Would you put the Xbox's quality over the PS2's quantity?

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#1 Posted by MicrosoftVP_Ted (77 posts) -
I like to envision the Xbox as the only quality entertainment interactive on the market the 6th generation of gaming consoles, and it is so. While not to far off from the PS2 library, would you agree that exclusives and shared with others, that the Xbox simply had more quality assured than the PS2? You can talk about quantity, however, tons of games in genres that the PS2 is not strong act are sub-par compared to the engaging experience on the Xbox other than japanese developed Action-Adventure and Role-playing titles, which at the time were all very similar and are not actually relevant.
#2 Posted by wiicube64 (371 posts) -

I personally can't. While the Xbox was a fine system, its few great exclusives can't match the PS2's HUGE list of amazing content. Also, I like RPGs so its easy to see why I would prefer the PS2.

#3 Posted by Shenmue_Jehuty (5207 posts) -

The XBOX had better graphics, no doubt about it, but the amount of quality games on the PS2 outnumber the amount on the original XBOX 5 to 1, if not 10 to 1. I love the original XBOX, but doesn't compete in quality, at least in terms of overall great games on each respective system.

#4 Posted by MicrosoftVP_Ted (77 posts) -

I personally can't. While the Xbox was a fine system, its few great exclusives can't match the PS2's HUGE list of amazing content. Also, I like RPGs so its easy to see why I would prefer the PS2.

wiicube64
There are Rpgs on the Xbox, and few exclusives is a misinformation. I would suggest further research.
#5 Posted by MicrosoftVP_Ted (77 posts) -

The XBOX had better graphics, no doubt about it, but the amount of quality games on the PS2 outnumber the amount on the original XBOX 5 to 1, if not 10 to 1. I love the original XBOX, but doesn't compete in quality, at least in terms of overall great games on each respective system.

Shenmue_Jehuty
With the PS2 having slightly over 1000 or so more games, I do not see how you get 10 to one when most of the PS2 games that aren't bad when you keep digging through the library are usually shared with something else. Unless I am reading the game lists wrong. I will say the PS2 did become quite a seller, the First Playstation proved to be quite beneficial, in that as well as no real competition and DVD at launch,
#6 Posted by wiicube64 (371 posts) -
[QUOTE="wiicube64"]

I personally can't. While the Xbox was a fine system, its few great exclusives can't match the PS2's HUGE list of amazing content. Also, I like RPGs so its easy to see why I would prefer the PS2.

MicrosoftVP_Ted
There are Rpgs on the Xbox, and few exclusives is a misinformation. I would suggest further research.

There are RPGs on the Xbox but certainly not as many as there are on the PS2, especially when we're talking JRPGs. The only exclusives that ever interested me on the Xbox that come to mind immediately are Halo, Halo 2, Jet Set Radio 2, Voodoo Vince, Fable..and if I wanted to stretch it further I GUESS I could put KOTOR, and Morrowind. All I'm saying is that the system never interested me personally. The Gamecube and the PS2 both had better exclusive lineups for me.
#7 Posted by MicrosoftVP_Ted (77 posts) -
[QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"][QUOTE="wiicube64"]

I personally can't. While the Xbox was a fine system, its few great exclusives can't match the PS2's HUGE list of amazing content. Also, I like RPGs so its easy to see why I would prefer the PS2.

wiicube64
There are Rpgs on the Xbox, and few exclusives is a misinformation. I would suggest further research.

There are RPGs on the Xbox but certainly not as many as there are on the PS2, especially when we're talking JRPGs. The only exclusives that ever interested me on the Xbox that come to mind immediately are Halo, Halo 2, Jet Set Radio 2, Voodoo Vince, Fable..and if I wanted to stretch it further I GUESS I could put KOTOR, and Morrowind. All I'm saying is that the system never interested me personally. The Gamecube and the PS2 both had better exclusive lineups for me.

I would say they are pretty near eachother in the Rpgs department, PS2 lacks Wrpgs severely. Fable isn't really an exclusive.
#8 Posted by Emerald_Warrior (6581 posts) -

[QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"][QUOTE="wiicube64"]

I personally can't. While the Xbox was a fine system, its few great exclusives can't match the PS2's HUGE list of amazing content. Also, I like RPGs so its easy to see why I would prefer the PS2.

wiicube64

There are Rpgs on the Xbox, and few exclusives is a misinformation. I would suggest further research.

