When did cutscenes start getting out of hand?

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#-49 Posted by getyeryayasout (6921 posts) -
I'd say when CD Rom became available, I used to love 'em back then. Now I still watch them, the thrill is gone though.
#-48 Posted by metalgrinch (455 posts) -

Cut scenes are awesome, don't hate. They are sometimes done REALLY well, give a great story, and work great as a breather between levels. As long as it's not ridiculously overdone (MGS4, i love you but im looking straight at you) then it works.

#-47 Posted by LoG-Sacrament (20397 posts) -

[QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"][QUOTE="wiouds"]

I am not the one taking game play and say that to use that show the story of the game is interactive.

wiouds

those stories are about the themes explored in the gameplay. demon's souls is about the characters' addiction to power and braid is a game about reflection. there's no other way to show that a story is interactive than to use gameplay. gameplay is interactivity.

I do not concider that game play as part of the story's plot. There are many things you can not do for the story during the game play. I have yet to see anyone get across key plot points during the game play it self.

so you either haven't played any games that use interactivity for storytelling or simply refuse to acknowledge their existence. that's not much of an argument.

stories are about more than a series of events. they need character, worlds, and motivation. the plot points of demon's souls would fall apart if there was no urge to level up. if the pursuit of power is so dangerous, why not just stop? it's because power is addicting. and even then, games can still convey key plot points as well. go play braid. there's a part at the end where the player character must "rescue the princess." i won't spoil it, but it's definitely the biggest plot point of the game and it's not a cut-scene.

#-46 Posted by ZombieKiller7 (6194 posts) -

I think part of it is that they're dumbing games down.

They think we're stupid and therefor incapable of digesting a story or plot, unless the entire game stops and "OK PRESS X TO SEE SOMETHING COOL"

They could easily incorporate plot thru NPC interaction, while not interrupting the gameplay. And it's the player's choice if they want to stop and listen to the conversation or push on down the hall.

But that would require IQ above 78 on the part of the player, to actually stop and listen.

I think ultimately what people are hungry for is to be able to play an FPS for an hour without having control jerked out of your hands every 5 minutes.

I personally found ME3 enraging, seriously I wanted to find a developer and beat them over the head with my controller. You can't even go down a 20 foot hallway without the game ripping the controller out of your hand. By the end of it I just wanted to hit somebody for ruining what could have potentially been a great experience. Thanks for wasting my life you cutscene monkies.

I'm actually very hopeful for next gen consoles to have enough RAM to not have to use cutscenes as a crutch, they could actually tell the whole story thru gameplay.

#-45 Posted by ZombieKiller7 (6194 posts) -

I do not concider that game play as part of the story's plot.

wiouds

That's what video games ARE.

That's why they're called video games, you're not watching the story you're PLAYING the story.

#-44 Posted by MrGeezer (55944 posts) -
They could easily incorporate plot thru NPC interaction, while not interrupting the gameplay. And it's the player's choice if they want to stop and listen to the conversation or push on down the hall.

But that would require IQ above 78 on the part of the player, to actually stop and listen.ZombieKiller7

Well, see, that's the thing. It seems that more often these days, developers actually ARE trying to tell a story or make some kind of point. And just like with film, it's the director's job to get that point across. If you allow the player to completely mess up the events of the story, then you've sort of failed to get your point across. And at that point, you can use a cutscene or incorporate the plot through NPC interaction, but it's basically the same thing. Either way, that's still restricting the player's freedom for the sake of telling the story.

#-43 Posted by Qraziguy (15 posts) -

Seems like a very divided issue so far...

My take: I have a very love/hate relationship with them. I think intros and endings are best when done with cutscenes. When done right, they can build suspense, as in the case of an intro, or resolution as with an ending scene. Blizzard has been referenced a couple of times, and that is fitting because they do an amazing job with their CGI. I have never once thought that they specifically should tone it down. However, when you look at something like Final Fantasy XIII, i think you can see the difference for yourself. Cutscene after cutscene after cutscene interspersed with minimal gameplay... frankly, it gets annoying.

As for storytelling, it is simple to do via gameplay. How did games like the original Final Fantasy or the original Metal Gear (NES) tell a story without them? There was very limited use of cutscenes, if any, in early games like these, so why are they praised like they are for having such good stories? Because they were able to do so without the cutscenes and CGI that modern games flaunt like excess cleavage.

Much like cleavage, it can be tastefully done, but when it crosses a certain line, you are just a slut. :cool:

#-42 Posted by Granny_Spanked (1326 posts) -

[QUOTE="wiouds"]

I do not concider that game play as part of the story's plot.

