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Posted by samanthademeste (1141 posts) 8 months, 28 days ago

Poll: Do you like Hockey? (26 votes)

Yes 85%
No 15%

Any hockey fans here?

#1 Edited by yokofox33 (29910 posts) -

Love hockey. I have season tickets for my hometown Florida Panthers. It's definitely the most entertaining sport for me to see live.

#2 Posted by PSP107 (11941 posts) -

Seems like a fun sport to play but it doesn't translate well on TV.

#3 Posted by Tokeism (2338 posts) -

Field Hockey = Yes

Other hockey = No

#4 Posted by JML897 (33125 posts) -

@PSP107 said:

Seems like a fun sport to play but it doesn't translate well on TV.

Completely disagree. I think it's the most exciting sport to watch.

It's really tense the whole way through and there's pretty much nonstop action. For basketball people have legitimate complaints when they talk about there being too many stoppages late in games with timeouts, FTs, etc. I think I saw that the last minute of the Tenn/Mich game last night took 16 actual minutes to play. Football has commercials after every change of possession/timeout. Baseball is hard to really pay close attention for the entire game unless it's the playoffs.

#5 Edited by Arach666 (23042 posts) -

Yeah,I like roller hockey(quad),the other types not so much mostly because I´m not very familiar with them.

#6 Posted by Master_Live (14853 posts) -

Yes.

#7 Posted by PSP107 (11941 posts) -

@JML897 said:

@PSP107 said:

Seems like a fun sport to play but it doesn't translate well on TV.

It's really tense the whole way through and there's pretty much nonstop action.

I disagree with this. The tense action you speak off doesn't translate well on tv. The nonstop action is just as similar to soccer where nothing seems to be happening the majority of the game.

#8 Posted by ObeseChipmunk (6171 posts) -

Just watched the Flyers and Bruins play all the way to overtime and a shootout. Such a great game. Slick moves, goalies robbing shots left and right, big puck battles. Wish my hometown leafs would stop sucking and play like that...

#9 Edited by ObeseChipmunk (6171 posts) -

@PSP107 said:

@JML897 said:

@PSP107 said:

Seems like a fun sport to play but it doesn't translate well on TV.

It's really tense the whole way through and there's pretty much nonstop action.

I disagree with this. The tense action you speak off doesn't translate well on tv. The nonstop action is just as similar to soccer where nothing seems to be happening the majority of the game.

Soccer doesn't have nonstop action. Running around on a big field isn't quite up to pace with skating on a smaller arena with boards that prevent the puck from going out of play. The back and forth play is quick in hockey. And big hits and turnovers often take place in the neutral zone. You don't see that kind of continuous action in soccer.

#10 Posted by PSP107 (11941 posts) -

@ObeseChipmunk said:

@PSP107 said:

@JML897 said:

@PSP107 said:

Seems like a fun sport to play but it doesn't translate well on TV.

It's really tense the whole way through and there's pretty much nonstop action.

I disagree with this. The tense action you speak off doesn't translate well on tv. The nonstop action is just as similar to soccer where nothing seems to be happening the majority of the game.

Soccer doesn't have nonstop action. Running around on a big field isn't quite up to pace with skating on a smaller arena with boards that prevent the puck from going out of play. The back and forth play is quick in hockey. And big hits and turnovers often take place in the neutral zone. You don't see that kind of continuous action in soccer.

I'm pretty sure a soccer player will disagree with you on the nonstop action part. Players moving around a lot in the game. But just like soccer, the nonstop action in hockey is flawed as a TV event.

And I think you on to something with you mention the turnovers. Its seems in both soccer/hockey the back in forth consist of the puck/soccer ball changing possession every 2 seconds.

#11 Posted by ObeseChipmunk (6171 posts) -

@PSP107 said:

@ObeseChipmunk said:

@PSP107 said:

@JML897 said:

@PSP107 said:

Seems like a fun sport to play but it doesn't translate well on TV.

It's really tense the whole way through and there's pretty much nonstop action.

I disagree with this. The tense action you speak off doesn't translate well on tv. The nonstop action is just as similar to soccer where nothing seems to be happening the majority of the game.

Soccer doesn't have nonstop action. Running around on a big field isn't quite up to pace with skating on a smaller arena with boards that prevent the puck from going out of play. The back and forth play is quick in hockey. And big hits and turnovers often take place in the neutral zone. You don't see that kind of continuous action in soccer.

I'm pretty sure a soccer player will disagree with you on the nonstop action part. Players moving around a lot in the game. But just like soccer, the nonstop action in hockey is flawed as a TV event.