There are RPGs on the Xbox but certainly not as many as there are on the PS2, especially when we're talking JRPGs. The only exclusives that ever interested me on the Xbox that come to mind immediately are Halo, Halo 2, Jet Set Radio 2, Voodoo Vince, Fable..and if I wanted to stretch it further I GUESS I could put KOTOR, and Morrowind. All I'm saying is that the system never interested me personally. The Gamecube and the PS2 both had better exclusive lineups for me.

Much better RPGS on the XBox, IMO. Action RPGS are much more fun than the now cliched JRPG genre, and the XBox was full of them:

  • Arx Fatalis
  • Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
  • Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II
  • Dungeons & Dragons: Heroes
  • The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
  • Fable
  • Jade Empire
  • Justice League: Heroes
  • Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
  • Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
  • Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
  • X-Men Legends
  • X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse

Between all those action-RPGs, and other awesome exclusives like Halo 1 & 2, Ninja Gaiden, MechAssault 1 & 2, and Crimson Skies; it was my console of choice during that generation after the Dreamcast fizzled out. The XBox Live was LEAGUES ahead of the competion in the online department. And on top of all of that, XBox usually always had the best version of multiplatform games.

Nowdays, all the 6th generation systems are so cheap, that's it's worth owning them all. Because they all have great exclusives and libraries of games.

#9 Posted by BarbaricAvatar (977 posts) -

I like to envision the Xbox as the only quality entertainment interactive on the market the 6th generation of gaming consoles, and it is so. While not to far off from the PS2 library, would you agree that exclusives and shared with others, that the Xbox simply had more quality assured than the PS2? You can talk about quantity, however, tons of games in genres that the PS2 is not strong act are sub-par compared to the engaging experience on the Xbox other than japanese developed Action-Adventure and Role-playing titles, which at the time were all very similar and are not actually relevant.MicrosoftVP_Ted

 

Not really, no.

While the PS2 has plenty of crap on offer, the good stuff will still outnumber those on XBox simply because of larger quantities overall.

And even though i haven't checked, i'm sure the XBox has its fair share of crap too. Probably with a similar ratio to PS2 just involving smaller numbers.

I don't understand why such a fuss is made over exclusives, i don't miss what i can't have. And those which are exclusive usually have something similar on the other system anyway.

Where the XBox beat the PS2 was in the graphics department.

#10 Posted by Shenmue_Jehuty (5207 posts) -

[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

The XBOX had better graphics, no doubt about it, but the amount of quality games on the PS2 outnumber the amount on the original XBOX 5 to 1, if not 10 to 1. I love the original XBOX, but doesn't compete in quality, at least in terms of overall great games on each respective system.

MicrosoftVP_Ted

With the PS2 having slightly over 1000 or so more games, I do not see how you get 10 to one when most of the PS2 games that aren't bad when you keep digging through the library are usually shared with something else. Unless I am reading the game lists wrong. I will say the PS2 did become quite a seller, the First Playstation proved to be quite beneficial, in that as well as no real competition and DVD at launch,

I'm pretty sure you're the same guy who was banned about a month ago for making a similar argument (possibly Another48Hours) so I'm not going to get into with you. There are over 10,000 PS2 games released since it launched (look it up if you don't believe me), and even if you say only 500 are worth owning, it still dwarfs the XBOX in that department. I'm done with this thread now.

#11 Posted by Emerald_Warrior (6581 posts) -

I'm pretty sure you're the same guy who was banned about a month ago for making a similar argument (possibly Another48Hours) so I'm not going to get into with you.

Shenmue_Jehuty

Isn't it sad that we have to screen like every new member to the Legacy Platforms forum now? 48 really screwed things up here.

#12 Posted by MicrosoftVP_Ted (77 posts) -

[QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"]I like to envision the Xbox as the only quality entertainment interactive on the market the 6th generation of gaming consoles, and it is so. While not to far off from the PS2 library, would you agree that exclusives and shared with others, that the Xbox simply had more quality assured than the PS2? You can talk about quantity, however, tons of games in genres that the PS2 is not strong act are sub-par compared to the engaging experience on the Xbox other than japanese developed Action-Adventure and Role-playing titles, which at the time were all very similar and are not actually relevant.BarbaricAvatar

 

Not really, no.

While the PS2 has plenty of crap on offer, the good stuff will still outnumber those on XBox simply because of larger quantities overall.

And even though i haven't checked, i'm sure the XBox has its fair share of crap too. Probably with a similar ratio to PS2 just involving smaller numbers.

I don't understand why such a fuss is made over exclusives, i don't miss what i can't have. And those which are exclusive usually have something similar on the other system anyway.

Where the XBox beat the PS2 was in the graphics department.