ZombieKiller7

That's what video games ARE.

That's why they're called video games, you're not watching the story you're PLAYING the story.

Whats wrong with a small amount of cutscenes? Absolutely nothing, some games use cutscenes brilliantly. Such as The Walking Dead, Infamous, Mass Effect 2, etc. The list of games that use cutscenes right, is a lot shorter than the ones that use them wrong.
#-41 Posted by nutcrackr (12296 posts) -
There is time that stories are told better when it is not interactive. Half-Life 2 was a perfect example of when cut scenes would have been better.wiouds
HL2 is widely regarded as a sublime game because of how it treats the player. You underestimate the impact of leaving the player in control of a situation as events unfold. Take an example in HL2: Episode 1. When underground in the dark, Alyx makes a zombie sound from behind, you turn around gun ready and she laughs at you. A cut scene will struggle to reproduce that.
#-40 Posted by Lulekani (2216 posts) -
[QUOTE="wiouds"]There is time that stories are told better when it is not interactive. Half-Life 2 was a perfect example of when cut scenes would have been better.nutcrackr
HL2 is widely regarded as a sublime game because of how it treats the player. You underestimate the impact of leaving the player in control of a situation as events unfold. Take an example in HL2: Episode 1. When underground in the dark, Alyx makes a zombie sound from behind, you turn around gun ready and she laughs at you. A cut scene will struggle to reproduce that.

Its so awesome it borders Magic. The E3 Demo for Bioshock Infinite was similar. When Elizabeth calls for your attention to show you something cool, she waits (temporarily) for you to face her before reacting. Imagine how difficult it was planning these types of scenarios. . . .
#-39 Posted by MrGeezer (55944 posts) -
As for storytelling, it is simple to do via gameplay. How did games like the original Final Fantasy or the original Metal Gear (NES) tell a story without them? There was very limited use of cutscenes, if any, in early games like these, so why are they praised like they are for having such good stories? Because they were able to do so without the cutscenes and CGI that modern games flaunt like excess cleavage.

Much like cleavage, it can be tastefully done, but when it crosses a certain line, you are just a slut. :cool:Qraziguy

This is a good point, but I'd just like to point something out. Games can deliver good stories with or without cut scenes, but whether or not it would have been BETTER delivered with or without cut scenes is pure speculation. One can say "this game would have been better with no cut scenes" or "this game would have been better if it had cut scenes", but that's pure guessing. No one can know, because no one got to see the comparison. It's like if you show someone a photo you took, and that person says "great picture, but it would've been better if the dude wasn't wearing his hat." How the hell would he know? YOU saw the guy without his hat, the critic DIDN'T. You as the creator have a point of comparison to work from, the other guy DOESN'T. Oh, sure it's valid for him to say "the hat isn't really working", but that's very different than saying "this would have been better with no hat." Same thing with cutscenes. I can look at something like Metal Gear Solid 4 and say that the cut scenes aren't working. But saying that it shouldn't have had cutscenes is BS. If the story had been delivered purely through gameplay, then for all I know that might not have worked either. Ultimately, all we can do is comment on what is presented to us. If it works, it works. If it doesn't work, then it doesn't work. But I think we'll find examples of good and bad storytelling (relatively speaking), in games with cut scenes AND in games without them. Just because it worked in a certain case doesn't mean that it would have worked in a different case.

#-38 Posted by wiouds (5003 posts) -

[QUOTE="wiouds"]There is time that stories are told better when it is not interactive. Half-Life 2 was a perfect example of when cut scenes would have been better.nutcrackr
HL2 is widely regarded as a sublime game because of how it treats the player. You underestimate the impact of leaving the player in control of a situation as events unfold. Take an example in HL2: Episode 1. When underground in the dark, Alyx makes a zombie sound from behind, you turn around gun ready and she laughs at you. A cut scene will struggle to reproduce that.

Yet, I would not call that as part of the story.

Half-life 2 show there are a number of things you can not do with interactive. It seem that many are overestimating what can be done with interactive elements.

I have not seen a game that tell the plot points through interactive element.

#-37 Posted by Lulekani (2216 posts) -
[QUOTE="Qraziguy"]As for storytelling, it is simple to do via gameplay. How did games like the original Final Fantasy or the original Metal Gear (NES) tell a story without them? There was very limited use of cutscenes, if any, in early games like these, so why are they praised like they are for having such good stories? Because they were able to do so without the cutscenes and CGI that modern games flaunt like excess cleavage.

