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Pretty sure it was. But lack of people thinking nothing was wrong such as YOURSELF would be one of the top reasons by default.It Wasn't.
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MonkeySpot
The Gamecube wasn't really a disaster for Nintendo. It actually did well.
The only Nintendo console that was a disaster was the Virtual Boy.
The only reason why it did well for Nintendo was because they had other money coming from somewhere else (some of it was from the GBA.) to hold up the lack of money and sales they were getting, especuially in software, having the same result with a high power console the next gen would have stabbed them which is why they went Wii. Also notice I said "Disater" not "Failure" and by that I meant in the market with the competition.The Gamecube wasn't really a disaster for Nintendo. It actually did well.
The only Nintendo console that was a disaster was the Virtual Boy.
TyberZannxxxx
[QUOTE="TyberZannxxxx"]The only reason why it did well for Nintendo was because they had other money coming from somewhere else (some of it was from the GBA.) to hold up the lack of money and sales they were getting, especuially in software, having the same result with a high power console the next gen would have stabbed them which is why they went Wii. Also notice I said "Disater" not "Failure" and by that I meant in the market with the competition.The Gamecube wasn't really a disaster for Nintendo. It actually did well.
The only Nintendo console that was a disaster was the Virtual Boy.
KillerCannonade
But still, the Gamecube sold decently and got better third-party support than the N64.
The only reason why it did well for Nintendo was because they had other money coming from somewhere else (some of it was from the GBA.) to hold up the lack of money and sales they were getting, especuially in software, having the same result with a high power console the next gen would have stabbed them which is why they went Wii. Also notice I said "Disater" not "Failure" and by that I meant in the market with the competition.[QUOTE="KillerCannonade"][QUOTE="TyberZannxxxx"]
The Gamecube wasn't really a disaster for Nintendo. It actually did well.
The only Nintendo console that was a disaster was the Virtual Boy.
TyberZannxxxx
But still, the Gamecube sold decently and got better third-party support than the N64.
Which all suffered from software sales. Also the GC did poorly in NA and Japan (odd) and had decent software sales in PAL (odd) The N64 sold more, they were way to overconfident with brand name, that hurt them with the GC and thus is why they suddenly started being nice to developers. The GC by itself with none of Nintendos arcades, GBA sales, and other products would have had them start loosing money into the red around the late 2002 early 2003 period. The GC never actually met any set expectations (or well at least ones publicly announced.) The question is thugh, what where the leading causes to this? or that' what I am asking you, the consumers. or, well eh, Gamespot gamers in legacy platforms.Why are so many people trying to turn Legacy forum into System Wars 2:roll:
It wasn't a successful as some of their other consoles, but it was far from being a "disaster."
What is "Close" to a disater for you? When they are already bankrupt? They had like 4 things that held the Gamecube up, by itself would have stabbed Nintendo HARD. THere's a reason there was a Wii - Notice, GC, overreliance on FP which almost killed them, bad acts toward 3rd party started hitting them N64 gen but they didn't improve, and they changed the GC era but it was pretty much too late, restricted space CD which added to the already high Dev cost for games and how to make them on a console more powerful then the PS2, wasted support on online without actually using it, the GBplayer bombed (you really needed another CD to use it? Really?) etc. etc. They were no where close to being far from Disater.Why are so many people trying to turn Legacy forum into System Wars 2:roll:
It wasn't a successful as some of their other consoles, but it was far from being a "disaster."
Shenmue_Jehuty
[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]What is "Close" to a disater for you? When they are already bankrupt? They had like 4 things that held the Gamecube up, by itself would have stabbed Nintendo HARD. THere's a reason there was a Wii - Notice, GC, overreliance on FP which almost killed them, bad acts toward 3rd party started hitting them N64 gen but they didn't improve, and they changed the GC era but it was pretty much too late, restricted space CD which added to the already high Dev cost for games and how to make them on a console more powerful then the PS2, wasted support on online without actually using it, the GBplayer bombed (you really needed another CD to use it? Really?) etc. etc. They were no where close to being far from Disater.Why are so many people trying to turn Legacy forum into System Wars 2:roll:
It wasn't a successful as some of their other consoles, but it was far from being a "disaster."