That's not even close to how it works. Most of the PS2's highest rated games are chared witht he Xbox which usually runs better. Heck, the PS2's best selling game has more features (If I recall) and runs better, and looks better, and has a consistent frame rate.
#13 Posted by MicrosoftVP_Ted (77 posts) -

[QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"][QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

The XBOX had better graphics, no doubt about it, but the amount of quality games on the PS2 outnumber the amount on the original XBOX 5 to 1, if not 10 to 1. I love the original XBOX, but doesn't compete in quality, at least in terms of overall great games on each respective system.

Shenmue_Jehuty

With the PS2 having slightly over 1000 or so more games, I do not see how you get 10 to one when most of the PS2 games that aren't bad when you keep digging through the library are usually shared with something else. Unless I am reading the game lists wrong. I will say the PS2 did become quite a seller, the First Playstation proved to be quite beneficial, in that as well as no real competition and DVD at launch,

I'm pretty sure you're the same guy who was banned about a month ago for making a similar argument (possibly Another48Hours) so I'm not going to get into with you. There are over 10,000 PS2 games released since it launched (look it up if you don't believe me), and even if you say only 500 are worth owning, it still dwarfs the XBOX in that department. I'm done with this thread now.

You do know that the 10,000 includes outer-language names, bundles, and some other things right? Realistically, yes the PS2 has over 2,000 or so games, and I never denied that it had the bigger library. I am asking if you would put the Xbox quality over the Xboxes quality, and I was addressing your 10-1 which makes no logical sense when a large portion of PS2 games formed from a random list will likely be shared on the Xbox. So thank you for answering the thread, your answer is no.
#14 Posted by Shenmue_Jehuty (5207 posts) -

[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

I'm pretty sure you're the same guy who was banned about a month ago for making a similar argument (possibly Another48Hours) so I'm not going to get into with you.

Emerald_Warrior

Isn't it sad that we have to screen like every new member to the Legacy Platforms forum now? 48 really screwed things up here.

It really is :/. I remember when Legacy Forum was relatively troll free and we all just discussed our love of gaming without idiots making ridiculous claims, arguments and the like. I wish GS could do more to just find out who Another48Hours is and ban his IP so we can all carry on again. He's probably some pathetic loser who rides his bike to the library for the soul purpose of creating troll accounts here in order to make himself feel less like a pathetic loser . . .

#15 Posted by AzatiS (7639 posts) -
What are you talking about bro? Ps2 had both quality and quantity... Its for a reason why PS2 still sells as we speak ...
#16 Posted by Shenmue_Jehuty (5207 posts) -

[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

[QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"] With the PS2 having slightly over 1000 or so more games, I do not see how you get 10 to one when most of the PS2 games that aren't bad when you keep digging through the library are usually shared with something else. Unless I am reading the game lists wrong. I will say the PS2 did become quite a seller, the First Playstation proved to be quite beneficial, in that as well as no real competition and DVD at launch,MicrosoftVP_Ted

I'm pretty sure you're the same guy who was banned about a month ago for making a similar argument (possibly Another48Hours) so I'm not going to get into with you. There are over 10,000 PS2 games released since it launched (look it up if you don't believe me), and even if you say only 500 are worth owning, it still dwarfs the XBOX in that department. I'm done with this thread now.

You do know that the 10,000 includes outer-language names, bundles, and some other things right? Realistically, yes the PS2 has over 2,000 or so games, and I never denied that it had the bigger library. I am asking if you would put the Xbox quality over the Xboxes quality, and I was addressing your 10-1 which makes no logical sense when a large portion of PS2 games formed from a random list will likely be shared on the Xbox. So thank you for answering the thread, your answer is no.

Have your fun while it lasts, I just reported you :)

#17 Posted by MicrosoftVP_Ted (77 posts) -

[QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"][QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

I'm pretty sure you're the same guy who was banned about a month ago for making a similar argument (possibly Another48Hours) so I'm not going to get into with you. There are over 10,000 PS2 games released since it launched (look it up if you don't believe me), and even if you say only 500 are worth owning, it still dwarfs the XBOX in that department. I'm done with this thread now.

Shenmue_Jehuty

You do know that the 10,000 includes outer-language names, bundles, and some other things right? Realistically, yes the PS2 has over 2,000 or so games, and I never denied that it had the bigger library. I am asking if you would put the Xbox quality over the Xboxes quality, and I was addressing your 10-1 which makes no logical sense when a large portion of PS2 games formed from a random list will likely be shared on the Xbox. So thank you for answering the thread, your answer is no.