Much like cleavage, it can be tastefully done, but when it crosses a certain line, you are just a slut. :cool:MrGeezer

This is a good point, but I'd just like to point something out. Games can deliver good stories with or without cut scenes, but whether or not it would have been BETTER delivered with or without cut scenes is pure speculation. One can say "this game would have been better with no cut scenes" or "this game would have been better if it had cut scenes", but that's pure guessing. No one can know, because no one got to see the comparison. It's like if you show someone a photo you took, and that person says "great picture, but it would've been better if the dude wasn't wearing his hat." How the hell would he know? YOU saw the guy without his hat, the critic DIDN'T. You as the creator have a point of comparison to work from, the other guy DOESN'T. Oh, sure it's valid for him to say "the hat isn't really working", but that's very different than saying "this would have been better with no hat." Same thing with cutscenes. I can look at something like Metal Gear Solid 4 and say that the cut scenes aren't working. But saying that it shouldn't have had cutscenes is BS. If the story had been delivered purely through gameplay, then for all I know that might not have worked either. Ultimately, all we can do is comment on what is presented to us. If it works, it works. If it doesn't work, then it doesn't work. But I think we'll find examples of good and bad storytelling (relatively speaking), in games with cut scenes AND in games without them. Just because it worked in a certain case doesn't mean that it would have worked in a different case.

Thats Totaly true. But what if we change the criteria just alil bit, what if storytelling is no longer a dominating factor for reviewing a video game ? Would that be alright with you if we judged MGS 4 by Interaction 1st and narrative 2nd ?
#-36 Posted by Lulekani (2216 posts) -

[QUOTE="nutcrackr"][QUOTE="wiouds"]There is time that stories are told better when it is not interactive. Half-Life 2 was a perfect example of when cut scenes would have been better.wiouds

HL2 is widely regarded as a sublime game because of how it treats the player. You underestimate the impact of leaving the player in control of a situation as events unfold. Take an example in HL2: Episode 1. When underground in the dark, Alyx makes a zombie sound from behind, you turn around gun ready and she laughs at you. A cut scene will struggle to reproduce that.

Yet, I would not call that as part of the story.

Half-life 2 show there are a number of things you can not do with interactive. It seem that many are overestimating what can be done with interactive elements.

I have not seen a game that tell the plot points through interactive element.

Then Play More Games, but this time go for something without cutscenes.
#-35 Posted by burgeg (3599 posts) -

Max Payne 3 has some pain in the but cheeks cut secenes

CUDGEdave

Only when you're replaying the game. Your first time through the cutscenes are absolutely fantastic, and they're a great example of how cutscenes should be done. It's only when replaying the game the problems arise. The cutscenes are great the first time, but you don't want to see them when you replay it. Often the cutscenes in MP3 take ages before you're allowed to skip them. But to be fair there wasn't any way around that considering the game didn't have any load screens. Load times were simply masked by the cutscenes.

#-34 Posted by wiouds (5003 posts) -

[QUOTE="wiouds"]

[QUOTE="nutcrackr"] HL2 is widely regarded as a sublime game because of how it treats the player. You underestimate the impact of leaving the player in control of a situation as events unfold. Take an example in HL2: Episode 1. When underground in the dark, Alyx makes a zombie sound from behind, you turn around gun ready and she laughs at you. A cut scene will struggle to reproduce that. Lulekani

Yet, I would not call that as part of the story.

Half-life 2 show there are a number of things you can not do with interactive. It seem that many are overestimating what can be done with interactive elements.

I have not seen a game that tell the plot points through interactive element.

Then Play More Games, but this time go for something without cutscenes.

I have and still have not found a decent story told through the game play.

#-33 Posted by Rattlesnake_8 (18330 posts) -
I like custscenes, and they have been around for decades.. Dune 2, Warcraft 2, C&C.. all the old classic PC games had cut scenes. Dune 2 had them, and that was before the CD ROM era.
#-32 Posted by Pedro (20994 posts) -

Square Enix is so good at cut scenes that they actualy took the time to make 2 animated Films. Infact the top Japanese Studios specialize in animation.Lulekani

Square Enix is totally incapable of making good cutscenes and I am not refering to prettiness but the ability to create an engaging story with their cutscenes.