KillerCannonade
I don't consider 21 million units sold a disaster, not even close.
I agree, the Gamecube was not a disaster...but the reason many of my friends and myself didn't use it as our main console, more or less a secondary. No online when online started getting bigger. No DVD player, and there in the begining of its life the games weren't all that impressive. NOt as many hardcore games like GTA, Halo, and no solid racing games to suck me in.
I did buy one though for the Nintendo exclusives (mario, zelda, etc) and the main main main reason to own one. Resident Evil (all of them!)
I agree, the Gamecube was not a disaster...but the reason many of my friends and myself didn't use it as our main console, more or less a secondary. No online when online started getting bigger. No DVD player, and there in the begining of its life the games weren't all that impressive. NOt as many hardcore games like GTA, Halo, and no solid racing games to suck me in.
I did buy one though for the Nintendo exclusives (mario, zelda, etc) and the main main main reason to own one. Resident Evil (all of them!)
Sportyfamilycar
YES! RE for the win! I actually bought a Gamecube just to play RE:Remake; still one of my all time favorite games :)
It wasn't a disaster. Best console last gen IMO.YoshiYogurtDisater and Failur are 2 different things. Also Shenue and Warrior Emeraldy seriously? It was clealry a disater for Nintendo, people like you guys thinking everything was fine is why the GC just sunk so low. Most likely, most people here didn't buy a GC during its time. Also Shenmue 21 selling is good? If you are on some drugs that make you ignore things like profits, investing software sales, making up for hardware and other thing which they all failed at and would have been in the red if not for like 4 other Nintendo objects that held the Gamecube up. Selling doesn't mean crap, look at current gen with the PS3 and Sony.
[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"]It wasn't a disaster. Best console last gen IMO.KillerCannonadeDisater and Failur are 2 different things. Also Shenue and Warrior Emeraldy seriously? It was clealry a disater for Nintendo, people like you guys thinking everything was fine is why the GC just sunk so low. Most likely, most people here didn't buy a GC during its time. Also Shenmue 21 selling is good? If you are on some drugs that make you ignore things like profits, investing software sales, making up for hardware and other thing which they all failed at and would have been in the red if not for like 4 other Nintendo objects that held the Gamecube up. Selling doesn't mean crap, look at current gen with the PS3 and Sony.
This was last generation's disaster:
As to the Gamcube: Some of the best games of the last generation and sales of 21 million I'd hardly call "a disaster". 3rd place, sure, but they were far from bankrupt or anything. Metroid Prime 1 & 2, Super Mario Sunshine, Zeldas, Eternal Darkness, Star Wars: Rouge Squadron 2 & 3, StarFox games, Super Smash Bros. Melee, and especially the Resident Evil remake. Definetly some great exclusives.
Disater and Failur are 2 different things. Also Shenue and Warrior Emeraldy seriously? It was clealry a disater for Nintendo, people like you guys thinking everything was fine is why the GC just sunk so low. Most likely, most people here didn't buy a GC during its time. Also Shenmue 21 selling is good? If you are on some drugs that make you ignore things like profits, investing software sales, making up for hardware and other thing which they all failed at and would have been in the red if not for like 4 other Nintendo objects that held the Gamecube up. Selling doesn't mean crap, look at current gen with the PS3 and Sony.[QUOTE="KillerCannonade"][QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"]It wasn't a disaster. Best console last gen IMO.Emerald_Warrior
This was last generation's disaster:
As to the Gamcube: Some of the best games of the last generation and sales of 21 million I'd hardly call "a disaster". 3rd place, sure, but they were far from bankrupt or anything. Metroid Prime 1 & 2, Super Mario Sunshine, Zeldas, Eternal Darkness, Star Wars: Rouge Squadron 2 & 3, StarFox games, Super Smash Bros. Melee, and especially the Resident Evil remake. Definetly some great exclusives.