Have your fun while it lasts, I just reported you :)

You reported me for having an opinion?
#18 Posted by MicrosoftVP_Ted (77 posts) -
What are you talking about bro? Ps2 had both quality and quantity... Its for a reason why PS2 still sells as we speak ...AzatiS
I wouldn't use a sell argument, but I will say that the PS2 was discontinued unless you know something I don't? I don't mind you liking the PS2 btw, I think the vibe of this thread got disrupted by Shenmue,
#19 Posted by GreySeal9 (24411 posts) -

You're assuming that other people think Xbox has the "quality". I don't buy that assumption whatsoever. For me, PS2 is better both quantity and quality-wise.

Also, you don't get to decide what was relevant, and the JRPGs and action-adventure titles on the PS2 were not all similar, certainly not any more similar than any other genre.

#20 Posted by MicrosoftVP_Ted (77 posts) -

You're assuming that other people think Xbox has the "quality". I don't buy that assumption whatsoever. For me, PS2 is better both quantity and quality-wise.

GreySeal9
I actually meant it to be saying "If you think the Xbox has quality over the PS2's quality" but I can only do so much with the title. I explain it a bit in the OP. Also at that time no other system had Final Fantasy, so your choice makes sense. I do always wonder how X would look with less jaggy Xbox hardware and less music compression.
#21 Posted by rilpas (8222 posts) -
Though the Xbox has some great exclusives, most of the game that interest me were ported to the PC, so for that reason alone I choose the PS2 if we don't count the PC into the equation then it becomes a bit harder as I prefer WRPGs over JRPGs
#22 Posted by Dudersaper (32949 posts) -
I wouldn't put the XBOX's quality over PS2's quantity because it doesn't outweigh the quantity/quality of the PS2's library. Not to say the XBOX's library is poor, it's pretty great. Just depends on the genres you're looking for. But for the best experience, just get both.
#23 Posted by MicrosoftVP_Ted (77 posts) -
[QUOTE="Dudersaper"]I wouldn't put the XBOX's quality over PS2's quantity because it doesn't outweigh the quantity/quality of the PS2's library. Not to say the XBOX's library is poor, it's pretty great. Just depends on the genres you're looking for. But for the best experience, just get both.

I don't particularly think either console is really lacking in genres other than opposing Rpg departments don't you think? II do agree both is exponentially the best way. If you can find an Xbox for cheap online which is hard to do, PS2's seem cheaper.
#24 Posted by rilpas (8222 posts) -

[QUOTE="Dudersaper"]I wouldn't put the XBOX's quality over PS2's quantity because it doesn't outweigh the quantity/quality of the PS2's library. Not to say the XBOX's library is poor, it's pretty great. Just depends on the genres you're looking for. But for the best experience, just get both.MicrosoftVP_Ted
I don't particularly think either console is really lacking in genres other than opposing Rpg departments don't you think? II do agree both is exponentially the best way. If you can find an Xbox for cheap online which is hard to do, PS2's seem cheaper.

not that I care for the genre, but the Xbox isn't famous for its platformers

#25 Posted by jake44 (2021 posts) -
[QUOTE="Dudersaper"]I wouldn't put the XBOX's quality over PS2's quantity because it doesn't outweigh the quantity/quality of the PS2's library. Not to say the XBOX's library is poor, it's pretty great. Just depends on the genres you're looking for. But for the best experience, just get both.

#26 Posted by lazyathew (3748 posts) -

Personally, I think Xbox is the worst of the three by far. Don't get me wrong, it has good games, I just prefer the libraries of either the PS2 or Gamecube.

I should point out, however, that Xbox introduced one of my favorite game series: Ninja Gaiden. (It dubuted on the NES technically, but the Xbox rebooted it with a completely new style) I never played the Xbox version though. I only played Sigma on PS3. Mainly because I never had an Xbox. I now have a 360, and I have played some Xbox games with it's BC. But last Gen Xbox was the only way to play Ninja Gaiden. I never realised just how awesome that game is until this gen, lol.

#27 Posted by Jag85 (4584 posts) -

I like to envision the Xbox as the only quality entertainment interactive on the market the 6th generation of gaming consoles, and it is so. While not to far off from the PS2 library, would you agree that exclusives and shared with others, that the Xbox simply had more quality assured than the PS2? You can talk about quantity, however, tons of games in genres that the PS2 is not strong act are sub-par compared to the engaging experience on the Xbox other than japanese developed Action-Adventure and Role-playing titles, which at the time were all very similar and are not actually relevant.MicrosoftVP_Ted
I'd have to disagree. Like most others, I'd have to say the PS2 was superior to the Xbox in both quality and quantity. The only other console back then that came close to the PS2 in quality was the Dreamcast before its demise.