#-31 Posted by KalDurenik (3768 posts) -
Its kinda sad on how many games follow the "cinematic button awesome" experience now days. Start game with cutscene. Walk for a few min and throw in some trash creatures that you hit or shoot (and they explode ofc). Then you get a cutscene. Walk for a min or so... Cutscene. Kill a few more evil enemies. Cut scene... Yeah... Why its like this i have no idea i cant see how anyone enjoy being interupted every few min to watch something that is most of the time pointless.
#-30 Posted by Pedro (20994 posts) -

Its kinda sad on how many games follow the "cinematic button awesome" experience now days. Start game with cutscene. Walk for a few min and throw in some trash creatures that you hit or shoot (and they explode ofc). Then you get a cutscene. Walk for a min or so... Cutscene. Kill a few more evil enemies. Cut scene... Yeah... Why its like this i have no idea i cant see how anyone enjoy being interupted every few min to watch something that is most of the time pointless.KalDurenik

I don't get it either. The reason I play games is because I can interact. The moment the a cutscene comes in it becomes passive and defeats the purpose of me playing the game. Now a few cutscenes are fine but, now it has become so cutscene heavy that interactivity is now severely hindered.

#-29 Posted by wiouds (5003 posts) -

If the games developer want to have a story than they will need remove control from the player. I want those momment to be the best they can be. I hate when they are done poorly like half-life 2.

#-28 Posted by bowserjr123 (1624 posts) -

When they play for 30+ minutes *cough Metal Gear Solid cough*

#-27 Posted by Archangel3371 (15184 posts) -

[QUOTE="Lulekani"]Square Enix is so good at cut scenes that they actualy took the time to make 2 animated Films. Infact the top Japanese Studios specialize in animation.Pedro

Square Enix is totally incapable of making good cutscenes and I am not refering to prettiness but the ability to create an engaging story with their cutscenes.

I find them very engaging myself and find them very compelling storywise.
#-26 Posted by Lulekani (2216 posts) -

[QUOTE="Lulekani"][QUOTE="wiouds"]

Yet, I would not call that as part of the story.

Half-life 2 show there are a number of things you can not do with interactive. It seem that many are overestimating what can be done with interactive elements.

I have not seen a game that tell the plot points through interactive element.

wiouds

Then Play More Games, but this time go for something without cutscenes.

I have and still have not found a decent story told through the game play.

Then Play Even More Games, but this time go out of your comfort zone (please note any games you did not complete dont count)
#-25 Posted by wiouds (5003 posts) -

[QUOTE="wiouds"]

[QUOTE="Lulekani"] Then Play More Games, but this time go for something without cutscenes.Lulekani

I have and still have not found a decent story told through the game play.

Then Play Even More Games, but this time go out of your comfort zone (please note any games you did not complete dont count)

I played JRPG, WRPG, Action RPG, Shooters, RTS, 4X, tatical, plateforming and more more. I have yet to see it.

#-24 Posted by jcopp72 (5332 posts) -
I dont mind the cutscenes.
#-23 Posted by Lulekani (2216 posts) -

[QUOTE="Lulekani"][QUOTE="wiouds"]

I have and still have not found a decent story told through the game play.

wiouds

Then Play Even More Games, but this time go out of your comfort zone (please note any games you did not complete dont count)

I played JRPG, WRPG, Action RPG, Shooters, RTS, 4X, tatical, plateforming and more more. I have yet to see it.

Great we're caught in a loop. Okay its like this - until you play everysingle game ever made then its cool. Until that day comes, keep looking. And on a side note: RPG's SUCK @SS !
#-22 Posted by zombehhhhh (452 posts) -

I don't know, I think cutscenes in games are alright. I think it adds to the experience but a lot of games have bad writing/story/voiceacting so the cutscenes are kinda terrible.

#-21 Posted by Lulekani (2216 posts) -

I don't know, I think cutscenes in games are alright. I think it adds to the experience but a lot of games have bad writing/story/voiceacting so the cutscenes are kinda terrible.

zombehhhhh
Okay. But lets put aside the quality of cutscenes and review the concept using one question: Would you rather sit back and be told the story or would you rather step up and unravel a story by playing ? (no pressure, theres no wrong answer).
#-20 Posted by wiouds (5003 posts) -

[QUOTE="zombehhhhh"]

I don't know, I think cutscenes in games are alright. I think it adds to the experience but a lot of games have bad writing/story/voiceacting so the cutscenes are kinda terrible.

Lulekani

Okay. But lets put aside the quality of cutscenes and review the concept using one question: Would you rather sit back and be told the story or would you rather step up and unravel a story by playing ? (no pressure, theres no wrong answer).

Can you unravel a story by playing? I do not think you can. You can have events while playing games, but I do believe that events are apart of the overall story.