Stop it just stop it. Please just stop it. Oh holy lordy what you said makes no sense. Does breath of they faith sir croc neck? Your opinion is not based on reality, reality is based on reality, numbers don't equal anything, for the cost of the GC, for a company that only had like 3 things holding up the GC, by itself, would have hurt Nin terribly. They would have been in deep red. 21 million in sales is pretty bad for what the GC was, it could have been an Xbox disater orworse if the GC was by itself and nintendo is not Ms and would not have been able to take those losses without cutting a few thing immensly. It was a disater. how can liking game on it prevent reality. It's all right there.It wasn't. My collection of over 60 GC games is a testament to that, there are some amazing games on that system.
Yes. if you think otherwise you need help. They have build from it though but the damage was already done.so is the ps3 a disaster for sony?
KBFloYd
Reality is it was a disater. It can't not be a disater to you because it was. It could have caused Nintendo some much more serious problems then it already did. Thy reality is the key, your liking does not change reality Crocneck.It wasn't. My collection of over 60 GC games is a testament to that, there are some amazing games on that system.
turtlethetaffer
[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]Reality is it was a disater. It can't not be a disater to you because it was. It could have caused Nintendo some much more serious problems then it already did. Thy reality is the key, your liking does not change reality Crocneck.It wasn't. My collection of over 60 GC games is a testament to that, there are some amazing games on that system.
KillerCannonade
How can a system with so many good games be a disaster?
And why the hell do you keep calling me Crocneck?
Reality is it was a disater. It can't not be a disater to you because it was. It could have caused Nintendo some much more serious problems then it already did. Thy reality is the key, your liking does not change reality Crocneck.[QUOTE="KillerCannonade"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]
It wasn't. My collection of over 60 GC games is a testament to that, there are some amazing games on that system.
turtlethetaffer
How can a system with so many good games be a disaster?
And why the hell do you keep calling me Crocneck?
Failure and Disater or two different words. For Nintendo the system was a disater, in the market it was a disater, compared to the competition it was a disater, it;s support was a disater, profit? Was a disater. Failure would be the word you are looking for. This is "Disater" Spell it with me now D.I>>>S.???A:::S////T----E+++R=Disater.[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"][QUOTE="KillerCannonade"] Reality is it was a disater. It can't not be a disater to you because it was. It could have caused Nintendo some much more serious problems then it already did. Thy reality is the key, your liking does not change reality Crocneck.KillerCannonade
How can a system with so many good games be a disaster?
And why the hell do you keep calling me Crocneck?
Failure and Disater or two different words. For Nintendo the system was a disater, in the market it was a disater, compared to the competition it was a disater, it;s support was a disater, profit? Was a disater. Failure would be the word you are looking for. This is "Disater" Spell it with me now D.I>>>S.???A:::S////T----E+++R=Disater.Crocneck?
I find it ironic you're telling me to spell disaster when you said "disater."
Failure and Disater or two different words. For Nintendo the system was a disater, in the market it was a disater, compared to the competition it was a disater, it;s support was a disater, profit? Was a disater. Failure would be the word you are looking for. This is "Disater" Spell it with me now D.I>>>S.???A:::S////T----E+++R=Disater.[QUOTE="KillerCannonade"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]
How can a system with so many good games be a disaster?
And why the hell do you keep calling me Crocneck?
turtlethetaffer
Crocneck?
I find it ironic you're telling me to spell disaster when you said "disater."
That's how they spell it in EU/PAl. Just ask any PAl type person. Like here it's COLOR, there it's COLOUR Here it's Disaster, there it's Disater. Pal people until 2008 were also mentally unable to see past 50 FPS for a long time. The more you know.[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"][QUOTE="KillerCannonade"] Failure and Disater or two different words. For Nintendo the system was a disater, in the market it was a disater, compared to the competition it was a disater, it;s support was a disater, profit? Was a disater. Failure would be the word you are looking for. This is "Disater" Spell it with me now D.I>>>S.???A:::S////T----E+++R=Disater.KillerCannonade
Crocneck?
