NFL Regular season awards thread

Cast your ballots here for the following catagories, only using the 2012 regular season to make your picks:

Offensive Rookie of the Year:
Defensive Rookie of the Year:
Coach of the Year:
Comeback Player of the Year:
Offensive Player of the Year:
Defensive Player of the Year:
Most Valuable Player:

I'll take votes until just before the divisional round of the playoffs begin (the end of the 11th) and tally the votes. For what it's worth yes Bruce Arians and Chuck Pagano can be counted as a single vote, and yes you are allowed to have separate OROY and MVPs, but certainly not required.

My Ballot:

Offensive Rookie of the Year: Robert Griffin III
Defensive Rookie of the Year: Bobby Wagner
Coach of the Year: Bruce Arians and Chuck Pagano
Comeback Player of the Year: Peyton Manning
Offensive Player of the Year: Adrian Peterson
Defensive Player of the Year: J.J. Watt
Most Valuable Player: Adrian Peterson

Offensive Rookie of the Year:Robert Griffin III

Defensive Rookie of the Year:Luke Kuechly

Coach of the Year: John Fox

Comeback Player of the Year: A Peterson

Offensive Player of the Year:A Peterson

Defensive Player of the Year:JJ Watt

Most Valuable Player:All Day AP

Offensive Rookie of the Year: RG3
Defensive Rookie of the Year: Honestly don't know enough to decide.
Coach of the Year: Pete Carrol
Comeback Player of the Year:AP
Offensive Player of the Year: AP
Defensive Player of the Year: J.J. Watt
Most Valuable Player:AP

Offensive Rookie of the Year: Andrew Luck

Defensive Rookie of the Year: Bobby Wagner

Coach of the Year: Pete Carroll

Comeback Player of the Year: Peyton Manning

Offensive Player of the Year: Peyton Manning

Defensive Player of the Year: Richard Sherman

Most Valuable Player: Adrian Peterson

I don't know why more don't state Pete as CotY. What that team has turned into and his decision I think puts him up there.

ORY: Andrew Luck (Griffin and Wilson had great talent surrounding them, Luck not so much)

DRY: Luke Kuechly

Coach of the Year: Leslie Frazier

Comeback Player of the Year: Peyton Manning

OPY: AP

DPY: Watt

MVP: AP

RGIII has dat QB rating of the "elite tier"...Luck not so much

RGIII has dat QB rating of the "elite tier"...Luck not so much

Yusuke420

My overall point being, RG3 is a fine choice due to his fantastic play, yet still, like many rookie quarterbacks, has many ways benefiting from a lighter load and solid support. Andrew Luck's statistics may not be as fantastic, but this is largely due to a variety of reasons that are out of his control. He deserves a lion's share of credit for his team's 11-5 record that simply would not be possible had be been asked to pass only 25.5 times a game.

Just a heads up, having a truly balanced offense isn't "limiting" the QB. And they didn't run that many screens. They ran a lot of screens on the first drive of the season, but that's it. If you guys are able to watch his games, please do. You'll realize how good he actually is. It's what all offenses strive for. And the rushing game was so good because of RG3.

Just a heads up, having a truly balanced offense isn't "limiting" the QB. And they didn't run that many screens. They ran a lot of screens on the first drive of the season, but that's it. If you guys are able to watch his games, please do. You'll realize how good he actually is. It's what all offenses strive for. And the rushing game was so good because of RG3.

Chutebox

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Just a heads up, having a truly balanced offense isn't "limiting" the QB. And they didn't run that many screens. They ran a lot of screens on the first drive of the season, but that's it. If you guys are able to watch his games, please do. You'll realize how good he actually is. It's what all offenses strive for. And the rushing game was so good because of RG3.

No_Hablo_Ingles

Uh. No. Morris is pretty good. IMO he made RG3 better not the other way around.

Just a heads up, having a truly balanced offense isn't "limiting" the QB. And they didn't run that many screens. They ran a lot of screens on the first drive of the season, but that's it. If you guys are able to watch his games, please do. You'll realize how good he actually is. It's what all offenses strive for. And the rushing game was so good because of RG3.

Chutebox

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Just a heads up, having a truly balanced offense isn't "limiting" the QB. And they didn't run that many screens. They ran a lot of screens on the first drive of the season, but that's it. If you guys are able to watch his games, please do. You'll realize how good he actually is. It's what all offenses strive for. And the rushing game was so good because of RG3.

Put_in_Kitna

Uh. No. Morris is pretty good. IMO he made RG3 better not the other way around.

Just a heads up, having a truly balanced offense isn't "limiting" the QB. And they didn't run that many screens. They ran a lot of screens on the first drive of the season, but that's it. If you guys are able to watch his games, please do. You'll realize how good he actually is. It's what all offenses strive for. And the rushing game was so goodbecauseof RG3.

