idea. I'd say the NFL has the most perfectly balanced playoff system out of the 4 major sports leagues. Not exclusive enough for it to be the same old teams over and over again, but not inclusive enough to make a division title worthless.

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lmfao, this guy is an idiot. Just cares about $$$$$$$
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#7 No_Hablo_Ingles
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Crap, just like the NBA. NFL playoffs are perfect. Master_Live
This, although I like baseballs playoffs now more with the 1 game playoff for wildcard.
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What is up with this guy? :lol:
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[QUOTE="Master_Live"]Crap, just like the NBA. NFL playoffs are perfect. No_Hablo_Ingles
I like baseballs playoffs now more with the 1 game playoff for wildcard.

That sh*t is even more of a fckn joke than Goodells idea :lol: How does a team that finishes 6 games behind the wild card leader deserve a 1 game playoff? I can see if both teams are within 1 or 2 games, but any more than that is ridiculous. You're a dumbass if you like that or think it's even fair. Money grab as always.

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This is an awful idea. I'd say the NFL has the most perfectly balanced playoff system out of the 4 major sports leagues. Not exclusive enough for it to be the same old teams over and over again, but not inclusive enough to make a division title worthless.

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Explain why the Wild card team always win? That is a some what flawed system
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#11 -Halftime-
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The NFL has a perfect number of teams make it, but any system that is a one game elimination will never be perfect.
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[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="Master_Live"]Crap, just like the NBA. NFL playoffs are perfect. 36Ounces

I like baseballs playoffs now more with the 1 game playoff for wildcard.

That sh*t is even more of a fckn joke than Goodells idea :lol: How does a team that finishes 6 games behind the wild card leader deserve a 1 game playoff? I can see if both teams are within 1 or 2 games, but any more than that is ridiculous. You're a dumbass if you like that or think it's even fair. Money grab as always.

I think it will be fixed next year. But it was dumbed how the Rangers only played one game depsite having better records than the Tigers. The reason why people hate NBA Playoffs because of the 1st round does drag on. 1st round should go back to best of 5. They should also play more back to back games. As far as Goodell proposal, I can see it becuase it would get rid of the 1st round byes.
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Goodell is either a dumbass that wants to kill the game or a skillful troll.

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The NFL has a perfect number of teams make it, but any system that is a one game elimination will never be perfect.-Halftime-
But alot times the most qualified teams dont make it. The 2010 NY GiantBuccs too) had a 10-6 record but missed the playoffs. 2011 the Giants had a 9-7 record and won the whole thing.
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#16 No_Hablo_Ingles
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[QUOTE="36Ounces"That sh*t is even more of a fckn joke than Goodells idea :lol: How does a team that finishes 6 games behind the wild card leader deserve a 1 game playoff? I can see if both teams are within 1 or 2 games, but any more than that is ridiculous. You're a dumbass if you like that or think it's even fair. Money grab as always.

I didn't say it was fair, I said I like baseball's playoffs more now. Previously, there was no difference between being the 1 seed and being the wild card. Now teams have a reason to not be one of the wild card teams, and win their division- To not have a 1 game playoff. The last month of baseball was more interesting and open with 2 WC teams.
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Goodell=Waste
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I say we get rid of wild cards all together. Let only division winners take part in it. Elite football only. Not some BS 9-7 team getting hot while they had a mediocre year. Yeah I said it Giants fans.

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I say we get rid of wild cards all together. Let only division winners take part in it. Elite football only. Not some BS 9-7 team getting hot while they had a mediocre year. Yeah I said it Giants fans.

Put_in_Kitna
Thats why I laugh when people always dissed the NBA regular season but usally the best teams always win while in NFL/MLB its all about the last month of the season. I like the NFL wild card games though. adding more teams will get rid of the the 1st round bye week
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I say we get rid of wild cards all together. Let only division winners take part in it. Elite football only. Not some BS 9-7 team getting hot while they had a mediocre year. Yeah I said it Giants fans.

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Not a bad idea at all. I like it. I dislike the "get hot in december and win the Super Bowl" stuff. But like I said, 1 game playoffs will always be exciting yet imperfect for that reason.
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#21 PSP107
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[QUOTE="-Halftime-"][QUOTE="Put_in_Kitna"]

I say we get rid of wild cards all together. Let only division winners take part in it. Elite football only. Not some BS 9-7 team getting hot while they had a mediocre year. Yeah I said it Giants fans.