I find it ironic you're telling me to spell disaster when you said "disater."
That's how they spell it in EU/PAl. Just ask any PAl type person. Like here it's COLOR, there it's COLOUR Here it's Disaster, there it's Disater. Pal people until 2008 were also mentally unable to see past 50 FPS for a long time. The more you know.But... if you live in America, which I'm assuming you do since you said "HERE it's disaster" why would you use the EU spelling, if that's really how it is?
Also... Crocneck?
[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"][QUOTE="KillerCannonade"] Reality is it was a disater. It can't not be a disater to you because it was. It could have caused Nintendo some much more serious problems then it already did. Thy reality is the key, your liking does not change reality Crocneck.KillerCannonade
How can a system with so many good games be a disaster?
And why the hell do you keep calling me Crocneck?
Failure and Disater or two different words. For Nintendo the system was a disater, in the market it was a disater, compared to the competition it was a disater, it;s support was a disater, profit? Was a disater. Failure would be the word you are looking for. This is "Disater" Spell it with me now D.I>>>S.???A:::S////T----E+++R=Disater.Right, everyone else is blind to reality and you're the only one that sees it the right way.
...you realize that every single person in this thread except for you is in agreement that Gamecube wasn't a disaster, don't you?
Failure and Disater or two different words. For Nintendo the system was a disater, in the market it was a disater, compared to the competition it was a disater, it;s support was a disater, profit? Was a disater. Failure would be the word you are looking for. This is "Disater" Spell it with me now D.I>>>S.???A:::S////T----E+++R=Disater.[QUOTE="KillerCannonade"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]
How can a system with so many good games be a disaster?
And why the hell do you keep calling me Crocneck?
Emerald_Warrior
Right, everyone else is blind to reality and you're the only one that sees it the right way.
...you realize that every single person in this thread except for you is in agreement that Gamecube wasn't a disaster, don't you?
I tihnk we should let the troll have his fun for now and play along.
[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"][QUOTE="KillerCannonade"] Failure and Disater or two different words. For Nintendo the system was a disater, in the market it was a disater, compared to the competition it was a disater, it;s support was a disater, profit? Was a disater. Failure would be the word you are looking for. This is "Disater" Spell it with me now D.I>>>S.???A:::S////T----E+++R=Disater.KillerCannonade
Crocneck?
I find it ironic you're telling me to spell disaster when you said "disater."
That's how they spell it in EU/PAl. Just ask any PAl type person. Like here it's COLOR, there it's COLOUR Here it's Disaster, there it's Disater. Pal people until 2008 were also mentally unable to see past 50 FPS for a long time. The more you know.HA HA HA HA!!!! You continue to amaze me. That is in absolutely no way shape or form correct.
That's how they spell it in EU/PAl. Just ask any PAl type person. Like here it's COLOR, there it's COLOUR Here it's Disaster, there it's Disater. Pal people until 2008 were also mentally unable to see past 50 FPS for a long time. The more you know.[QUOTE="KillerCannonade"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]
Crocneck?
I find it ironic you're telling me to spell disaster when you said "disater."
Emerald_Warrior
HA HA HA HA!!!! You continue to amaze me. That is in absolutely no way shape or form correct.
First of all a guy on the first page mentioned it was a disater to. Also it was a disater for Nintedo. You are not Nintedo, your opinion DOES NOT MATTER. Thy Reality is flawed deemd thy rotate Crocneck. Also how is this quoted post wrong? THere's a reson PAL TVS could not see past 50FPS at the time. Ask any Pal guy, they were unable to until recently with higher quality TVs and they evolved. Also Disaster here, Disater over there. I also makes a perfect shape and form.[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]
[QUOTE="KillerCannonade"] Failure and Disater or two different words. For Nintendo the system was a disater, in the market it was a disater, compared to the competition it was a disater, it;s support was a disater, profit? Was a disater. Failure would be the word you are looking for. This is "Disater" Spell it with me now D.I>>>S.???A:::S////T----E+++R=Disater.turtlethetaffer
Right, everyone else is blind to reality and you're the only one that sees it the right way.
