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#151 Posted by theone86 (20431 posts) -

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"] Oh stop. Gabbert has the same putrid completion percentage that Tebow does, without the 2:1 TD to INT ratio and rushing ability that Tebow has. I really don't want to get into a Tebow debate, but saying that Blaine Gabbert is a better quarterback is totally absurd. I've never seen a quarterback who is scared of the game like Gabbert, can't win with that.monkeytoes61

Any quarterback that knows how to step back into the pocket and throw is better than Tebow.  I don't know if there's ever been an NFL QB with a worse throwing motion.  I think I said before Tebow was traded that I would have loved to see him go to Jacksonville when everybody was speculating that was going to happen.  That still stands, I would love to see Tebow work with what's there in Jacksonville right now.

So Ryan Leaf and JaMarcus Russell were better quarterbacks?

You're now resorting to comparing Tebow to Leaf and Russell, I rest my case.

#152 Posted by The-Apostle (11914 posts) -

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"][QUOTE="theone86"]

Gabbert>Tebow.

theone86

Oh stop. Gabbert has the same putrid completion percentage that Tebow does, without the 2:1 TD to INT ratio and rushing ability that Tebow has. I really don't want to get into a Tebow debate, but saying that Blaine Gabbert is a better quarterback is totally absurd. I've never seen a quarterback who is scared of the game like Gabbert, can't win with that.

Any quarterback that knows how to step back into the pocket and throw is better than Tebow.  I don't know if there's ever been an NFL QB with a worse throwing motion.  I think I said before Tebow was traded that I would have loved to see him go to Jacksonville when everybody was speculating that was going to happen.  That still stands, I would love to see Tebow work with what's there in Jacksonville right now.

Tebow would start for the Jags because of his running ability alone. And since when did Gabbert ever have the ability to throw a football? They should be starting Henne. He at least has some playmaking ability.
#153 Posted by Chutebox (35677 posts) -

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"][QUOTE="theone86"]

Gabbert>Tebow.

theone86

Oh stop. Gabbert has the same putrid completion percentage that Tebow does, without the 2:1 TD to INT ratio and rushing ability that Tebow has. I really don't want to get into a Tebow debate, but saying that Blaine Gabbert is a better quarterback is totally absurd. I've never seen a quarterback who is scared of the game like Gabbert, can't win with that.

Any quarterback that knows how to step back into the pocket and throw is better than Tebow.  I don't know if there's ever been an NFL QB with a worse throwing motion.  I think I said before Tebow was traded that I would have loved to see him go to Jacksonville when everybody was speculating that was going to happen.  That still stands, I would love to see Tebow work with what's there in Jacksonville right now.

Phillip Rivers has just as bad throwing motion.
#154 Posted by yokofox33 (28401 posts) -

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"][QUOTE="theone86"]

Gabbert>Tebow.

theone86

Oh stop. Gabbert has the same putrid completion percentage that Tebow does, without the 2:1 TD to INT ratio and rushing ability that Tebow has. I really don't want to get into a Tebow debate, but saying that Blaine Gabbert is a better quarterback is totally absurd. I've never seen a quarterback who is scared of the game like Gabbert, can't win with that.

Any quarterback that knows how to step back into the pocket and throw is better than Tebow.  I don't know if there's ever been an NFL QB with a worse throwing motion.  I think I said before Tebow was traded that I would have loved to see him go to Jacksonville when everybody was speculating that was going to happen.  That still stands, I would love to see Tebow work with what's there in Jacksonville right now.

Problem is, Gabbert doesn't know how to throw the football. The man will throw 30 times in a game and have something like 120 yards passing. He's terrible. I mean I have to root for him because he's the only thing we have right now, but he sucks ass. I just hope he's not a total embarassment this year.

And my mission has been accomplished. I can't believe there have been more than 3 consecutive posts pertaining to the Jaguars :lol:

#155 Posted by Seabas989 (9648 posts) -

So why can't Tebow be a running back or full back again? You can still lead even in that position.

As to who iks better, at least Tebow doesn't throw INTs. He throws it to the ground. :P

#156 Posted by JML897 (33064 posts) -

So why can't Tebow be a running back or full back again? You can still lead even in that position.

Seabas989

It wouldn't hurt to try I guess but he's never really played running back. There's a big difference between "mobile QB" and "RB". He would have to learn a lot.

I know this isn't a perfectly even comparison but look at Devin Hester. His time at WR was mostly a failure because he never played WR before and he didn't know what the f*ck he was doing half the time. Tebow would have to learn how to run routes, how to pick up blocks, how to have good field vision/read his blockers, etc...all things he's never really done before.

All that and there's no guarantee that Tebow would be a particularly great running back even if he picked up on those things relatively quickly. I'd rather take my chances with a guy who has been a running back forever because it'd be less of a project.