And I think you on to something with you mention the turnovers. Its seems in both soccer/hockey the back in forth consist of the puck/soccer ball changing possession every 2 seconds.

I'd say action is more about battling with opponents than it is "moving around a lot." That's why I think hockey is different.

#12 Posted by JML897 (33125 posts) -

I've always thought hockey was a more condensed, intense, and faster version of soccer. It's basically soccer on steroids.

#13 Edited by roulettethedog (10980 posts) -

Huge Maple Leafs and Minnesota Golden Gophers fan and like college hockey's frozen four.

#14 Posted by MrYaotubo (2709 posts) -

I like it quite a bit,even moreso considering Spain is the best team in the world,so that helps.

#15 Posted by Seabas989 (10404 posts) -

Yeah but I'm mainly a casual fan. For example I mostly watch: Caps games, the Olympics, and a couple Stanley Cup playoff games that have an interesting match up.

I do love the parity in the playoffs especially compared to the NBA which has the same format but with awful teams getting in.

#16 Posted by JML897 (33125 posts) -

@MrYaotubo said:

Spain is the best team in the world

Are you sure you're talking about ice hockey

#17 Posted by MrYaotubo (2709 posts) -

@JML897 said:

@MrYaotubo said:

Spain is the best team in the world

Are you sure you're talking about ice hockey

Where in the OP says this is about ice hockey?

#18 Posted by PSP107 (11941 posts) -

@Seabas989 said:

Yeah but I'm mainly a casual fan. For example I mostly watch: Caps games, the Olympics, and a couple Stanley Cup playoff games that have an interesting match up.

I do love the parity in the playoffs especially compared to the NBA which has the same format but with awful teams getting in.

What's and interesting matchup?

How do you know it's a parity if you don't watch it enough?

#19 Posted by Seabas989 (10404 posts) -

@PSP107 said:

@Seabas989 said:

Yeah but I'm mainly a casual fan. For example I mostly watch: Caps games, the Olympics, and a couple Stanley Cup playoff games that have an interesting match up.

I do love the parity in the playoffs especially compared to the NBA which has the same format but with awful teams getting in.

What's and interesting matchup?

How do you know it's a parity if you don't watch it enough?

The LA Kings and the fact that the Caps have had #1 seeds and lost to an 8th seed. I don't see that with the NBA except that one time when the Warriors did it.

#20 Posted by JML897 (33125 posts) -

@PSP107 said:

@Seabas989 said:

Yeah but I'm mainly a casual fan. For example I mostly watch: Caps games, the Olympics, and a couple Stanley Cup playoff games that have an interesting match up.

I do love the parity in the playoffs especially compared to the NBA which has the same format but with awful teams getting in.

How do you know it's a parity if you don't watch it enough?

He's right though.

In the NBA everyone pretty much knows that the East finals are going to be Indiana vs Miami unless one of those teams suffers a major injury.

In hockey the top seeds get knocked out in the first or second round pretty often. Hockey's low scoring, more random than basketball, and sometimes in the playoffs a goalie just gets hot at the right time and carries his team deep into the playoffs because all of a sudden no shots can get past him.

#21 Posted by PSP107 (11941 posts) -

@JML897:

No I'm asking how do you know those lower seeds in the NHL are bad if one doesn't follow them for 82 games?

My guess he just looks at the their record when the playoffs starts.

#22 Edited by roulettethedog (10980 posts) -

@PSP107:

In the N.H.L., A hot goalie can make any regular season record irrelevant.

#23 Edited by PSP107 (11941 posts) -

@roulettethedog said:

@PSP107:

In the N.H.L., A hot goalie can make any regular season record irrelevant.

I'm not a hockey expert but I find it odd that the goalie is the reason for wins and losses. From the hockey highlights, it seems all the other players are around the goalie.

A goalie getting x amount of saves can't be all based on the goalie?

And its not like hockey consist of high scoring.

#24 Posted by roulettethedog (10980 posts) -

@PSP107:

Odd man rushes like a 2 on1 and defensive breakdowns where the goalie makes the save can and do let teams being outplayed win games. I have seen many games where one team attacks and attacks then the other team gets the puck out and then scores.

#25 Edited by PSP107 (11941 posts) -

@roulettethedog said:

@PSP107:

Odd man rushes like a 2 on1 and defensive breakdowns where the goalie makes the save can and do let teams being outplayed win games. I have seen many games where one team attacks and attacks then the other team gets the puck out and then scores.

