They're not real; they're pixelated. On top of that, these PETA types have no problem mass murdering hundreds of humans, but if you kill that one attack dog, you're bad?
First off, logic and PETA don't go well together. Secondly, I don't know for other people, but I know for myself, I find it more disturbing when animals get killed in movies and games because they're innocent. When you see people getting killed, or kill enemies in video games they're usually the "bad guys" and they're just getting what they asked for.
Secondly, I don't know for other people, but I know for myself, I find it more disturbing when animals get killed in movies and games because they're innocent. When you see people getting killed, or kill enemies in video games they're usually the "bad guys" and they're just getting what they asked for.
The "Logic' part was sarcasm.
I think people need to grow thicker skin regarding killing non-existent, pixelated animals in games. I can understand movies, but if you're getting mad about it in games, my only response is LOL.
Because people care more about animals than people. Still, it's stupid since everything in games is fake. I'd go so far as to say even children should be viable targets for our Erage.
Because people care more about animals than people. Still, it's stupid since everything in games is fake. I'd go so far as to say even children should be viable targets for our Erage.
I'm jealous of PC gamers because they can mod their Skyrim and do freaking suplexes on those pretentious asshole kids in Whiterun. How I would love to just kick one in the nuts.
Because people care more about animals than people. Still, it's stupid since everything in games is fake. I'd go so far as to say even children should be viable targets for our Erage.
I'm jealous of PC gamers because they can mod their Skyrim and do freaking suplexes on those pretentious asshole kids in Whiterun. How I would love to just kick one in the nuts.
@gamerguru100 said:
@ariabed said:
Do these people really exist?
Yes. There are certainly people that are bothered by killing pixels in the shape of animals.
I suppose people can be sickened by something they see in a movie so kinda works the same way in a game no?
This argument is getting dumber every year. Yes, video games aren't real, just like movies and fictional books aren't real. However, we can still feel emotions from games...just like books and movies.
When I'm forced to kill people in The Walking Dead game, I don't say "They're just pixels, so who cares!" Sorry, but I find that really stupid. A lot of people don't feel comfortable killing dogs because animals don't share the same intelligence and morals that humans do. For many, it's easier to justify killing a bad guy who made poor decisions then a dog who's just there doing the bad guys bidding.
Because people care more about animals than people. Still, it's stupid since everything in games is fake. I'd go so far as to say even children should be viable targets for our Erage.
I'm jealous of PC gamers because they can mod their Skyrim and do freaking suplexes on those pretentious asshole kids in Whiterun. How I would love to just kick one in the nuts.
@gamerguru100 said:
@ariabed said:
Do these people really exist?
Yes. There are certainly people that are bothered by killing pixels in the shape of animals.
I suppose people can be sickened by something they see in a movie so kinda works the same way in a game no?
Not really IMO. In non-animated movies, there may be an actual animal acting, so a death scene can have impact on a viewer. In a game, the animals are already lifeless, robotic, and pixelated, do idgaf.
@gamerguru100: Yeah it doesn't really bother me in games. You gotta do what you gotta do, especially if you want to increase your ammo pouch or wallet size.
A female friend was watching me play Far Cry 4 one day and a big ole tiger came at me and I killed it. She said "poor kitty" like I should have let it eat me haha.
This argument is getting dumber every year. Yes, video games aren't real, just like movies and fictional books aren't real. However, we can still feel emotions from games...just like books and movies.
When I'm forced to kill people in The Walking Dead game, I don't say "They're just pixels, so who cares!" Sorry, but I find that really stupid. A lot of people don't feel comfortable killing dogs because animals don't share the same intelligence and morals that humans do. For many, it's easier to justify killing a bad guy who made poor decisions then a dog who's just there doing the bad guys bidding.
True, but I as a gamer give zero fucks about killing animals. It doesn't phase me at all.
I'm sure there is the odd group of people out there that find fun in mass murdering civilians in games, yet get upset if an animal comes into their sights. I just find it all hypocritical regardless of the emotional aspect.
@gamerguru100: Yeah it doesn't really bother me in games. You gotta do what you gotta do, especially if you want to increase your ammo pouch or wallet size.
Damn straight. Getting all those weapon pouches is one of the highest priorities in Far Cry. :P Gotta have four weapon pouches for four different weapon types, damn it!
This argument is getting dumber every year. Yes, video games aren't real, just like movies and fictional books aren't real. However, we can still feel emotions from games...just like books and movies.
This argument is getting dumber every year. Yes, video games aren't real, just like movies and fictional books aren't real. However, we can still feel emotions from games...just like books and movies.
I still find it hypocritical nonetheless. If you're fine with murdering civilians or hundreds of "bad guys", then a few animals shouldn't have that big of an effect on you.
@gamerguru100: i guess everyone has a limit to what they would like to see and do in a game, and these days games are looking increasingly more realistic.
I mean if it was possible would you randomly kill a baby in a game?
Even though the baby is just pixels its still would not be nice to see.