#157 Posted by Seabas989 (9648 posts) -

[QUOTE="Seabas989"]

So why can't Tebow be a running back or full back again? You can still lead even in that position.

JML897

It wouldn't hurt to try I guess but he's never really played running back. There's a big difference between "mobile QB" and "RB". He would have to learn a lot.

I know this isn't a perfectly even comparison but look at Devin Hester. His time at WR was mostly a failure because he never played WR before and he didn't know what the f*ck he was doing half the time. Tebow would have to learn how to run routes, how to pick up blocks, how to have good field vision/read his blockers, etc...all things he's never really done before.

All that and there's no guarantee that Tebow would be a particularly great running back even if he picked up on those things relatively quickly. I'd rather take my chances with a guy who has been a running back forever because it'd be less of a project.

It's a better suggestion then people thinking he should be a TE.

#158 Posted by sherman-tank1 (8024 posts) -

So why can't Tebow be a running back or full back again? You can still lead even in that position.

As to who iks better, at least Tebow doesn't throw INTs. He throws it to the ground. :P

Seabas989

If Tebow wanted to be a RB he would be cut by the Pats. Don't think he wants that.

#159 Posted by monkeytoes61 (8291 posts) -

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"][QUOTE="theone86"]

Any quarterback that knows how to step back into the pocket and throw is better than Tebow.  I don't know if there's ever been an NFL QB with a worse throwing motion.  I think I said before Tebow was traded that I would have loved to see him go to Jacksonville when everybody was speculating that was going to happen.  That still stands, I would love to see Tebow work with what's there in Jacksonville right now.

theone86

So Ryan Leaf and JaMarcus Russell were better quarterbacks?

You're now resorting to comparing Tebow to Leaf and Russell, I rest my case.

I'm trying to understand where you are coming from, because I don't get it. It wasn't tongue in cheek, it was a serious question. I'm not comparing them, clearly I think Tebow is far superior to either of those guys.

#160 Posted by JML897 (33064 posts) -

Saying Tebow is better than those two is just saying "he's better than two of the biggest failures in NFL history". Congrats?

Edit: Oh wait, I see you were responding specifically to the "any QB who can step back in the pocket and throw is better" comment. Missed that the first time.

#161 Posted by CreatureRising (1530 posts) -

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"] So Ryan Leaf and JaMarcus Russell were better quarterbacks?monkeytoes61

You're now resorting to comparing Tebow to Leaf and Russell, I rest my case.

I'm trying to understand where you are coming from, because I don't get it. It wasn't tongue in cheek, it was a serious question. I'm not comparing them, clearly I think Tebow is far superior to either of those guys.

So he isn't the WORST ever?  Personally I feel he deserves a high five for that achievement.  

#162 Posted by mrmusicman247 (17545 posts) -
are you guys doing an NFL Pick 'Em?
#163 Posted by Swanogt19 (24159 posts) -
I think I set up a Pick'em last year via yahoo. Monkeytoes did fantasy for us here the last two years.
#164 Posted by starwarsjunky (24551 posts) -
dont know why, but i just find it so tough to care about football at all right now. not just cuz its preseason, either. i just dont care....=/
#165 Posted by Chutebox (35677 posts) -

dont know why, but i just find it so tough to care about football at all right now. not just cuz its preseason, either. i just dont care....=/starwarsjunky
You need to go check your estrogen levels, stat.

#166 Posted by starwarsjunky (24551 posts) -

[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"]dont know why, but i just find it so tough to care about football at all right now. not just cuz its preseason, either. i just dont care....=/Chutebox

You need to go check your estrogen levels, stat.

i love football, so i just don't get it. its just weird....
#167 Posted by Put_in_Kitna (2547 posts) -

dont know why, but i just find it so tough to care about football at all right now. not just cuz its preseason, either. i just dont care....=/starwarsjunky

Are you an Egal fan? Would make sense. 

#168 Posted by starwarsjunky (24551 posts) -

[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"]dont know why, but i just find it so tough to care about football at all right now. not just cuz its preseason, either. i just dont care....=/Put_in_Kitna

Are you an Egal fan? Would make sense. 

hell no lol
#169 Posted by Swanogt19 (24159 posts) -

[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"]dont know why, but i just find it so tough to care about football at all right now. not just cuz its preseason, either. i just dont care....=/Put_in_Kitna

Are you an Egal fan? Would make sense. 

:lol:
#170 Posted by Put_in_Kitna (2547 posts) -

Travis Johnson (some bust Texan) tries to talk shit about Romo. Instead gets gaped himself. 360 defend your boy here.