...you realize that every single person in this thread except for you is in agreement that Gamecube wasn't a disaster, don't you?
I tihnk we should let the troll have his fun for now and play along.
So you're Nintedo and that guy on the first page doesn;t exit? Pretending people don;t exist is trolling, what I say is the Truth. Guess Xbox was a disaster for MS either than huh? Gosh you Crocnecks.Also how is this quoted post wrong?.KillerCannonade
This part is wrong:
Also Disaster here, Disater over there.KillerCannonade
[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"][QUOTE="KillerCannonade"] That's how they spell it in EU/PAl. Just ask any PAl type person. Like here it's COLOR, there it's COLOUR Here it's Disaster, there it's Disater. Pal people until 2008 were also mentally unable to see past 50 FPS for a long time. The more you know.KillerCannonade
HA HA HA HA!!!! You continue to amaze me. That is in absolutely no way shape or form correct.
First of all a guy on the first page mentioned it was a disater to. Also it was a disater for Nintedo. You are not Nintedo, your opinion DOES NOT MATTER. Thy Reality is flawed deemd thy rotate Crocneck. Also how is this quoted post wrong? THere's a reson PAL TVS could not see past 50FPS at the time. Ask any Pal guy, they were unable to until recently with higher quality TVs and they evolved. Also Disaster here, Disater over there. I also makes a perfect shape and form.You are a master troll. Here, something for you.
And something else for your trouble.
[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"][QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]
Right, everyone else is blind to reality and you're the only one that sees it the right way.
...you realize that every single person in this thread except for you is in agreement that Gamecube wasn't a disaster, don't you?
KillerCannonade
I tihnk we should let the troll have his fun for now and play along.
So you're Nintedo and that guy on the first page doesn;t exit? Pretending people don;t exist is trolling, what I say is the Truth. Guess Xbox was a disaster for MS either than huh? Gosh you Crocnecks.The hell is a crocneck? I searched for it online, got nothin.
First of all a guy on the first page mentioned it was a disater to. Also it was a disater for Nintedo. You are not Nintedo, your opinion DOES NOT MATTER. Thy Reality is flawed deemd thy rotate Crocneck. Also how is this quoted post wrong? THere's a reson PAL TVS could not see past 50FPS at the time. Ask any Pal guy, they were unable to until recently with higher quality TVs and they evolved. Also Disaster here, Disater over there. I also makes a perfect shape and form.[QUOTE="KillerCannonade"][QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]
HA HA HA HA!!!! You continue to amaze me. That is in absolutely no way shape or form correct.
turtlethetaffer
You are a master troll. Here, something for you.
And something else for your trouble.
Can't see the first pic.
[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]
[QUOTE="KillerCannonade"] First of all a guy on the first page mentioned it was a disater to. Also it was a disater for Nintedo. You are not Nintedo, your opinion DOES NOT MATTER. Thy Reality is flawed deemd thy rotate Crocneck. Also how is this quoted post wrong? THere's a reson PAL TVS could not see past 50FPS at the time. Ask any Pal guy, they were unable to until recently with higher quality TVs and they evolved. Also Disaster here, Disater over there. I also makes a perfect shape and form.Emerald_Warrior
You are a master troll. Here, something for you.
And something else for your trouble.
Can't see the first pic.
Picture must be 50fps too fast for you to see. Subtract 10 from the framerate Turtle.So you're Nintedo and that guy on the first page doesn;t exit? Pretending people don;t exist is trolling, what I say is the Truth. Guess Xbox was a disaster for MS either than huh? Gosh you Crocnecks.[QUOTE="KillerCannonade"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]
I tihnk we should let the troll have his fun for now and play along.
turtlethetaffer
The hell is a crocneck? I searched for it online, got nothin.