And for your information, action-adventures and RPG's on the PS2 were extremely diverse and two of the best-selling genres at the time, so they were very "relevant" at the time.

Don't get me wrong. I loved the Xbox back then, and it was probably my second most used console of that generation, after the PS2. But the thing is that I most often used the Xbox as a media player, while most of the games I played on it were often just better-looking multi-plats also available on the PS2.

#28 Posted by Blueresident87 (5339 posts) -

I might, because XBox did have some very good games.

#29 Posted by logicalfrank (1641 posts) -

I like my Xbox over the PS2. Mostly, I just like the controller better to be honest and that is a huge thing for me. Sound is about the same and graphics are better on Xbox but I don't really care about graphics aside from how they affect gameplay. The controller is a much bigger difference. We can argue all day about more games, percentage of good games vs. bad and all that but as far as I'm concerned, either of these systems has enough great games to last me a decade so I'm not too worried about it.

#30 Posted by CPX7700 (21 posts) -
Anything the Xbox had over the PS2 was better on the PC anyway. Halo 1, 2, Half-Life 2, most of them were more fun on the PC. The PS2 had more actual exclusives like Gran Turismo 3/4, Ratchet and Clank, the Katamari games, Ico, and many others. It's one of the few consoles that are worth owning for a serious PC gamer like me.
#31 Posted by CaptainGamespot (609 posts) -

I like to envision the Xbox as the only quality entertainment interactive on the market the 6th generation of gaming consoles, and it is so. While not to far off from the PS2 library, would you agree that exclusives and shared with others, that the Xbox simply had more quality assured than the PS2? You can talk about quantity, however, tons of games in genres that the PS2 is not strong act are sub-par compared to the engaging experience on the Xbox other than japanese developed Action-Adventure and Role-playing titles, which at the time were all very similar and are not actually relevant.MicrosoftVP_Ted

f*** no, I would never do that. I bought an xbox, loved it, supported it, bought xbox live, bought every AAA title, even some AA titles. 

Can't top the ps2 library though, can't even touch it. Sony had soo many exclusive 1st party games and 3rd party games to ignore.

ps2 had too much high ranking quality games and obviously quantity of games. ps2 was a beast. 

it's not a quality vs. quanity equation, as ps2 had both titles.

#32 Posted by MicrosoftVP_Ted (77 posts) -

[QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"]I like to envision the Xbox as the only quality entertainment interactive on the market the 6th generation of gaming consoles, and it is so. While not to far off from the PS2 library, would you agree that exclusives and shared with others, that the Xbox simply had more quality assured than the PS2? You can talk about quantity, however, tons of games in genres that the PS2 is not strong act are sub-par compared to the engaging experience on the Xbox other than japanese developed Action-Adventure and Role-playing titles, which at the time were all very similar and are not actually relevant.CaptainGamespot

f*** no, I would never do that. I bought an xbox, loved it, supported it, bought xbox live, bought every AAA title, even some AA titles. 

Can't top the ps2 library though, can't even touch it. Sony had soo many exclusive 1st party games and 3rd party games to ignore.

ps2 had too much high ranking quality games and obviously quantity of games. ps2 was a beast. 

it's not a quality vs. quanity equation, as ps2 had both titles.

I would disagree with a large first-party, that didn't really happen until this gen. Also, the thread title is a bit misleading I meant if you think the Xbox had quality would you put it over the PS2, there was just not enough space. Here is random comparison using Gamespot Comparison: PS2:775 A, AA, and AAA+ games. More than that under 5.0 Xbox:462 A, AA, and AAA+ games. Less than that under 5.0 Gamecube:256 A, AA, and AAA+ games. More than that under 5.0 Dreamcast::135 A, AA, and AAA+ games. More than that under 5.0
#33 Posted by Dudersaper (32949 posts) -
Yeah but gamespots scores won't make people magically put the XBOX's quality over the others, It's a useless argument. And the PS2 had plenty of first party support during both the PS1 and PS2 eras, dunno where you get the idea it only got large support this gen.
#34 Posted by Kaszilla (1718 posts) -

[QUOTE="wiicube64"][QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"] There are Rpgs on the Xbox, and few exclusives is a misinformation. I would suggest further research.Emerald_Warrior

There are RPGs on the Xbox but certainly not as many as there are on the PS2, especially when we're talking JRPGs. The only exclusives that ever interested me on the Xbox that come to mind immediately are Halo, Halo 2, Jet Set Radio 2, Voodoo Vince, Fable..and if I wanted to stretch it further I GUESS I could put KOTOR, and Morrowind. All I'm saying is that the system never interested me personally. The Gamecube and the PS2 both had better exclusive lineups for me.