#171 Posted by DaBrainz (7486 posts) -
[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"] Oh stop. Gabbert has the same putrid completion percentage that Tebow does, without the 2:1 TD to INT ratio and rushing ability that Tebow has. I really don't want to get into a Tebow debate, but saying that Blaine Gabbert is a better quarterback is totally absurd. I've never seen a quarterback who is scared of the game like Gabbert, can't win with that.The-Apostle

Any quarterback that knows how to step back into the pocket and throw is better than Tebow.  I don't know if there's ever been an NFL QB with a worse throwing motion.  I think I said before Tebow was traded that I would have loved to see him go to Jacksonville when everybody was speculating that was going to happen.  That still stands, I would love to see Tebow work with what's there in Jacksonville right now.

Tebow would start for the Jags because of his running ability alone. And since when did Gabbert ever have the ability to throw a football? They should be starting Henne. He at least has some playmaking ability.

Denard>>Tebow at QB
#172 Posted by Bobbles (11678 posts) -

Travis Johnson (some bust Texan) tries to talk shit about Romo. Instead gets gaped himself. 360 defend your boy here.

Put_in_Kitna
:lol: What a moron.
#173 Posted by monkeytoes61 (8291 posts) -
I was working at McDonald's today and Richard Sherman came through my drive thru. Pretty sweet.
#174 Posted by sherman-tank1 (8024 posts) -

I was working at McDonald's today and Richard Sherman came through my drive thru. Pretty sweet.monkeytoes61
Did you tell him he shouldn't be eating at McDonalds?

#175 Posted by monkeytoes61 (8291 posts) -

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]I was working at McDonald's today and Richard Sherman came through my drive thru. Pretty sweet.sherman-tank1

Did you tell him he shouldn't be eating at McDonalds?

He can eat whatever the hell he wants, as long as he continues his play from last year, haha.
#176 Posted by The-Apostle (11914 posts) -

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="theone86"]

Any quarterback that knows how to step back into the pocket and throw is better than Tebow.  I don't know if there's ever been an NFL QB with a worse throwing motion.  I think I said before Tebow was traded that I would have loved to see him go to Jacksonville when everybody was speculating that was going to happen.  That still stands, I would love to see Tebow work with what's there in Jacksonville right now.

DaBrainz

Tebow would start for the Jags because of his running ability alone. And since when did Gabbert ever have the ability to throw a football? They should be starting Henne. He at least has some playmaking ability.

Denard>>Tebow at QB

You mean Denard Robinson?

EDIT: Wow... He does pretting much everything offense but block. If they don't TRY to have him replace Gabbert I'm gonna laugh so hard...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9281248/denard-robinson-jacksonville-jaguars-runs-some-plays-qb-spot

#177 Posted by The-Apostle (11914 posts) -

Travis Johnson (some bust Texan) tries to talk shit about Romo. Instead gets gaped himself. 360 defend your boy here.

Put_in_Kitna
Romo is second in Cowboys history in passing yards, first in touchdown passes and first in quarterback rating. And Dallas has had a better winning percentage with Romo as a starter than it did with Troy Aikman (Aikman's winning percentage as a starter was .569, Romo's is .591, and let's just agree that Aikman had a wee bit more talent around him).
"Hasn't earned a dollar," he says. Yeah... And I'm gonna cheer for da Bears this season... >_>
#178 Posted by Put_in_Kitna (2547 posts) -

I was working at McDonald's today and Richard Sherman came through my drive thru. Pretty sweet.monkeytoes61

Did you tell him Skip owns him?

#179 Posted by The-Apostle (11914 posts) -

Travis Johnson (some bust Texan) tries to talk shit about Romo. Instead gets gaped himself. 360 defend your boy here.

Put_in_Kitna
I bookmarked this for future reference next time someone decides to bash Romo.
#180 Posted by Put_in_Kitna (2547 posts) -

Top 5 most valuable teams right now. 

1. Cowboys $2.3 Billion
2. Patriots $1.8 Billion
3. Skins $1.7 Billion
4. Giants $1.55 Billion
5. Texans $1.45 Billion

No surprise for top 4, a bit impressed at Texans for the amount of time.

Raiders are in last place worth $825 million, even the Jags are worth more than Oakland. :lol:

#181 Posted by The-Apostle (11914 posts) -

Top 5 most valuable teams right now. 

1. Cowboys $2.3 Billion
2. Patriots $1.8 Billion
3. Skins $1.7 Billion
4. Giants $1.55 Billion
5. Texans $1.45 Billion

No surprise for top 4, a bit impressed at Texans for the amount of time.

Raiders are in last place worth $825 million, even the Jags are worth more than Oakland. :lol:

Put_in_Kitna
Where do the Packers rank? Link?
#182 Posted by Put_in_Kitna (2547 posts) -

[QUOTE="Put_in_Kitna"]

Top 5 most valuable teams right now. 