Asl yourself. What is a Crocodile? What does it Neck look like? The Texture? Then you have your answer./[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]
[QUOTE="KillerCannonade"] First of all a guy on the first page mentioned it was a disater to. Also it was a disater for Nintedo. You are not Nintedo, your opinion DOES NOT MATTER. Thy Reality is flawed deemd thy rotate Crocneck. Also how is this quoted post wrong? THere's a reson PAL TVS could not see past 50FPS at the time. Ask any Pal guy, they were unable to until recently with higher quality TVs and they evolved. Also Disaster here, Disater over there. I also makes a perfect shape and form.Emerald_Warrior
You are a master troll. Here, something for you.
And something else for your trouble.
Can't see the first pic.
Think I fixed it. If not, it's a gif of Citizen Kane clapping.
[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"][QUOTE="KillerCannonade"] So you're Nintedo and that guy on the first page doesn;t exit? Pretending people don;t exist is trolling, what I say is the Truth. Guess Xbox was a disaster for MS either than huh? Gosh you Crocnecks.KillerCannonade
The hell is a crocneck? I searched for it online, got nothin.
Asl yourself. What is a Crocodile? What does it Neck look like? The Texture? Then you have your answer./So you are literally calling me the neck of a crocodile. This calls for one thing and one thing only.
Asl yourself. What is a Crocodile? What does it Neck look like? The Texture? Then you have your answer./[QUOTE="KillerCannonade"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]
The hell is a crocneck? I searched for it online, got nothin.
turtlethetaffer
So you are literally calling me the neck of a crocodile. This calls for one thing and one thing only.
No, I am calling you a stubborn person who has some rought edges on his brain. Some crocnecks also in many cases can't see past 50frames per second (Emeral Warrior) Emerald is also the first non-pal to not be able to see past 50fps without actually being from Europe.[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"][QUOTE="KillerCannonade"] Asl yourself. What is a Crocodile? What does it Neck look like? The Texture? Then you have your answer./KillerCannonade
So you are literally calling me the neck of a crocodile. This calls for one thing and one thing only.
No, I am calling you a stubborn person who has some rought edges on his brain. Some crocnecks also in many cases can't see past 50frames per second (Emeral Warrior) Emerald is also the first non-pal to not be able to see past 50fps without actually being from Europe.I can't hear you over the sound of spiderman.
No, I am calling you a stubborn person who has some rought edges on his brain. Some crocnecks also in many cases can't see past 50frames per second (Emeral Warrior) Emerald is also the first non-pal to not be able to see past 50fps without actually being from Europe.[QUOTE="KillerCannonade"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]
So you are literally calling me the neck of a crocodile. This calls for one thing and one thing only.
turtlethetaffer
I can't hear you over the sound of spiderman.
LMAO! That pic always makes me laugh!
Since we're talking about Nintendo and all
*sigh* I know. :( This place used to be SO much more respected.Why are so many people trying to turn Legacy forum into System Wars 2:roll:
Shenmue_Jehuty
I'm surprised people are saying the GC did well in this thread. The console not only finished in last place in terms of sales last gen by a very large margin (ignoring the DC obviously), but it did so poorly that it nearly killed Nintendo (or at least nearly pushed them out of the console market and into handhelds exclusively). The GBA and DS were what kept Nintendo above water last gen, and the Wii was what gave the company a second revival.gameguy6700WHAT? :? Sorry, but no. GameCube didn't nearly kill them and GBA/DS weren't the only things that kept them afloat, as Nintendo still made a profit out of that cube.
I dunno, the PS2 and Xbox were easy to pirate while GC wasn't?
I'd say people went with the system that had the best support, DVD playback "out-of-the-box" and was the most advertised/hyped. And that happened to be the PS2 (Xbox wasn't exactly a success either, despite better graphics and some worthwhile exclusives).
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