How often does a breakaway occur in a game? And I doubt it outweighs a set play shot or a around the goalie goal.

#26 Posted by one_plum (6358 posts) -
@PSP107 said:

@roulettethedog said:

@PSP107:

In the N.H.L., A hot goalie can make any regular season record irrelevant.

I'm not a hockey expert but I find it odd that the goalie is the reason for wins and losses. From the hockey highlights, it seems all the other players are around the goalie.

A goalie getting x amount of saves can't be all based on the goalie?

And its not like hockey consist of high scoring.

The goalie can indeed make or break a team in the playoffs. A good goalie stops every shot he is expected to make. A great goalie also stops shots that he is not expected to be capable of making. An overrated goalie is one who chokes in the playoffs.

#27 Posted by PSP107 (11941 posts) -

@one_plum:

Just how many goal saves is solely based on the goalie?

#28 Posted by one_plum (6358 posts) -

@PSP107 said:

@one_plum:

Just how many goal saves is solely based on the goalie?

I don't understand your question. Virtually every recorded shot requires the goalie to save it otherwise the puck would enter the goal.

Defensively, the players on the team can either block a shot (which isn't statistically recorded as a shot) or limit their goalie's necessity to make difficult saves.

#29 Posted by PSP107 (11941 posts) -

@one_plum:

Correct me if I'm wrong but a lot of goal saves are based on,

1. low percentage shot attempts.

2. Players surrounding the net.

#30 Posted by one_plum (6358 posts) -

@PSP107:

1. Whether the opposing team shoots frequently or rarely, the goalie still has to make those save regardless. I'm not sure if that answers your question.

2. One tricky thing about players surrounding the net is that the puck can get deflected many times. In that case, it's almost impossible for the goalie to stop this kind of shot, so it is sometimes wiser to give the goalie some room to see the puck and keep the opposing players from obstructing the view or prevent them from capitalizing a rebound if the goalie cannot immobilize the puck.

#31 Edited by PSP107 (11941 posts) -

@one_plum:

1. I don't mean shot attempts. In basketball, a low percentage shot is consider a shot attempt a player has no chance of making. Example will be Shaq shooting a 3 point shot. In hockey, players shoot long slaps shot that has no chance of going in(its very rare that it does go in)

2. The surrounding the net is funny. It seems people are rewarding the goalie more when in fact his teammates has a big influence as well.

And lets also factor in how small the nets are. I think the NHL should widen the net.

#32 Edited by PSP107 (11941 posts) -

Still not tall/wide enough.

#33 Posted by one_plum (6358 posts) -

@PSP107 said:

@one_plum:

1. I don't mean shot attempts. In basketball, a low percentage shot is consider a shot attempt a player has no chance of making. Example will be Shaq shooting a 3 point shot. In hockey, players shoot long slaps shot that has no chance of going in(its very rare that it does go in)

2. The surrounding the net is funny. It seems people are rewarding the goalie more when in fact his teammates has a big influence as well.

And lets also factor in how small the nets are. I think the NHL should widen the net.

1. Long slap shots go in when there's a lot of traffic in front. It impedes the goalie's view and deflections confuse goalies.

2. It's still a team sport, but if your goalie sucks, it kills all your team's momentum and motivation.

I think fans of the game are fine with the current net size; I'm inclined to agree. I think they could do something with the violence though.

#34 Posted by PSP107 (11941 posts) -

@one_plum:

1. Is it safe to safe the majority of goals are scored that way?

2. Maybe its because I'm not a hockey purist, but a goalie seems some what overrated. NHL scoring is very low and most goals occurs around a surrounding net of players in which you implied confusing.

Not only should they widen the net, they should also widen the rink.

#35 Posted by sherman-tank1 (8150 posts) -

Can anyone PM some good NHL streams for the playoffs?

#36 Posted by one_plum (6358 posts) -

@PSP107 said:

@one_plum:

1. Is it safe to safe the majority of goals are scored that way?

2. Maybe its because I'm not a hockey purist, but a goalie seems some what overrated. NHL scoring is very low and most goals occurs around a surrounding net of players in which you implied confusing.

Not only should they widen the net, they should also widen the rink.

Agree to disagree. Anyhow, just sit back and enjoy the playoffs.

#37 Posted by PSP107 (11941 posts) -

@one_plum said:

@PSP107 said:

@one_plum:

1. Is it safe to safe the majority of goals are scored that way?

2. Maybe its because I'm not a hockey purist, but a goalie seems some what overrated. NHL scoring is very low and most goals occurs around a surrounding net of players in which you implied confusing.