Not a bad idea at all. I like it. I dislike the "get hot in december and win the Super Bowl" stuff. But like I said, 1 game playoffs will always be exciting yet imperfect for that reason.

some Im guessing you hate March Madness?
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[QUOTE="-Halftime-"][QUOTE="Put_in_Kitna"]

I say we get rid of wild cards all together. Let only division winners take part in it. Elite football only. Not some BS 9-7 team getting hot while they had a mediocre year. Yeah I said it Giants fans.

PSP107

Not a bad idea at all. I like it. I dislike the "get hot in december and win the Super Bowl" stuff. But like I said, 1 game playoffs will always be exciting yet imperfect for that reason.

some Im guessing you hate March Madness?

That is a 64 team bracket. Way different.

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[QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="-Halftime-"][QUOTE="Put_in_Kitna"]

I say we get rid of wild cards all together. Let only division winners take part in it. Elite football only. Not some BS 9-7 team getting hot while they had a mediocre year. Yeah I said it Giants fans.

Not a bad idea at all. I like it. I dislike the "get hot in december and win the Super Bowl" stuff. But like I said, 1 game playoffs will always be exciting yet imperfect for that reason.

some Im guessing you hate March Madness?

I like it. It's really exciting. But 9/10 times, the best team doesn't win it. Last year was an exception. My point being about one game playoffs, it's exciting and makes for great viewing, but I like how in a 7 game series, the better team always wins, always, except if there's an injury. Thats why it's imperfect. Imagine if the NBA Finals was over after one game? Could you be confident to say that the best team won? You can't actually know after one game, That's how it is in College b ball and stuff. It's the best format for football cus there's no other conceivable way to do it.
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#24 PSP107
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[QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="-Halftime-"] Not a bad idea at all. I like it. I dislike the "get hot in december and win the Super Bowl" stuff. But like I said, 1 game playoffs will always be exciting yet imperfect for that reason.Put_in_Kitna

some Im guessing you hate March Madness?

That is a 64 team bracket. Way different.

how many upsets happen in college ball during that 64(65) bracket?
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[QUOTE="Put_in_Kitna"]

[QUOTE="PSP107"] some Im guessing you hate March Madness?PSP107

That is a 64 team bracket. Way different.

how many upsets happen in college ball during that 64(65) bracket?

When you have 64 teams there is bound to be upsets brah. We are also talking about 18-19 year old kids.

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#26 PSP107
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[QUOTE="Put_in_Kitna"]

[QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="Put_in_Kitna"]

That is a 64 team bracket. Way different.

how many upsets happen in college ball during that 64(65) bracket?

When you have 64 teams there is bound to be upsets brah. We are also talking about 18-19 year old kids.

who have good regular seasons
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[QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="-Halftime-"] Not a bad idea at all. I like it. I dislike the "get hot in december and win the Super Bowl" stuff. But like I said, 1 game playoffs will always be exciting yet imperfect for that reason.-Halftime-
some Im guessing you hate March Madness?

I like it. It's really exciting. But 9/10 times, the best team doesn't win it. Last year was an exception. My point being about one game playoffs, it's exciting and makes for great viewing, but I like how in a 7 game series, the better team always wins, always, except if there's an injury. Thats why it's imperfect. Imagine if the NBA Finals was over after one game? Could you be confident to say that the best team won? You can't actually know after one game, That's how it is in College b ball and stuff. It's the best format for football cus there's no other conceivable way to do it.

I don't think sports leagues are about the best team winning, I think it's about who can step up and play the best during crunch time. That's why I like single game elimination opposed to a seven game series.
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[QUOTE="-Halftime-"][QUOTE="PSP107"] some Im guessing you hate March Madness?monkeytoes61
I like it. It's really exciting. But 9/10 times, the best team doesn't win it. Last year was an exception. My point being about one game playoffs, it's exciting and makes for great viewing, but I like how in a 7 game series, the better team always wins, always, except if there's an injury. Thats why it's imperfect. Imagine if the NBA Finals was over after one game? Could you be confident to say that the best team won? You can't actually know after one game, That's how it is in College b ball and stuff. It's the best format for football cus there's no other conceivable way to do it.