Chutebox

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Just a heads up, having a truly balanced offense isn't "limiting" the QB. And they didn't run that many screens. They ran a lot of screens on the first drive of the season, but that's it. If you guys are able to watch his games, please do. You'll realize how good he actually is. It's what all offenses strive for. And the rushing game was so good because of RG3.

Put_in_Kitna

Uh. No. Morris is pretty good. IMO he made RG3 better not the other way around.

Oh please, Morris is good. Not as good as his numbers though. And if you think he made RG3 better you're nuts.

See now I want to get on Madden and rock some Read Option plays!

To anyone who thinks RG3 did better than Luck please take the time to understand how wrong you are.

WHY LUCK IS BETTER THAN RG3

I'll look at the article but I'm inclined to believe that the NY times would be a tad biased to the Washington QB. Also does it account for his 700 yards on the ground, which is something Luck can't do?

[QUOTE="Put_in_Kitna"]

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"] Not sure about the screen numbers, but anyone who thinks Morris is really that good is insane. He is a product of a system and RG3's running ability. The threat of RG3 running keeps pass rushers like DeMarcus Ware still, allowing Morris to get where he wants to go with much greater ease.No_Hablo_Ingles

Uh. No. Morris is pretty good. IMO he made RG3 better not the other way around.

Theres a reason why Ware kept going inside to stop Morris not RG3. Ware was also on half a body lmao, anyone would of froze him. He played on pure guts and heart.

[QUOTE="Put_in_Kitna"]

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"] Not sure about the screen numbers, but anyone who thinks Morris is really that good is insane. He is a product of a system and RG3's running ability. The threat of RG3 running keeps pass rushers like DeMarcus Ware still, allowing Morris to get where he wants to go with much greater ease.Chutebox

Uh. No. Morris is pretty good. IMO he made RG3 better not the other way around.

Oh please, Morris is good. Not as good as his numbers though. And if you think he made RG3 better you're nuts.

Neither are as good as their numbers. I think a RB helps out a QB more than the other way around. RGturd is the better player yeah, just saying Morris made RG3 look way better. You think anyone would take the inside on those options if they had some scrub playing? What did VY make Chris Johnson better too?

I'll look at the article but I'm inclined to believe that the NY times would be a tad biased to the Washington QB. Also does it account for his 700 yards on the ground, which is something Luck can't do?

Yusuke420

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="Put_in_Kitna"]

Uh. No. Morris is pretty good. IMO he made RG3 better not the other way around.

Put_in_Kitna

Theres a reason why Ware kept going inside to stop Morris not RG3. Ware was also on half a body lmao, anyone would of froze him. He played on pure guts and heart.

I'll look at the article but I'm inclined to believe that the NY times would be a tad biased to the Washington QB. Also does it account for his 700 yards on the ground, which is something Luck can't do?

Yusuke420

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

I'll look at the article but I'm inclined to believe that the NY times would be a tad biased to the Washington QB. Also does it account for his 700 yards on the ground, which is something Luck can't do?

Boston_Boyy

The stats are steady for the rest of the season

RG3 has statistically the better season, but Luck has been able to in my opinion to do more with less. 11 wins is pretty amazing for a team that actually got worse talent wise since last season except for QB.

[QUOTE="Boston_Boyy"]

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

I'll look at the article but I'm inclined to believe that the NY times would be a tad biased to the Washington QB. Also does it account for his 700 yards on the ground, which is something Luck can't do?

Jaysonguy

The stats are steady for the rest of the season

To anyone who thinks RG3 did better than Luck please take the time to understand how wrong you are.

WHY LUCK IS BETTER THAN RG3

Jaysonguy

RG3 has statistically the better season, but Luck has been able to in my opinion to do more with less. 11 wins is pretty amazing for a team that actually got worse talent wise since last season except for QB.

sherman-tank1

[QUOTE="Put_in_Kitna"]

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"] I didn't say Morris wasn't good, simply that he is not that good. And you are wrong. The Read option that froze Ware week 17 is only effective if the defense respects the QBs ability to run.No_Hablo_Ingles

Theres a reason why Ware kept going inside to stop Morris not RG3. Ware was also on half a body lmao, anyone would of froze him. He played on pure guts and heart.

You talking about one play. Im talking bout the whole game.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

To anyone who thinks RG3 did better than Luck please take the time to understand how wrong you are.

WHY LUCK IS BETTER THAN RG3

Chutebox

:lol:

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="Put_in_Kitna"]

Theres a reason why Ware kept going inside to stop Morris not RG3. Ware was also on half a body lmao, anyone would of froze him. He played on pure guts and heart.