Not only should they widen the net, they should also widen the rink.

Agree to disagree. Anyhow, just sit back and enjoy the playoffs.

I don't watch hockey. I'll check the Blackhawks occasionally though.

Anyway, Blackhawks 1st opponent is the Blues, what's the scouting report on them?

#38 Posted by s-e-e-k (252 posts) -

I'm from Detroit and watch most of the Red Wings games every season.

#39 Posted by 4myAmuzumament (1750 posts) -

Only when my hockey friends are around and it's on. Don't really seek it out... I probably should though since I heard the Stars are in the NHL Playoffs... which is happening now apparently... and I heard the NHL Playoffs is intense and there are way more fights....... but even after all that, I still don't really care that I'm missing it.

#40 Posted by ccs007 (12 posts) -

I love hockey but only occasionally get the chance to play.

#41 Posted by Zombiekiller360 (374 posts) -

Hockey is best what's up with the hate? It's fast paced, rarely long stoppages of play, a game is never out of reach, players don't give up, uhmm what else you need?

Go Kings Go! beat these quackers

#42 Posted by PSP107 (11941 posts) -

@Zombiekiller360 said:

Hockey is best what's up with the hate? It's fast paced, rarely long stoppages of play, a game is never out of reach, players don't give up, uhmm what else you need?

Go Kings Go! beat these quackers

Those rarely long stoppages you speak of consist of nothing really happening though. Just dudes skating. lol at games never out of reach. I disagree with that. Scoring doesn't happen much. I mean a team can score a goal in the beginning of a game and chances are, the game is over despite the game just starting.

#43 Edited by teske4444 (58 posts) -

I think hockey and soccer are more enjoyable if you played them and understand the rules. Watching plays unfold before they are made can really add to the excitement of them. In my opinion, the low scoring adds to the intensity of the game, where as every basket made in the first 3 quarters of a basketball game almost seem irrelevant to me. I know they are important, but it is hard to get excited about anything in basketball until the end.

#44 Posted by mattykovax (22693 posts) -

Regular season I just follow the Bruins in the standings. Playoffs however is like a whole other sport and I will watch it no matter who is playing all the way up to the final cup game.

#45 Posted by one_plum (6358 posts) -

So bummed that the Ducks lost. Selanne played his last game and Koivu possibly ends his career without winning the cup.

#46 Posted by DejectedDalek (10 posts) -

Hockey is one of my favorite sports.

#47 Edited by cainetao11 (17748 posts) -

@JML897 said:

@PSP107 said:

Seems like a fun sport to play but it doesn't translate well on TV.

Completely disagree. I think it's the most exciting sport to watch.

It's really tense the whole way through and there's pretty much nonstop action. For basketball people have legitimate complaints when they talk about there being too many stoppages late in games with timeouts, FTs, etc. I think I saw that the last minute of the Tenn/Mich game last night took 16 actual minutes to play. Football has commercials after every change of possession/timeout. Baseball is hard to really pay close attention for the entire game unless it's the playoffs.

I learned that after playing it, you gain an appreciation for how skilled those players really are. Skating, unlike running which is what most sports require does not come naturally. Add that you need to control the puck and do so without looking at it because if your head is down BOOM! You're getting hit. Then comes shooting. Friends were always amazed when they came out to play for the first time with me at how hard it is to roof a puck. It is the hardest sport I've ever played, and most fun.

#48 Edited by cainetao11 (17748 posts) -

@4myAmuzumament said:

Only when my hockey friends are around and it's on. Don't really seek it out... I probably should though since I heard the Stars are in the NHL Playoffs... which is happening now apparently... and I heard the NHL Playoffs is intense and there are way more fights....... but even after all that, I still don't really care that I'm missing it.

You were lied to. The NHL playoffs there are rarely any fights. No player wants to spend 5 minutes in the box for fighting in the playoffs.

#49 Edited by Xenthou (11 posts) -

I am most certainly a hockey fan! I don't just watch it, but I play it. I have been playing it since third grade, now going into eighth, and started off playing as goalie and my coach noticed I have good slapshot potential and assigned me to second line right wing sniper. Now, though, I play first line. I love the Blackhawks, Kings, and Avalanche.
And for everyone saying soccer is slow, I also played it, depending on how much time you get on the field if you get forward like I did you'll do a lot of running.

#50 Edited by PSP107 (11941 posts) -

@cainetao11:

It should be hard because you never played it.