I don't think sports leagues are about the best team winning, I think it's about who can step up and play the best during crunch time. That's why I like single game elimination opposed to a seven game series.

Says the 7-9 guy.

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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"][QUOTE="-Halftime-"] I like it. It's really exciting. But 9/10 times, the best team doesn't win it. Last year was an exception. My point being about one game playoffs, it's exciting and makes for great viewing, but I like how in a 7 game series, the better team always wins, always, except if there's an injury. Thats why it's imperfect. Imagine if the NBA Finals was over after one game? Could you be confident to say that the best team won? You can't actually know after one game, That's how it is in College b ball and stuff. It's the best format for football cus there's no other conceivable way to do it.Put_in_Kitna

I don't think sports leagues are about the best team winning, I think it's about who can step up and play the best during crunch time. That's why I like single game elimination opposed to a seven game series.

Says the 7-9 guy.

Because nine out of ten times, we lose to the Saints, haha.
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#30 Master_Live
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How does a team that finishes 6 games behind the wild card leader deserve a 1 game playoff?

36Ounces

Well, how is that a team which doesn't win their division deserve to play in the playoffs?
[QUOTE="NightStalkerBX"]

This is an awful idea. I'd say the NFL has the most perfectly balanced playoff system out of the 4 major sports leagues. Not exclusive enough for it to be the same old teams over and over again, but not inclusive enough to make a division title worthless.

PSP107

Explain why the Wild card team always win? That is a some what flawed system

So it is flawed if your expectations aren't fulfilled?

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[QUOTE="Master_Live"]

[QUOTE="36Ounces"] Well, how is that a team which doesn't win their division deserve to play in the playoffs? [QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="NightStalkerBX"]

This is an awful idea. I'd say the NFL has the most perfectly balanced playoff system out of the 4 major sports leagues. Not exclusive enough for it to be the same old teams over and over again, but not inclusive enough to make a division title worthless.

Explain why the Wild card team always win? That is a some what flawed system

So it is flawed if your expectations aren't fulfilled?

lol, Division winning is overated in sports because most team benefit from playing in a weaker division. and as far as your comment towards me goes, all im saying it seems like that the playoffs is more set up for the wild card team to win. What if the 7-9 SeaHawks had one the Super Bowl?
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Goodell and Bettman. Between the two I don't know which one's worse and they both need to end up shipwrecked on a deserted island or something.
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#33 No_Hablo_Ingles
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[QUOTE="Put_in_Kitna"]

I say we get rid of wild cards all together. Let only division winners take part in it. Elite football only. Not some BS 9-7 team getting hot while they had a mediocre year. Yeah I said it Giants fans.

-Halftime-
Not a bad idea at all. I like it. I dislike the "get hot in december and win the Super Bowl" stuff. But like I said, 1 game playoffs will always be exciting yet imperfect for that reason.

That doesn't change the last SB.... The Giants won our division last year.
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"Les make it like NBA homie" Absolutely great idea!! The Jets would be in the playoffs right now with 16 teams..........The Jets!!
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[QUOTE="36Ounces"]

How does a team that finishes 6 games behind the wild card leader deserve a 1 game playoff?

Master_Live

Well, how is that a team which doesn't win their division deserve to play in the playoffs?

I like havin the wild card. Can see why some don't like it, but it makes things more exciting toward the end of the year. And if you're the better team, you should win a best of 5 series. No way in hell there should be a 1 game playoff for the wild card though. That's unless two teams are tied, or within 1 or maybe 2 games of each other.

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I like havin the wild card. Can see why some don't like it, but it makes things more exciting toward the end of the year. And if you're the better team, you should win a best of 5 series. No way in hell there should be a 1 game playoff for the wild card though. That's unless two teams are tied, or within 1 or maybe 2 games of each other.

36Ounces

The only thing that I like about the new format is that teams are scare as hell of playing on the Play in Game that they try really hard to win their division. But I agree that a baseball season shouldn't come down to one game.