Put_in_Kitna

You talking about one play. Im talking bout the whole game.

I like Luck because they are asking him to do it all right from the get go. Not that Griffin and Wilson haven't been important to their teams, but Luck has meant so much more. Luck doesn't have Griffin and Wilson's top ten rushing attacks, nor Wilson's great defense. They asked him to throw 40 times a game, and they needed him to do that to win every game this year. That's why Luck is my OROY over the other two.monkeytoes61

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]I like Luck because they are asking him to do it all right from the get go. Not that Griffin and Wilson haven't been important to their teams, but Luck has meant so much more. Luck doesn't have Griffin and Wilson's top ten rushing attacks, nor Wilson's great defense. They asked him to throw 40 times a game, and they needed him to do that to win every game this year. That's why Luck is my OROY over the other two.Chutebox

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]I like Luck because they are asking him to do it all right from the get go. Not that Griffin and Wilson haven't been important to their teams, but Luck has meant so much more. Luck doesn't have Griffin and Wilson's top ten rushing attacks, nor Wilson's great defense. They asked him to throw 40 times a game, and they needed him to do that to win every game this year. That's why Luck is my OROY over the other two.Chutebox

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]I like Luck because they are asking him to do it all right from the get go. Not that Griffin and Wilson haven't been important to their teams, but Luck has meant so much more. Luck doesn't have Griffin and Wilson's top ten rushing attacks, nor Wilson's great defense. They asked him to throw 40 times a game, and they needed him to do that to win every game this year. That's why Luck is my OROY over the other two.monkeytoes61

Really? You bring that up when having a discussion about Redskins? And as a team, Colts at 1600+ rushing yards. Not too shabby. He didn't have too many weapons, but he did have one of the best WR in the game and a TE he played with in Stanford.

My Ballot:

Offensive Rookie of the Year: Robert Griffin III
Defensive Rookie of the Year: Bobby Wagner
Coach of the Year: Bruce Arians and Chuck Pagano
Comeback Player of the Year: Peyton Manning
Offensive Player of the Year: Adrian Peterson
Defensive Player of the Year: J.J. Watt
Most Valuable Player: Adrian Peterson

Boston_Boyy

I don't know why more don't state Pete as CotY. What that team has turned into and his decision I think puts him up there.

Chutebox

My Ballot:

Offensive Rookie of the Year: Robert Griffin III
Defensive Rookie of the Year: Bobby Wagner
Coach of the Year: Bruce Arians and Chuck Pagano
Comeback Player of the Year: Peyton Manning
Offensive Player of the Year: Adrian Peterson
Defensive Player of the Year: J.J. Watt
Most Valuable Player: Adrian Peterson

Boston_Boyy

Good picks.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

I don't know why more don't state Pete as CotY. What that team has turned into and his decision I think puts him up there.

The-Apostle

Offensive Rookie of the Year: RG3
Defensive Rookie of the Year:
Coach of the Year: Bruce Arians or Leslie Frazer
Comeback Player of the Year: Peyton Manning
Offensive Player of the Year: Adrian Peterson
Defensive Player of the Year: JJ Swatt
Most Valuable Player: Adrian Peterson

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

To anyone who thinks RG3 did better than Luck please take the time to understand how wrong you are.

WHY LUCK IS BETTER THAN RG3

Chutebox

Just because I'm superior to you that's no reason to be rude.

Read my links, learn a couple of things, and maybe after a while you'll make some intelligent posts by agreeing with me.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="Boston_Boyy"]It did mention it, and basically said that the value of Luck's runs were higher than the sum of their parts due the fact that were taken at the opprtune times (at get first downs and score touchdowns) and it should be noted Luck did have 255 yards and 5 TDs which is hardly anything to sneeze at for a QB. Of course it hardly says that Luck is "clearly" better and is from October which Jaysonguy failed to mention.

Boston_Boyy

The stats are steady for the rest of the season

I understand why he did that but I don't agree.

RG3 was asked to do less but he did it very well

Luck was asked to do much more than RG3 but didn't do all of it as well.

I think the biggest thing against RG3 is the play of Kirk Cousins in the same system. The system in Washington is incredibly passer friendly not putting the QB in any real danger of screwing up completely. There's too many safety valves going on, too many throws that rely on YAC to get the yards.

In a lot of ways it reminded of the way Brady was treated when he replaced Bledsoe, the team made everything stupidly simple on offense and fed Brady more plays as he grew either during the game or during the season.

Luck was put into a vertical passing game with a rushing attack that was in the bottom third of the league and most importantly he had to deal with the coaching situation all year long.

[QUOTE="Boston_Boyy"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

The stats are steady for the rest of the season

Jaysonguy

I understand why he did that but I don't agree.