Much better RPGS on the XBox, IMO. Action RPGS are much more fun than the now cliched JRPG genre, and the XBox was full of them:

  • Arx Fatalis
  • Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
  • Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II
  • Dungeons & Dragons: Heroes
  • The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
  • Fable
  • Jade Empire
  • Justice League: Heroes
  • Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
  • Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
  • Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
  • X-Men Legends
  • X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse

Between all those action-RPGs, and other awesome exclusives like Halo 1 & 2, Ninja Gaiden, MechAssault 1 & 2, and Crimson Skies; it was my console of choice during that generation after the Dreamcast fizzled out. The XBox Live was LEAGUES ahead of the competion in the online department. And on top of all of that, XBox usually always had the best version of multiplatform games.

Nowdays, all the 6th generation systems are so cheap, that's it's worth owning them all. Because they all have great exclusives and libraries of games.

FINALLY someone mentioned Mechassault! Those games are the reason along with JSRF that I just recently purchased an xbox.
#35 Posted by MicrosoftVP_Ted (77 posts) -
[QUOTE="Dudersaper"]Yeah but gamespots scores won't make people magically put the XBOX's quality over the others, It's a useless argument. And the PS2 had plenty of first party support during both the PS1 and PS2 eras, dunno where you get the idea it only got large support this gen.

I don't know what you read, my list clearly shows the PS2 has more A+ games on gamespot, the only point I was proving is that the Xbox had more over all others except the PS2, but was the only one with less games rated under 5.0. I am not sure how you got I put the Xbox's quality over all the others.
#36 Posted by Emerald_Warrior (6581 posts) -

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

[QUOTE="wiicube64"] There are RPGs on the Xbox but certainly not as many as there are on the PS2, especially when we're talking JRPGs. The only exclusives that ever interested me on the Xbox that come to mind immediately are Halo, Halo 2, Jet Set Radio 2, Voodoo Vince, Fable..and if I wanted to stretch it further I GUESS I could put KOTOR, and Morrowind. All I'm saying is that the system never interested me personally. The Gamecube and the PS2 both had better exclusive lineups for me.Kaszilla

Much better RPGS on the XBox, IMO. Action RPGS are much more fun than the now cliched JRPG genre, and the XBox was full of them:

  • Arx Fatalis
  • Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
  • Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II
  • Dungeons & Dragons: Heroes
  • The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
  • Fable
  • Jade Empire
  • Justice League: Heroes
  • Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
  • Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
  • Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
  • X-Men Legends
  • X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse

Between all those action-RPGs, and other awesome exclusives like Halo 1 & 2, Ninja Gaiden, MechAssault 1 & 2, and Crimson Skies; it was my console of choice during that generation after the Dreamcast fizzled out. The XBox Live was LEAGUES ahead of the competion in the online department. And on top of all of that, XBox usually always had the best version of multiplatform games.

Nowdays, all the 6th generation systems are so cheap, that's it's worth owning them all. Because they all have great exclusives and libraries of games.

FINALLY someone mentioned Mechassault! Those games are the reason along with JSRF that I just recently purchased an xbox.

Oh yeah, some of the best games on the XBox.

The reason I purchased my XBox was Morrowind, by far. The game was absolutely stunning in all areas when it came out. And to a lesser degree, Halo also made me purchase it because it was a social event amongst me and my friends.

All the exlusives after that (such as MechAssault) I discovered.

#37 Posted by Kaszilla (1718 posts) -
Anything the Xbox had over the PS2 was better on the PC anyway. Halo 1, 2, Half-Life 2, most of them were more fun on the PC. The PS2 had more actual exclusives like Gran Turismo 3/4, Ratchet and Clank, the Katamari games, Ico, and many others. It's one of the few consoles that are worth owning for a serious PC gamer like me.CPX7700
OMG the xbox actually has exclusives, why does everyone think it only has PC ports? I guess I'm one of the few that actually bought its great exclusives..
#38 Posted by Dudersaper (32949 posts) -

the only point I was proving is that the Xbox had more over all others except the PS2, but was the only one with less games rated under 5.0.MicrosoftVP_Ted
That's exactly what I read, and it was exactly what I was replying to.

I'm just saying that the point you're trying to prove won't really make anybody re-think their opinions. Because it's obvious the PS2 is gonna have more games under 5.0 when it has much more games. The chances for below average games are higher the more games you have in a library. And still, that means little to nothing as long as the good games are good.