The problem with the old format was that the only penalties for being the Wild Card was not getting home field for the Division Series/Championship Series(even though they could get home field for the WS:|) and playing the #1 seed on the first and they could even avoid that is the #1 seed was from their own division. They didn't suffer enough.

Which is why I would go with 2 divisions per league, with top two teams getting in. More fighting for that top two spot by more teams, plus expanding the 1st round to 7 games so weak second place teams get exposed faster.

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"Les make it like NBA homie" Absolutely great idea!! The Jets would be in the playoffs right now with 16 teams..........The Jets!!X360PS3AMD05
I was coming here to say this, along with the fact that the Browns, Bills, Dolphins, and Chargers would just be a single game out. Now one may argue the fact that more teams would be competing for the final few playoff spots to be a good thing, but i'd disagree and say for the for the most part the general high-quality of NFL teams who make the playoffs is what makes the NFL's playoff race the most intriguing (along with baseball). We've seen the Giants (07), we've seen the Steelers (05), we've seen the Packers (10') all come out of 5th or 6th seeds that were clinched within the final week or two go on to make runs at the Super Bowl title in the past 7 years, while we've very rarely seen the same from NBA or NHL 7th and 8th seeds.

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Hell no.
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Goodell and Bettman. Between the two I don't know which one's worse and they both need to end up shipwrecked on a deserted island or something.cell_dweller
Bettman because the guy has had 3 lockouts under him as league commissioner.
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I say we get rid of wild cards all together. Let only division winners take part in it. Elite football only. Not some BS 9-7 team getting hot while they had a mediocre year. Yeah I said it Giants fans.

Put_in_Kitna

It's better than a 7-9 team winning their awful division and going to the playoff. There goes your "elite football only." Neither system is perfect.

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People keep hanging on the 7-9 Seahawks team. Guys, that was an exception, so stop it.
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People keep hanging on the 7-9 Seahawks team. Guys, that was an exception, so stop it. Master_Live
Stop what? Proving him that undeserving teams can get into the playoffs even if only division winners are allowed? That's a perfect example and completely fits what I'm trying to say, that even a division winner only playoff system has its drawbacks.

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[QUOTE="Master_Live"]People keep hanging on the 7-9 Seahawks team. Guys, that was an exception, so stop it. Toxic-Seahorse

Stop what? Proving him that undeserving teams can get into the playoffs even if only division winners are allowed? That's a perfect example and completely fits what I'm trying to say, that even a division winner only playoff system has its drawbacks.

I'm not a fan of division winners only, but the Seahawks were an exception of having an awful regular season team in the playoffs. A full 16 team slate would almost guarantee 8-8 and 7-9 teams in the playoffs almost every year.

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[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"]

[QUOTE="Master_Live"]People keep hanging on the 7-9 Seahawks team. Guys, that was an exception, so stop it. Boston_Boyy

Stop what? Proving him that undeserving teams can get into the playoffs even if only division winners are allowed? That's a perfect example and completely fits what I'm trying to say, that even a division winner only playoff system has its drawbacks.

I'm not a fan of division winners only, but the Seahawks were an exception of having an awful regular season team in the playoffs. A full 16 team slate would almost guarantee 8-8 and 7-9 teams in the playoffs almost every year.

Yeah, but I wasn't supporting a 16 team playoff either.
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[QUOTE="Put_in_Kitna"]

I say we get rid of wild cards all together. Let only division winners take part in it. Elite football only. Not some BS 9-7 team getting hot while they had a mediocre year. Yeah I said it Giants fans.

Toxic-Seahorse

It's better than a 7-9 team winning their awful division and going to the playoff. There goes your "elite football only." Neither system is perfect.

I wasn't completely serious. I mean it sounds nice but I like it the way it is now to be honest. Eitherr way that year was a fluke, also LOL at the Saints for getting destroyed.

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Goodell is an idiot.
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#47 Chutebox  Online
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[QUOTE="Master_Live"]People keep hanging on the 7-9 Seahawks team. Guys, that was an exception, so stop it. Toxic-Seahorse

Stop what? Proving him that undeserving teams can get into the playoffs even if only division winners are allowed? That's a perfect example and completely fits what I'm trying to say, that even a division winner only playoff system has its drawbacks.