RG3 was asked to do less but he did it very well

Luck was asked to do much more than RG3 but didn't do all of it as well.

I think the biggest thing against RG3 is the play of Kirk Cousins in the same system. The system in Washington is incredibly passer friendly not putting the QB in any real danger of screwing up completely. There's too many safety valves going on, too many throws that rely on YAC to get the yards.

In a lot of ways it reminded of the way Brady was treated when he replaced Bledsoe, the team made everything stupidly simple on offense and fed Brady more plays as he grew either during the game or during the season.

Luck was put into a vertical passing game with a rushing attack that was in the bottom third of the league and most importantly he had to deal with the coaching situation all year long.

Same BS with no proof. Watch him play, dumb ass. He is that offense and he throws down the field accurately, a lot. Funny that you don't like the guys opinion or follow it when he goes directly against what you want.

Dumb ass.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

To anyone who thinks RG3 did better than Luck please take the time to understand how wrong you are.

WHY LUCK IS BETTER THAN RG3

Jaysonguy

Just because I'm superior to you that's no reason to be rude.

Read my links, learn a couple of things, and maybe after a while you'll make some intelligent posts by agreeing with me.

From your boy, "Griffin might have just had the most impressive rookie season in N.F.L. history."

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="Boston_Boyy"]Some have evened out a bit so that the discripency isn't quite as large it was in October (like the deep ball and throws behind the line of scrimmage stats) and to be fair, the same writer did endorse RGII for Offensive Rookie of the Year at the end of the season.

Chutebox

I understand why he did that but I don't agree.

RG3 was asked to do less but he did it very well

Luck was asked to do much more than RG3 but didn't do all of it as well.

I think the biggest thing against RG3 is the play of Kirk Cousins in the same system. The system in Washington is incredibly passer friendly not putting the QB in any real danger of screwing up completely. There's too many safety valves going on, too many throws that rely on YAC to get the yards.

In a lot of ways it reminded of the way Brady was treated when he replaced Bledsoe, the team made everything stupidly simple on offense and fed Brady more plays as he grew either during the game or during the season.

Luck was put into a vertical passing game with a rushing attack that was in the bottom third of the league and most importantly he had to deal with the coaching situation all year long.

Same BS with no proof. Watch him play, dumb ass. He is that offense and he throws down the field accurately, a lot. Funny that you don't like the guys opinion or follow it when he goes directly against what you want.

Dumb ass.

I have Sunday ticket, so yeah, that happened.

Also Cousins came in and ran that offense perfectly throwing for over 300 yards. So was RG3 the offense that week too?

Luck moved the needle more, RG3 didn't screw up in a system that was created so a QB couldn't screw up.

Luck took an offensive style that 90% of the starting QB's in the league can't run and carried a team to the playoffs.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

I understand why he did that but I don't agree.

RG3 was asked to do less but he did it very well

Luck was asked to do much more than RG3 but didn't do all of it as well.

I think the biggest thing against RG3 is the play of Kirk Cousins in the same system. The system in Washington is incredibly passer friendly not putting the QB in any real danger of screwing up completely. There's too many safety valves going on, too many throws that rely on YAC to get the yards.

In a lot of ways it reminded of the way Brady was treated when he replaced Bledsoe, the team made everything stupidly simple on offense and fed Brady more plays as he grew either during the game or during the season.

Luck was put into a vertical passing game with a rushing attack that was in the bottom third of the league and most importantly he had to deal with the coaching situation all year long.

Jaysonguy

Same BS with no proof. Watch him play, dumb ass. He is that offense and he throws down the field accurately, a lot. Funny that you don't like the guys opinion or follow it when he goes directly against what you want.

Dumb ass.

I have Sunday ticket, so yeah, that happened.

Also Cousins came in and ran that offense perfectly throwing for over 300 yards. So was RG3 the offense that week too?

Luck moved the needle more, RG3 didn't screw up in a system that was created so a QB couldn't screw up.

Luck took an offensive style that 90% of the starting QB's in the league can't run and carried a team to the playoffs.

Yes, threw 300 yards against the Browns. Bravo. You haven't watched anything, if you had you would realize how stupid your arguement is. There is no such thing as an offense a QB can't screw up. That's just stupid by itself.

90% of QBs in the league? Does it hurt pulling all this **** out of your ass?

Any QB that throws for 18 INTs and 24 TDs is not "carrying" his team to the playoffs. That team is truly what you call a team effort. No one person carried that team. But, if anyone carried that team, I would put it on Wayne before Luck.

I am, however, really excited to see how Luck does next year.

They both badass QB's, but you gotta give ROY to Griffin based off stats. I think both will get their teams rings in the future though.