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#39 Posted by MicrosoftVP_Ted (77 posts) -

[QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"] the only point I was proving is that the Xbox had more over all others except the PS2, but was the only one with less games rated under 5.0.Dudersaper

That's exactly what I read, and it was exactly what I was replying to.

I'm just saying that the point you're trying to prove won't really make anybody re-think their opinions. Because it's obvious the PS2 is gonna have more games under 5.0 when it has much more games. The chances for below average games are higher the more games you have in a library. And still, that means little to nothing as long as the good games are good.

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Yeah, but then why does the Gamecube have half the Xbox library but the Xbox has more games but still has less 5.0 under games? But you are right, I enjoy some 5.0 games myself, which usually involve shooting games, not including TPS or FPS of course. I know I am not changing anyones minds, like my legendary 2600, the PS2 has been around for 3 generations and putting out games left and right, I can't deattache people from it, I am just saying people should give it a chance, stop ignoring it, and stop thinking the only game it has is Halo, with proof that it has more than Halo.
#40 Posted by Kaszilla (1718 posts) -
[QUOTE="Dudersaper"]

[QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"] the only point I was proving is that the Xbox had more over all others except the PS2, but was the only one with less games rated under 5.0.MicrosoftVP_Ted

That's exactly what I read, and it was exactly what I was replying to.

I'm just saying that the point you're trying to prove won't really make anybody re-think their opinions. Because it's obvious the PS2 is gonna have more games under 5.0 when it has much more games. The chances for below average games are higher the more games you have in a library. And still, that means little to nothing as long as the good games are good.

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Yeah, but then why does the Gamecube have half the Xbox library but the Xbox has more games but still has less 5.0 under games? But you are right, I enjoy some 5.0 games myself, which usually involve shooting games, not including TPS or FPS of course. I know I am not changing anyones minds, like my legendary 2600, the PS2 has been around for 3 generations and putting out games left and right, I can't deattache people from it, I am just saying people should give it a chance, stop ignoring it, and stop thinking the only game it has is Halo, with proof that it has more than Halo.

I never even played halo on the xbox and I still love it.
#41 Posted by Dudersaper (32949 posts) -
Oh I definetly agree with you there, I think both the XBOX and PS2 are amazing consoles and both deserve the attention. And yes, I've found myself enjoying plenty of games that were poorly rated by Gamespot (or other sites), so I just use reviews to get a look at the gameplay, hear what they say, but still give it a chance if it interests me enough despite it getting a poor rating (if the case)
#42 Posted by good_sk8er7 (4322 posts) -

Ps2 just had amazing games. Lots of amazing games. 

#43 Posted by SolidTy (43710 posts) -

I wouldn't, but I had a damn fine time LANing my Xbox's throughout my house to play HALO/Splinter Cell etc. I still own Steel Battalion. Dug every single exclusive I could get my hands on.

That said, I can't say those experiences could top the PS2's quantity or quality I got last gen. Even Sony's 1st party was amazing last gen from God of War to ICO to Jak to Sly Cooper to Champions of Norrath 1/2 to ATV offroad to Ratchet to Gran Turismo 3/4 to Primal to Mr. Mosquito to Ape Escape to Dark Cloud 1/2 to Rogue Galaxy to Shadow of the Colossus to Tourist Trophy to SOCOM to War of the Monsters to Singstar to MLB the Show to Twisted Metal Black and many more I'm just forgetting...it was a fantastic ride.

I'm being unfair to the 3rd party exclusives as well. From Tekken to DMC to Onimusha to Ace Combat to Final Fantasy to Castlevania : Lament of Innocence to Metal Gear Solid 3 to Okami to Maximo...it was amazing.

#44 Posted by NodakJo2010 (1060 posts) -

[QUOTE="wiicube64"]

I personally can't. While the Xbox was a fine system, its few great exclusives can't match the PS2's HUGE list of amazing content. Also, I like RPGs so its easy to see why I would prefer the PS2.

MicrosoftVP_Ted

There are Rpgs on the Xbox, and few exclusives is a misinformation. I would suggest further research.

Your system war tactics can't fool me! :cool:

#45 Posted by jsmoke03 (12923 posts) -

[QUOTE="wiicube64"][QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"] There are Rpgs on the Xbox, and few exclusives is a misinformation. I would suggest further research.Emerald_Warrior

There are RPGs on the Xbox but certainly not as many as there are on the PS2, especially when we're talking JRPGs. The only exclusives that ever interested me on the Xbox that come to mind immediately are Halo, Halo 2, Jet Set Radio 2, Voodoo Vince, Fable..and if I wanted to stretch it further I GUESS I could put KOTOR, and Morrowind. All I'm saying is that the system never interested me personally. The Gamecube and the PS2 both had better exclusive lineups for me.