@gamerguru100: i guess everyone has a limit to what they would like to see and do in a game, and these days games are looking increasingly more realistic.
I mean if it was possible would you randomly kill a baby in a game?
Even though the baby is just pixels its still would not be nice to see.
I admit, babies might be my line. :P Although I still wanna drop kick those Whiterun kids into space.
@gamerguru100: That's fine and all, but have those people told you what's their vision regarding humans vs animals kills, so you can call them hypocrites? Because I don't think that word means "having an opinion different from mine".
@gamerguru100: That's fine and all, but have those people told you what's their vision regarding humans vs animals kills, so you can call them hypocrites? Because I don't think that word means "having an opinion different from mine".
You can think what you want, dude, and so can all the other "anti-killing animals in games" people.
In the end, I just think it's fucking stupid.
My frustration mostly stems from seeing multiple people on YouYube insult an uploader for killing an animal in his video game vid. It's like you either stop watching the video and piss off to cat videos or just don't be a stupid dumbass. Insulting someone for killing a virtual animal in their game on their YouYube channel is pretty goddamned low if you ask me.
Because good old Fido doesn't whine like my wife does. Because animals aren't as complicated and difficult as humans, so I can project all my personal ideals and ideas on them and then say: 'I feel Fluffy actually understands me.' Because a lot of animals can't defend themselves, verbally or physically, against the wrath of humans. Because animals are innocent and pure. Because animals don't **** up the world like humans do, which makes humans easier to dislike. Because animals generally have a higher cuteness factor.
Oh man, so many reasons to not care about violence against humans, but go berserk when someone kills an animal.
This argument is getting dumber every year. Yes, video games aren't real, just like movies and fictional books aren't real. However, we can still feel emotions from games...just like books and movies.
When I'm forced to kill people in The Walking Dead game, I don't say "They're just pixels, so who cares!" Sorry, but I find that really stupid. A lot of people don't feel comfortable killing dogs because animals don't share the same intelligence and morals that humans do. For many, it's easier to justify killing a bad guy who made poor decisions then a dog who's just there doing the bad guys bidding.
@gamerguru100: i guess everyone has a limit to what they would like to see and do in a game, and these days games are looking increasingly more realistic.
I mean if it was possible would you randomly kill a baby in a game?
Even though the baby is just pixels its still would not be nice to see.
I admit, babies might be my line. :P Although I still wanna drop kick those Whiterun kids into space.
you can fus ro dah them dam kids on consoles though
There are just certain things people aren't comfortable seeing, regardless if it's real or not. I could make a game where the protagonist is raping a digital version of your mother, and I'm sure you'd find something wrong with that, but don't fret! It's not real! It's just a video game!
@gamerguru100: i guess everyone has a limit to what they would like to see and do in a game, and these days games are looking increasingly more realistic.
I mean if it was possible would you randomly kill a baby in a game?
Even though the baby is just pixels its still would not be nice to see.
I admit, babies might be my line. :P Although I still wanna drop kick those Whiterun kids into space.
you can fus ro dah them dam kids on consoles though
But it doesn't kill them. They...must...DIE! AARGH.
@gamerguru100: i guess everyone has a limit to what they would like to see and do in a game, and these days games are looking increasingly more realistic.
I mean if it was possible would you randomly kill a baby in a game?
Even though the baby is just pixels its still would not be nice to see.
I admit, babies might be my line. :P Although I still wanna drop kick those Whiterun kids into space.
you can fus ro dah them dam kids on consoles though
But it doesn't kill them. They...must...DIE! AARGH.
:P
true, gotta take what you can get though.
You can adopt a child, then make him follow you to somewhere like the bridge at winterhold that leads to the mage college.
Then fus ro dah him off the bridge and he will fall to his death
I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that many animals are endangered, but people are all over the place. And most of the animals people hate to kill in games or see die in movies are mammals, like elephants, tigers, bears. But birds, they are everywhere as well, so usually I'm perfectly fine killing a chicken or crow in a game, but hesitate when it's a bear. I know the endangered thing doesn't take into account dogs and cats, but they are seen as close pets, so we empathize with them as if they were our own. Sure, people are close to us as well (duh), but people have a wider range of variety when it comes to personality and distinguishable features, but dogs and cats, not as much. So the gap between a criminal and our best friend is huge compared to a mean dog and a friendly dog.
Didn't care about killing animals in farcry 3 but I accidentally killed a dog in gta 5 in first person mode. It did make me sad. Oh I killed the owner too for and let pushed her off to the ocean. :p
Humans and other higher animals have this thing which they've evolved known as 'empathy'. It is not logical, but it is a survival mechanism, allowing for adoption, protection of the weak. It doesn't always serve survival when it is directed at other species (or pixellated creatures). That's just a side-effect. Not everyone is equally empathic over the same things, which is why you have some people working for the ASPCA, or wincing when they see someone else in pain (or even another creature, and even a virtual creature) while others engage in dog fighting and other activities requiring little or no empathy. Knowing that a feeling is illogical does not prevent you from feeling.
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