#-19 Posted by Pedro (20994 posts) -

I find them very engaging myself and find them very compelling storywise.Archangel3371

What is so compelling or engaging with their stories? The voice acting and dialogue is unatural. The animation is corny and over the top. And their ability to tell a clear concise story is totally removed. XIII had so much storytelling but nothing was actually being told. A bit odd and ironic at the same time.

#-18 Posted by wiouds (5003 posts) -

[QUOTE="Archangel3371"]I find them very engaging myself and find them very compelling storywise.Pedro

What is so compelling or engaging with their stories? The voice acting and dialogue is unatural. The animation is corny and over the top. And their ability to tell a clear concise story is totally removed. XIII had so much storytelling but nothing was actually being told. A bit odd and ironic at the same time.

I found FFXIII told a good story through the cutscene that they could not within the game.

#-17 Posted by Lulekani (2216 posts) -

[QUOTE="Lulekani"][QUOTE="zombehhhhh"]

I don't know, I think cutscenes in games are alright. I think it adds to the experience but a lot of games have bad writing/story/voiceacting so the cutscenes are kinda terrible.

wiouds

Okay. But lets put aside the quality of cutscenes and review the concept using one question: Would you rather sit back and be told the story or would you rather step up and unravel a story by playing ? (no pressure, theres no wrong answer).

Can you unravel a story by playing? I do not think you can. You can have events while playing games, but I do believe that events are apart of the overall story.

Given the state of video games today, you right. How about this - Storytelling(cut scenes) and Interaction (gameplay), both can be described as an "Experience", I gues the real question is which type of "experience" has more intrinsic value in a game's plot ?
#-16 Posted by Lulekani (2216 posts) -

[QUOTE="Pedro"]

[QUOTE="Archangel3371"]I find them very engaging myself and find them very compelling storywise.wiouds

What is so compelling or engaging with their stories? The voice acting and dialogue is unatural. The animation is corny and over the top. And their ability to tell a clear concise story is totally removed. XIII had so much storytelling but nothing was actually being told. A bit odd and ironic at the same time.

I found FFXIII told a good story through the cutscene that they could not within the game.

Did you watch the Final Fantasy Films ("Spirit Within" & "VII Advent Children") ?
#-15 Posted by wiouds (5003 posts) -

[QUOTE="wiouds"]

[QUOTE="Lulekani"] Okay. But lets put aside the quality of cutscenes and review the concept using one question: Would you rather sit back and be told the story or would you rather step up and unravel a story by playing ? (no pressure, theres no wrong answer).Lulekani

Can you unravel a story by playing? I do not think you can. You can have events while playing games, but I do believe that events are apart of the overall story.

Given the state of video games today, you right. How about this - Storytelling(cut scenes) and Interaction (gameplay), both can be described as an "Experience", I gues the real question is which type of "experience" has more intrinsic value in a game's plot ?

The story have more vlaue to the game's plot.

The gameplay has nothing to do with the game's plot. That is a reason a person can replay a game that he/she already now the game's plot. You can have game play without the game having a plot.

#-14 Posted by Archangel3371 (15184 posts) -

[QUOTE="Archangel3371"]I find them very engaging myself and find them very compelling storywise.Pedro

What is so compelling or engaging with their stories? The voice acting and dialogue is unatural. The animation is corny and over the top. And their ability to tell a clear concise story is totally removed. XIII had so much storytelling but nothing was actually being told. A bit odd and ironic at the same time.

I find the stories themselves to be compelling and engaging and many of the characters in their games as well. I think that the voice acting in their games is very well done and the dialog is pretty good as well. That's not to say that there aren't perhaps some moments of awkwardness in a character or bit of dialog here or there but for the vast majority of their work I find it to be quite good. Personally I found Final Fantasy XIII storytelling to be quite good and interesting along with a large portion of the cast to be interesting. I can't think of any particular cutscenes in their games where I felt the animation was corny and over the top or at least to the point where I would consider it as a negative.
#-13 Posted by wiouds (5003 posts) -

[QUOTE="wiouds"]

[QUOTE="Pedro"]

What is so compelling or engaging with their stories? The voice acting and dialogue is unatural. The animation is corny and over the top. And their ability to tell a clear concise story is totally removed. XIII had so much storytelling but nothing was actually being told. A bit odd and ironic at the same time.

Lulekani

I found FFXIII told a good story through the cutscene that they could not within the game.

Did you watch the Final Fantasy Films ("Spirit Within" & "VII Advent Children") ?