Much better RPGS on the XBox, IMO. Action RPGS are much more fun than the now cliched JRPG genre, and the XBox was full of them:

  • Arx Fatalis
  • Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
  • Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II
  • Dungeons & Dragons: Heroes
  • The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
  • Fable
  • Jade Empire
  • Justice League: Heroes
  • Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
  • Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
  • Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
  • X-Men Legends
  • X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse

Between all those action-RPGs, and other awesome exclusives like Halo 1 & 2, Ninja Gaiden, MechAssault 1 & 2, and Crimson Skies; it was my console of choice during that generation after the Dreamcast fizzled out. The XBox Live was LEAGUES ahead of the competion in the online department. And on top of all of that, XBox usually always had the best version of multiplatform games.

Nowdays, all the 6th generation systems are so cheap, that's it's worth owning them all. Because they all have great exclusives and libraries of games.

i dont think a lot of those are exclusives. you can find a couple of those on the ps2.

also gotta say, ps2 is not all about quantity...there was a lot of quality there.

#46 Posted by Seabas989 (10378 posts) -

All I'm gonna say is PS2 >>> Xbox.

#47 Posted by beatrev791 (12 posts) -
Not anymore, I couldn't even really tell the difference now a days. I'd rather have a ton of cheap titles to play so there's more variety and won't get bored as easily
#48 Posted by Jag85 (4584 posts) -

[QUOTE="wiicube64"][QUOTE="MicrosoftVP_Ted"] There are Rpgs on the Xbox, and few exclusives is a misinformation. I would suggest further research.Emerald_Warrior

There are RPGs on the Xbox but certainly not as many as there are on the PS2, especially when we're talking JRPGs. The only exclusives that ever interested me on the Xbox that come to mind immediately are Halo, Halo 2, Jet Set Radio 2, Voodoo Vince, Fable..and if I wanted to stretch it further I GUESS I could put KOTOR, and Morrowind. All I'm saying is that the system never interested me personally. The Gamecube and the PS2 both had better exclusive lineups for me.

Much better RPGS on the XBox, IMO. Action RPGS are much more fun than the now cliched JRPG genre, and the XBox was full of them:

  • Arx Fatalis
  • Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
  • Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II
  • Champions of Norrath
  • Dungeons & Dragons: Heroes
  • The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
  • Fable
  • Jade Empire
  • Justice League: Heroes
  • Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
  • Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
  • Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
  • X-Men Legends
  • X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse

Between all those action-RPGs, and other awesome exclusives like Halo 1 & 2, Ninja Gaiden, MechAssault 1 & 2, and Crimson Skies; it was my console of choice during that generation after the Dreamcast fizzled out. The XBox Live was LEAGUES ahead of the competion in the online department. And on top of all of that, XBox usually always had the best version of multiplatform games.

Nowdays, all the 6th generation systems are so cheap, that's it's worth owning them all. Because they all have great exclusives and libraries of games.

PS2 was the king of the Action RPG genre:

  • Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance I & II
  • Chaos Legion
  • Dark Cloud 1 & 2
  • Drakengard 1 & 2
  • Dual Hearts
  • Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel
  • .Hack series
  • Justice League: Heroes
  • Final Fantasy XII
  • Kingdom Hearts I & II
  • Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
  • King's Field IV
  • Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
  • Odin Sphere
  • Orphen: Scion of Sorcery
  • Phantasy Star Universe
  • Radiata Stories
  • Rogue Galaxy
  • Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner 1 & 2
  • Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
  • Steambot Chronicles
  • Summoner
  • Tales of Destiny 1 & 2
  • Tales of Symphonia
  • Tales of Rebirth
  • Tales of Legendia
  • Tales of the Abyss
  • X-Men Legends I & II
  • Ys I & II: Eternal Story
  • Ys III: Wanderers from Ys
  • Ys IV: Mask of the Sun
  • Ys V: Kefin, The Lost City of Sand
  • Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim

So yeah, I'd say the PS2 was superior to the Xbox when it came to nearly all sub-genres of RPG, whether action RPG, turn-based RPG, tactical RPG, etc. The only type of RPG the Xbox may have had an upper hand in was the "Computer RPG" (i.e. "Western RPG" as it known today).

#49 Posted by Emerald_Warrior (6581 posts) -

^ Touche.

But all those games put together still don't come close to Morrowind.

#50 Posted by Seabas989 (10378 posts) -

^ Touche.

But all those games put together still don't come close to Morrowind.

Emerald_Warrior

Odin Sphere alone >>> Morrowind. And you know what I think about Morrowind. :P