@zijuun said:
@iHarlequin said:
@zijuun said:
@iHarlequin said:
There's literally no reason to buy the PS4 at the moment. It has no games and odds have it you might get one of the problematic consoles - you're better off waiting a year or two and getting it at a lower price and most likely improved over its initial release version.
That, and PC gaming is just better. @zijuun you're kidding, right? What's the 'diverse' library the PS4 has? At best, it has an impressive 'potential' library - which we won't see come to fruition for another two or three years. TC, trust me: without backwards compatibility, you're going to be stuck with launch shovelware and the one or two quality exclusives they drop on a yearly basis. Absolutely no reason to get a PS4 at the moment, -if- you're between choosing that and a PC.
There "literally no reason"? Tell me why with it's huge launch line-up you can choose lots of different games including AC, COD, BF, Infamous and etc. I won't deny the awesomeness of PC gaming and the convenience of comfortable controls, beautiful graphics and a good library. But to say that there's literally no reason to get a PS4? Dafuq? Ignorance is bliss.
And if a console does have problems, you don't have to wait years. You can wait some good months and then get it. And the probability you'll get a ****ty PS4 is quite low, and if you do get one, Sony is very flexible.
It's completely subjective of which is better, but if you like PC gaming more, I won't hold that against you. Everyone human is entitled to his or her opinion. But to say that it's pointless to get a PS4 is retarded fanboy logic considering millions of people get it and millions prefer a PS4 over a PC for gaming.
Sony has also promised us Gaikai streaming. It'll take a good year or two to get it up and running perfectly which is fine. We'll have plenty of awesome games to keep us busy by then.
Sorry, you're the one being a fanboy. TC asked whether it was, at this point, better to upgrade to the PC he listed or to get a PS4 - you'd have to be blind to think it's better to get a PS4 than that computer. All the titles you said, bar Infamous, are multi-platform games and will look and play better on the PC. Like I said, PS4 is still in the realm of potentiality - a few years from now it may make sense, with multiple exclusives and whatnot. If you're having to weigh your purchase of a PS4 against the purchase of a PC, I will always say that, from an objective standpoint, the PC is better. There's no argument there: if you have to choose one, the PC has more games and plays those that it shares with the consoles better.
At the moment, the PS4 has a game library that consists of a few dozen titles, of which only half a dozen or so are actually exclusive (and none of these exclusives are hardware-sellers like Uncharted or Gears of War, in the sense that no one would buy a console -just- to play Knack). The PC has, literally, several thousand games to play through - and even if you're not into alternative gaming (independent and PC-only, for instance), it still has hundreds of games released in the two past years.
Alright, whatever floats your boat.
I find it much more convenient playing games on a PS4 especially when having access to online where you'll have more friends on rather than on a PC. Besides it will almost always run better with it's exclusives. And I don't find it very comfortable to dump money into a PC while on a PS4, once you get it, you're literally set.
I'm not in the mood to argue right now and where our conversation is leading, it's not going to go any where. Agree to disagree we shall, to argue more we shall not.
1) Why will you have more friends? That depends entirely on the person and what -his- friends use. I have nearly no friends on either the XOne or PS4, but plenty who play LoL, DotA 2 or PC games in general. Is that going to be the case for everyone? No - and because it isn't, you can't use it as a point when you're trying to convince someone to buy this or that.
2) I still say that between consoles, what defines which one to pick are the exclusives, not the hardware. I agree with you (although your 'it will almost always run better with it's exclusives' statement makes no sense), and I reiterate: at this point, for fans of -any- genre, the PC still has many more games than the PS4. The console just launched, and I personally think that, unless you have money to spend (as in, you're not having to choose between the launch console and a PC, as is TC's case), getting a console at launch is fairly pointless. As I said, if you're already saturated with hardware (you have a PC, last-gen consoles, etc.) and have the money, go for the PS4 - otherwise, it offers little for its price tag (at the moment).
3) Standardized hardware is a good and a bad thing. It's good because, as you said, you'll buy the console and won't have to spend any more to upgrade it. It's bad because you'll buy the console and you won't be able to spend any more to upgrade it. Early on this won't show much, but I guarantee you that two to three years into the generation the settings presets for modern games on the PS4/Xbox One will be the equivalent of the 'low' setting on the PC (same thing that happened to the PS3/Xbox 360 after 2008 - 2009).
TL;DR - the PC has better hardware and a wider array of options, but which is better will boil down to personal software preference. The Wii U is weak, hardware-wise, but has fantastic games that many fans would rather play than any PC game. As such, the PS4 might become an interesting option down the road, when the exclusives actually come out for it. At the moment, however, it simply doesn't have enough software to justify buying it over a PC.
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