Seen them but I enjoy FFXIII's story much more.

#-12 Posted by Lulekani (2216 posts) -

[QUOTE="Lulekani"][QUOTE="wiouds"]

Can you unravel a story by playing? I do not think you can. You can have events while playing games, but I do believe that events are apart of the overall story.

wiouds

Given the state of video games today, you right. How about this - Storytelling(cut scenes) and Interaction (gameplay), both can be described as an "Experience", I gues the real question is which type of "experience" has more intrinsic value in a game's plot ?

The story have more vlaue to the game's plot.

The gameplay has nothing to do with the game's plot. That is a reason a person can replay a game that he/she already now the game's plot. You can have game play without the game having a plot.

Hmmm, I gues theres nothing else to say.
#-11 Posted by Lulekani (2216 posts) -

[QUOTE="Lulekani"][QUOTE="wiouds"]

I found FFXIII told a good story through the cutscene that they could not within the game.

wiouds

Did you watch the Final Fantasy Films ("Spirit Within" & "VII Advent Children") ?

Seen them but I enjoy FFXIII's story much more.

Lovely ! So would you rather play FFXIII or watch a movie version of it ?
#-10 Posted by JustPlainLucas (73564 posts) -
I can't imagine a game like Ni no Kuni without cutscenes. In fact, I wish there was more of them.
#-9 Posted by wiouds (5003 posts) -

[QUOTE="wiouds"]

[QUOTE="Lulekani"] Did you watch the Final Fantasy Films ("Spirit Within" & "VII Advent Children") ?Lulekani

Seen them but I enjoy FFXIII's story much more.

Lovely ! So would you rather play FFXIII or watch a movie version of it ?

I like the story since I watch a let's play of it and I enjoy the combat. Why does this matters?

#-8 Posted by Ballroompirate (21804 posts) -

Lol people actually complaining about cutscenes, sometimes it sickens me to be a gamer.

#-7 Posted by Krelian-co (10091 posts) -

i love them, i love the story part of games so i enjoy the cutscenes, games where you are mindlessly killing the whole game are boring

#-6 Posted by Venom_Raptor (6958 posts) -

Without cutscenes, pretty much every game would be poor. I want to have a story in a game, not skip through them for the gameplay. They're not out of hand.

#-5 Posted by Lulekani (2216 posts) -

[QUOTE="Lulekani"][QUOTE="wiouds"]

Seen them but I enjoy FFXIII's story much more.

wiouds

Lovely ! So would you rather play FFXIII or watch a movie version of it ?

I like the story since I watch a let's play of it and I enjoy the combat. Why does this matters?

It doesnt matter. I just like probing the issue. And from my gues, you didnt purchase Final Fantasy for the gameplay.
#-4 Posted by wiouds (5003 posts) -

[QUOTE="wiouds"]

[QUOTE="Lulekani"] Lovely ! So would you rather play FFXIII or watch a movie version of it ?Lulekani

I like the story since I watch a let's play of it and I enjoy the combat. Why does this matters?

It doesnt matter. I just like probing the issue. And from my gues, you didnt purchase Final Fantasy for the gameplay.

If it played like FFXII then I would not have bought it. I changed my mind after watching a clip of combat. I love JRPG combat and will replay them again. In fact FF9 is my most replayed game.

Ido not believe you can tell a story through game play. I think cutscene are the best way have the more complex moments of a game's story.

#-3 Posted by Lulekani (2216 posts) -

[QUOTE="Lulekani"][QUOTE="wiouds"]

I like the story since I watch a let's play of it and I enjoy the combat. Why does this matters?

wiouds

It doesnt matter. I just like probing the issue. And from my gues, you didnt purchase Final Fantasy for the gameplay.

If it played like FFXII then I would not have bought it. I changed my mind after watching a clip of combat. I love JRPG combat and will replay them again. In fact FF9 is my most replayed game.

Ido not believe you can tell a story through game play. I think cutscene are the best way have the more complex moments of a game's story.

So FF IX is the only game you replayed for the sake of gameplay ? Need help deciding ?
#-2 Posted by unrealtron (3148 posts) -
If the cutscene is good, I'll watch it. Doesn't matter how long it is. But they can be really annoying if they can't be skipped.
#-1 Posted by Deadpool-n (467 posts) -

It all started with one of the Metal Gear games. I think there was more cut scene time than gameplay in MGS4 :P

#0 Posted by hippiesanta (9735 posts) -
final fantasy 8 .... cannot skip cutsscence