1. Cowboys $2.3 Billion
2. Patriots $1.8 Billion
3. Skins $1.7 Billion
4. Giants $1.55 Billion
5. Texans $1.45 Billion

No surprise for top 4, a bit impressed at Texans for the amount of time.

Raiders are in last place worth $825 million, even the Jags are worth more than Oakland. :lol:

The-Apostle

Where do the Packers rank? Link?

They are 12

#183 Posted by yokofox33 (28401 posts) -

Top 5 most valuable teams right now. 

1. Cowboys $2.3 Billion
2. Patriots $1.8 Billion
3. Skins $1.7 Billion
4. Giants $1.55 Billion
5. Texans $1.45 Billion

No surprise for top 4, a bit impressed at Texans for the amount of time.

Raiders are in last place worth $825 million, even the Jags are worth more than Oakland. :lol:

Put_in_Kitna

We aren't the worst in something! This season has already been a success!!!!!

#184 Posted by Boston_Boyy (3810 posts) -
#185 Posted by The-Apostle (11914 posts) -
#186 Posted by Boston_Boyy (3810 posts) -

[QUOTE="Boston_Boyy"]

Help us Tim Tebow, you're our only hope

The-Apostle

Fixed your link.

But wow... I hope he's not too hurt or the Patriots season is over.

Idk, it's concerning though.  Initial reports said it was a non-contact injury, but this video has been circulating showing him getting rolled up on.

#187 Posted by Seabas989 (9648 posts) -

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"]

[QUOTE="Boston_Boyy"]

Help us Tim Tebow, you're our only hope

Boston_Boyy

Fixed your link.

But wow... I hope he's not too hurt or the Patriots season is over.

Idk, it's concerning though.  Initial reports said it was a non-contact injury, but this video has been circulating showing him getting rolled up on.

Hope he's ok.

#188 Posted by starwarsjunky (24551 posts) -
#189 Posted by Chutebox (35677 posts) -

He's day to day, it's not serious.

#190 Posted by GameboyTroy (2454 posts) -

He's day to day, it's not serious.

Chutebox
Luckily for him its not that bad.
#191 Posted by Bobbles (11678 posts) -
[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

He's day to day, it's not serious.

GameboyTroy
Luckily for him its not that bad.

YESS!!!!!!
#192 Posted by RevanBITW (506 posts) -
BTW, when are we doing a Fantasy football league?
#193 Posted by monkeytoes61 (8291 posts) -
BTW, when are we doing a Fantasy football league?RevanBITW
I'll set it up in a week or so.
#194 Posted by Chutebox (35677 posts) -
[QUOTE="GameboyTroy"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

He's day to day, it's not serious.

Bobbles
Luckily for him its not that bad.

YESS!!!!!!

Mr. Obvious is back!
#195 Posted by GameboyTroy (2454 posts) -
[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="GameboyTroy"]Luckily for him its not that bad. Chutebox
YESS!!!!!!

Mr. Obvious is back!

Was saying that the bills would draft a QB obvious? The media was surprised that the bills drafted a QB. Was anyone here surprised that that happened?
#196 Posted by 36Ounces (2033 posts) -

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Bobbles"] YESS!!!!!!GameboyTroy
Mr. Obvious is back!

Was saying that the bills would draft a QB obvious? The media was surprised that the bills drafted a QB. Was anyone here surprised that that happened?

You and PSP107 related?

#197 Posted by JML897 (33064 posts) -
[QUOTE="GameboyTroy"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

He's day to day, it's not serious.

Bobbles
Luckily for him its not that bad.

YESS!!!!!!

:lol::lol:
#198 Posted by GameboyTroy (2454 posts) -

[QUOTE="GameboyTroy"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Mr. Obvious is back!36Ounces

Was saying that the bills would draft a QB obvious? The media was surprised that the bills drafted a QB. Was anyone here surprised that that happened?

You and PSP107 related?

Not at all.
#199 Posted by monkeytoes61 (8291 posts) -
[QUOTE="36Ounces"]

[QUOTE="GameboyTroy"]Was saying that the bills would draft a QB obvious? The media was surprised that the bills drafted a QB. Was anyone here surprised that that happened?GameboyTroy

You and PSP107 related?

Not at all.

Right over his head
#200 Posted by The-Apostle (11914 posts) -
[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Bobbles"] YESS!!!!!!GameboyTroy
Mr. Obvious is back!

Was saying that the bills would draft a QB obvious? The media was surprised that the bills drafted a QB. Was anyone here surprised that that happened?

I thought it was a little obvious. Why wouldn't they draft a QB? Fitz"magic" sucks.