Heh, no system will be perfect. But the one the NFL has now is the closest thing to perfect.
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Not too sure why so many people want to see people die at an early age but ehhh, ok.....

First of all if you're against this change you haven't watched an NFL game since the 70's when they started expanding the playoff formula so if you have a problem with expanding the playoffs you can kindly shut your mouth, you haven't watched a game in over 4 decades.

What we're seeing is that the NFL season for the most part is a sprint, a three game losing streak destroys your entire season. There's such a need to get players back on the field faster that it significantly impacts their lives while playing and when they're out of football. We're just starting to see the effects of playing professional football in the modern age.

Now there's been talks to extend the season but that doesn't do anything, you're still in that sprint and the players are still going to be rushed back in order to claim a playoff spot.

On the other hand if you increase the number of spots in the postseason you allow teams to rest an injured player, go on that three game losing streak, and still get into the playoffs.

The only reason a player is rushed back is to secure a playoff spot. If that problem is eliminated then instances of rushing a player back onto the field decrease.

Anyone who says this hurts the product or somehow decreases the importance of the regular season doesn't know the sport.

There's always going to be teams that will shoot for the top spot and host the playoffs, there's always going to be that mission for teams.

On the other hand if your star QB or linebacker has a concussion they can stay out until they're completely healthy and your team can still win a championship.

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Not too sure why so many people want to see people die at an early age but ehhh, ok.....

First of all if you're against this change you haven't watched an NFL game since the 70's when they started expanding the playoff formula so if you have a problem with expanding the playoffs you can kindly shut your mouth, you haven't watched a game in over 4 decades.

What we're seeing is that the NFL season for the most part is a sprint, a three game losing streak destroys your entire season. There's such a need to get players back on the field faster that it significantly impacts their lives while playing and when they're out of football. We're just starting to see the effects of playing professional football in the modern age.

Now there's been talks to extend the season but that doesn't do anything, you're still in that sprint and the players are still going to be rushed back in order to claim a playoff spot.

On the other hand if you increase the number of spots in the postseason you allow teams to rest an injured player, go on that three game losing streak, and still get into the playoffs.

The only reason a player is rushed back is to secure a playoff spot. If that problem is eliminated then instances of rushing a player back onto the field decrease.

Anyone who says this hurts the product or somehow decreases the importance of the regular season doesn't know the sport.

There's always going to be teams that will shoot for the top spot and host the playoffs, there's always going to be that mission for teams.

On the other hand if your star QB or linebacker has a concussion they can stay out until they're completely healthy and your team can still win a championship.

Jaysonguy

I congratulate you. Only you, Mex, and that philly/NY knicks fan are able to post so much stupid in a single post. Truly commendable.

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#50 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Not too sure why so many people want to see people die at an early age but ehhh, ok.....

First of all if you're against this change you haven't watched an NFL game since the 70's when they started expanding the playoff formula so if you have a problem with expanding the playoffs you can kindly shut your mouth, you haven't watched a game in over 4 decades.

What we're seeing is that the NFL season for the most part is a sprint, a three game losing streak destroys your entire season. There's such a need to get players back on the field faster that it significantly impacts their lives while playing and when they're out of football. We're just starting to see the effects of playing professional football in the modern age.

Now there's been talks to extend the season but that doesn't do anything, you're still in that sprint and the players are still going to be rushed back in order to claim a playoff spot.

On the other hand if you increase the number of spots in the postseason you allow teams to rest an injured player, go on that three game losing streak, and still get into the playoffs.

The only reason a player is rushed back is to secure a playoff spot. If that problem is eliminated then instances of rushing a player back onto the field decrease.

Anyone who says this hurts the product or somehow decreases the importance of the regular season doesn't know the sport.

There's always going to be teams that will shoot for the top spot and host the playoffs, there's always going to be that mission for teams.

On the other hand if your star QB or linebacker has a concussion they can stay out until they're completely healthy and your team can still win a championship.

Chutebox

I congratulate you. Only you, Mex, and that philly/NY knicks fan are able to post so much stupid in a single post. Truly commendable.

I'm sorry you have a problem with facts

Also are you in the bunch that hasn't watched the NFL for the last 40+ years?